Is there ANY way tranny optics can be fixed?? are we just fucked? Will we ever be seen as equal?
>>43692481what like you want them to install night vision or?
>>43692481No; normies will always hate trannies because it is in their nature to hate non-normies. >>43692241I think that the noble thing would be for the entire human race to voluntary stop reproducing. Unfortunately, this will never happen.
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>>43692481Why are you so obsessed about how you're seen by others? Looks like everything is about this. You can never be equal or whatever to any other person who don't care so much about that 24/7. Let's start by realizing this fact...
>>43692481Optics for... What?
>>43692481life is hard being a black tailed pikachu in a mandela effected world
>muh opticsWhen have people ever liked us in modern history?We were killed 100 years ago for putting on a dress. Even at the apex of trans support ten years ago that was mostly just due to a small group of people legislating our protections, leading to massive controversy and awareness, making everyone in the country realize they hate us. It wasn't from optics, our existence goes against the social values the western world is built off of.
Optics are psyops, so no.It's incredibly easy to distort people's perception of "the narrative".People can talk but they really are about as intelligent as dogs and don't do much actual independent thought. As much as they can they shortcut it to tone of voice and association. If you say a name with a sneer in your voice, that's a bad guy! If you agree with a bad guy, you're a bad guy!There is no way around the fact that people are simple, dumb animals. The best you can do is not care, or care just enough to dodge a tsunami of bullshit as it passes by.
>>43692481make some perfectly cis passing tranny famous and have her talk about trans issued
>>43693884We've had those several times, didn't do shit.
>>43692481Tranny optics nosedived when it was declared the next civil right frontier after Gay Marriage.
Yes, it can but not completely. Some people will always irrationally hate us.The following would help. 1. Admit Gender Dysphoria is a mental illness, HRT is the treatment2. We aren't trying to change our sex because changing your sex is impossible, we are trying to become more comfortable in our bodies That's basically it.
>>43693895Oh yeah I forgot dump child transitioning completely. Children can't decide if they can transition or not.
>>43693900you SORT OF had it but you lost it. dumbass.
>>43693890no we didint all the ones similar to that were giants and had alot of clocky traits
>>43693900And the very next step will be for transphobes to declare that since GD is a mental illness, adult trannies also can't decide if they can transition or not.You will never be "one of the good ones."
>>43693922I mean you can try to lie about it not being a mental illness but it's so obviously IS a mental illness that this strategy is always going to whip back in your face over and over.
>>43693895Not a mental illness according to the DSM-5, nor should it be imo. You can still have HRT be a treatment for it as a condition though
>>43692481Yes>Only let HSTS that can pass to transition>Ban SRS>Trans women should only be attracted to men>No drag queen story hour or anything that will groom children into transgenderism>No more drag queens >Transwomen must stop being chaserphobic
>>43693956Schizos in many countries are forcibly injected with antipsychotics. Imagine if trannies were treated the same, literally force fem reality. You don't want this?
>>43694034meant to respond to>>43693922
>>43694034>>43694043I don't believe in the nanny state. Politicians aren't qualified to be making medical decisions, especially for (alleged) mental illnesses.
>>43694012Forgot>No more polycules>Total Hon Death
>>43693922you trans niggas are more worried about kids genitals than donald trump.
>>43694009You're confusing the DSM-5 with the ICD-11.
>>43692509All trannys must be equipped with the latest in night vision capabilities only gen 4 night vision optics will be permitted we will be everything
>>43694075But polycules are the natural form of transbian relationships…
>>43694231Notice how literally no one in the thread suggested or even implied that children should be allowed to get SRS, yet (you) immediately started thinking about children's genitals.Nice self-report, ya nonce.
>>43694236No? They don't call it an illness in the DSM-5. The ICD-11 calls it Gender Incongruence
>>43692481>>43694363You're really good at sentences, but fail to notice the topic of discussion.All you have to do is reply with a scientific method for transitioning back and forth, and your problems would be solved.STOP AND THINK
>>43694012This + outlaw AFAB transitions
>>43694780yes afabs cant be trusted with anything
How to protect yourself if someone drops an optics nuke near you?
