>>43701846
Feminist trans women are the second most obnoxious type of trans woman after the white baby trans who hasn't figured out she doesn't have white male privilege any more.

>>43701846
this is just a case of a person lacking theory of mind because of their autism and thus projecting their own thoughts onto everyone

>>43701846
They're just coping very hard. Now they're projecting onto everyone their extreme and obsessive sissy fetish they mistake for identity?

>>43701846
I don't, what do you think about that OP?

>>43704435
you do at some level

>some literally who tranny says something profoundly retarded
>obviously all trannies must believe this, because... ???

>>43706592
because you shame men who want to bottom and trannies who want to top

>>43706609
(you)

>>43706674
thanks!

>>43701899
>white male privilege
jej

you mean,
>lost the minimal human "privilege" of looking normal

>Obese tranny that just looks like a man with a faggy haircut is actually a weird gooner
Very cool

>>43701846
why do people think using nonsense phrases like "assimilation of any erotic image" makes them smart? i blame European philosophy, including Freud, Marx, Jung, etc. for making the prosodic equivalent of abstract art seem smart when it's just hiding your views behind a layer of abstractness.

>>43709261
>gender dysphoria isn't just hiding sexism and homophobia behind semantic abstraction

>>43709274
isn't transphobia sexism? because it advocates treating people differently based on their birth sex. and how is it homophobia when most trannies are openly gay or bi and most transphobes are straight or closeted

>>43709331
i see, you're not just sexist and transphobic, but you're ALSO racist. my bad

>>43709363
no worries, apologies accepted! thanks fren

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hi chuddy! here is a relevant hazbin hotel image for your post.

>>43701846
yeah but theyre right tho

>>43701846
Why do foids wanna monopolize womenhood so badly aren't y'all supposed to be heckin' oppresed by da patriarchy or something to that effect ?

>>43709828
a mysterious contradiction

>>43709331
It's a shame this is an edit

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>>43709888
this one isn't

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>>43709888
here is a relevant hazbin hotel image for your samefagging.

>>43709993
I weren't sameGODding sister.

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>>43710026
here is a relevant hazbin hotel image for that response.

>>43709903
Ngl this feels like a false flag

>>43706609
So you're a bottom chaser seething about it?

>>43701846
>>43704303
Wow this obscure quote you found really accurately represents millions of different people you never met. Dumbass.

>>43710060
people used to make like DAILY threads about her 10 years ago she was a HOT topic here

>>43710086
>obscure

>>43701846
From someone with a pussy and an asshole it feels about the same

>>43710322
are pussies as uniform as assholes?
assholes can be really good and tight or really bad and loose and its just random
i only tried a few pussies, texture was really nice but dealing with foids less so

do you think andrea's chu is really long or its just a misnomer

>>43710347
idk, but when I got fucked in both it didn't feel very different, personally
>but dealing with foids less so
cornball moment at the end there

would

>>43706592
It's the exact same thing schizos use to promote jewish conspiracies
>"some radical progressive kike academic that no one has ever fucking heard of before says white people are evil so therefore all jews think like this"

Same shit

>>43710470
damn kikes

>>43709791
No, you're not.

>>43709903
"Transphobes" are right then.

>>43711596
about all of the panels or just one in particular?

>>43709903
The first one is a generalization; trans* women can be male with respect to some aspects of their biology but female with respect to other aspects, e.g., hormonal biology, sexually dimorphic fat distribution. this second one is also a generalization, saying you wouldn't date one when you haven't meet them all. it's just as obviously biased as said you'd never date a Black or Korean woman. The third is ignorant; some trans women have to hide for safety reasons, and outing yourself to everyone isn't practical. I mean, where do you draw the line? Should gay men have to out themselves as gay to friends and collegues? Should they have to announce "I'm gay" upon entering a locker room in case anyone wants to leave?
Also, "can't they just be gay" is beyond foolish, even in comparison to the others; many trans women are bi or lesbian, some are asexual, and there's a difference between even straight trans women and gay men. You can call that difference identity, dysphoria, incongruence, or transition.
>Gender incongruence is characterised by a marked and persistent incongruence between an individual’s experienced gender and the assigned sex. Gender variant behaviour and preferences alone are not a basis for assigning the diagnoses in this group.

