>otherwise passing tranny with a fagcent>go to small festival with coworkers>see two trannies>frizzy agp curl puppy girls glad in collars, dog ears and all black alternative outfits >smiling ear to ear and gushing to eachother>eventually another pulls up in a wheelchair >all 3 basically look like identical clones>hurriedly try to usher my coworkers away so they don't see them and think any less of me>look over at the puppy girls, who are now visibly beaming with autistic joy >realise that they don't even pass that badly, they'd be fine if only they tried to assimilate >kind of wonder if I would be happier joining them instead of larping as a real woman >...>get drunk and end up loudly mocking "the ugly pet play BDSM weirdos I saw earlier"
passing is a mythno tranny here has a fagcent cuz all of you are AGPs
>>43674274Youre obsessssssed lolll
>>43674289you are a gynephileyour claims of fagcenture are stolen valoryour femininity is forced and everyone can tell it is not natural to your demeanor
>>43674310Just not the case, sorry (:
>>43674414liarLIARpants on fireif we could hear your voice it would be clear you are just a nerdy autistic man with nothing to do with gays or flamers
Transbians are really just an evolution of old fem4fem gays that didn't give one damn
>>43674251>People being happy>Why don't you assimilate??? You're not allowed to be yourself and do what you want as a trans woman.You're so gross
>>43674487>literal cisf chaser fetishist calls me gross for not acting like a woman and not her idealised autistic "safe male" lol
transbians should be banished to some dungeon next to the earths MAGMA
>>43674566for acting like a woman* FUCK give me a break I'm still very hungover :(
>>43674566Women dont just act 1 way. Youre obsession is propriety, not femininity, and that is the gross part because it leads you to look down on your sisters for not being bound by the arbitrary and pointless rules of propriety
>>43674601>Women dont just act 1 waynobody acts like those "puppy" "girls" except autistic trannies>Youre obsession is propriety, not femininityYou say this as if it's evil and thoughtless behaviour, it's actually the opposite. Those trannies are walking opticsnvkes who are at a real risk of turning an ally into a sceptic and a sceptic into a wanton transphobe with every social interaction. That's why I look down on them, because ultimately I care about the future of trans rights way more than them, and I have the self control to focus on the big picture instead of getting to shamelessly broadcast my fetishises and my transness at a non-transgender related festival. Would the world ultimately be a better place if humans could just tolerate each other’s idiosyncrasies without having a fit over violated shared social etiquette? Certainly. Do we live in that world? Absolutely not. Are these "puppy" "girls" trialblazers? No, they're not admirable, cool or anything other than outright disgusting to 99.99% of the people at that event, even ignoring the dog collars and trans flags.
>>43674716Lol actual "one of the good ones" thinking. You are dumb if you think this way, enjoy trying to conform loser
>>43674747arrf arrf piss puppy, enjoy your kennel
>>43674716>nobody acts like those "puppy" "girls" except autistic tranniesMe when I lie, again this is solely prejudice, *I* used to act like that a couple years ago with my girlfriend. And I've known cis women who did too.>You say this as if it's evil and thoughtless behaviour, it's actually the opposite. Those trannies are walking opticsnvkes who are at a real risk of turning an ally into a sceptic and a sceptic into a wanton transphobe with every social interaction.You are actively doing that though. You are reinforcing the idea that being like those people is bad to cis people. This is solely a thoughtless and evil behavior no matter how much you try to convince yourself that it isn't, people are living their lives being themselves and YOU come in telling them that they are ruining everything because they are not like you, you're no different from a transphobe. Assimilation and respectability has literally never been the way to go for social movements and you coping so hard about being "one of the good ones" only does harm to trans people as a whole. If you can't change your ways about this (which you can't you'll just double down and do mental gymnastics to justify your position) at least shut up about it and keep it to yourself, don't spread this shit to other people.
