Fellow HRTwinks what is some stuff about estrogen you didn't think would happen/didn't anticipate the severity of? Hard Mode: don't mention tits.For me it was the crying.
>>43688712The crying isn’t a hrt thing that’s just what happens to twinks after the age of 24
>>43688712I didnt think it would make my stomach fat :(
zero libido.
>>43688808No I used to be stoic and manly like Marcus Aurelius and now I cried thinking about how much nicer I look now.
>>43688712probably the weird, ashy appearance of my skin. im not necessarily more feminine, just weird and uncanny looking
>>43688712>severity ofnothing bad really? my body hair lightened way more than i expected.
>>43688712I mean this is positive but laughing is genuinely much better
>>43689486>Marcus Aurelius larper crying in your arms because estrogen made him crave hugs
>>43689486You don’t talk like a twink you talk like…you watch a lot of podcasts…
>>436887120% libido. i went from always wanting to fuck something but nobody wanting to fuck me, to people wanting to fuck me but i'm never wanting to fuck.
>>43691739oh i would fuck his tight little ass so tender
>>43691739it may have made me crave them but that doesn't mean I would ever admit it to anyone
Not a Twink but hurt cis maleSomehow the tone of my voice had become more high pitched and softer. Not physically but psychologically something prevents me from talking normally.
>>43689486I cry but not because of anything nice or positive
>>43689486manliest HRT femboy/twink
I wish i were a hrt twink but sadly i'm just a male
>>43689486CUTE Would husband
>>43691739>>43692432>>43695737What exactly is the appeal?
Bottom dysphoria.>inb4 did yuo get the snipyeah>>43696706
>>43688712i didnt expect people to detect anything off with me. but they do, even though they never seem to figure out exactly what it is. it scares me, i just want to live normally.
>>43696706He's cute and activates the cuteness aggression instinct
>>43697074Hoe dont you have a man already
>>43697367Yes but do you think I'm being serious rn?
>>43697392Sorry
>>43688712Loose skin (I have hypermobility) after the deep muscle loss a few years in
>>43689631moisturize your skin if you aren't already doing so
>>43688812it does tend to cause subq fat gain.you could always lose a little weight if you want, or look at something like pioglitazone to push more to your hips. up to you.
>>43697074I wouldn't want my bf calling other guys cute and husband material
>>43693371i was going to say this, the same thing happened to me too
>>43688712i was hoping to lose my libido completely (cause im an unlovable freak and i dont want to get in a relationship with anyone) and while i dont get randomly horny anymore really , if im around someone i like i get awful overwhelming urges to be close to them like not really even sexual, just to touch or cuddle with them or whatever. but i have to avoid doing it because i wouldn't want to make them uncomfortable. the worst part is that the only times i randomly get hard now is when im around people i really like in that way which feels so incredibly embarrassing and humiliating. i wish i could perma kill my dick
>>43698245do you like it? i find it annoying
>>43688712I get really bad laughing fits sometimes now that make me look insane
>>43699102This happened to me too, along with the crying.
>>43688712inverse of the question but i was expecting a libido nuke but it's more like a mild damper than anything. it was pretty disappointing
>>43699137taking cypro is the biggest libido nuke
>>43698601yeah its bad, gay troon voice :/
>>43688712>stuff about estrogen you didn't think would happen/didn't anticipate the severity of?I keep thinking that I'm actually somehow a woman
>>43688712I havent started hrt yet but im terrified about how severe the ball shrinkage may be. If it shrinks a lot, i would genuinely kill myself>>43688812Can i just starvemaxx on hrt to prevent that?