>>43711520
yes we are

>>43701846
this is only your opinion because your only exposure to trans women is through porn

>>43701846
no, topping with your penis is womanly

>>43701846
>the asshole is a universal vagina through which femaleness can always be accessed
holy shit, only a tranny could say some stupid shit like this. getting fucked in the ass does not make you a woman and being a woman is not about being fucked. that is so incredibly misogynistic to reduce womanhood down to being fucked. why why why why why are all trannies like this, we arent even real women why do i keep seeing other troons acting like they can have any input on what being a woman is like. we are estrogenized males, not women. these agp hons need to stop pretending they are, its so embarrassing when they opens their mouths to spew out more retarded optics nukes.

>>43714206
misogyny is based

>>43701846
U believe they believe that

>>43715496
Because it's true. Trannies believe topping invalidates your womanhood.

>>43715539
honestly this only applies if you top with your dick
a strap is fine

>>43715097
this anon gets it

>>43715097
women are far superior to moids, sorry chuddy

>>43714206
You're based for telling the truth.

>>43711608
All of them, of course.

>>43714004
Cope harder.

>>43716591
Girl get out of their business

>>43716599
Man, stop lying so much.

>>43714206
I agree with everything but were a lil more than estrogenized males spiritually speaking. Physically it is what it is, but the creepiest trannys always make it sexual.

>>43715621
Fr. Strap is legal, but honestly topping in general grosses me out since I date men almost exclusively. Absolutely 0 t4t its creepy every single fucking time.

>>43716638
strap doesn't even feel good

>>43701846
she's right when you read it in context and not all cut up and rearranged and out of context
you read this like
>she is saying apg = xx zomes
>being bummed makes you a woman
but she isn't saying that, you have to attack a strawman because what she actually says is interesting and your mind doesn't reach as far as that

>>43717578
huh

we extend femaleness outside of humanity, we see it in inanimate objects, in ideas and traits and characteristics, in events, in memories, the way we construct it is rarely ever to flip somebody over and check, this is not a biological idea of femaleness it is one based on desire and the gendering of desire, object and subject stuff
the trick of desire is to not get crushed by it

>>43716638
ill be honest, once in a while i do get the hunger to strap a big beefy bear

>>43716591
wax your armpits

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GMWgig6AuE
listen to this for like ten seconds and you might get what's happening

>>43714206
>we are estrogenized males, not women

Heavenly Emperor Golden Truth Blast of the 9 Hells

>>43717693
cringe and wrong

>>43717696
Trannies need to drop the "We are the opposite sex" mumbo jumbo and finally be free of carting that stupid ideology around forever. It's like chains that we put upon ourselves because we want it to be true.

>>43717677
her voice is much faggier and less autistic sounding than I expected

>>43717712
you're just stuck with an incorrect assumption about biology, learn a bit and you'll get over it

>>43717717
I guess?

>>43717729
>I guess?
I dunno I sit here listening to agp robot voices all the time and hers is way more naturally feminine than those.

>>43717733
that sounds like hell anon

>>43717729
>you're just stuck with an incorrect assumption about biology,

biology kind of works in my favor in this argument t_b_h

>>43717751
no it doesn't, your problem is that you beg the question, you start with the assumption that male (a category) is constructed in some kind of objective or proper way, by you, and from that you get a conclusion that isn't actually based on a reasonable look at bimodal distributions of traits or the ability to alter traits but simply a restatement of the initial assertion about how we should construct the category of male
take the time to interrogate your initial construction and you'll find it doesn't really even hold on an individual level

>>43717811
>s constructed in some kind of objective or proper way

God this line of reasoning is dumb
>You can't define what a woman is
ergo
>I am a woman!