>>43674901Another based post from theyfabanon
>>43674901>Me when I lie, again this is solely prejudice, *I* used to act like that a couple years ago with my girlfriend. And I've known cis women who did too.I take it your girlfriend was a hon?>You're just making things worse! There's no reason to be meanTo tell the truth, I actually broadly agree with you, and had I not been in this dastardly state where my mind feels dull and my eyes are sensitive, I would've resisted the temptation to insult you and admitted this in a previous post. >Assimilation and respectability has literally never been the way to go- yeah okay now you can shut the fuck up theyfab, the moment the concentration camps start accepting their first inmates you'll just detrans (i.e taking the pronouns out of your bio) and be perfectly fine, meanwhile the I, in addition to the piss pups you're so eager to "defend", will have our heads shaved, fed rotting slop and forced to endure brutal labour until our skeletal bodies collapse from exhaustion cope all you like, you'd have to be fucking insane to think that gigahons don't negatively effect trans rights more than passoids, which is exactly what you're arguing. Same goes for any civil rights moment, just look at how many (admittedly contemptible) racists will say stuff like "I don't hate black people, I hate niggers" go fuck yourself.
>>43674992Cant reapond to the actual point so you just rave about imagined ractionary violence that assimilation will do nothing to stop. Your point about civil rights explains things for you. The people who say "I don't hate black people, I hate niggers" actually HATE BLACK PEOPLE. THEY WERE ALLWAYS GOING TO! ASSIMILATION DOES NOTHING!
>>43674992People arent transphobic because of gigahons theyre transphobic for the same reasons they are racist or homophobic: hate is politically and economically useful to the ruling class, so they propogate it in society
>>43675080>Cant reapond to the actual pointagain, my bad, but still, I'm struggling to see what the actual point is, care to elaborate? \>so you just rave about imagined ractionary violence that assimilation will do nothing to stopwhat the fuck are you talking about shithead? "imagined reactionary violence"? what part of this is imagined? > The people who say "I don't hate black people, I hate niggers" actually HATE BLACK PEOPLE. THEY WERE ALLWAYS GOING TO! ASSIMILATION DOES NOTHING!I know literal /pol/browsing chuds irl, we still manage to get along decently well despite our political differences because I speak well, have a job, have a degree, have a boyfriend, behave reasonably feminine and don't walk around with a collared leash in public, maybe you should try it? >>43675098It's a gigantic fallacy to imagine the ruling classes as a round table of billionaires who have control the "narrative" like a marionetteYeah they certainly play into it sometimes, but it's not like one man, or even a group of people, can just fabricate a genocide out of nowhere with zero pre-existing antipathy.Said pre-existing antipathy exists because of literal public fetishists, i.e sissy gigahons and pet play puppy freaks.
>>43674251>sees lifestyle she secretly covets>insults it out of shame and dissonance at seeing their ego dystonic desires on full displayMany such cases!Pic isn't the exact same thing but similar
>>43674251Me when I went to the amusement park with my bf and the only other trannies I saw where two 6'+ gigahons in sissy-adjacent clothes and then one person I couldn't be sure was an early/pre-HRT tranny or a very cringe femboy who desperately needed laser
>>43674251holy fucking based OP, if only everyone was like you>>43675098>>43675080>>43674928>>43674901jfc what's happened to this board? we have rMtF if you want to be an unabashed sissy and r4tr*n if you want to be an self-conscious edgy sissy instead, why don't you post there? There's literally nowhere for trannies who want to be actual women to go anymore
>>43675242Truthfully, I find it quite exhausting to be around cissoids all day, and I do get on with other trannies easier. So yeah, I could see myself having a wonderful time with those girls if I got to know them, and there was a time where I found light fetish play to be affirming. When the /hdg/ general appeared on this board, I initially found it delightful, but after realising that it was a slippery slope to abdl/age regression fetishism, I decided I'd rather keep my pride and self respect, and fight to maintain my mediocre position on the social hierarchy than abandon the effort altogether like those ghastly pale, amazon skirt wearing, gawky-looking clowns have. My reward is that I get to live a relatively normal life despite being trans. Nobody has ever misgendered me despite having a fag voice and nobody ever brings the topic up except my trans friends, most of whom have mentioned that they can hardly believe I am one of them.
