>>43698773
>Nick Fuentes - people that think he is intelligent have subhuman levels of intelligence. Only double digit IQ goblinos watch him. He is intellectually unserious and catastrophically lost a debate against Dean Withers. Even conservatives were not happy with this. He's not smart, but he can mimic intelligent people. Only ugly people with no jobs watch him. He has 110 IQ, he's a smart midwit. I love his racist clips, but he's not a serious source of information.
And yet he is the only political commentator to accurately predict the Iran War

>>43698847
No lol Professor Jiang also predicted that shit, I also predicted that shit and didn't know he said that

The fact that you find that impressive shows you are a subhuman

>>43698847
Also he can't win a good faith debate with a child like 7 years younger than him. He just outright isn't smart, you *want* him to be smart because you agree with his views, or he told you what to think. You are a subhuman that will never amount to anything in life, you are an NPC, you aren't sentient.

>>43698773
Vaush is a commie dumbass.

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>>43698987
It's just typical behavior for a high IQ white man who never had a job before, look at all trannies, they're all high IQ white men who never had a job. The second Voosh graduated as a sociology major from Cal Poly (dogshit school), he knew that he was too smart to be qualified to do any real work like programming or finance. He was destined to be a podcast bro.

If we're going by whose political views I like the most, I like Destiny/Parker/Dean because they're moderate establishment Dems that agree leftism is a mental illness.

If we can pick anyone on the planet I agree with Thomas Sowell the most because I'm extremely conservative irl.

>>43698773
being a political commentator and having an IQ above 80 are mutually exclusive. they'd be writing theory if they were actually smart

>>43698773
[transsexual perspective]
they're all retards and so are you

>>43698773
hassan>candice>tucker>nick>andrew>>>destiny=vaush

>parker
>dean
>jiang
who tf

>>43699130
In intelligence? Lol, no. Hasan isn't smart. You didn't even spell his name correctly. He's the blue Nick Fuentes, he's unimpressive.

Vaush is a 110 midwit you just wanna fuck him and you don't notice when he doesn't know his shit because you're conservative

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>>43698773
>Voosh
Master debater but intellectually outpaced by desTINY
>Tiny
Terminally deranged by Trump to the point he can't even pursue his own goals other than "Right wingers bad"
>Fuentes
Funny, charismatic, but probably a fed and ultimately a pied piper
>Tucker
A liar but secure in his convictions
>Candace
A liar and a grifter obviously, got her start making some authoritarian anti-hatespeech platform before pivoting right. At best she's opportunistic at worst she's unstable
>Cenk's Nephew Hasan
Only popular because handsome, well deserved fall is imminent

Everybody else you mentioned is irrelevant, even Voosh and Tiny are irrelevant now by their own hand. desu all of them only achieve true relevancy when the mainstream deigns to promote them.

None of these people are honest btw, all of them lie to their audiences to serve their own goals. Candace and Fuentes went on vaca when SPLC got exposed for funding right wing agitators. I've witnessed all the lefties lie too. Destiny is the closest to honest imo and it's destroying him because he can't get over his unhideable hateboner for the right. Honesty is far more important than IQ for a commentator, that's why it's important to listen to a wide spread of voices and disregard the liars. But a broken clock is right twice a day and I occasionally see all of these people say an intelligent and useful thing or two.

>>43698773
>obsessed with iq
>glazes the guy who is addicted to watching horse cock porn
>but we no longer care about his personal life
>unironically spent time putting this shit together
this board fucking sucks
where is passgen when you need it
also what the fuck does this have to do with lgbt

>>43699155
hassan is sexy and confident and a chad and based and vaush looks like a goblin and goons to weird porn.
nick is more based than cause at least he’s not a psuedointellectual libtard.
vaush literally acts like a sneed weeabo

>>43699208
Look at recent vaush pics, he's more sexy than Hasan now. Hasan has a small head. Vaush is getting /fit/ and has a nice haircut.
>>43699196
This took me minutes to cook up nigga, calm down
>>43699159
Ngl I'm enjoying everything you're saying but Voosh is worth watching for entertainment
>>43699157
He knows his shit way more than Hasan at least. I like Destiny too but don't watch him much, I've seen his streams here and there. Voosh is effortlessly 125-135 IQ, I can tell based on how he strings ideas together. Destiny is comfortably smarter than all the rest. Those two are in their own league. Dean & Parker will surpass Destiny when they're 30. Vaush should stop being a faggot and run for politics.

If Hasan ran for office I'd cry from being offended.

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I'm upping his IQ score by 3 points because he is a chaser. Pariah the Doll is his ex girlfriend and he was caught in the group chats for the dollhouse tranny chat. His IQ is now 113. He would lose in a debate against everyone else in my list, but you have to recognize him for being a chaser.