>>43717823
you can define what a woman is though

>The thesis of this little book is that femaleness is a universal sex defined by self-negation, against which all politics, even feminist politics, rebels. Put more simply: Everyone is female, and everyone hates it.

>Some explanations are in order. For our purposes here, I’ll define as female any psychic operation in which the self is sacrificed to make room for the desires of another. These desires may be real or imagined, concentrated or diffuse—a boyfriend’s sexual needs, a set of cultural expectations, a literal pregnancy—but in all cases, the self is hollowed out, made into an incubator for an alien force. To be female is to let someone else do your desiring for you, at your own expense. This means that femaleness, while it hurts only sometimes, is always bad for you. Its ultimate toll, at least in every case heretofore recorded, is death.

>Clearly, this is a wildly tendentious definition. It’s even more far-fetched if you, like me, are applying it to everyone—literally everyone, every single human being in the history of the planet. So it’s true: When I talk about females, I am not referring to biological sex, though I’m not referring to gender, either. I’m referring instead to something that might as well be sex, the way that reactionaries describe it (permanent, unchanging, etc.), but whose nature is ontological, not biological. Femaleness is not an anatomical or genetic characteristic of an organism, but rather a universal existential condition, the one and only structure of human consciousness. To be is to be female: the two are identical

this triggers the chud

>>43701846
not a fetish btw

>>43717856
you're dumb

>>43717843
?

>It might be asked: if men, women, and everyone else all share this condition, why continue to refer to it with an obviously gendered term like females? The answer is: because everybody already does. Women hate being females as much as anybody else; but unlike everybody else, we find ourselves its select delegates.

it's so clear she's doing this deliberately to make a point but I guess rather than investigating the bad faith image it's just so much easier to get into a rage it and learn into your own transphobia
humans are so easy to manipulate

>>43717883
what are you confused about (try not to say everything)

>>43701846
>thing that is not true
>"why is this true?"
boring thread next

>>43717834
virulently misogynist nonsense written by a man with a sissy fetish

>>43717922
point out where the misogyny is

this triggers the chud

>>43717729
its not entirely about biology. trans women never grew up as women and rarely experience womanhood because 90% of the time they dont pass and are seen as the third gender they are. male socialization is a thing. also trans women literally have dicks. not very womanlike. but i know youve hard coped yourself into thinking otherwise for your "validation". you can do whatever you like in your transition, but it doesnt change the fact you are scientifically male. your gender you can change, but your sex you cannot, very unfortunately. maybe in 50 years when doctors can surgically give you an actual vagina, functionally changing your scientific sex like how certain other species can change their scientific sex, just manually instead of an automatic built in function; maybe you will be correct.
>>43717834
your describing something trans women do not experience anyway nor anyone else not born as the female sex.

It’s a fetish and im tired of pretending its not. Trannies will never be accepted as long as they have this porn addiction mentality.

>>43717811
YOU are making an assumption that "male" is relative instead of something definable.
Your definition turns women into males if they're muscular enough or tall enough, since they enter the male bell curve.

Sex exists and is important because of why it exists in the first place: reproduction.
We care about sex because we are descendants of hundreds of million of years of "stick small gamete sex organ" into/onto/near the large gamete recepticle.

>>43718209
>trans women never grew up as women
some do some don't, so what
>90% of the time they dont pass and are seen as the third gender they are
made up number and an assertion without evidence
I don't think people see trans people as a third gender in most places
>male socialization is a thing
trans people that know they're trans early don't have a normal socialisation generally, and male and female socialisation aren't really terms for individuals anywhere they're terms for populations
>also trans women literally have dicks. not very womanlike
can be solved
>but i know youve hard coped yourself into thinking otherwise for your "validation
this is a very whiny and boring way to piss your pants mid argument
>it doesnt change the fact you are scientifically male
exactly what I said, you're begging the question, you start with the assumption and then restate it as if it was a conclusion, bunk
cool we got an upgrade to "biological" sex though, now we have "scientific" sex
you people are a joke, next time actually try to content with the central point rather than repeat your fallacious assertion


>your [sic] describing
>a book passage
ur dumb

>>43718247
speak for yourself freak!

