I HONestly dont get st4t. Why do people claim it to be better than st4cis?? The tranner gf i had called me fat, a lesbian, said she wanted to hit me and make me pregnant and cheated all the time.Tried a different one, stood me up for the date.Tried another one. Thaught i finally found the one, had a fun date. She actually looked and behaved female. Had a fun personality. Said she liked me and the way i looked after the date. Texted for about 2 days. Then ghosted me. I was so upset after this one. Genuienly prettiest girl i have ever seen. Wr matched really well in just about everything. And what was even better: she lived a 10 min walk away from me. Normally all st4t I can find are at the other side of the country and total hons I have 0 in common with. Literally why would you act interested and then ghost. Its so evil. I texted her multiple times and even asked if she wasnt interested anymore. She didnt even reply. Yesterday i tried another one. She acted vague the whole day, and then she also, stood me up.Fr like atp whats even in it for me. I keep making time for these girls, re arranging my plans to make time for them. Put time and effort in planning a date, pay for the date all to get 0 effort in return. Where can i find one thats actually mature, emotionally available, not an addict loser without a job or future plans that isnt a complete and utter hon? Like im even open to a hon if she atleast tries to be feminine...The previous hon i had wouldnt even always shave her facial hair.. she didnt have a lot but i could still see/feel it which was a total turn off. Where are the normal trannys???? God plsss i beg Or should i just give up and date the misandrist terf cis lesbians in my dms? Like fr its so bad and my hearts been broken so many times im even considering trying men rn.
>>43685719the only constant here is you lil poon
>>43685757What? Ion get this sentence
>>43685761maybe ur too ugly and unpassing to get a good tranny
>>43685719>st4t. >st4cisWhat is this? what do they mean?
>>43685719>called me fat, a lesbian, said she wanted to hit me and make me pregnant and cheated all the timebased
>>43685803I think i look very okay for a tranny. Im not a chad mogger no. But decent atleast. My ex called me out of her league and buff. But she was a hon so her bar mustnt hav ebeen to high. One of my male friend said i was handsome. But i think i look very avarage for a tranny tbf. And i mean the avarage of actual trannys not theyfab puppyboy polycule ahh.And I always pass. So thats not an issue.I am short tho and no bottom surgery yet
>>43685822st4t = ftm and mtf dating each otherst4cis/st4c = mtf dating cism or ftm dating cisf
>>43685822straight trans for trans ( pooner x hon)straight trans for cis ( pooner x lesbo)r u guys retarded?
>>43685822'They' kysBut st4t means straight t4t aka tranny woman + tranny man relationship. St4cis means straight tranny dates a cis person.
>>43685843>My ex called me out of her league and buff. and yet you were being mistreated by her? stand up lil dood. you should have punched her down a couple pegs and broken up with her after. clearly the core thing missing here is that's your a bit of a pussy bitch and they're picking up on it
>>43685850>straight trans = pooner This is insane!
>>43685864I mean shes my ex, i dumped her. I also confronted her multiple times but apparently she disnt give a fuck so yeah thats why shes my ex lol. How could i know from the get go that shes a retarted rapehon. I assumed most people to be more normal and decent.And i mean how is it my fault that people dont arrive at dates and ghost me? How should ive known man... why is it normal to assume people are retarted nowadays. God
>>43685872mtfs are always either hsts metaattracted or agp hons and so incapable of true sexual attraction
>>43685719st4t is a fucked up relationship dynamic, just like every other option you get being transcan st4t work? of course, but only under super specific circumstances that are hard to achieve:>both must be trutrans and straight (so you don't get hefabs or agp hons who want piv)>both must be virgins (so neither party knows what they're "missing out" on)>both must know eachother early in or pre transition (linked to requirement 1, trutrans tend to go stealth if possible)if you're too old, it's basically off the cards, and there's no advantage to st4t over just dating a cis personeven if you find someone who fits all 3 you also have to be compatible as people and also swallow down some other standards you may have, like my bf is much shorter than I'd ideally want
>>43685858>St4cis means straight tranny dates a cis person.Silly Straight tranny date men. Lesbian tranny date women. Cis or trans doesn't matter
>>43685719Finally a woman get to taste what a man has to go through when dating women
>>43685893You're just a full of shit person, making full of shit statements
>>43685886idk ive honestly never used a dating app, seems immensely demoralizing. id rather just be single for life, but i landed getting a partner by friend of friend contact. being single doesn't seem so bad, more time to focus on yourself and interests, sometimes i wish i didn't have a partner so i could focus more on my work lol