>>43674251>kind of wonder if I would be happier joining them instead of larping as a real womanyou would nona. take the puppypill and be happy
>>43675378this board is so hateful whenever it comes to traditional male brained things like running linux or liking guns EXCEPT for being a puppy girl and living in transbian polycules, so weird
>>43674429>nerdy autistic manDefinitely you.
>>43675535Beliving in "male brained"= you are retarded.
>>43675559is it so wrong to be dysphoric over not fitting in with other girls?
>>43675558I'm not autistic or nerdy. I'm quite social in fact.
>>43675581Now you're contradicting yourself. Earlier you admitted to being an autistic nerd
>>43675535Polyamory is definitely fembrained. I don't think I've ever met a straight polyamorous pairing that wasn't initiated by the woman to a reluctantly acquiescing man.Picrel is from this article: https://web.archive.org/web/20240711164803/https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/04/15/magazine/polycule-polyamory-boston.html . They talk about how the polycule is "female-run" and consists of a "bunch of queer women who say we’re not going to follow the rules."
>>43675733out of all of the trans women I know, the effeminate ones are strictly against polyamory and the ones with frizzy hair, chipped nails and and autistic special interests are the most partial to polyamory (they are the only western non-mormon people I know into polyamory infact) I think it's more fair to say that polyamory in progressive circles is autismbrained or queerbrained.
>>43675733Tbf when it's the man doing it it's usually not called polyamory
>>43675733that guy is fucking pathetic lmfaoimagine taking SSRIs so you can cope with your wife blatantly cheating on you for a "hot stud", I actually feel bad for him.
>>43674251>>frizzy agp curl puppy girls glad in collars, dog ears and all black alternative outfitsBased + giwiwtAt least they are happy unlike you OPAssimilationism never helped anyone, you are basically one of the assimilationist patriotic jews from pre-wwii germany seething at a bunch of hasidim passing by. (they both ended up in the same camps)
>>43675535i am so jealous of them
>>43675570Thats fine but when most people use malebrained they use it as a pejorative to insult others
>>43674251i support u op>>43675276ya tttt is a sissy hypno fakegirl hugboxx now cus bitches can’t handle the slightest amount of hate anymore and got too carried away with vicarious agpposting>>43675733ssritard woketard obese ugly looser brained sorry
>>43674251wanting to belong was your first mistakegays always have it harder
>>43674901its a strange kind of hussy that sees other people having fun and chooses to be upset about it
actually insane how much seethe OP managed to invoke holy shit
>>43674251Least self hating troon
>>43675276>There's literally nowhere for trannies who want to be actual women to go anymoremam...
>>43679532what
>>43674487>>43674601>>43674928>>43675378>>43675559>>43675733>>43675905>>43676146>>43676102Be honest, if OP saw you in public, would she describe you as an ugly BDSM freak to her coworkers?
>>43675187said pre existing antipathy exists because of actual gender ideology (what chuds believe) and even if there wasnt a single tranny like that, they would find something else to justify it nobody holds anyone else to the standard of having no potentially unpalatable subsetthere is really gross and weird cis people but u will never hear that used to delegitimize cis people
>>43674251Cringing at people who refuse to conform is based
>>43674251Unless your coworkers believe you are cis they do not see that much difference between you and them.
>>43678638i'm less self hating than the puppy girls, I want to be treated with respect, my identity is not intertwined with being a public fetishist>>43681340>they would find something else to justify it And their case would be worse for it. They make fun out of us for being weird male brained fetishists because that's the most damning and visible sterotype they can pick from. you broadly are correct, but this is still black and white thinking. Just because we're held to an unfairly high standard, that doesn't mean that we can't fight back against these negative stereotypes by making ourselves presentable and articulate to cis people. I consider our actions today as having an individually minor but collectively massive ripple effect on the lives of each successive generation of tranners. >>43681476Yeah, hence why I was anxious to stop my coworkers form seeing, all my hard work to appear presentable, only to be squandered by those losers. I don't want to go stealth because it seems stressful having to keep up a full time lie, and I want to let cis people know that not all of us are weirdos, but at this point I think it's worth it.
