Is there a single fembrained MTF on this board?I'm beginning to lose hope...
>>43692510what is fembrained to you?does it matter to be traditionally feminine or just feminine enough to be considered as fembrained? im sleepyyy dont mind me
FUCK no!!! UGH! *grunts* *farts* we're MALE trans women on this board and we don't take kindly to your FOID sort....
>>43692510what actually defines someone as "fembrained"? i never understood the term.
>>43692584they mean pure virgin from the 60s USA
>>43692601i guess im fembrained then bc im a virgin loser
It's because fembrained doesn't exist. Plenty of cis women who don't act like a walking stereotype.
>>43692648this sounds like cope kind of but i get your point, i think they meant the stereotypical though, who knows
>>43692667Nah I can't be coping because I don't have to cope, I have never fit neatly into 'traditional' gendered behavior regardless of gender so that's no problem for me. It's just how I feel about the matter.
>>43692601no>>43692521>>43692584It's difficult to define because it varies across culture, but it's a "you know it once you see it" kind of thing. MTF Trannies, both IRL and on this board, rarely seem to be interested in things that mainstream women are into. You can put that down to autism but even then they don't like typical female autistic things either. Don't even get my started on gaydens/FTMs >>43692648it obviously fucking doesHere's a thought experiment: If you took every single man and woman, put their brains into jars and and connected it up to a basic computer interface, you'd easily be able to identify the gender of each brain just from a simple conversation, assuming you had enough time to survey all of them.
>>43692687what do you want your partner to be interested in
>>43692694I'm not a chaser if that's what you mean, I'm a (malebrained) tranny myself who's dysphoric over being malebrained.I don't really care what my partner is interested in as long as it's not a topic that I find tiresome or frustrating
>>43692714stop using 4chan if you don't want to be malebrained. you're only socializing with autistic trannies on here, and you in part become who you talk to
>>43692730where else am I going to go? instagram? I won't survive there because I'm already an autistic tranny and my behaviour is socially repellent to them, as is their behaviour to me. I don't like speaking to people IRL either because my malebrained personality makes me self conscious around women, and I stopped speaking to my guy friends because I could tell they were socialising me to be even more malebrained. that's the problem with being malebrained, it's impossible to recover from short a full lifestyle intervention.
>>43692687i mean there's plenty of women doing other stuff that can be considered malebrained, i think it mainly boils down to personality out of all things as the ultimatum, habits just dont cut it enough to me i think if im thinking this brainwormed for the sake of the thread lolll, sorry my English kinda sucksss, but yeah, idk i got told for example in my case specific that im plenty fembrained on that regard, either way it's obviously the autistic hoi4 chud that will be malebrained for example or the transbian with the socialization skills of a potato due to male socialization, i like 2 of my trans friends bc i feel like they are more accord to being feminine and don't give me a slight hint of being masculine for example, as for others well I just filter them out
>>43692760you can either stop hating yourself or stop using autistic internet spaces
>>43692760If the men in question treat you like a piece of meat that only exists for their own enjoyment you'll become fembrained
>>43692780they were my pre trans friends so no they treated me like a fruity bro it was horrible
>>43692687i think it's beyond pointless to define "malebrainedness" by the interests one exhibits, especially in adult life. you can, almost always, trace such interests back to the ones a given person exhibited in childhood. patriarchal society often teaches those it perceives as "boys" to hold a distain for "feminine" interests, thus leading to a shifted set of interests exhibited in adulthood.
>>43692878>it's pointless to define malebrained as having male interests because almost all AMABs have male interestsI don't see the contradiction. I accept that the mtf malebrained situation is really just that hopeless and unfair, hence why I'm so sad.
>>43692874This is why everyone knows that women and men cannot be friends, if sex is not involved to make it weird then you're just turning each other into clones of yourself. You very likely cracked an egg or two yourself.>>43692878This is not really true, across pretty much all societies you can observe this distinction being innate to human beings. Even when you unnaturally force it, this does not hold out.
>>43692913my point here is moreso that "male" interests are not indicative of anything inherent about a person's psychology.
>>43692939These interests are ultimately proxies for someone underlying personality thoughConsider this: When I first started HRT I immediately started going to the gym and lifting weights as a manmoder, pre trans I loved doing cardio exercise but I wanted to do resistance training too, I was just scared to do so because of the anabolic effects of testosterone, but after starting anti-androgens, I felt that I could finally start lifting. My passion for it was more like how a typical gymbro enjoys it rather than a woman, and I'm ashamed to say that the culture rubbed off on me a bit, I was obsessed with maximising my compound lifts and I loved the "struggle" aspect of it, I really loved the feeling of exercising to exhausting every single day. I have met so few women who are obsessed with embracing "struggle", most of whom are the types who go into the military or become CEOs, they're a very stark rarity. And I've never met a single woman with the same raw impulse to want to maximise their physical strength. I really struggle to understand why I even cared for the latter, it's not like I ever became that strong objectively, I mean my squat was impressive but still I just enjoyed seeing the weight go up. I knew that 99.9% of men were still stronger than me. Point is, I was always drawn to a malebrained activity, and the ways I enjoyed it (embracing struggle + maximalist impulses) were more typical of a man than a woman. To be fair, I was still basically a repper back then, and I had barely accepted my own tranness + hated myself. After 2 years I quit because I became too muscular and being a manmoder at the gym made me feel uncomfortable. I became very distressed over being seen as a man. Now I'm at 9 years or so HRT, and I'm more fembrained now, but I still like things like ancient cultures (including Rome) because of how authoritarian and stratified they were, same goes for athletics/career stuff. I'm still obsessed with struggle and maximalism.