Sounds like most men. Just date cis women, many are fine with trans men, especially bisexual cis women and won't treat you like shit. The people in this thread are great examples of shitty people to avoid
>>43685904yeah :p we ragebait a little bit sometimes... im procrastinating making breakfast by taking a dump and being annoying on 4chan
>>43685858anon probably didn't mean "they" referring to you, they most likely were referring to the terms of st4c and st4t
>>43685893Ive noticed yeah. But what should be the best option then;A cis lesbian chaser (they tend to be dominant tho and i hate that)A trans lesbian chaser (some secretly or not secretly like transmen but i feel like they only like the feminine hairless ones that basically look like woman)A cis straight or 'bi' female who will leave me for a cis men and leave my heart permemantly brokenA bi cis male (i dont think i can be into men but maybe if he would look and act like a woman i could do it. I think only bi men can be into passing transmen so gay and straight isnt really an option here.)A trans man (i would never do this because me being attracted to a transmale would mean me being solely attracted to his feminine side so thatd feel wrong)(Im a passing short poon with slightly muscles and a mustache and no dick yet)
>>43685898I mean I have never dated men lol and I was also never one of the ones that claimed men have it easy. I knew this would happen but it still sucks lol. When woman in my circle are sexist i always correct them on it. They dont wanna listen tho
>>43685909As someone that hates his work and gets his joy from hobbies and human interaction i cant live like that. Wish i could be like that, but i really want a gf to do all the sappy couple stuff with. But i fear ill end up alone. Lowering my standards didnt work
>>43685719trannies are incapable of true love, this is a well-known phenomenon
>>43685926I mean i have tried. They also called me gay, treated me like a last option or were misandrist. Since i pass cis woman barely even swipe on me or dont reply to me. I also always hear about bi woman missing dick and thatd be my biggest nightmare. Like with a bi woman id know she could get much better anytime she wanted to. So if theyd even want me, id live in constant fear.
>>43685948idk cultivate the ability to be alone and bring that energy to a relationship, show them ur doing them a favor by being their partner not the other way around. im a genuinely believer that for a relationship to be good you need a power imbalance in interest or at least a belief that even if they left you you wouldn't loose too much. but im something of a schizoid pooner wth a massive sub repper bf who depends on me for a lot while im successful so i can't rlly tell you how to get a normal relationship
>>43686018>I also always hear about bi woman missing dickIt's not just bi women.
>>43686018find a virgin, that's your only option there's no virgin cis women so look for a tranny
>>43686051im a pooner wth a cism bf and hes a virgin but still craves dickwants me to cuckold him probably for the chance to suck cock. honestly pooners have no opportunities, just have to accept ur an enhanced tomboy, even if you pass externally.
>>43685719>Why do people claim it to be better than st4cis?Only transbians claim that lol.
>>43686028Yeah i know. A lot of 'lesbians' nowadays are bi or even straight woman that just hate men bc of a bad ex theyve once had. Id say from what ive seen (ive met a lot of 'queer' people) 90% of girl that claim their lesbian are bi or straight. Id say about 70% are straight and maybe 20% bi with a huge men preference. Its happened about 6 times now that ive seen a 'lesbian' woman dump her gf and get with a pick me male. But i know a real one when i see one, trust. How u recognise them:Dont gaf bout looksHas been friends with men from a young ageDoesnt hate menActs like one themselves lowkActually Doesnt care about male attention, doesnt make 'not caring about men' half her personalityActually fucking likes pussy and wants to stick her tounge in it. Doesnt make being gay her whole personality
>>43686051I found like one virgin tranny at the other side of the country but she was pre e and immediatly started talking about her fucking me in front of the mirror... no thank you
>>43685719Your an ugly fat baby faced short creatureThe only thing that would make you a man, a fat cock between your legs, doesn't exist and instead there is a swampy hairy gooey vagina flap thats revolting in every single way. The truth is you will never be loved
>>43686093that's brutal I'm sorry I don't know if this is the best place to admit it but my bf not having a dick has been a massive roadblock for me even being a virgin myself the whole reason I even say find a virgin is because i genuinely think it's the ONLY possible it could work
>>43686093Yeah in this soceity its what it feels like yeah. An enchanted tomboy, but like a bad enchantment. Transwoman always talk abou having it the worst but atleast they can find love easilybwith a chaser. Our chasers are barely out there, and if theyre there they want us pre t. Do chasers that chase actual hairy passing poons even exist?