>>43674251>get drunk and end up loudly mocking "the ugly pet play BDSM weirdos I saw earlier"pretty based ngl>normie troon
>>43681281no because i dress like a faggot and have a husband
>>43682170>I dress like a faggotnot>I dress like a woman*snap*
>>43682269woooow a meme from what, 8 years ago?yeah i dress like a faggot, some of us are proud of not being straight because we dont have whatever weird internalised shame youve got going on. by "faggot" i mean tasteful floral shirts and nice fitting pants btw, with nice leather shoes. if i am to transition id like to retain my gay sense for aesthetic restraint and the concept of manhood unburdened by the need to push womanhood on others.
>>43682351You clearly still have a male identity, but this is understandable since you're pre-trans. If you do transition you'll hopefully realise pretty soon why you actually need to do get rid of it as quickly as possible and just embrace being a woman instead. Anyway, since you're pre trans I doubt OP will laugh at you, for now anyway
>>43682382i think you wholly misunderstand. im on HRT, have been for years. i just dont care about women or womanhood. my life isnt about them, its about me, and what i enjoy. i hope youre enjoying womanhood, but i personally have never really wanted that cage.
>>43682524In that case it probably depends on whether OP clocks you or not
>>43674274i wonder what life choices lead you to doing this?kinda sad
>>43682602oh shell absolutely clock me, i openly fagvoice for one
>>43674487>please stop having a disgusting agp puppygirl orgy the schutzstaffel is outside and is going to kill us all>um let people enjoy things!! theyre nazi chuds anyway!! are you implying that being sexual is a bad thing?
>>43674251idk anon you described them being happy like 3 times. seems more like a you problem.
>>43681281No, I am too old for this :(Employed dog woman.......
>>43683328how do you present in public?
>>43674901> Assimilation and respectability has literally never been the way to go for social movementsWhy do leftoids repeat this mantra? Gays literally got their acceptance when normies realized the median one was normal and not a bath house cruising megafag. The sanctified leader of the black civil rights movement went to marches in a suit. Respectability politics works. Trannies are the first social group to reject this strategy, and are also the first group to see their rights get clawed back, because of some insane fixation on a mythologized account of Stonewall. Currently we are pre-2000s in some legal aspects. Hope the honmoders playing sports, the polycule outings to the county fair, and the drag time story hours were worth it.
>>43684369you are an absolute child if you think this is true. respectability politics works on the up, as the right hand to offer a better alternative to something worse. it doesnt work on the down, on the way down the only viable strategy is to make it as painful as possible to hurt your people while begging more powerful groups to intervene on your behalf.this is why the anti-MIC trannies are fucking retarded. we need the ability to kill people for hurting us. people need to be able to see that the price of hurting our kind is to have highly talented people dedicate their whole lives to murdering you and your kin.
>>43684396Do you think the jews would’ve been fine if they just committed some random acts of violence in the 1930s? Sure that would’ve shown those pesky Germans, right? No way that could generate justification for increased state repression…Trannies (defined here as medical transitioners) are 0.1% of the population. Any path forward which involves force is an elaborate mass suicide. Would you rather die in a muddy ditch, or dress like a self respecting person and compromise? By the late 2010s we really had it good.
>>43684437random acts of violence? no. organised paramilitary action? probably not in that case, but were not quite the jews in the 30s here, the level of accusation and the actual traceability isnt the same, nor is public sentiment. >Trannies (defined here as medical transitioners) are 0.1% of the populationwhich is why we have the LGBT as a thing.>By the late 2010s we really had it good.you are as profoundly stupid as you are selfish
>>43684460NTA but actually pretty sure we are roughly the same % of the population as Jews in 30s Nazi Germany, LGB won't do shit, not calling them bad allies but no group can be expected to die for us when their rights are largely intact. Repeatedly murdering high profile figures, regardless of whether YOU think they're evil or not, is a quick way to become absolutely vilified as anti democratic terrorists. I've seen /pol/posters pray that a tranny would assassinate trump so that the next president could utterly eliminate us with zero resistance.Not really sure what's so stupid about saying that the late 2010s were good. I'd argue that the real peak was 2015 but legal rights and public sentiment have nose dived since 2020 and there's mountains of data to prove it. Terminally online underaged leftists try not to revise history challenge: IMPOSSIBLE
>>43674251>go to small festival with coworkersdo wagies really?