>>43693116>>43692939Sorry, I'm kinda ill today so I forgot to make an important pointThis struggle+maximalist impulse within me is probably so deeply ingrained and abstract, that it's a part of my core personality at this point. And yet it was almost certainly conditioned into me through my upbringing. As a young kid I was lazy, unambitious and disinterested in anything I wasn't immediately good at. My dad essentially reversed this behaviour by (quite cruelly) challenging me to me to try harder. He'd do things like walk me several miles away from our house, and tell me to cycle back in order to teach me to ride a bike. He'd shout at me when I went too slowly, and mock me if I started crying and said I wanted to give up. He also repeatedly told me that having all As didn't mean anything because I was still in school and it'd only matter if I could keep them up by the time I got into university, when I did get into university he told me that didn't matter because I didn't study medicine and chickened out by taking an easy course (computer science) instead. I'm 99.99% that this sort of upbringing has defined my personality today, and I don't doubt for a second that most MTFs were conditioned into being malebrained at their core from their upbringings alone.
>>43693236I hope your dad got his karmic punishment for that
>>43692687Hi pastebin
Outsider normal brained male here that saw this thread on the homepage.I really don't see the problem here except a bunch of confused human. We all can agree that biologically you will never be either or as long as you aren't somekinda freak of nature with no sexual organ at birth.If you have male genes XY chromosomes then you will never be able to experience what it truly means to be female. Not even in a spiritual sense if you believe in that type of mumbo-jumbo and the same goes for female to males. The sexual organ, brain and chromosomes is forming you and to never being born with a dick or vagina means that from birth you have never been a woman therefor already experienced being a male or woman from the time you formed in your mother belly.But I'll agree that males and females have feminin or male traits. If you where born male and experience everything a female experiences except the sexual organ, body structure, DNA then you will psycologially be a male with more femminen mindset but no matter what you do you will always and I mean always have a physically male experience and therefor male hormons and brain chemistry even if you take pills, cut your dick or whatever. It was set in stone as soon as your was a embryo in your mother and all I see from people like you are your spirit, body and brain trying to fight what is you and confusing itself there it literally being a "mental illness" because your brain is trying to fight your body.
the goal is to be malebrained as fuck while being a passoid you fucking retard
>>43693359retarded tourist
>>43693359Thanks for the worthless input, faggot.
the goal is to pass. not be some weird caricature of what you think a woman is and does. If someone sees me and thinks woman i have won.Youre just a boring normie if all you want is a gf who is just youre average stacy interest wise
>>43693381I hope you are happy and accept yourself. Don't hate what mother nature gave you and don't hate other for there opinions. The worst you can do is to ruin another persons life because of your own shortcomings and the people before you that have done you wrong.
>>43693398I'm OP and I'm a tranny, I physically pass but I'm dysphoric over my malebrained personality
>>43692510sorry, i'll try to be more fembrained for you. that's my fau- *burps and farts* oh my gosh i'm so sorr- *burps again* oops haha i'm so gassy. my stomach is so round and bubbly
Fembrained and malebrained are both badges of insecurity.
>>43692510I mean.. there's a few fembrained people I think, there's just like a ton of people that have autism and had male hobbies before transitioning.I don't have autism, I'm just anxious and generally absent-minded, so I look autistic, but I don't have any male hobbies really>>43693439What do you even do that makes you think you're male brained? Your thoughts or hobbies or something else??Just hang out around more women or smth
>>43693920These nuts. Literally
>>43692510you are on 4chan what do you expect?
>>43693920autism + male hobbies + thoughts yeah see >>43693116>>43693236if you care enough to read my pitiful story :( >hang out with women more I'll quote another post I wrote to explain how I feel about this >>43692760
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>>43692510Go to Crystalcafe then you'll truly know how femanons actual think and act on imagesboardsSpoiler [spoiler]it's not pretty[/spoiler]
>>43694033isn't crystalcafe just filled with trannies?
>>43694033regardless this may actaully be the best advice so far in this thread, thank you nona
>>43693968Ok, I didn't really read the thread cuz I didn't know which was you, but I read those nowFor working out, I don't know much as I've never lifted weights, but the struggle aspect aside, if you focused cardio, abs, squats and stuff like that wouldn't it be better?Rome I like it a bit, but I don't even know why nowyou can enjoy history and still be fembrained, just watch more varied content besides their goverment and stuffWatch about those little bread soup shops they had on each block for poor people or study the differences in pre-republic, republic and empire art and scilptureOther ancient cultures include studying women in general for how they were treated or mystified in ancient societiesI'm sorry your dad treated you like that, my parents got divorced so I can't relate as much but, if you know the issue and the cause of it, doesn't that make therapy or introspection easier to navigate to change? He just sounds like be belittled all your accomplishments reallyOk and then the instagram whatever, I'll be honest I really hate instagram, but I use it for dm's a bit nowIf you're depressed or bpd or anxious or smth join a mental health discord server that's usually staffed by mostly women or gay guys. Also never join lgbt spaces as it's counter-productive and makes you more male brained desutry to make friends sincerely and fake it till you make it <3just be what you think you should be until it sticks, try seeing how they talk or fit in, emoji use or like messages and think over it