>>43688712Not estrogen per se (I like and expected pretty much all the effects, or at least didn't mind them), but rather the discontinuation - I ran out temporarily and I'm surprised by how often I get hard for no reason and how uncomfortable it is (often it hurts a bit too, like my dick has become too weak to get that hard). Maybe it's normal and I just forgot? I mean like getting hard every morning and then 3 or 4 times a day, for no reason (on HRT I still could get hard, but only if I had good reason to, actually one of my favourite things about HRT). It's like back to being a teenager in that regard and it sucks, it's just really annoying. Surely it's just rebound testosterone and not something that cis guys have to deal with all the time? Anyways, I hope I get some more estradiol soon, I can't stand it. Also, I had been on cypro for a few years, which I really liked, but it raised my prolactin levels a lot and made me lactate sometimes, so I stopped (mostly because of the risk of brain cancer thing tho, rather than that).>For me it was the crying.I like that, I think it's healthy. Without HRT I feel like my body is supressing my emotions in an unhealthy way.>Hard Mode: don't mention tits.Actually, I thought tits would be much bigger of a problem (they were the only HRT effect I was afraid of and why I initially took tamoxi), but they're not, maybe I'm just lucky? Like, sure, it's a bit different than a cis male chest, but not by much, it's quite subtle. Just a tiny bit bigger and pointier. And it actually went back a lot when I stopped.
>>43688712rls, skin problems, sleep problems, no motivation, depression, reverse dysphoria, hundreds of hours navigating the medical system, more shy/self-aware, no libido, no attraction to anyone, no boobs, heart issues, vision issues, dizzyness, not caring anymore
>>43700170>vision issueswhat were yours? my vision has been getting worse
I was browsing this board due to my thoughts of going on HRT as a twink. This thread has been kind of useful for me OP. I'm still debating it of course, but I know I don't want to age and be ugly. After all, What person wants to die ugly? I see that many people in this thread are discussing their loss of a sex drive, is there some way to prevent this? I enjoy the sex drive that I have now, so I would prefer not to lose it.
>>43688712hair getting lighterfeet getting smallerbody odor changing so much sense of smell getting strongerskin much softer
>>43702018once you lose it you wont miss it
>>43702052>feet getting smallerwhat
>>43696706>appealFighting so hard against the pull of "worthless" emotions, trying hard to be an unaffected stoic. But now that he's become your girlfriend, all those emotions have become so powerful that he becomes a soft and cute puddle in your arms.He's trying to fight against it, and losing. It paints him as a little pathetic, but oh so cute for it. To be protected.
>>43702226nta, but my feet got about 2 sizes smaller within the first year
>>43703743larp
>>43698587God I hope you realize how cute and hot that is, I would go fucking feral if I realized my cute shy trans girl friend was getting hard when we hung out because she had a lil crush on me
>>43707598You'd probably find it more off-putting than appealing.
>>43689486>No, I used to be stoic and manly>Jumpcut to anon riding a dog dildo shouting "KNOT THIS PUSSY" >Jumpcut to them getting estrogen for the first time
>>43708937Kino
>>43708937preeeeetty much me.>stoic and manly out of false self preservation>buy first dragon dildo (Seadragon)>ff a "few" years, learned to accept myself>more openly bi>ff half a year, now on hrtSlippery slope from all that lube leaking from my ass.
>>43699676>Can i just starvemaxx on hrt to prevent that?i dont think so, my best friend who takes hrt is rail thin everywhere besides the little belly. maybe its possible for some people but if its not possible for her its gotta be difficult
>>43707598pornbrained moids will say this only after they headcanon you as some demure passing trans woman because they wouldn’t be able to stomach the reality of weird awkward androgynous males. fellow hrtwinks do NOT fall for this psyop
>>43698587>wish i could perma kill my dicksrs is an optionlong term much healthier than cyprot. postop femboy
>>43709340My schizo conspiracy theory is that all that cypro hate is manufactured by AGP rapehons who are looking for an excuse not to take the medication which would not only make them less masculine, but also cure their terminal porn brainrot.