>>43699276
no the actual fuck he isn’t. i don’t care if he’s fit or if he’s fat or if he’s skinny or what fucking ever he’s not attractive and his impure ugly soul and mind shines thru anything he’ll ever do and he’s literally a pedo. he’s literally just not hot and he’s poly which is like one of the most not hot things u can do
>Hasan has a small head
what the fuck does this even mean i never would have never noticed or factored in head size into attractiveness.
hassan has aura cause doesn’t hassan is actually hot and way more masculine and big frame what are u even on about vaush has leddit seed oil onions funko pop phenotype

>>43699366
He has no aura, and he's not a pedo lol. Hasan is the pedo, actually hung out with Diddy and alleged that he hopes the files don't go out. Vaush is called a pedo by Hasan's fans because he had hentai of a cartoon teen woman. I don't expect him to age verify all the hentai he has.

>>43699276
You are way too soft on Voosh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yglPbga-Jh4
I would think he's hot too if he didn't remind me of an ex
>He knows his shit way more than Hasan at least.
Yes, Hasan is retarded

>>43699366
Hasan is the most status obsessed person I've ever seen. Yes he's hotter than Vaush but he's more shallow than the worst HSTS stereotype.

>>43699366
Hasan made pedophilic comments about Miley Cyrus, said "old enough to count old enough to mount" on his "brotalk" segment on TYT, said he always knew Miley was a little slut the second she turned 18, visited brothers known for having underage girls, shocked his dog, pulled another dog by his tail which damaged his spine, attended Diddy parties, spoke highly of Diddy

"But he's on the right side of history"

>>43699456
he isn't hotter than Vaush, that's the problem. He's hotter if you're low IQ. Vaush is ubermensch, Hasan is untermensch

>>43699421
Lowkey he's just trolling and being unnecessarily annoying here, he has psychotic autistic takes or naive takes rather than stupid takes. I have to admire how much he simps for trannies.

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>>43698773
>Dumpy midget is hot and brilliant because he repeats what I want to hear back to me

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>>43699513
This is hotter than Hasan

Also didn't know he took a pic with my goat Charlie Kirkinator

>>43699409
holy shit you’re fucking retarded
>teen woman.
what the fuck is a teen woman
>I don't expect him to age verify all the hentai he has.
what is he fucking blind??
also i have no idea about hassan and diddy cus i stopped watching political streamers when i was 17

>>43699456
>most status obsessed person I've ever seen
which is unironically more human and genuine because he at least isn’t a cucked polyculetard and spiritual and archetypical ssritard like vaush

>>43699462
i didn’t know this

>>43699489
what ever the fuck this means. hasan is objectively conventionally attractive. cause is at best unconventionally attractive if ur a mentally underdeveloped manchild

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>>43699456
>>43699462
>Hasan
It's really funny how many different people have different reasons to hate this dude. Like yes, he cozied up to woke types, but they hate him for "brotip" misogyny. Also he's an obvious hypocrite with money and status, so the middle hates him. He's an avowed socialist who hates liberal individualism and fancies himself a "radicalizing force" so liberals hate him. He shocked his dog and lied about it so normies hate him. He's anti-Israel at the moment so powerful Jews hate him. And I guess the right shouldn't like a far lefty, but he's such bad optics I'm surprised Fuentes hasn't promoted him. Oh wait, Sam Hyde did lmao

Hasan is a laughingstock in need of a fall. The moment his himbo aura fades he has nothing left but an army of haters across every demographic

>>43699556
He's a rich jew born in LA and raised in Beverly Hills, and has lived in privilege his entire life. Fake socialist media creation.

>>43699562
It was a cartoon of star butterfly where she was age'd up, he's an oldhead, he doesn't watch zoomer cartoons.

Also Hasan is a real pedophile. His pedophile allegations are heinous. He visited brothels with underage girls. Didn't say he slept with underage girls, but it's heinous. He also attended diddy parties.

Among the big 3, Vaush has the cleanest slate by far.

>>43699610
How is he Jewish? Living in Beverly Hills isn't a flex, it's not that exclusive.
>>43699604
I kind of like him and hate him at the same time. His existence is funny to me because I respect his grift, but his fanbase is subhuman. We should enslave commies.

>>43699562
>>most status obsessed person I've ever seen
>which is unironically more human and genuine
His whole thing is he's a holier than thou socialist lmao
"He's human" girl he visits brothels and wears $1000 t-shirts
Man has no claim to morality and is just another yapper on the internet with a better hairline

>>43698773
>vaush 135 iq
>accidentally shows loli porn on stream
>i am the horse

incredibly malebrained thread chuddy

>>43699613
>>43699652
holy shit sorry i didn’t know the fucking communism streamer pedophile lore because i acc have shit to do w my life my bad. fuck both of them then
>wears $1000 t-shirts
which is unironically still more praxis than vaush
>with a better hairline
it’s more than that but ok.

>>43699719
it's malebrained to say malebrained
>>43699783
i just googled it big dawg
>>43699712
>>43699613

>>43699812
>i just googled it big dawg
too much effort sry

>>43699821
Yeah well I just told you Hasan is a pedophile and you're not going to change any of your viewing behavior so you're low IQ and morally repugnant to me

his fans are subhuman

>>43699853
omfg i just told u fuck both vaush and hassan then

>>43699642
His name is Polish Jewish in origin.
>Living in Beverly Hills isn't a flex, it's not that exclusive.
Die scum

Vaush and Hasan and pedophiles and I hate both of them. They're basically the Onision and Shane Dawson of political streaming.

