You say trans women are women. Okay. But what is that? Most of you dont even look like women. Do you have womens’ reproductive organs?
>>43705560Yes and Matt Walsh is a psyop and pedophile
>>43705560Today I will remind them
>>43705560We all know, Mattilda.
>>43705560I want to have strong hair. A woman is usually smaller than a man. A woman is allowed to be weak and vulnerable. Some males have some of these characteristics and if they can pass this women they can live as women. It doesn't make them really women but they live as women so they're socially women
>>43705560>Do you have womens’ reproductive organs?Yeah like three of them in my freezer. Why?
>>43705560What is a woman in a post modern death of big ideas society where reproduction not only isn't encouraged anymore, but often actively shunned?
>>43705713This
>>43705560A woman is whatever looks like a woman to me. Why do we need to complicate things further? I'm not a fucking philosopher.
xy = male
i look like a woman and live my life as one. i don't really care about defining what a woman is in an abstract sense because i live that experience in a real sense. someone saying 'but you are male' is irrelevant to me as it doesn't change anything about my life, and irl nobody would say that to me anyway. people instinctively understand why i am a woman without needing to engage in strange abstracted debate
>>43705560
>>43706618you look like a man and are lying online for cloutsomehow people here view "looking like a woman" as a huge accomplishment and trade the self-accolade as a status symbol
>>43706637Sorry, you can't gt rep points are up votes on this board
>>43705560Why does Matt Walsh focus so heavily on trannies, instead of Jews?Why has /pol/ gone from calling out the JQ and liking traps to obsessing over trannies all day?I wonder (((why)))?
>>43706637i am not lying, its just true. its really hard to have these conversations when you are not given the legitimacy required to have them. as in, if you can simply say>what you say is not realthen its clear this is nothing to do with discussing what a woman is, and is more about performative disgust directed at trannies. >somehow people here view "looking like a woman" as a huge accomplishment and trade the self-accolade as a status symbolyep its weird as passing is much easier than people care to admit
>>43706660you offer no convincing evidence of your outrageous claimsthe odds you are an autistic male who looks uncanny, not female, just off, except at certain angles is MUCH higher
>>43706679You have the serious problem with your gender image. Now why do you want to make other people have the same problem you have?
You retarded faggots claim "wE cAn AlWaYs TeLl" yet it's always cishons you're assaulting in the restrooms.
>>43706679i mean for a start i think you would not accept whatever evidence i might offer as again you do not grant me legitimacy, i'm not allowed to enter into this conversation with the assumption of good faith. more over i have nothing to prove lol, plenty of people without the derangement you suffer from will read what i post and understand it is likely to be true because passing is really not that unusual or rare. anyone other than those who hate us (or themselves) know this.which is useful actually as it makes passing even easier lol like pls do go on imagining we all look male, it lowers the bar a lot when people don't know trans women pass well
>>43706739you seem insane
>>43706739Because trans people are not real women and never will be no amount of delusion in your head will change that.
>>43706618> life is meaningless to me so i going to project that into others.
Most cis women don't like women
>>43708257this
>>43705560According to trannies, gender is just vibes.
>>43706618You actually don't live that experience in a real sense. You are delusional.
>>43708347and sexual orientation
>>43706610A wise man once said"Look, buddy. I'm straight. That means whatever makes my dick hard is a woman, faggot!"
>>43708347What do you expect from mentally fuck people.
>>43706618There is more to being a women then playing pretty princess
doesn’t Matt Walsh think a woman is as young as 13 IDGAF what this creep thinks
>>43708642kids can enjoy sex and pregnancy and marriage
>>43705738He's right tho.
>>43708642Biologically you're an adult once your puberty is done
>count holes in body>???>you know the difference between ganders now
>>43706618Lmao at all these chuds being mad at you. Happy you're living your life well, I hope it stays that way 4 u
>>43708707>say obvious lies>get called out>haha u mad
>>43705560Gender/sex is chromosomal. We have no issue recognizing that about animals but somehow are expected to think different about humans? Now that doesn't change the fact that it's fine for people to choose to live as the other gender if they feel better that way, and that dysphoria is real and better treated with transition
>>43708714>Go to the trans board>Attempt to bully trans women thinking you're kicking down >Trans women don't give a shit what you think You're pathetic. Imagine trying to bully one of the most discriminated against demographics and failing.
hi chuddy! here is a relevant hazbin hotel image for your post.