>>43709184>>43708937I trooned and then became stoic. before that I was a flamer
>>43688712post some pics honey
>>43688712Being she/he'd everyday
>>43688712It actually feminizing my mind obviously a lot of it is subconscious, so hard to articulate, but the way I percieve people, handle social situations, even the way I speak changed. I think things I am visually, and stylistically drawn to are different, more extroverted, and way more libtarded (open-minded).
>>43691787>enforcing gender norms>enforcing gender normskys you retarded brain-raped puppet.
>>43691787Twinks can watch podcastsClearly he's just a proper Roman twink, made to serve Caesar
>>43709396anon you are responding tocypro has fucked up side effects, unfortunately. that's not agp rapehons' bsas for porn brainrot... idk. I'm still high sex drive even after srs.
>>43710477cypro side effects are way better than Spiro. Only lupron is better. Also cypro stacks so you can get down to like sub 10mg after a while
>>43709340"post op femboy" will never not be funny. you go girl
>>43710635>girlmaybe when i get much older i'll be able to actually womanmode. maybe. but it'd be a larp still. i'm way too masculine in my mind no matter how feminine i look and how feminine my sexuality is.
>>43710726Happens :c , but you don't have to Id as anything anyway, just do your thing
>>43710726i transitioned socially, name change and legal sex change and all, but i low key feel the same. im living as a woman and afaik people at school dont know im a tranny, but inside i really dont feel like a woman at all. i like looking like one but i dont authentically feel like i am one. i wish i was one but i dont feel like i am.so ironically really im just a girlmoding hrt femboy if im honest. but i get gender dysphoria from being called a man so i have to live as a woman even though it feels like larping. i guess if i got to choose, my culture would have a third gender, one reserved for effeminate castrated girl-boy boobtwinks, and id be in that rather than woman or man.
>>43710811bro turned into a pooner lmaooo
Can any hrtwinks tell me how bad the dick and ball shrinking is? Does jerking off actually prevent dick shrinkage entirely or is that just cope? Is there any way to prevent my balls from shrinking too?
>>43688712lower stress tolerance. I used to leave my college work until the last moment before hrt. the stress would make me ascend intellectually and I'd just enter this crazy flow state where I'd take down several weeks of study and coursework in like 10 hours (this was before chatgpt was really a thing). on hrt stress kind of seems to breaks me now unfortunately, and my productivity and performance falls off a cliff.
>>43711031huh?? :Di dont have a pussy>>43711114i mean im a girlmoding "twink" but jorking it does keep it the same size. at least if mine has shrunk, its by very little. it looks slightly smaller to me but ive measured it and get the same result as i used to, maybe a few millimeters gone at most. balls have gotten a bit smaller but mine were already bizarrely small so someone else could enlighten on that more.why are you so worried about your balls anyway? youre gonna take female hormones, its not like theyre gonna be useful
>>43710811>but i get gender dysphoria from being called a mansorry to hear that. i don't. that's why i didn't bother with the social transition (also less need for ffs). im also still relatively flatchested (mom and grandma have small tits) so i can "girl" mode and "boy" mode pretty much at will. weak(er) puberty also helped with the voice>third genderoh yes <3I'd unironically be legally Mx Femboy or w/e if it were possible. but it's not so i go by femfag. i do make no secret of the fact that i'm queer because i do wear skirts and some sort-of-dresses in the summer because fuck it, it's too hot outside.also, i do feel that i'd restrict myself if i'd identify as a woman "full time". ig our societies are simply not ready for people like us.
>>43711407Ah, sorry, mb, I got lost in the reply chain and thought you were >>43709340 (post-op 'femboy'), now I see you just replied to them
>>43711435>sorry to hear that. i don't. that's why i didn't bother with the social transition (also less need for ffs). im also still relatively flatchested (mom and grandma have small tits) so i can "girl" mode and "boy" mode pretty much at willthats honestly so based. if it didnt give me dysphoria i would detransition socially and just be a real life anime trap femboy. i think about this quite often. id be such a good looking boy too, instead of the mid woman im now, and my life would be so much less stressfull not having to worry about passing or dysphoria spirals. alas, god hates me and is punishing me with this so girlmoding it is.>ig our societies are simply not ready for people like usreal, and the sad thing is they WERE in the past but that was taken from us. weird genderqueer third-gender fags have always existed and there was a place for them in history, but for the last 2000 years or so, that kind of thing has been annihilated from culture by abrahamic religions...