>>43684538why not? I got a pay rise to €75k a year the same day + the entry fee was expensible for team building + my coworkers are pretty fun to be around, there's even 4tranny who works in an adjacent department
>>43684460>organised paramilitary action?Hons would literally do ANYTHING instead of thinking about optics for 5 seconds. Hons will claim our only path to liberation is recreating ISIS, then not go create tranny ISIS.Comb your hair. Wear clothing that suits you. Fetish wear? Leave it at the front door. The world isn't asking you to become some stepford wife parody, just make an attempt to be normal-ish.>>43684508>I've seen /pol/posters pray that a tranny would assassinate trump so that the next president could utterly eliminate us with zero resistance.After Kirk got shot, they were twisting themselves into pretzels trying to say the guy who did it was actually a tranny to create cause to stomp us out for good. All it takes is one chudhon chimping out in a deranged rage and our group is liquidated.
>>43684508obviously. you do not target public figures, you target people who avoid the limelight who do all the actual work of organising things. if we actually wanted to do a terrorism, we dont want to be nailbombing protests, we want to bomb the orgs quietly running things.>Not really sure what's so stupid about saying that the late 2010s were good. I'd argue that the real peak was 2015 but legal rights and public sentiment have nose dived since 2020 and there's mountains of data to prove it.theres absolutely no shortage of personal accounts that absolutely nothing materially changed between the 2000s and the 2010s, except that well off people got to exploit our genuine struggles for PR while doing nothing meaningful, and it was still as socially acceptable as ever to PA and SA trannies outside of the public eye. every tranny i knew was poor as fuck, barely able to afford their meds, and just about getting by socially if they were lucky. the only significant advances in tranny prospects in the 2010s were made by trannies themselves for other trannies, and a few convenient boosts in surgery availability on insurance. the progressive attitude of the 2010s was largely illusory.>>43684785>Hons would literally do ANYTHING instead of thinking about optics for 5 seconds.dimwits will do literally anything but focus enough to read for 5 seconds.>just make an attempt to be normal-ish.you are profoundly delusional
>>43685471>the only significant advances in tranny prospects in the 2010s were made by trannies themselves for other trannies, and a few convenient boosts in surgery availability on insurance. the progressive attitude of the 2010s was largely illusory.>onlyHRT online became vastly more accessible.Insane 20th Century style gatekeeping died out. In 2010 getting told to do RLE for a few years before getting estrogen was the norm still.Insurance started covering tranny surgery... most of us need surgery to be an integrated member of society not condemned to poverty forever, so that's huge.Legal sex changes became way more accessible. Paperwork requirements plummeted, more states allowed birth certificate changes, getting a passport became way easier. If you were a blue state troon, you could become a cis woman in the eyes of the state.And socially, we went from reviled freaks by 90% of society to reviled freaks by like 50% of society. Annoying wokists started becoming a problem, but it wasn't until the Biden era those people got actual institutional power.From my experience being a tranny through that whole decade, we made enormous gains. At the outset it felt like we were rats barely avoiding extermination, by the end we felt like members of society. 2020-2024 was actually so fucking bad for us because of living optics nuke triumphalists who thought they had won by being aggressive being emboldened by the government and big NGOs... and now it looks like we get to return to trying to survive. Insurance is being clawed back, good luck on the passport, social approval is trending down, and HRT is being slowly squeezed (first for youth, but it seems eventually for everyone).>you are profoundly delusionalNot an argument.
Picrel is responsible for trans progress and regression not individual peoples choices.
>>43685679There were communist countries where trans people saw their rights advance and capitalist countries where trans people saw no progress. And vice versa. Trying to turn Marxism 101 into a theory of everything doesn't work very well.