>>43718268
>YOU are making an assumption that "male" is relative instead of something definable.
no, not how that works, if you want it to be objective then you'd need to offer evidence for that, it's trivial to show we can create multiple definitions, it's on you to prove that any one would be more "correct" than another, or objective or proper or whatever
if you didn't know that, idk, did you not go to school?

>Your definition turns women into males if they're muscular enough or tall enough, since they enter the male bell curve.
that's wrong

>Sex exists and is important because of why it exists in the first place: reproduction.
it exists, because, like any category, we made it up, and before you trip over your chin no we don't make up reality, reality is out there, we draw the lines around it, we evolved, we interpret reality, our mind points out patterns in things, we choose to draw a line around it
it is a choice where we draw the lines, very basic ontology here

>>43717677
holy borefest

> Everyone is female, and everybody hates it. If this is true, then gender is very simply the form this self-loathing takes in any given case. All gender is internalized misogyny. A female is one who has eaten the loathing of another, like an amoeba that got its nucleus by swallowing its neighbor. Or, to put a finer point on it: Gender is not just the misogynistic expectations a female internalizes but also the process of internalization itself, the self’s gentle suicide in the name of someone else’s desires, someone else’s narcissism.
SLAPS

>>43718400
you're boring (and dumb)

>if there is any lesson of gender transition—from the simplest request regarding pronouns to the most invasive surgeries—it’s that gender is something other people have to give you. Gender exists, if it is to exist at all, only in the structural generosity of strangers. When people today say that a given gender identity is “valid,” this is true, but only tautologically so. At best it is a moral demand for possibility, but it does not, in itself, constitute the realization of this possibility. The truth is, you are not the central transit hub for meaning about yourself, and you probably don’t even have a right to be. You do not get to consent to yourself, even if you might deserve the chance.

>You do not get to consent to yourself—a definition of femaleness.

SLAP
LAPS
APSL
PSLA

>>43718404
schizobabble defeated with one simple question: if everyone is already female then why do you need hrt and surgeries?

>>43717578
>she

>>43718553
idiot question defeated with one simple statement: you don't understand what's being said because you didn't read the book up to that point, if you had you'd know that's a stupid question, I even already posted enough context here to know that
>>43717834

:) dummies

>>43717578
>HER LITERAL WORDS AREN'T WHAT SHE'S SAYING
>YOU HAVE TO PARSE THE PENUMBRAS AND EMANATIONS OF HER 100 INCOHERENT SCHIZORANT

>>43718695
you really are dumb lol
no, you cannot just read a paragraph from a book and assume you know what it means out of context
haha
silly (dumb)

>>43718721
Why don't you just tell us what you think it means since you're the expert

>>43717886
>we

>>43718770
why don't you just read the book if you care

>>43718636
I'm not reading xis book lmao Holy shill thread

>>43718209
>surgically give you an actual vagina
would this surgery also give them an actual female nervous system + female skelleton, female bones and even a female womb + ovaries and everything else? if not they will still be male, sorry. Blame biology, not me.

>>43718832
then you don't care to know, the book is one big explanation

>>43718855
There is more than one explanation and many books on the subject. I just don't think "everybody is female and hates themselves" is it chief

>>43718855
The book is one big incoherent schizorant and you can't put it's supposed meaning into words.

>>43718868
more than one explanation of what? what she said? if there is it would be in her other books?

>>43718886
it's really really easy

>>43718895
more than one explanation of human sex lmao
you seem like the kind of guy who reads one bad book on the subject and thinks he has allll the answers while in fact having none of them

>>43718924
can you not follow a conversation? we're not even talking about human sex, the book is not one big explanation of human sex anon