Not only that, but the way Vaush has capitalized on trans people with daddy issues needs to be studied, it's actually incredible.

>>43699884
Nah I support Vaush and Nick because I don't support pedophiles. They're both chasers who are into adult women. Vaush has an adult gf while Nick is a closeted gamp straight man who dates trannies.
>>43699899
He's just a polish irish white guy. He has too much white DNA to be jewish, he isn't going to get any jewish benefits.

>>43699944
Cope harder

>>43699944
vaush is a pedo too tho

>>43699943
Nah. Vaush is the least predatory twitch streamer, I've never given any money to these niggers.
>Onision and Shane Dawson of political streaming
Destiny is more deserving of this title. Vaush hasn't had scandals in years.

>>43699964
how, niggers always say things but are never wiling to prove anything
>>43699954
He's jewish because he's polish? Lol you're an embarrassing subhuman.

did nick actually date pariah tho

>>43699979
you can at minimum prove he's a chaser, he's gamp

>>43700015
bottom chaser????

>>43700038
we have no way to prove if he's top or bottom, he's a complicated man, he was caught in the dollhouse group chats, said we should do a meetup with only the hot people

based on probability he's the top but you never know

>>43700061
waow. nick is based.

>>43699977
I've literally seen him in clips from early in his streaming career defending the idea of adults having sex with minors. You gotta dig for them a bit but they're out there.

He pivoted to being very performatively anti-pedophile, but between that and the loli leaks it's clearly all projection.

Chuds like him and Hasan just can't get enough of the diea of fucking underage girls because it's the ultimate fantasy; People too inexperienced to challenge their ideas OR say no

>>43700090
All left wingers support removal of aoc laws. Rich shit fundies like Vaush have no financial incentives to support left wing policies, and he's a faggot who's only lived in upper class white enclaves which means his motivation for being a leftist must come from elsewhere, and that's usually pedophilia and wanting to be able to have sex with minors without facing repercussions.

>>43699604
>He shocked his dog
why do people keep pushing this obvious lie

new ranking
nick>candice>tucker>andrew>destiny>hassan>vaush

>>43700136
Because it's not a lie

And, regardless of if he did it, it's still fucked up he made his dog sit in one spot for hours as a stream prop.

If he really wanted her present but not free roaming and didn't want to deal with the optics of a crate, he could set up a pen for her with toys, chews, or other enrichment and an actually comfortable dog bed. But no, she's gotta sit on a hard cot like an object, not even free to stand. So he's not a good dog owner regardless of if he shocked her or not.

>>43700136
1. People like dogs
2. He literally does shock his dog as a training method, he's on video saying so and there's nothing wrong with that. It's the fact that he lied about it (the prongs taped over when he shows it on later stream? so it is a shock collar ever though he said it wasn't? etc)

>>43700136
He already did something worse on video you ugly subhuman retard, he pulled his dog Fish by the tail which damages its spine

>>43700187
He's a complete phony who judges everyone on their financial status while claiming to be some variety of socialist. He's also a turkroach from a culture that doesn't value animals and frequently abuses them. The average person watching Hasan is as stupid and shallow as he is.

>>43700090
I don't know who to watch then because even Nick flirts with the idea of being a pedophile, Sneako is openly a pedophile, Tate is openly a pedophile, Hasan is openly a pedophile, Destiny got caught being a pedophile

now you're telling me Vaush defends pedophilia

Should we cancel men? I'm going to become my own political commentator.

>>43700216
His frat bros comment on twitter laughing at the idea of him being a socialist, their frat house concluded he was most likely to be a millionaire from grifting when he was 20. Socialism and communism is mental illness, it's just an aesthetic to these people.

>>43700155
Vaush belongs at least in the middle by virtue of not being a pedophile

Unfortunately there are no conservative intellectuals on the right, I lament that Nick Fuentes is too low IQ.

>>43700090
>>43700229
Voosh is absolutely a loli enjoyer and that's ok. Zoomers can't handle it, they are disturbingly puritan, but Voosh is kinda that old 4chan "do anything online" mentality with a coat of puritan woke zoomer paint over it. If you peel it back yeah, he's got folders of loli and argued in favor of it

>>43700306
I'm a woke puritan conservative zillennial zoomer. I say there's no evidence he still does this years later but that's a cope I guess. I figure I'll be my own twitch streamer and start my own thing.

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>>43700245
Socialism is an aesthetic. Muscles are an aesthetic, while he appears to have the physical prowess of an unatletic girl. A large part of this generation is just like him, hollow with zero substance.

>>43700229
>i don't know who to watch then
listen to podcasts and read philosophy and stop watching streamers because they’re brainrot

>>43700270
>Vaush
>”not being a pedo”
have u even read the thread?
also apparently nick is a pedo now too so new ranking:
candice>all of them cus all moid streamers are pedos now i guess

>>43700306
>and that's ok
ew wtf no it isn’t kys

>>43700306
>disturbingly puritan
Loli is disgusting and i wouldn't mind it if loli users were shot and killed. It's glorified child porn disguised as art.