>>43685713What you just said is consistent with dialectical materialisim though? Im saying that if we study the material differences in those countries we will see why some advanced trans rights while others didnt. Attempting to explain it through individual choice would get us no where
>>43685727>Attempting to explain it through individual choice would get us no whereIndividual choice is a product of genetics and environment (more genetics than people would like to admit), and aggregated individual choices become culture, but Marxists tend to bug out when you tell them that genetics are a material condition. Not everything in the world is the relationship between labor and capital.
>>43685750Not everything in the world is the relation between labour and capital, but most things are tied up in that relationship somehow.I dont dissagree that genetics is a material force that influences outcomes but i think if your argument is that genetics bears more weight on peoples decisions than the forces of production, then you are incorrect. Our societys have changed great deals while our genetics havent, and socitys with quite similar genetics varry a great deal (the prussians and the small nearby free low country peasent nations for example)
>>43685782>Our societys have changed great deals while our genetics haventt. someone who has never evaluated the genetic impact of the agricultural revolution
>>43685471You are an unhinged idiot if not a bad faith liar, talking to you is pointless. Assuming you're not a 3 letter agent, please turn yourself into a psyche ward ASAP. I fear righteous morons like you more than I do right wing grifters holy fuck.
>>43685793The ag. Rev. Changed our genetics, not vice versa. Thats evidence of productive forces influencing genetics.
>>43685834It was a cycle which gradually built on itself over thousands of years, continuously up until ~150 years ago when humans stopped experiencing much natural selection. Selection was responsive to culture as well, as rich people were a population source, the poor a population sink, and culture (the collective of everyone's individual choices and attitudes) determines who gets ahead. Overall point being... individual choices matter and arise from material conditions and reinforce them. Marxists love to throw up their hands and claim individual agency is meaningless because of some vacuous "material conditions" (>>43685679). But the material conditions arise from every individual's actions and feelings. Back to the main point - act like a normal fucking human, at least in public, please? As much as you can without totally losing it?
>>43685884What you are describing is the interaction (dialectic) between cultural superstructure and material base. Yes culture (actions/choices) can effect and shape the material base but the material base has primacy ex. The change in productive mode to argiculture drives the rest of the change, attempting to predict or control it via individual choice is not productive on a societal scale
>>43685928>but the material base has primacy exThis is religious doctrine, more than material analysis. Tons of cultures exist which exist in enormous tension with the local mode of production. Calling either the primary one is retarded.Once again, the attempt to downplay individual choice is just boring leftist hatred of personal responsibility. Society is the result of many individuals making choices. Yours matter too.
>>43674251A tranny trying her best to pass and appease cissoids and make them comfortable, with the exception of being from eastern Europe or something where passing means surviving, is like being a sheep trying to act nice so that the wolf doesn't kill you. These people will only see you as "one of the good ones" and won't think twice before misgendering you to death if you dare to step out of line. STOP CARING ABOUT OPTICSBE WN OGRE HON IN PUBLIC MAKE CIS SCUM UNCOMFORTABLE STOP GIVING ASHITNIGGER NIGGER NIGGER AAAAAAAADON'T BE THE SHEEP PRETENDING TO BE ONE OF THE GOOD ONES
>>43686459It's really not that difficult, all I do is act like a normal person. I don't really consider that "acting like a sheep" unless you're implying that by not wanting to broadcast my fetishes in public, I am behaving like a sheep.