>>43692481Fixing things amounts to ceasing the charade that "trans" is an innate state. That's the root of the trouble. Pull back from that idea and classify it as a lifestyle choice and we can find common ground.
>>43695581It is innate thoughbeit. Sure the choice to transition or rep is a choice but.
>>43693842This desu.
>>43693842coperald
>>43692481We have no meaningful way to disavow and remove members from our own community, and basically anyone can simply "identify" as us. We'd have a shot at decent optics if you had to be on a serious dose of HRT at minimum to be seen as trans, but we've already been so overrun with opticsnuke theyfabs, non-medical rapehons, and culture warriors that we are outnumbered in our own community. If you try to reclaim "transsexual" people chimp out. So no, our optics can't be fixed, our fate is tied to wokism, forever.
>>43695638Trans militarism is the only way to get liberation desu. Just make yourself such a scary minority that nobody fucks with you.Saying that the decline of trans rights had anything to do with fufu bullshit like>Muh fee fees and wokeismRather than basic human psychology is retarded. Those fee fees come from a place and its not hust muh politics.Optics always were and always will be a complete non starter.GOD I wish I could still legally own a gun. I gotta sue the state to get that right back, I was supposed to inherit a massive stockpile of them.
>>43695709How's the weather in Langley today, glownigger?
>>43695598Yeah, it's not innate though. It's culturally bound, "trans" doesn't exist any where or when than here and now. It's the medicalization of gender nonconformity.
>>43695739Not great desu. My brain feels fuzzy and weird and I know its because I havent gotten enough sleep this morning and that I probably shouldn't be posting when I dont get enough sleep because brain but also like I work nights and I cant convince my stupid hon brain to go back to sleep because its sunny out.So Ig the weather is nice. Not a cloud in the sky.
>>43695750>"trans" doesn't exist any where or when than here and now.Modern hormone treatment didn't exist but people doing everything they could to present as the other sex has existed since ancient times.
>>43695801>Liquefied Asbestos Legalize it!
>>43694012>Ban SRS>No more drag queensbut you outlawed non-drag queens? dumb gay man
>>43695839YEESSSSS
>>43692481Admit to the world at large that you're still the sex you were born as in actual, physical reality, but go about your normal business otherwise.The false claims you all make are the reason the world rejects you. It's not about being deviant or being GNC, it's about being liars who demand the rest of the world lies too for the sake of your egos. If MtFs stopped going into women's changing rooms and joining female sports teams, there would be nothing for normies to complain about.I'm sure this will fall on deaf ears and you'll say I'm transphobic or whatever the fuck, but it's the truth. You're just part of a body modification subculture, and there's nothing wrong with that.
>>43695894I'm one of the few that do say I'm still male (prettier though) but no one cares when I use the women's bathroom on a rare occasion cuz I look like a girl and I piss sitting down ¯\_(ツ)_/¯I've even had conversations with my cis girl friends in there without a passing voice at all and it had been no problemThe bathroom thing is all blown up I think it’s dumb, but I don't really demand people get it correct every time, just that they call me by my name
>>43695828Eh, I mean crazy people have always existed and they do crazy things, yes. Enabling crazy people is new.
>>43695828And they were delusional and wrong then too.