>>43708727this
>>43709237i love you
>>43705560Modern neuroscience research has increasing been able to empirically demonstrate the existence of a neurological gender identity, and that it is that neurological gender identity that is the prime mover in determining a person's gender. Trolls and right wingers will ignore this because it doesn't support their bigotry, but the facts don't care about their feelings.
>>43709615here is a relevant hazbin hotel image for that response. :)
>>43705560>Do you have womens’ reproductive organs?So biological women who have had a hysterectomy no longer count as women?
>>43709780they still lack y chromosomes in most of their cells, unlike you
>>43705560Didn't read thread or full OP. To understand the man in the picture, look up a photo of him with no beard. That's what he is under his costume of being "based and trad". Also he would be on his knees for gock in a heartbeat. Probably wore lingerie under his little goy suit that his massa Shapiro makes him wear.
A woman is an adult human who's primary sex hormone is estrogen.
>>43709977If her body naturally produces estrogen as it's primary sex hormone. Women don't need to inject estrogen, their bodies produce it naturally. Trying to subvert nature is where trannies are wrong, and will never be women.
>>43710007There are a multitude of reasons for cis women to inject estrogen, the main reason I can think of off the top of my head is to alleviate menopausal symptoms, which is quite literally subverting nature.
>>43710022No that's fixing a medical issue found in the female population. Men who take estrogen are doing it for superficial aesthetic reasons, likely as part of a sexual fetish.
>>43710044What medical issue? Menopause is completely normal. And gender dysphoria is also a medical issue that has proven time and time again through research that the highest success rate in alleviation is medical transition.
>>43710065Menopause is a physical ailment that causes physical pain and discomfort. 'Gender dysphoria' is a mental health issue and not something we can observe or quantify. We treat mental illness with psych meds, not with sex hormones.
>>43709764vox is so hot i want him to broadcast his signal deep inside me
>>43710132here is a relevant hazbin hotel image for that response.
>>43705560Anything that looks and soundsnlike one
>>43709780They are women there biologicaly created by nature to have baby there body is made for that something the male body can't do by natural reason.
>>43705560>>43708651
>>43710104Menopause is not a physical ailment, it is a symptom of aging, and is completely natural. Also, gender dysphoria can and has been observed in humans, through the monitoring of behavior. And yet again, hormone therapy and other medical measures have proven to be more effective in the case of gender dysphoria.
>>43710065You mean fabricated research
>>43710615A very bold accusation to give to decades of research by respected universities and scientists. Do you have any clear cut proof?
>>43710637>appeal to authority
>>43710599Again fabricated facts created by bias people for agenda Dysphoria is not curable by promoting your delusion is curable by sending you to a mental health hospital.
>>43710637People can get pay to fabricate fact for agenda and university can make data to feed agenda. People have motives for this shit good or bad.
Big and stationary gamets: woman Small and moving gamets: man
>>43705560Pointless bait post butThis would have more weight if Matt Walsh an especially good example of a man but he's about one flannel away from opening up a millenial burger shop.The answer "adult human female" isn't a more convincing one than anything most other people can generate, since biological sex is also about as rigid a concept as gender is.What matters with trans people is whether we are perceived as women or not. If we are percieved as women, then we (outside of specific medical forms of discrimination, where we have our own issues) are treated as women and receive the same discrimination (ie: misogyny). As such, we require similar safeguarding measures (mostly talking about semi-passoids or passoids here).We also have explicit transphobia as an issue, which again, has nothing to do with whether we are women or not, but entirely to do with the presumption that anyone with dysphoria must somehow be lesser (among various other issues too numerous to detail)Personally, I don't really care if someone thinks I'm a woman or not, I call myself a bisexual because I am one. You can call me a man, but I'm clearly distinct to the societal image of what a man is in many ways.I just find the question non-productive since it doesn't improve society in any way to answer it, even in the ways conservatives want. If a gigapassing youngshit says "oh i'm just a man" that doesn't change her lived experience which is fundamentally closer to a womans than a mans.
>>43710658No one is promoting a cure to gender dysphoria, simply an alleviation of the symptoms.>>43710704I know how research fraud works. But these are baseless accusations.