>>43686541If your doing it to preserve optics and make cissoids comfortable then you're giga sheep.Only major advancements in tranny tech will end transphobia. The moment John 50 can transition and look like a cis 20 year old cute chick called Ashleigh from Colorado then the masses will adopt it and suddenly being trans is OK.til then, make them uncomfortable on purpose They TOLERATE you, they don't accept you worth a fuck
>>43685624>HRT online became vastly more accessible.trannies did this>Insane 20th Century style gatekeeping died out. In 2010 getting told to do RLE for a few years before getting estrogen was the norm still.and was rendered irrelevant by the existence of a ukranian with some oil and a bag of powder, who probably did more for trannies than this policy change did.>Insurance started covering tranny surgery... most of us need surgery to be an integrated member of society not condemned to poverty forever, so that's huge.precious few trannies actually tangibly benefited from this overall, and as soon as the numbers went up the rug pulling started.>Legal sex changes became way more accessible. Paperwork requirements plummeted, more states allowed birth certificate changes, getting a passport became way easier. If you were a blue state troon, you could become a cis woman in the eyes of the state.not contesting this just contesting how much material impact it actually has to trannies lives overall.>And socially, we went from reviled freaks by 90% of society to reviled freaks by like 50% of society. Annoying wokists started becoming a problem, but it wasn't until the Biden era those people got actual institutional power.is this actually something that happened outside of the public gaze?>by the end we felt like members of societylucky for you. i still know plenty of trannies who were marginal all throughout that time and continue to be marginal now.>i had it goodgood for you, you were one of the few.>Not an argument.how about optics nukes are karma?
>>43685810thats wonderful, but youre still in the minority and will continue to be as most people arent gullible enough to forget what actually happened over the last 16 years.
>>43687418>how much material impact it actually has to trannies lives overall.Without updates to your legal documents, you are outing yourself to every employer, landlord, bank, police officer, etc. who might wish to discriminate against you. It is a yellow Star of David affixed to your entire personhood which marks you for abuse. This is probably the single most materially meaningful gain we made, since as you noted, we can just buy bathtub hormones off some Ukrainian or Brazilian, and public opinion has never been particularly warm for us, even at the peak.>precious few trannies actually tangibly benefited from this overallWith blue states actively mandating coverage, I'd say a very large proportion of trannies were able to take advantage in some way.>good for you, you were one of the few.>lucky for youA good number of us had it very good, more than at any point in history. Just because you and your compatriots had it bad, doesn't negate that. In fact, if we continued on the course we were on, the gains would likely have spread.
>>43686611Whilst I agree with that technology is the main thing that drives social progress, I just don't agree with the black and white thinking that we should give up on optics in the meantime, just because we can't end totally end transphobia, doesn't mean we can't eliminate it our local communities by refuting ma'amhon caricatures by being normal
>>43687570>Without updates to your legal documents, you are outing yourself to every employer, landlord, bank, police officer, etc. who might wish to discriminate against you. It is a yellow Star of David affixed to your entire personhood which marks you for abuse.this is a fair point, for the few trannies for whom this made a meaningful difference.>With blue states actively mandating coverage, I'd say a very large proportion of trannies were able to take advantage in some way.yeah this is kind of you advertising your myopia. the actual impact of blue states in particular making this a policy and corporations doing everything i saw them doing to limit the loss from that, im not exactly inclined to say this is the massive community uplifting win you think it was.>if we continued on the course we were on, the gains would likely have spread.but that wouldnt have happened, because wile you were enjoying this (i wasnt, i was in other places doing other things and trooning out was an "if i have to but not if i dont" back then) people were quietly setting up this little rug pull youre currently experiencing for you. if you took a look at what actually happened, youd realise that you have essentially been kept like fat little lambs for an inevitable economic crash and resulting rightward spiral. you were made as you were so that you could look like a perfect little victim for people hungry for any scapegoat the media has prepared for them.this is what i actually mean when i say trannies need to do effective violence. you werent fucked over by optics nuke types, those are made and herded as needed. what actually happened is people with money picked you out to take the fall and that chain of money eventually made its way to the people who could actually hurt you and take things away from you. its not a solution, but if we were serious about preventing this wed know the flow of money and the persons involved is one of very few brakes we can slam on.
>>43688008>this is what i actually mean when i say trannies need to do effective violenceHoly fuck go join Azov or something if you are so committed to dying a pointless, male-brained death.>i wasnt, i was in other places doing other things and trooning out was an "if i have to but not if i dont" back thenFucking reppers, istg"Wahh wahh Obama era liberalism wasn't good enough, I just HAD to repress"
