Just once I’d like a transphobe to be like “I want society to be organized such that it is as difficult as possible for trans people to participate in public life or transition or even just survive in the first place for no reason other than because I think they are disgusting”. But nah they always have to come up with some reason why it’s actually good to strip people who take cross-sex hormones of their rights and freedoms. It’s all so tiresome.
>>43690755it's only hard to figure out because psychiatry is dogshit and therefor noone has access to education regarding this, it's the same thought process bullies have. it would be wholly pointless for them to be transphobic without finding a way to be morally superior in doing so. all antisocial personalities and behavior patterns (which includes transphobia) bear heavy amounts of guilt and remorse for their actions. it's just that they can often avoid it by continuing to engage in those actions.they don't actually believe these things, they lack identity or anything that constitutes a real belief. they don't truly see trans people as disgusting. they bore emotions before this that led to them craving an object of disgust and hatred to project their emotions onto.
>>43690849Some of this is insightful, I think, but I disagree that transphobes “don't truly see trans people as disgusting”. Just look at the way that they talk about and visually portray trans people. Come on.
>>43690755I want society to be organized such that it is as difficult as possible for trans people to participate in public life or transition or even just survive in the first place for no reason other than because I think they are disgusting.
>>43692039Somehow it’s not remotely satisfying when you use my exact words to do it or when you do it for no reason other than because I’ve expressed my desire that some one do it
>>43692039>>43692073I should’ve specified that I’d like some one to do what I’ve described spontaneously, on their own initiative. But of course no one will ever do this because, as >>43690849 points out, feeling morally superior to trannies is inherently part of the appeal of transphobia. SighGreat discussion, everyone.
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>>43692166The better version
>>43690933Their disgust is an emotional projection, it's real, but it's not directed at us because we're trans, it's directed at us because we're an easy target.
>>43692192No, it is directed at you because you are uncanny looking and disturbing to normal people
>>43692166>>43692188In actuality, trans women look like this.
>>43692228Yeah the ones with the money to buy a new face and body and under ~25 years old with a underweight BMI sure
>>43692192Yeah, I can agree with that. Trans people themselves aren’t the cause of their disgust; the cause is something to do with how their brains work.And it will always be like this as long as human beings are human beings. We will always want a scapegoat and we will always find one. Human beings are a pitiful species.https://www.existentialcomics.com/comic/377>>43692205No, this is a post hoc rationalization of the prejudice that you already felt towards trans women. Trans women themselves aren’t the cause of the prejudice that you feel towards them; the actual cause is something to do with how your brain works, anti-trans propaganda you’ve seen online, or a combination of these.
>>43690755they’re just sadists who hate us for not being normoids, there is no real philosophy behind it
>>43692205>normal people Thank you for proving my point. There are no normal people. "Normal" is a concept to describe an average that gets abused in social context to create an ingroup and outgroup. Cattle like you seek the security of being normal and affirm their belonging to the herd by reinforcing their disdain for the other. Your disgust is a projection of your fear of being excluded from the herd.
>>43692242Yes, this is precisely my point.
>>43692166>>43692188This image does not depict a woman—trans or not—it depicts a man. The term “trans woman” does not refer to an individual who looks like this.
This comic is so fucking stupid, too focused on a strawman to look into history.Caesar bragged about killing Gauls because that’s what got you political power in Rome. They were scared of barbarians doing the same to Rome which Rome had done to countless others. Might made right, and they were the mightiest until they were not.
