I do not believe children can be born in the wrong body. I feel the problem is society and unwillingness to accept those who are different and non-conforming, not "testosterone is a poison" or "my brain and body don't match", those are ways of trying to articulate how society has made you feel unwelcome without blaming those who have actually caused the problem.
>>43705352nobody cares about your opinion
>>43705352thems da gncs and enbees my niggy, some of dem DSDnigs be all the way binary shits a spectrum nawatimeen?
Good for you. Don't speak for me as if you know what I'm going through.
>>43705352>the problem is society and unwillingness to accept those who are different and non-conformingYes but the logical conclusion of this is cuntboys, futas, and people who purposely identify with nothing or everything
>>43705352You don't get to dictate the subjective experience of others.
>>43705352You're hanging on every word instead of catching the jist. Nobody can be born in "the wrong body" per-se, but we reject things about ourselves all the time. We use medical science to cure tons of other incongruous things for example. So as a figure of speech most of us are born in the wrong bodies.
>>43705352This line of reasoning unrionically results in afab transfems and AGP beardhons in women's bathrooms
>>43705352>testosterone is a poisonHave you not seen male pattern baldness or seen the early male death statistics? What else would you call it?
>>43705562>baldnessNot an issue for me, my dad still has most of his hair at like 60>early male death From suicide? You trannies are like 10x more likely to commit suicide so whats your point.
>>43705553Why don't you say what you mean if that's what you mean! Dishonesty is staggering so nobody can agree or take what you say at face value
>>43705352That when there's actually a physiological response at puberty which makes you feel sick and may make you psychotic. Then it's something more than just a social dislike for your sex role expectation
>>43705597Holy fried brain Batman. You only speak in meme propaganda? Sad what they did to you.
>>43705860The meme propagandist. Mostly nazis trying to sell swastikas out of this warehouse
>>43705901Yep, they got you good. Don't forget to buy your Nazi merch from the southern white power warehouse. I'll make it easy, anytime you blanket accuse an entire demographic, you've gone full retard. Yw
>>43705741I complete for some people it's all just for me it definitely was a psychosis which began at puberty and caused me severe emotional and mental problems until I had my testicles removed. No I didn't need to go further and be a woman but I did need to not be a man
>>43705936Lol exactly. Thanks for playing.
>>43705956I was never a man. A man is an adult male. I never reached adulthood as a male you could say I was an adult unique but you can't say I was an adult man because I never had testosterone in my body past the age of 15. Being late for puberty.I never actually wanted to be a woman. I couldn't be immature male because testosterone made me psychotic. It's all a compromise
>women have learned how to trick men into hating themselves
>>43705994I already told you I could never be a man because a man is an adult male I've never reached adulthood as a male. You can't understand this you're just stupid or you're just trying to be an asshole because you don't like transgender women
>>43706016They're willfully retarded
>>43706033It seems obvious to me he's the male and he hates it. I'm not saying he's a man because he's probably not a man but he's born male and he hates himself for it
>>43706044If I hate cancer do I become the cancer?
>>43706039My chromosomes are all messed up! I don't have an Y chromosome: I have an SRY on one of my X chromosomes. It's a serious disorder and leaves to both mental and physical disability. I've been on disability for life
>>43706053I'm not necessarily so. I didn't have the choice I've been disabled since I was 13 years old, physically, emotionally and mentally
>>43705352unless your goal is to believe whatever you want without taking the viewpoint of the people you're actually talking about into consideration, then this post isn't very productiveif someone is a boy and just more feminine, or a girl and just more masculine, but they truly enjoy being boy and girl and never wanted to be anything else, there should be room for thatthe problem is that many trans people (me, etc) don't just want to be feminine; we want the other social role, the other parts, the other relationship dynamics, the other biological processes"I was born in the wrong body" and "I would be much happier with the other kind of body" are basically identical and we're splitting hairs
>>43706079Well now you're acting defensive like you can't handle my situation. I feel pity for you that you're not able to handle other people's predicaments. People like to prevent people like me from having a discourse about my own problems. You're really the worst kind of human being because of this
>>43706079Y chromosome is crazy small. Like 0.01% of the entire DNA. Like fun fact, everybody inherited 95% of their brain from their mom not their dad.