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>>43698773
Being obsessed with politics in any manor is a sign of mental illness and a complete humiliation ritual

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>>43700270
At risk of injecting a new target into the thread, I recommend PF Jung. He's a centrist but will probably sound right wing to the majority of /tttt/, and unlike the majority of these tired commentators I get the sense he is coming from a genuine attempt to understand and move forward

>>43700229

Our society conditions us to see sex as a commodity rather than an experience, and as such cis men with enough power, wealth, and ego will do thier best to have sex with the closest approximation of children/young teens (if not the genuine article) because they're the easiest to objectify and use without consequence if you have enough shielding.

You can watch them if you want and it's truly the only medium of political engagement accessible to you, but the politics streaming game functions like a cult. Get people to listen to primarily you specfically and give you money and labor in the closest rings, and people on the outer rings might not care enough to do that but will still defend you, and then outside hate just makes it all the easier to manipulate your core followers not to think critically and believe thier dear leader is under attack all the time.
The funniest thing is some of them aren't even doing this very intentionally, in their head it's just the streaming game, but in practice it's still cult cultivation and tactics.

So watch whoever you wish, but keep this in mind.

>>43700353
Leave this website tourist

>>43700380
I'm not a tourist. Every person I've met from here that was in to loli ended up being a massive piece of shit to boot. That's not a coincidence.

>>43700334
candice>all of them cus all moid streamers are pedos now i guess

alright I agree with you now!!

>>43700360
I'm looking for a right wing guy that supports trannies lol, I'll check him out

>>43700360
He instantly fails an IQ litmus test with his low IQ conflation, treating trans people as a monolithic group. Why do you watch him?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-s2SbKH-_uE

>>43698773
>even if you're conservative, which I am
You know that Vaush currently (and correctly) thinks conservatives are barely sentient subhumans who shouldn't have the right to vote, right?

>>43700334
>>43700353
>Loli is disgusting and i wouldn't mind it if loli users were shot and killed. It's glorified child porn disguised as art.
It's still art and if you start executing people for art then the line will inevitable be moved. The only reasonable thing to do is allow it.
The whole reason to disallow child sexual abuse material (child pron) is because a real human is harmed in its production. CSAM is NEVER ok. Abusing children is NEVER ok.
But some people (Vaush) argue that attraction to children is an immutable characteristic and that artistic depictions (drawn with NO real world reference) can relieve the people cursed with this immutable characteristic without any actual harm to anyone.

So there's at least two reasons that loli is an acceptable fringe category to allow. Voosh is kinda courageous to have made the argument desu even if he is retarded

>>43700353
This, and groomers use loli to try and groom real children. It didn't get to the point of porn, but my stepdad (who, in hindsight, was almost laughably stereotypical in being an online pedophile but my poor mother had no idea bc she wasn't chronically online besides still playing a niche MUD she met him through, and I didn't know because I was a child) definitely showed us No Game No Life to try and normalize certain things.

A bunch of shit happened that I don'tneed to get into, but my theory is he was so brainrotted on loli hentai he actually thought it was possible to turn me (ftm, but before transition), my sister, and my mom into his own little incest harem. Regardless of what people may argue, the amount of people who feel enabled and emboldened to molest real children because they consume loli content is not zero.

>>43700426
Kill all pedos, no exceptions. Prepubescent children are not sexually attractive and neither are drawings of them. Get the bastards roped.

>>43700406
>>43700418
He is NOT my GOAT on trans issues.

He's right on like, everything else. And always argues in good faith somehow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JB6YgmeAr4

If you're not in on this you're falling behind, and he's put it very succinctly

>>43700421
I don't know if I agree with that, I watched him say in a clip that we should never underestimate conservatives like Charlie Kirk or assume they are stupid. If he went into that debate less prepared, he would have lost.

>thinks conservatives are barely sentient subhumans who shouldn't have the right to vote
Most are. I think the right is substantially more stupid than the left, but they may have higher social intelligence. I'm going to vote Democrat forever because the right will never bring up a serious candidate. I like establishment dems, as conservative as a dem can possibly get. My biggest issues are immigration & economics. Leftist policy is objectively destructive but I think all politicians are liars. My political views only matter if I can start my own country.

>>43700406
>alright I agree with you now!!
yay i win

>>43700426
i’m not reading all that shit
>immutable characteristic
which is why if we lived in a just world the treatment would be a bullet

>>43700426
Children can't advocate for themselves or meaningfully negotiate with the State, therefore I don't think the normal parameters of value around artistic expression and freedom of speech apply. Children do not have, systemically, the wisdom, experience, resources, or legal standing as a demographic to argue against how society depicts images of them or controls them.

>>43700460
>I like establishment dems
Yep, Vaush is right about you people kek.

>>43700436
So you are comfortable killing people based on the orientation they have no control over?

>>43700430
There are major creeps out there

>>43700446
I think the way he conveyed his stance on trans issues is so egregious, it reflects very poorly on his intelligence. The fact that he commonly clips Jordan Peterson makes me think less of him.

Check out Thomas Sowell instead lol. I'm watching PF Jung but he seems unimpressive compared to real scholar-thinkers.