>>43686135how old are you? age is definitely gonna be an issue if you're 20+ for finding a virgin
>>43685719You should just let me, a cis male, have sex with you.
>>43685893i have a true sexual and romantic attraction to xy males and im mtf kys!!!
>>43686139Im slightly ripped actually, but sure mate. Its kind of facinating how much 4chan hates transmen. They really do see us as woman after all huh
>>43686168Yeah im 22
>>43686177You wouldnt even want to mate im hairy asf, muscled with a male build, mustache and male voice.
>>43686204I said what I said. You should let me, a cis male, have sex with you.
>>43686214I pass
>>43686226You said that before, yes.
>>43686153it's fine idk i wouldn't mind cucking him and letting him suck dick i think i could manage, im more worried that it would turn out being me getting cucked also bc im hairy n kinda mid so i doubt we'll ever find someone to fuck me lol
>>43686244So cis chasers that chase passing men trannies do exist? Whats the thrill of it for you
>>43686261Brotha ur heart will be broken. As someone whose heart has been beoken many times before, better leave now than be broken up with. Keep ur selfworth man. Better alone than be treated like fucking shit.
OP Anon do you live in new york or chicago? I bounce between those places a lot and we could swap discords in you’re near. (youngshit passing mtf)
>>43686317I dont live in america
>>43686028this "tme" retardation is so annoying go back to tumblr
>>43686261I could literally never cuck my bf that's horrible, if my craving for cis dick ever got that strong I'd just break up
>>43686352he wants me to cuck him. some people like that kind of stuff. i honestly don't super want to, but it's hot how into it he is it's kinda a fantasy right now so i doubt it will ever really happen but we role play it like me fucking a dildo and him watching
>>43686310we've been together 3 years now and im wildly more successful than he is. i just want someone who will never leave me and who will die old wth me.
>>43686421Real
>>43685719Do you pass?Do you have a job?Are you malebrained?
>>43686406I also want my bf to cuck me with a cis woman but I would never suggest the other way round, just make sure it doesn't turn into that ig
>>43686510i mean he's a massive bottom so im not worried abt him deciding to cuck me im worried the bulls would want to fuck him and not me lol.
>>43686505I passI have a jobProbably? Im not sure what that means. But I consider myself to be more on the masculine side yes. Not a hypermasculine the rock type of guy tho. Im more of a nerd
>>43686536Do you watch drag race, doll making, artsy youtubers, or anything kurtis Conner adjacent?
Oml I'm gonna kms if I keep getting duck pics from her IDC oml why am I forced into this??????
>>43685719>>43685948I wish I had a st4t husbandidk what could be wrong in your situation but you're considering dating a cis lesbian? and it seems like you dated some creepy faketrans hons? you need to have more respect for yourself
>>43686565Uh no idk who that last one is
>>43686663I mean atp I just want anyone to love me and not leave me and treat me like shit. I dont think a cis straight woman will ever live and not leave me so im considering other options but if they treat me like shit too ill just be alone forever i guess
cant help ur problem as a transbian but i would commiserate with you over drinks if you lived closer sorry poonbro. The world is kind of a bitch just take the first good woman you can really love regardless if shes cis or trans. Dont stoop yourself to a terf though ew
>>43685719>said she wanted to hit me and make me pregnant and cheated all the time.I like how the deboonkers say the lesbian DV meme dont real
>>43685719>I keep making time for these girls, re arranging my plans to make time for themlow value male signal, if they had your literal twin in their dms at the same time but he acted like his time was more important, they'd be more likely to ghost you and go for him
>>43687754Yeah then youre clear, you just met trans women that either dont like trans men or are just shitty. Good luck! Hope you find a good women (cis or otherwise)
>>43687967I think its weird if you have to act like you dont care to attract someone. Makes me question the kind of people who fall for that. They must have no self respect. If i care im not gonna pretend i dont to seem cooler. The idea alone is incredibly cringe to me
>>43686114>Doesnt hate men>Doesnt make being gay her whole personalitythose are big uns
>>43688004seems to be less about "uncaring aloof for the sake of it cuz cool" and more "he's high-status/ambitious/successful (socially too) enough that he has important stuff going on and isn't literally below me, a woman, but is instead a man I can look up to", and the biggest ick generator being if you "submit" to her in terms of scheduling or choosing what to do, depending on how retarded she is (some are more so than others)but unironically it helps both you and her if you don't bend over to accommodate the woman that should be desiring to be with you. notably, you don't have to be a dick about it, and it's even an ick if you get upsetti or otherwise act womanly about the conflict
>>43685719trans women are women unfortunately
>>43688110You sound like a virgin incel that watchedbandrew tate sorry. But no woman wants a 'high value alpha male' exept misogenist christian tradwives lol. And ion want one of those. And id also doubt theyd date a tranny lol. As someone that has and has had a lot of woman friends, woman in general want a tall handsome male with a dick thats also slightly a pick me. Thats what my friends always fall for atleast. Slightly alternative, but not too much. Agrees to their 'man bad' rant. Drinks matcha. Thats what woman actually want. But i failed already at the tall and has a dick lol.Im not acting like a desperate incel loser towards woman dw. I just reply within a reasonable time, and rearrange plans if i can to see her more often. As a man you ahould care for your woman. And a woman who actually cares about you would appreciate it. My reply about the 'conflict' was bringing up the problem i had. Multiple times. When i was fed up and noticed no change her chances were over and i broke up with her. When woman take 3 days to reply to a single message i message them im looking for someone that takes me and my time seriously and i break it off.I have self respect, i just have trouble finding someone that respects me too.