the that strikes me about transphobes is how genuinely stupid they are. I used to know the racism community and even they are smarter and capable of coming up with coherent theories of the world than the tranny hater community
>>43692654Yeah, at least racists are interested in, like, history, anthropology, statistics, stuff like that. Whereas transphobes, by and large, are by far the most incurious people I’ve ever encountered
>>43692654i think it has something to do with the fact that most people who like to focus on the tranny issue grew up "center left", but they are fundamentally too weak and bitchpilled to internalize anything beyond some hippie garbage about recycling they were unable to comprehend something new like trannies and maybe consider themselves "centrist" because they broke with the new left on that They brigade against trannies because they don't actually believe any of the other stuff hardcore truchuds who have more to worry about than trannies
>>43692675this is why you get all the fake compassion and bizarre compromise offers (that actually just make trannie's lives worse), they were born late enough be told that being gay is OK while a truchud is just going to tell us to all stop being fags or get lynched and doesn't really distinguish between letters of the lgbt
>>43690755tbf he's kinda right about the bongs. fascinating species those ones, almost human in a way
>>43692237lol this is the kind of cope that goes with terfs wanting to prevent not-late transitioners
>>43693412This comic is about Julius Caesar’s invasions of Britain, at which time Britain was inhabited by Celtic peoples. The English didn’t exist yet
>>43693633im sorry bong anon idrc about various bong subtypes, you swampy lot at least have funny sounding dialects of american
>>43690755First of all, the term "transphobe" is inaccurate since it implies hatred that doesn't always exist. A lot of people who are "transphobes" just think trans people are mistaken about gender.>Just once I’d like a transphobe to be like “I want society to be organized such that it is as difficult as possible for trans people to participate in public life or transition or even just survive in the first place for no reason other than because I think they are disgusting”You want them to be hateful so you can hate them without moral complications.>But nah they always have to come up with some reason why it’s actually good to strip people who take cross-sex hormones of their rights and freedoms. You mean their rights to possessing steroids? Not even body builders can just get those. It's not different. Further, how are trans people's rights infringed beyond what everyone else experiences, looking at this from a transphobe perspective that presumes one's assigned gender is accurate?Further, a lot of it is because of misandry. They take issue with trans women, not trans men. They take issue with gays, not lesbians. The argument is "what is a woman" not what is a man. And both sides of the political spectrum work in tandem to ensure the whole picture is never revealed. Conservatives want to say that feminine men are bad because they're feminine and men. Feminists want to say that feminine men are bad because they're men. When a trans woman insists herself, it makes problems, since to the conservatives she'd be fine if only she wasn't male(hence all the rightwingers liking tranny porn), and to the feminist, she's an expense to women since she still has her weapon and is in the woman's bathroom and shit.Basically one side wants to hate the gays, and the other side wants to hate the men. Trannies complicate both things, so there's a lot of seethe around them.
>>43693769Why don’t you go ahead and explain to me why you are so certain that I am British, even though I have never stated or implied—even in the obscurest way—that I am British?
I mean its pretty simple right. They're just conservatives conserving whats perceived as a traditional value. Distaste for gays and troonies.Everything else is just kinda built on top of that to justify political warfare. Same with trannies. Basic reason is "I've got a brain defect that makes me want to be seen as a woman and i wish people indulge me.for the sake of my mental health and the comfort of life. I believe this would come at no cost to the moral fabric of society.". And from there you.get weird silly offshoots like transhumanism and post-hetero paradigm and cisphobia and hsts-agp purity wars and intellectual brow-beating about erm ackhually the transphobes only know of elementary school level of biology because one in a million people may have fucked chromosomes and be intersex so.ackvhually.there is no such thing as a woman which means i am one soo
>>43693879It's mad innit
>>43693903Dammit i hate how true this is. If I see one more retarded ally clumsily and smugly defend muh heckin trans rights with intersex people as if they're remotely the same thing, I will kill myself
>>43693999I am not British. I will never be British, no matter how strenuously you insist that I am.
>>43693803>steroids"M-muh kick ball!!!" The laws around that are absurd and governments recognize that (which is why penalizing almost never happens) Your entire argument lays on denying reality (EHRC guidance banning all ftms from all restrooms) and retarded projection
>>43694013>>43693903>I am a retarded troglodyte and don't know XXYs happen twice as much as trannies
>>43694162Clinically diagnosed trannies(ehat you have stats on) are the minority.Intetsex conditions are disabilities and not the same as transgenders
Nobody hates trannies like that. People just think (and tell you) YWNBA + you're weird + leave the kids alone. Anything more than that is just a figment of your imagination.
>>43695851>Blatant denial of current events
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>>43690933i think you're misunderstanding the way trans people are caricatured and whytransphobes draw trans women as hypermasculine: beard stubble/shadow, MPB, huge shoulders, ridiculous jaws etc., while the same artists will draw generic cis men without those features. they tend towards being gigachad in a dress (except that sometimes they're fat). this is because the people drawing the caricatures expect trans women to find those traits disgusting, not because they're representative of actual trans women or because the artists themselves find them disgusting. we know they don't find gigachad disgusting.
>>43690755i want men to be free to act feminine while identifying as men>ack that's transphobic take your pills alice!!!!!!that's why i hate trannies
>>43697556You hate trannies because of a situation that exists exclusively in your imagination, got it.
>>43697568Trans grooming is real thoughIt's not a mass scale system, mostly a bunch of dumb discord trannies but they do exist
>>43697581Im getting groomed by them
>>43693879lemme check what i shitposted a few hours ago (got sucked into watching the entirety of tadc for the first time)oh yeah i was just shitposting about the bongs, none of this is serious
>>43697768just ftr i posted "cismoid stop repping" as a meme twice at you today, and i'm a cishet shitter. assuming you don't have actual gd. if you do, pls get help
>>43699778I dont but i have ab abstract desire to look cute and hrt would probably improve my comfort of life
lol it's another "trannies think they're on the right side of the bell curve but are actually in the middle" thread
>>43700065neco ark posters are on the left side without exception
>>43692237She's definitely not underweight.