>>43706151Ew, no
>>43706151I've never been able to pass as a man. I passed as a female because I look like a child, even though I'm full grown. My body is rather unattractive, I don't have anyone in my life as a mate.Who I envy the most attractive men who are gay.
>>43706152I've never heard this before. You're saying that my brain is probably more like my mother? I don't really care either way but my mother and I were much closer my father I didn't know him very well
>>43706180you live in a delusional fantasy world of your own imagination>>43706152go inhale a few grains of fentanyl if you think tiny particles are function-less
>>43706594Is this little boy again? I thought you were on her way from the conversation because you were scared off?
>>43705620efficiency sake? words are always in flux and people naturally do things
>>43705352>"the problem is that society is not accepting of people who are 'different'">"except trannies, they're different in the wrong ways"Every fucking time with you people
>>43706698>they're different in the wrong wayslet's say I am a farmer and I have two groups of farm animalsall the animals are male, same species, except in one group, all the males are castratedwould you expect more herd-like conformist behavior in the castrated herd or the uncastrated herd?
>>43706698>quote marks on greentextway to out yourself tourist
>>43706711i'd guess among the castrated
>>43705525>subjectivelol
>>43705352If we abolish the idea that pink is for girl and blue is for boy the trans thing will go away. Liking girly stuff doesn't make you less of a man.
>>43705352then how come i like my body better now even though i'm actually more non-conforming (and i mean i don't conform to feminine standards) and more un-accepted
>>43705352i think beings can have strong preferences about the physical shape of their body, and that ceteris paribus, helping beings satisfy their preferences is good. i think this because it seems to me that i have strong preferences about how my body ought to be shaped, and relatively weak preferences about how i ought to be perceived.which part of this do you disagree with?
>>43707380no one ever gave me shit for wearing pink as a man. i transitioned because men are ugly and women are cute, capiche?
>>43707403You Just mentally fuck in the head you need to be in a mental institucion not affirming your delusion.
>>43707401Everything you just mentally fuck in the head.
>>43707380pink is a more eye-catching color than blue is
>>43707453you sound so retarded dude what?>hah hah, nice argument, but i'd love to cut off all your arms and rape you and then feed you to a swarm of mosquitoeslike that's not an argument it's just pointless, animalistic calls for cruelty. what are you, a medieval peasant? it's a wonder you can read
>>43705352>I do not believe children can be born in the wrong bodyIt's a turn of phrase that illustrates it conceptually for the layman. It's closer to that we are born with the wrong brain.Since 1976 there have been nearly 100 neurological studies comparing transgender brains to cisgender brains. They show with great consistency that the dimorphic structures of tranny brains more closely resemble the common patterns of their experienced gender than their birth sex.They have discovered such patterns in children as young as 10. They have accounted for pre- and post-HRT. This is reality. This is science.Picrel is an excellent example to demonstrate this.When a girl brain receives the wrong sex hormones en masse, this creates an adverse reaction leading to gender dysphoria.When a girl brains perceives that it is in a boy body, this also leads to gender dysphoria.There is no compromise for good mental health, no acceptable third option, no just being a feminine man. Transition is the only known reliable method for treating dysphoria longterm.And yes, I did try just being a man. I tried for 33 years to just be a man. How much longer until the dysphoria goes away?> I feel the problem is society and unwillingness to accept those who are different and non-conformingFixing this would certainly make society more accepting of social transition and would doubtless lead to greater acceptance of medical transition, but it would not fix the underlying problem.
>>43707683>dude just look at the colors
>>43707683There is no such things as gender Dysphoria the only cure for you mental illness is a asylumn.