>>43688192how tall and attractive are you?
>>43688217Im 5'5How attractive i am is hard to say about myself. Depends on who i conpare myself with an on the day and how much i try. If i compare myself to other trannies i think im avarage/lowk uglier. Theres some really good looking transmen out there but ive also seen a few very ugly ones. Id say im a 4 or 5 out of 10 tranny. On a good day a 6 or 7 out of 10 tranny (good clothes on, hair looking fresh. If i compare myself to cis men i feel like a fucking 0 bruh so i have no clue.
>>43688192sorry man, been with a lass or few and "seems like you don't have a lot going on" can be an ickrest of your post sounds like feminist butthurt so if you don't mind, I'll skip it
>>43688314>Im 5'5
>>43688344Bro what? I nowhere mentioned feminism. I just named what woman want from a men lol.
>>43688358Yeah auto left swipe for 99% of womanExactly why atp even considering dating men. Maybe theres a desperate femboy out there with a plastic dick kink
>>43685719moid complaining lmao, please vent harder mo- i mean daddy i can only get so hard
>>43688314>5'5"yeah it's fuckedmy boyfriend didn't fit my height requirement but I started dating him anyway because he's otherwise perfect. so uhh idk what advice I could give you
>>43686284It's not that complicated. I'm attracted to men and I like putting my penis in people.
>>43685898Are cis women raping cis men. It must be dangerous to be a hetero cis man
>>43685719St4t is beautiful but you still need to be compatible with someone. You can’t ride off of just being trans alone. Aside from the first person who was a piece of shit, all your complaints just sound like normal dating bullshit.>Date very feminine woman>waawaa im getting ghostedWelcome to the real world
>>43689393Welp fair i guess
>>43692067I hate modern dating so fucking much. Can all immature emotionally unavailable people just not date and stick to hookups??
>>43692808You type and are offended like a woman. Honestly man just grow up, just because you grow facial hair doesn’t mean you don’t have foid levels of me-me-me-me-I-deserve-to-be-worshipped. Maybe the trannies you dated preferred a less neurotic guy idk.
>>43692850Again your posts are just humiliating to read and idk why you’re even on this site. Are you a 4tran refugee?
>>43692067Idk why trans people do the usual dating bullshit considering how much harder it is for us to date. maybe its a human thing
>>43692850Sure dude the 4tran weirdo knows best. Being treated normal is not being worshipped
>>43692855I have a reddit perma ban because reddit hates it when youre honest and dont believe 14yr old puppyboy they/it/he kai with her tits out should transition
>>43693281Whay else am i supposed to do? Get an AI gf?