>>43711407>why are you so worried about your balls anyway?Because balls are one of the most attractive parts of the male body. If i ended up with tiny little nuts, i would be forever ashamed of how my body looks
reminder that every hrtwink eventually becomes a woman
>>43711558Meanwhile I'm hoping my balls and pp shrink from it.
>>43711114jerking off will not stopp it from shrinking. im an hrtwink on estrogen for like 6 years and my dick is less than half of the size it was when i started and i jerked off every day. dont bwlieve the lies
>>43711566i wish, but no>>43711614yeah, same. I wish i had >>43709340 's balls (and money)
>>43711614nta: stop jerking off, avoid erections, masturbate with vibrators (or anal only) and stay on tranny dosage. all of these do helpt. "lost" 4cm in ~5 years
>>43711566reminder that you are not the main character, the world does not revolve around you, and not everyone is the same as you. Just because you became a woman doesnt mean every hrtwink will. hope this helps!
>>43711718Haven't been fully hard in probably months, because I kind of keep it tucked and focus on other areas, so I don't know if they changed yet, but on some days it feels like they got a tiny bit smaller.Love anal, but due to fucky digestion and sharing a flat, I wasn't able to play a lot these past two years.Nipple play has been a lot of fun since I focused on it more for about a year and it started to be even more fun on hrt. God I love how puffy they are now. Much more fun than just jerking it.
>>43711614good for you, but ill never be able to understand why anyone would want to shrink something as beautiful as balls.>>43711628Really or is this just fucking with me?
>>43689486i diden't get that, i think your just a pussy
>>43711558i mean yeah cock and balls are hot, but youre a fucking hrt twink youre barely even male, no one expects you to have big balls and theyre still cute when theyre small. i say stop worrying about it and leave the big dick energy to the tops
>>43712259mine is so weird its hard to look at
>>43691787>Mention marcus aurelius>must be pod person, nobody else talks about roman emperorsjust cause you're right doesn't make it okay that you bring it up
>>43712214im not fucking with you, i went from almost 7 inches to just over 3 and i never lost erectile function or stopped jerking it, i heard you can maintain length with t-gel applied directly to the dixk but its a little late for me so i cant exactly try it out myself
>>43688712muscle loss and especially the bladder issues don't get mentioned enough. my panties are getting absolutely destroyed because i keep leaking piss. at the start i found it kinda hot but it got old real fast. it's just disgusting now.
>>43712259I am a top (unfortunately). Ill never understand why people find a tiny cock and balls cute, whenever i see any it just makes me feel pity.Ive never been able to mentally associate having a big dick or balls with having masculine dominant energy. I just like them because i find them visually appealing. And I want my body to be visually appealing to me.
>>43711679There's been posts of HRTtwinks and manmoders talking about being perceived as trannies after a decade on E
>>43712349Wtf is the bladder issue? Happens to me too
>>43712357>a big dick top hrt twinkoh my fucking god can you just plap me alreadywhy can i not find someone like this irl>>43712349>>43712483yeah happens to me too and my tranny friends, its true they dont warn you about it
>>43712515Do you know what causes it?
>>43712214I don't like how they push my dick up and out, usually giving my pants a slight bulge of which I'm very conscious of for some reason. And I lost count of how often my dick touched (semi-)public toilets by accident. Disgusting as fuck and one of the reasons I almost always carry disinfectant.A big package makes running or jumping rather annoying as well.I don't hate my balls in general, I just want them to be small and cute (same for my dick). Not like I'm gonna use them anyways.