>>43707699neuron activation patterns>>43707751the only service an asylum provides is to hide "undesirables" away from society. It makes you comfortable, it doesn't help ustransition enables us to be productive members of society instead of vegetables in a cell
>>43707699>>43707751>t. can’t interpret brain scans, nor follow scientific realityWay to show not only how delusional you are but how emotionally compromised you’ve become because something you don’t like exists and it makes you uncomfortable.The only people that deserve to be institutionalized are harmful science deniers such as yourselves.
>>43707871You mean fabricated facts invented by people who get paid to feed a narrative.
>>43707915provide evidence of fabrication for 50 years of studies conducted around the world by different people
>>43707915Ahh yes, because the groups that you support aren’t morally compromised themselves, nor are accepting financial incentives to twist narratives to dupe saps such as yourselves into pushing their narrative without question.You have no leg to stand on. And at best can only formulate arguments that amount to:>it’s all fake and gayand nothing with substance. Continue espousing how much of a conspiracytard you are though so the rest can recognize how unhinged people who hold your views are.
>>43707956bump
hi chuddy! here is a relevant hazbin hotel image for your post.
>>43705352we can literally attribute cross gender ideation to a specific alteration in the brain. fun fact, its also completely non-correlated with brain intersexing.
>>43705352>I feel the problem is society and unwillingness to accept those who are different and non-conformingYES. THIS IS THE WHOLE REASON ACTUAL HSTS TRANSITION.Society shits on men who are so incorrigibly feminine that they cannot stop behaving like women, and on women who are so incorrigibly masculine that they cannot stop behaving like men.Fix society and HSTS will stop transitioning.Then you can ban medical transition because the only people still wanting to transition will be AAP/AGP.
>>43709931I do think he may be right. I know I trans since I had a eunuch like body childbearing hips and I was 5'6.I was also naturally feminine, in gender therapy at age 8, it didn't work I transitioned as soon as I got out of school. Boys today usually don't transition. They live as feminine gay boys.
>>43710839tell me everything about gender therapy at age 8
>>43709931why is agp/aap transition wrong, exactly?
>>43709900>specific alteration in the brainhmm, is it you being unable to read and not realizing that the self-perception part in that finnish/swedish stoody is indeed described as "sex-shifted"?
>>43710888*sex-atypical, I miswrote. Yes, regardless of sexual orientation
>>43710856Because it doesn't work. They almost never pass. It instead fuels the fantasy and leads to ever more erratic behavior.
>>43710915>almost never passseems like a self-fullfilling prophecy>declare all passoids hsts>declare all nonpassers/eratics agp>"why are agps so bad?"
>>43711024t. agp
>>43710915In reality it’s the opposite of this, agps are trutrans even according to Blanchard himself
>>43711194he just said their motivation is more internal he encouraged his patients to accept their birth sex
>>43711076i am le 'ooner anon>>43711224no he did notthat was zucker/possibly bailey(?)
>>43711393yeah he did his point was to make fun of hsts for being externally motivated to transition, not to say he thinks agps are valid, he doesn't
>>43710915so then who should transition?
>>43711755I think it should be based totally on your physicality. What is your body look like?>Body less than 5'6">Eunuch build, wide hips, narrow shoulders >Feminine face >Small hands and feet >Feminine personalityFemales why should they transition? Females do not have to earn being women
>>43705352not how it works lmfao
>>43705352Alice, take your pills already
>>43710909>>43710888i literally said as much you retard
>>43713333>i am sexually attracted to children
>>43714873many such tranny cases
>>43715062is that a tranny though, or is it a chaser?
>>43715252most trannies here avatarfag with animated pictures of little girlscan you imagine how weird it would be if those trannies used pictures of actual little girls instead?
>>43715275do they though, or is that a thing that ceased to be on this site 10 years ago as the ugly lolicore nonsense of the late 2000s faded?
>>43715299yes, all the time, once you notice it you will shit brix
>>43715312waow. ill be sure to have a proper gander over the board and see if i can spot some of these cartoon nonce transvestites you mention then.
>>43715322ok enjoy
>>43705352
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