>>43692481the optics 'nukes' are not as scary as they seem. the only people as tuned into it as us are the bigots, and even they let it all blur into the same 2 minutes hate style sludge as every other group of people they hate. if the government were to come out in support of trans people in the same way they did for gay and bi rights, it'll fade out of the limelight pretty immediately. the pressure against us only exists as a way to motivate right wing voting base and once it's off the table, the pressure will dissipate
>>43692481>Is there ANY way tranny optics can be fixed?My personal schizo theory is the only way to do it would be through small town, rural radio, and adopting common sense, science backed *DEFINITIONS*. People hate trannies because they're not used to them, and if some brave soul thinks to themselves 'let me try to understand them better' and then go do a search on google and are blindsided by the absolute clusterfuck confusion of sex identity, gender identity, the definitions not being the same, some people claiming they are the same, others saying it's a medical disorder, others saying gender is a lie (and therefore sex is a lie too), it one shots them and the echo chamber of tranny hate is sealed. America also just only believes what they hear. If you live in bumfuck nowhere and only have one radio channel to listen to and the entire thing is owned by Rupert Murdoc, you're only going to have those opinions as you listen to the radio on your hour long commute to work.But if there was a second radio channel out there, just having that exposure all of a sudden changes the dynamic, and the seeds for nuanced opinions are planted. You only got two radio channels and one is playing a song you can't stand, you'll listen to the tranny station.And the big thing is making definitions that you can all fucking agree on. Separate gender from sex ffs, you're never going to win the biological sex argument. It's literal, actual bait for you to take and you idiots have been taking it for *years*All you have to say is:- Transgender is a biological disorder- You are born with it and there is no cure, only hormonal therapy can help alleviate it- You understand that hormones will not change your sex but your gender is different to your sexThats it.Idfk what to do about trans children though. Even gay youth are disowned by their family, making it a crime of neglect somewhere as individualistic as America is always going to be a losing game, even if it isn't right.
>>43695750>”there’s no water in Mexico, they only have agua”
>>43697287>Separate gender from sex>hormones will not change your sex but your gender is different to your sexso the same woketarded gender ideology that got us into this mess, great idea.
>>43692481americans elected an obvious pedophile and many even still defend him yet people still talk about "optics". the problem with optics is that being trans is inherently transgressive of the liberal order, and by this i do not mean the subversivism of gender, but rather the movement outside of physiological homeostasis that can be gleaned from the very act of physical transition. when people repeat the same old optics politics, they forget all the people who were in utter disgust at that diy orchi poster, at the obsession of many with trans derangement with srs being an "axe wound". these are events that go beyond mere gender ontology and politics, entering into the biopolitical and the inherent terror that is transition in its mutilation of the organism's flesh and a disruption of its natural unity. we of course see in many queer theorists a similar disgust of the transsexual, labeling us as having internalized transphobia or somehow affirming the gender binary, and physical transition is seen as a perverse aberration that is completely external to the concerns of gender insofar as gender is of course a social construct. and i would indeed concur with the subversivist only to move in the opposite political direction: transsexuality does not simply concern gender as such; it is primarily an interplay of a particular libidinal orientation and its manifestation in an orientation towards physical existence. and it is in this orientation, a heterological attachment to life, whereby the bourgeois liberal order's attachment to bodily integrity and even "human rights" are on a final analysis, put into question
>>43700403following sorel then, transsexual existence IS violence, a mythical biaphany embodied in the very act of physical transition, and so it is only natural that it itself attracts violence. this has differential manifestation according to the reacting individuals will-to-power. the white conservative, with his identification with the state, cheers on mounting state suppression as a means of at last stamping out this perceived disease. the white "progressive", with her identification with institutions, would prefer to make access to hrt caught up in particular medical apparatuses in order to ensure "the right procedures" are met. the black male, in not identifying with the force of the state or the transcendent posturing of bourgeois institutions, instead manifests this tension as an immediate individual act of violence that is manifest to the naked eye. and so transsexuals have, based upon their own will to power and peripheral identifications, placed their focus on any one of these reactive elements ultimately unable to grasp the overarching contradiction>>43695709trannies do need self-defence as many of us have been hate crimed by populations of people that have targeted us often when we have been nothing. that is not enough though. in order to prevent cases where we have been reduced to homelessness or prostitutions (conditions that make us the most susceptible to violent persecution) we also need collective economic sustainability and the ability to maintain supply lines of essential carehttps://hidwehproject.nekoweb.org/pages/zine/aspcte.html
>>43700403>libidinal orientation*libidinal economy
>>43692481>Will we ever be seen as equal?Try again in like 50 years