>>43700473
So one can never depict a naked child, in any context? Or even a clothed child for that matter? The state is to control depictions of groups of people?

Loli is drawings, the state should not control the peoples ability to draw, period. However if it depicts a specific person, or child, with intention, that is VERY different

>>43700481
I'm a libertarian that is willing to vote republican if there is a certain candidate I like. All high IQ, educated professionals are libertarian. There's no "right about you people." People with no life experience sold you on a lie, an aesthetic. Vaush & Hasan have never had a job, lol. They would fail as policymakers, a state run by them would collapse overnight. I like Vaush's intelligence but he is naive, don't get cocky because I said I like him. Establishment Dems create the greatest good in society, the correct policy is in the moderate.

>>43700529
I see PF Jung as the descendant of Sowell and Peterson (at his 2017 best). I think he has a ways to go on trans issues desu but he approaches everything so honestly I am willing to wait to see it. desu he had a talk with NotSoErudite and I couldn't finish it, as he was so dumb on trans stuff and she was so uncharitable on the rest. She simply couldn't let a conversation resolve not in her favor and he was too nice too see when she was being unreasonable. It was pain.

>>43700488
I'm comfortable killing pedophiles. Like real ones that want to hurt children under 13. Hollywood keeps making films where the main character kills Nazis, yet they'll never make a film where the main guy hunts pedos.

>>43700613
>I'm comfortable killing pedophiles. Like real ones that want to hurt children under 13.
I think we're getting closer to agreement, as I agree that sexually abusing children deserves a high punishment.
>Hollywood keeps making films where the main character kills Nazis, yet they'll never make a film where the main guy hunts pedos.
Sure

If a person saves an image that depicts a naked anime character with underage features, does that person deserve to die, be imprisoned, or left alone? Because that's what's actually being discussed.

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>>43700446
the problem with pf jung's "dark centrism" is that it simply is not and can not be "dark" enough, as the entire premise of his political project rests on trying to wrest some transcendent archetype from the realm of flux and cattle, and hence is ultimately incapable of transcending the sham that is the liberal "political spectrum". why is this a problem? because ultimately it prevents proper insight into the fundamental premises of collective sovereignty, upon which these fleeting orientations must presuppose in order to have any practical relevance. when your government is controlled by a corrupt epsteinite deep state, and political discourse largely flows from institutional and algorithmic forces that fit mass discourse within particular delimited boundaries, then such ideological games become nothing more than navel gazing, unable to penetrate beyond the veil. the faux dark centrist of course ignores the basic lovecraftian reality of actual politics, that revolutions are not the acts of individuals but apocalyptic events ordained by the gods, that it is a given that these oligarchical pedophilic elites are the true rulers of our political system and hence western democracy is a sham, that indeed "darkness" can only ever go so far if we operate under the lie that even the authoritarian dictator can in fact raise himself absolutely above the hand of God. in this ignorance, the "dark centrist" fancies himself free of all ideology in his utter magian hubris, and that it is indeed possible to be free of such abstractions while engaging with the ethical and political in such an abstract, disembodied manner. but of course this talk about "memes" and "evolution" is just another crass ideology abstracted from the realities of folk and base primordial struggle, a polemos that transcends our thinking of it, the hand of the gods, the shaper and destroyer of nations
https://archived.moe/lgbt/thread/43596059/#43598833

>>43698773
Every single person on that list isna retard and had done nothing to earnestly progress their political cause

>>43700948
"I don't like dark centrism because it's centrism"
Not everybody wants their neighbors genocided or their bank account socialized. The point is to rob the fringes of their best arguments so the we get change without the pendulum swinging too far in either direction, as it often does.

>https://archived.moe/lgbt/thread/43596059/#43598833
Yes, much of politics is vibes and larping. But the vibes and larping we do online have downstream effects to actual reality. And memetic feudal lords (like Hasan and Fuentes) have outsize political power leveraged with their audience size
>The solution is localism
Yeah it's called representatives and governors etc we already have them vote in your local elections

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>>43698773
The only political commentator I care about is commie mommy.

>>43701072
Genuinely excellent political weathervane

And I mean that as a compliment

She's very down to earth in a way literally no other lefty ever is

>>43699556
damn he got hot. must be all that t-girl dick

>>43698773
>absolute pinnacle, doesn't get better. His IQ is in the 125-135 range.
so... a midwit? the fact you think 125-135 is some megamind genius just goes to show how retarded the average /tttt/ user is and that most of you should be first against the wall

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>>43700948
actually let me illustrate a perfect example of where exactly "dark centrism" exposes itself as a farce. you can see it perfectly in pf jung's analysis of that one minesota shooting. he agreed with the notion that the woman should not have "escalated the situation" and should have instead complied with "law enforcement", and on the other hand the ice agent was in the wrong because his life was clearly not on the line. but of course, this is maya. the real question we have to ask about the situation is of course why there was ever an ice agent in the first place. minnesota does not have many illegal aliens. they were only sent there because of a video about somali scammers, but surely that would have nothing to do with ice in the first place as such people came there legally. pulling back then we ask then why this spectacle was necessary and who it actually served. it did not actually do anything to curb illegal immigration or even somalian scamming (a problem that had largely been solved with the majority of them already arrested for their crime). it was a simple distraction. and when we think about it rationally, this spectacle was entirely necessary to keep the cattle preoccupied, for in actual fact no bourgeois politician would ever wholly excise illegal immigrants from the united states, as they are too integrated within the production of big agriculture for such a motion to be justified