>>43693324Ah, so you are an NLOG truscum refugee after all. Explains the whole “waawaa 4chan hates me” crying. Please man up for three years and then come back
>>43693348Nahh its a fact 4chan lowk hate transmen. Lots of misogenists here and they see usvas woman so they hate us. Somebare jealous transwoman that dont understand why we would ever transition. Some are maga type that think its against god or whatever. Some are sad losers mad at their ex gf projecting it onto us. But cmon u cant deny people here are extra weird against transmen. I mean this aint the most decent moderated place in general no, but just look at just any trans men saying anything and how people react on here. Theres a reason this place has not much transmen
>>43693348>truscumeveryone here is a truscum you newfag this is the only place where we don't have to pretend that getting plapped in your boipussy is vxlid
>>43688380>auto left swipe for 99% of womanDo you live in the US? Only American women are that much concerned about men's height. If you don't live in the US you might just be delusional, and it's not an appearance thing but a your-behaviour thing
>>43693480literally every woman prefers a tall man you don't have to pretend this is limited to the US i hate when other troons spout bluepilled cope like "it must be your personality", it's a sign of an early transition (unlikely) or a completely sheltered life (probably from autism)my bf is 5'6" and i wish he was taller. am i gonna break up with him? no, because he's a great guy. am i gonna pretend that i along with every other person on this planet isn't at least somewhat shallow even if they try not to be/say they're not? also no because lying to people doesn't helpchin up OP i'm sorry you have these retards replying to you. just try and be the best you can, wear shoe lifts, maybe get LLS if necessary, find an early transition twinkhon and marry her
>>43693544The man i'm dating is 5'11.I never said height wasn't relevant, but it's clearly not an absolute deal breaker for most women, even at 5'5.I'm 5'3 so as long as the man I'm dating isn't much smaller than me I wouldn't really mind.
>>43693544>my bf is 5'6" (...) am i gonna break up with him? no, because he's a great guyYou're literally proving my point that personality matters more than height by the way??
>>43693576>The man i'm dating is 5'11lol>>43693583no i'm not, best believe if he was even a couple inches shorter we wouldn't be dating, and his height has been a major point of contention for me. the reason i'm telling OP to find a twinkhon virgin is because that's what i was and if i had been at the point i was now i wouldn't have given my bf the time of day to even know what his personality is like, i would've just filtered him immediately. i'm also shorter than my bf- most trannies are taller than me and have bigger height requirements
>>43693384Please stop embarrassing us any further. I beg you to come back after a couple years>>43693472It has never been truscum you stupid faggot. We have always been pro-DIY and against medical gatekeeping. Everyone can transition, your dad can take estrogen, it’s an act, not an identity
>>43693796>It has never been truscum you stupid faggotare you joking? the belief you need dysphoria to be trans is the main belief here
>>43693810We have never been truscum you newfag, we weren’t seven years ago and we aren’t now. There is no unifying belief, that’s something Redditors think we have. Aaaa spooky based 4chan hackers. Literally nobody here gives a fuck if you take hormones without dysphoria. You getting treated as anon and not with soft gloves isn’t something to cry about
>>43693472Anybody who cares if a trans man gets in his pussy is a loser. Why the fuck would that matter lol. Hope all piv poons have a good day
>>43693641>i'm also shorter than my bfit's all that matters
>>43694138yeah but in OP's case it's gonna be hard to find a trans woman shorter than him
>>43693641>i wouldve filtered him immediately today bc of heightyoure implying you settled with your bf because you didnt think you could find anything better at the time. height will always be a blackpill because of people like you
>>43694322yes that's pretty much exactly what i meanti don't not love my bf, because he's a good person, but i wouldn't have even got to known him
>>43693472Tourist detected
>>43694086because if you use the most dysphoric part of your body you're not trans>>43694347whatever you say
>>43693970>he's only been here for 7 yearsnewfag. being trutrans has nothing to do with your position on DIYgo back zoomer
>>43693480Avarage male in my country is 6'2 im a fucking dwarf here. Also all woman want tall men its not just america.
>>43693796You know transmeds arent against diy right? Atleast not my country. Like diy or not doesnt really have anything to do with believing wether trans is a choice or not. In my experience, transmeds are even more pro diy because waiting lists are endless and we actually understand the neccessity of hormones.
>>43695093Either find a tgirl who is shorter than you, either find one who is into smaller men, either date a cis woman
>>43695119Cis woman dont want me or are horrible peopleTranswoman on avarage are 6'2 shortest one ive met was 5'9.Im short even for woman in this country. I should honestly just move to china
>>43695134where tf do you live??
>>43695093Do you unironically live in the Netherlands or Bosnia or some shit
I want an st4t bf so badly, I live in Seattle, I thought I'd be able to easily find one, but the only one I've matched with on a dating app, he and I just didn't click. We had nothing in common besides us both being trans, and that plain and simply isn't enough for a relationship. He was also poly which, cringe.