>>43712529no and probably no one does because the medical field is busy debating whether we should even get care at all, rather than researching our care.
>>43712483>>43712529I'm not way too sure but i think it's just from pelvic floor muscles getting weaker. Doing kegels would probably help but i'm too lazy and depressed for that so i'll just keep pissing myself.
>>43712573Just wear diapers or pullups, depending on amout you leak. Or put a pad in your panties.
>>43712590Good try I won't wear diapers
>>43712626Pads it is for you then.
>>43712590It's not an absurd amount i guess but the underwear gets pretty stained after a couple of days. I wouldn't even mind diapers or pads too much but it seems a little unnecessary to spend money on them.
I am throbbing rock-hard reading the last ten or so messagesyou girls always talk like this?
>>43712700I am a man!!!!!!!!!
>>43712483>>43712515Never had that, are you people on spiro? Spiro is a diuretic, its main use in medicine is actually to make people piss more. Anti-androgenic properties are just an useful side-effect which allow for off-label use as feminising HRT.
Does estrogen really lower libido?
>>43712744I'm on cypro>>43712747It's the lack of T rather than estrogem but yeah lowers it a lot.
>>43712660Change your underwear more often then. You don't wanna smell like piss and stuff, I'd guess.Pads should be dirt cheap compared to diapers and suffice if you just dribble a tiny bit.Don't wanna shill diapers too much, or the screaming starts.
>>43712754Why would people subjecated themselves to estrogen if they lose their sexual desire (asking as a gay man)
>>43712744I'm on bica
>>43712768better to be sexless and pretty than horny and ugly
>>43697995>>43699676Im already 17 bmi and by the time I get my stomach lean my face looks too gaunt
>>43712768To fight porn addiction lol
>>43712779Looking pretty for who? Men? Women?
>>43712768The other effects are worth it
>>43688712How emotional I get from people even being mean to me I just wanna cry. I was never this much a little bitch boy. Even when I recently broke my ankle I didn’t cry but when this guy at work was slightly mean to me I was about to break down
>>43712765I might actually consider pads then.>>43712768I mean it's not really a downside for me. Being horny 24/7 kinda sucks. I feel way better now.
>>43712805For me, who happens to prefer an androgynous appearance. I don't care if other people are attracted to it or not so long as I like how I look. Yeah I know I'll age out of it eventually but even so, I'd like to look good for most of my life, which is very doable.
>>43712809What are they?
>>43712349>>43712483>>43712590>>43712573I got the bladder issue too since i have weak pelvic floor muscles. But ive never had it let piss leak in my underwear. I just take a few minutes in the bathroom after pissing to let it all out. I think you all might just have a piss kink.
>>43712819Do you enjoy sex? How often do you participate in sexual activities per week (sex/fapping)
>>43712768Why would losing sexual desire be a bad thing?(For most people it's not like it's going to turn you into a complete asexual, just make you less horny. That's a good thing for me, I don't like getting horny for no reason, it's dumb and annoying.)
>>43712768I didnt lose my sexual desire
>>43712832I semi-regularly have sex (like maybe once every few months, hooking up is a bitch because im introverted) and jerk off every one or two days. I enjoy it in the moment but I'm not driven to do it. I do it mostly so my dick keeps working. Same with sex, its just fun so why not? But its not like a primal urge or anything.
>>43712828I do actually have a piss fetish but it's unrelated. I couldn't spend a few minutes in the bathroom every time i went for a piss. Maybe it's my adhd or i'm just lazy idk.
>>43712828I do the same in the toilet, but sometimes it leaks when I laugh a lot
>>43712821Looking pretty, not balding or masculinizating more
>>43712773>>43712754Huh, interesting. Maybe I don't have this problem because I've always had strong bladder control. Think I trained myself to do that early on because I found school toilets to be gross and so I always held it until I got home.
>>43712828I don't have a piss kink.Just started to get a weak(er) bladder... due to reasons unrelated to hrt.