>>43701065
for one, it is centrism larping as dark. people say pf jung is a fascist. i say that he is too much of a coward to even give a serious consideration of fascism, an ideology that is much closer to true "dark centrism"

aside from that, i am not simply critiquing the fact that his darkness does not go far enough, but also that his pretence to achieving a position beyond ideology is hubriatic. he has not even come close to achieve a proper unio oppositorum, as for him to do so, the mad divine necessity of violence must be reconciled with the will to life

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>>43701238
>downstream effects to actual reality
the downstream effects are as much as is permitted of cattle. even a fart has an effect of some sort, but of course it would be a farce to extract ultimate reality from one, yet this is ultimately what "dark centrism" methodologically sets out to do
>Not everybody wants their neighbors genocided or their bank account socialized
this is itself ideology. behind it a tacit hubriatic orientation with regard to the validity of human opinion. why should we assume that the average person's say in anything or their agnosic whims rise to the level of political import? plato already saw through this lie when he wrote the republic
>Yeah it's called representatives and governors etc we already have them vote in your local elections
i suggest you read the entire link before commenting on it. you are still working within the framework of liberalism while calling it "dark" because you sometimes bring on social democrats and neo-white nationalists (i.e. liberal spiritual pharisees) on for a conversation about trite topics. the problem of local elections is that they do not go far enough, and we still erroneously allow the highest level representatives of our countries be immediately voted for without any mediation. the local level must be increasingly be refined, and it is only after that it be reintegrated into the a global perspective. moreover, the simple voting for local elections is still an incomplete politics as it one-sidedly views the political and economic as disjunct spheres. when massive corporations are capable of occupying localities and suppressing their collective self-determination, then localism becomes unable to rise to true actuality and becomes a mere dissemblance of corporate interest. this is why distributist principles are absolutely necessary

>>43699610
>Fake socialist
so only poor black mentally disabled lead eating dog fuckers can be real socialists, got it

>>43701238
>Why would ICE go to Minnesota?
>It's because of the very public corruption scandal perpetrated by Somali immigrants and enabled by Governor Walz who formerly challenged Trump as VP candidate
>But we still need to conspiracize about why ICE was REALLY there
dog

>people say pf jung is a fascist. i say that he is too much of a coward to even give a serious consideration of fascism, an ideology that is much closer to true "dark centrism"
You sound like you are nowhere near the center lmao of course you hate him

>>43701379
This is so bafflingly stupid but said in smart words
>this is itself ideology. behind it a tacit hubriatic orientation with regard to the validity of human opinion. why should we assume that the average person's say in anything or their agnosic whims rise to the level of political import? plato already saw through this lie when he wrote the republic
Translated: You're not a real centrist! You have an opinion! It's all made up and the points don't matter, Plato said so!

>you are still working within the framework of liberalism while calling it "dark" because you sometimes bring on social democrats and neo-white nationalists (i.e. liberal spiritual pharisees) on for a conversation about trite topics. the problem of local elections is that they do not go far enough, and we still erroneously allow the highest level representatives of our countries be immediately voted for without any mediation. the local level must be increasingly be refined, and it is only after that it be reintegrated into the a global perspective. moreover, the simple voting for local elections is still an incomplete politics as it one-sidedly views the political and economic as disjunct spheres. when massive corporations are capable of occupying localities and suppressing their collective self-determination, then localism becomes unable to rise to true actuality and becomes a mere dissemblance of corporate interest. this is why distributist principles are absolutely necessary
Translated: You're not radical enough! Local elections are still subject to national elections and pushing a local candidate up the chain takes too long for the radical change I want!

>>43701379
>>43701664
(cont)
>the downstream effects are as much as is permitted of cattle. even a fart has an effect of some sort, but of course it would be a farce to extract ultimate reality from one, yet this is ultimately what "dark centrism" methodologically sets out to do
Translated: Dark Centrism doesn't go far enough!

I implore you to be less verbose and more concise in your argumentation, lest nitwits like myself get caught up in your tangled web and your point lost, your desire to communicate dashed against the rocks of incomprehension. Brevity is the soul of wit, or whatever it is pretentious twats like to say

You are exactly the type of dude who would get mad about Dark Centrism! We take your best talking points, and the best from the other extreme, and make a coherent argument to make peoples lives better without going hard communist or hard fascist. At least that's the goal!

>>43701419
>It's because of the very public corruption scandal perpetrated by Somali immigrants and enabled by Governor Walz who formerly challenged Trump as VP candidate
again, what does that have to do with illegal immigration though? the premise is utterlt nonsensical yet you passively fall for it, helplessly flailing around the matrix while posturing as having an enlightened non-ideological position

trump btw is an epsteinite pedophile that is pump and dumping the entire global economy. even mussolini is absolutely a greater statesman than him. defending him is cattle behaviour

>You sound like you are nowhere near the center lmao of course you hate him
fascism is actual centrism and i am sure the average fascist wouldnt like him either

>>43701664
>>43701685
>It's all made up and the points don't matter,
that is not what i am saying at all. why should individual preference matter for what is just and the good? "some people dont like something", ok and?
>the chain takes too long for the radical change I want
it is not about it "taking too long". if the government is captured by zionist parasites and corporate interests, then speed is not even the question lol
>less verbose and more concise in your argumentation
maybe you should improve your reading comprehension as i only wrote a few paragraphs. your "translations" are utterly nonsensical as they are not only strawmen but the elide the fact that they have argumentation behind them. you cant just "distil" things without looking at the underlying reasoning. simply shopping around for "talking points" prevents genuine insight from arising

>>43701789
>strawmen but the elide the fact that they have argumentation
*strawmen but elide the fact that my points have argumentation

>>43701727
>again, what does that have to do with illegal immigration though? the premise is utterlt nonsensical yet you passively fall for it, helplessly flailing around the matrix while posturing as having an enlightened non-ideological position
Ah, I see the issue. Dark centrism is NOT "non-ideological" It is its own ideology. Attacking it on the basis that it's just another perspective is fair, same as yours. But it's better because it's less disruptive to society, taking real problems highlight by both fringes, and bringing them into a center to be synthesized. It's more useful than any far right or far left ideology.

>Assuming I like Trump
Cattle behavior my dude

>My secret special ideology is what the real normal people believe
Ok homie

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No bigger ick than someone saying they watch Hasan. Genuinely the bottom equivalent of an Andrew Tate fan.

>>43701789
Listen buddy. Sometimes I'm gonna argue in favor of things you like. Sometimes I won't. That's about it.

Israel has too much influence in American politics, for sure. But hardcore socialism should not be a package deal with that concept. Somebody needs to offer that concept.

By the same token, immigration has been out of control for years. But someone needs to offer a humane way to deport people, without the disgusting glee of the Trump crowd.

Here I am.

>>43698773
>Hyde not even in this list

Why? His Dear Elon video and at least a few of those sit down ones are legitimate goldmines.

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>>43701854
>Ah, I see the issue. Dark centrism is NOT "non-ideological" It is its own ideology
of course it is but he goes on to arrogantly talk about how political ideologies are "parasitical memes" and see them as just emphasizing certain archetypes over others. if he is going to take such a posture, i am inclined to expose that it is a definite sham
>taking real problems highlight by both fringes
how are you determining what is a "real problem"? without seriously getting to the actual root of any issue, you are simply synthesizing surface phenomena. who is to say both the far right and the far left are not absolutely right that at the final analysis society needs to be ultimately torn down (and indeed, that it shall be torn down by the ordination of destiny)? what if that is the absolute commonality that is the true dark centre?
>>Assuming I like Trump
why are you giving him the benefit of the doubt and baselessly throwing out my analysis as a mere conspiracy theory then? you may not "like" him but you still feel the need to defend the idea that his actions represent some sort of popular legitimacy. you have, from the outset, ruled out the notion that he is just another surface phenomenon of the matrix and that there are ultimately deeper forces at play
>>My secret special ideology is what the real normal people believe
where did i claim this?

>>43698773
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>>43701989
I think you're taking offense to "parasitic memes". All concepts that live in our heads are parasitic. They cannot live without us.

"Real problems" are of course determined based on the needs of the people, and change from election to election. What are you gonna ask me next, "who are the people?" (It's Americans btw, and not the ones who got here last week)

>Trump
Your analysis contains more assumptions than the obvious. Somalian illegal activity and Gov Walz is reason enough for Trump to target Minnesota, obviously. Why do you need more?

>>43701968
Dear Elon was one of the best videos I've ever seen in my entire life. He's a 105 IQ supergenius, he's putting that brain to work.

>>43698773
Vaush is a legitimate retard and I say this as someone who watches him frequently
He's one of the few people who's a retard as a character flaw and not an inherent characteristic
He WILL NOT go to the effort of learning about anything, he believes firmly that he can arrive at the correct conclusion on everything in existence through vibes and snippets of information
He's intellectually lazy

Kyle kulinski is the best commentator

>>43702147
>Kyle kulinski is the best commentator
You had me until this lmao

That guy is hardcore liar

I remember him going hard on the "Trump is secretly mentally declining!" back in like 2024 election season until it was clear Biden's brain was mush and Kyle was projecting. Embarassing

>>43702264
trump is drooling out the mouth he's so demented now
no lies were detected

>>43702147
I genuinely think only the first 5 people I mentioned could beat Charlie Kirk in a debate, so even though Vaush is retarded, he's leagues above most. Intelligent people either don't want to talk about politics or they're formally scholars.

>He's intellectually lazy
I perceive everyone to be intellectually lazy. He's had some profoundly dumb takes, like he's naive about criminality and racial differences.

Why don't you niggas like Professor Jiang? That guy is crazy but he's much more insightful if you're willing to go a little schizo.

>>43702264
Both Trump & Biden are on the mental decline

Biden's is much worse

Trump hides it very well but he's said a lot of crazy stuff casually, his coherent views are sometimes more insane than Biden's takes half asleep

>>43702280
The 2024 debate between Trump and Biden was so catastrophic they had to switch to Kamala. It was before then that Kyle was saying Trump was mush, and he went on to win the fucking election against a woman half his age. There's a lot to criticize about Trump now, but in 2024 Kyle was grifting hard on the "Trump is senile" train which was so obviously false it discredits him as a commentator imo. He shut up about it after the debate, for the most part.

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>>43702054
>I think you're taking offense to "parasitic memes"
the entire thing is offensive as it is utterly anti-intellectual. ideologies are not just isolated ideas for how to run society which came together by happenstance. they are a way of understanding how the world works, and they often analyze real structural dynamics within society. you can't just pick and choose haphazardly without paying attention to the underlying logic. when you want to build a car, you need a coherent idea on how physical reality works. you cant just randomly synthesize classical mechanics with voodoo, extracting the ideas that make sense on the surface, or you are not going to make a functioning vehicle! before you can talk about arbitrary individual preferences, you need to ask yourself first of all whether what you have even works or it will inevitably spontaneously combust. you cant just take ideas from marx without looking at his ideas for why he thought capitalism was going to negate itself. you cant just take ideas from gentile without paying attention to his ontology of the totalitarian state. when you do that, you are just slinging together random ideas together without any aim at rational coherence
>Why do you need more?
the purpose of ice is to target illegal aliens. if you go to a random state far from mexico that we know doesnt have illegal immigrants then what are you trying to achieve? it is a flagrant waste of manpower if the purpose was actually to deport illegals

>>43698773
The horse penis guy? Thats who you chose to have your parasocial relationship with?
You do you nona

>>43702327
>Both Trump & Biden are on the mental decline
Fair and true (and a reason Trump 3rd term was always a ridiculous Democrat scare tactic)

>>43702367
again, where's the lie? trump was and is a senile retard
>he won against Genocide Joe and Kopmala
waow

>>43702376
>memes
The average voter does not know how a car works. They know how to drive to work and do their job. Memes are the same way. Most people are downstream on the meme adoption curve, they operate on what they can pick up from society. Did you not watch the video? There's some good stuff in there.
>you cant just take ideas from marx without looking at his ideas for why he thought capitalism was going to negate itself. you cant just take ideas from gentile without paying attention to his ontology of the totalitarian state. when you do that, you are just slinging together random ideas together without any aim at rational coherence
People can absolutely do this an literally do this all the time. The broader an idea gets in distribution the less well it is understood and lower resolution it becomes. That's what priests and academics and doctors are, translators of the arcane to the normie who has no time or ability to delve deep.
>the purpose of ice is to target illegal aliens. if you go to a random state far from mexico that we know doesnt have illegal immigrants then what are you trying to achieve? it is a flagrant waste of manpower if the purpose was actually to deport illegals
My nigga you have no idea about the actual problem do you. Our asylum policy allowed random fucks from any country to cross our border, claim asylum, and be given a bus ticket and court date (years from now) and be allowed to exist in America. Illegals are everywhere. Trump had the "remain in Mexico" policy that forced them to wait for their asylum hearing in the nearest safe country, but Biden got rid of it. Ignoring that even, do you not remember when Gov Abbot started bussing illegals from Texas to random "sanctuary states" in like 2022??? And New York was mad as hell about it? Martha's Vineyard getting illegals? Some right winger you are, probably not even American

>>43698773
single pic that proves horse guy is a pooner - even when chadding up the muscles his whole above the neck is so poony (cope beard doesn't help either)
i love the memes "he" had going on with cuckstiny, there were some fun parts in that girl drama

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>>43698773
don't watch any of those faggots, occultist husbando styx is all I need

>>43698773
Vaush and hasan are low iq grifter anyone who consider him intelligent is retarded and stupid. Most leftist commentators are dumb fucks.

>>43698773
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to advocate for pedophilia. The politics are extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical communism most of the policies will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Vaush's zoophilic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation.

>>43698773
People like hasan, vaush and kile kulinsky is why the left keep losing.

>>43705058
I mean lgb people are losing

Do you people really idolize streamers? What's wrong with you?

>>43702147
Marxist ideology is lazy and dumb what do you expect from people who sopport this low iq ideology.

>>43705095
Then the lgtbq community keep bitching why they losing there right maybe they should stop listening to this dumbs fucks and worshiping them.

>>43698773
>>43699329
See, libtards really apply diversity quotas and wrong think into their equations of how much they like someone.

I only seen voosh splreg out over drama.

The smartest things destiny does is preprep (like actually does homework.)

Fuentes turned on hard mode by saying nigga followed by getting debanked. Libbiters has 0 appreciate for history beyond "naazeye bad, marx good, but Israel baaaad, but only if my pundit says it, consoooom slop. "

>>43699208
too bad he's also an insufferable fucking cunt

>>43701238
Wtf CUTE yoru

>>43705107
t. never read any marxist texts