>>43710658Dysphoria is cured by passing as your desired sex, this is not possible for everyone so yes, for many dysphoria is incurable, however it is also far more manageable the closer someone gets to their desired sex and no one has come up with a more reliable treatment than transitioning.Saying>your delusion is curable by sending you to a mental health hospital.Means nothing because dysphoria is not a delusional condition (that would be a dysmorphia, which can be comorbid but usually manifests in trans women as believing we are more masculine-looking than the reality).Dysphoria is not the belief that one literally is the opposite sex, it's the mental condition of feeling distress from not being the opposite sex. I have not seen ever a single credible suggestion for a cure that would be administered in a mental health facility, the reference to them normally is more the view that sending us to such places would cure *you* of your irrational discomfort at seeing trans people exist. As such there is no reason for any of us to listen to your vague suggestions of a cure.
>>43710738> i don't like reality so i denie it by pretending nothing is real.
>>43705560Not me! :/
>muh reality!!!>wait noo passing isnt reality because... uh.. the way your genes fused with each other!! is le bad!!! uh its the realilty i was talking bout, who cares if nobody actually checks it
>>43710784Lobotomy. You're a former straight guy having gay sex while pretending you're a lesbian. Im not vibing a legitimate medical condition present in you. You're a man who decided to join a fraternity of chasers and trannies that perform homosexuality while claiming is something else.
>>43710784Dysphoria is not real is made up nonses you people created to feed your delusion and sociaty is not going to play pretend with you.
>>43710861>>43710942>seething
>>43710794Social constructs aren't "not real" Anyone who thinks that's what that term means is an idiot who hasn't done the reading. Social constructs still get applied in function and affect people's day-to-day lives but on a basic level notions of binary sex are largely constructed by how people think things should be (based on the common experience), not how they actually are, and since we're a relatively intelligent species I think we should have the capacity to act based on how things actually are, not how we wish them to be.>>43710861I'm bisexual, and I've been bisexual all my life (literally already said this ITT >>43710738 ). Literally slept with guys before I ever slept with a woman.I'm not going to lobotomise myself when I can just transition, that would be retarded and turn me into a barely functional state dependent, which is far worse than living with moderate dysphoria from an inability to successfully transition.>>43710942To quote >>43710794>i don't like reality so i denie it by pretending nothing is real.Like you can say it's not real, but that doesn't change the fact it is. I don't ask anything of society, read my previous replies (i mean ffs I left my trip on use ctrl + F if you're not too stupid to know how to keyword search).You are way too assured in your view that I somehow care what society thinks when my decision to start HRT was based in a realisation that the approval of cis men meant nothing to me (because I'm a lateshit and figured out how to do typical masculinity eventually)
>>43710784I don't feel discomfort toward you weirdos and feel sad for you that you truly believe that you born in the wrong body and you made up all this Dysphoria bullshit to feed that delusion in your head.
>>43710861>>43710942Why are you so hostile to transgender people. Why don't you go to find a different board where you can be with your own kind? You don't belong here!
>>43711049lgb people exist
>>43711065>>43711026why are aids ridden faggots not realizing their delusion of mutual masturbation being called "sex" is as bad, if not worse than "tranny delusion"?
>>43711026I think you very clearly do. Induced sadness is a form of discomfort.I believe I had the wrong puberty for my condition because I think if i'd been a gigayoungshit on E I probably wouldn't be dysphoric."born in the wrong body" is a weird one, it would imply it's possible to be born in the right body but ultimately there's no real fix either way, you get the body you get and will feel a greater/lesser amount of discomfort around it depending on any number of factorsDysphoria even conceptually existed well before I was born, so there's no way I made it up personally, and if it wasn't a real thing then what is your alternate explanation as to why I feel distress about appearing as a phenotypic male?
>>43711049You force you make belief down people throat what do you expect from sociaty to accept you fuck no. You may thing your born in the wrong body but we the rest of sociaty are not going to play pretend with you.
>>43711093you sound homophobic
>>43711108Go away! We're not bothering you, so leave us alone
>>43711135gimme a dedicated gay board where the topic isn't restricted to porn, would never bother you again
>>43711049This 4chan retarded not your echo chamber go back to blue sky.>>43711135
>>43708437More like fetishes actually
Transgenderism is a fetish to be the opposites sex i figure out.
>>43711108Why is your English getting worse the more replies you make? Take your time lad, don't get too emotional, and maybe your English won't go to shit.I had cis people's worldview shoved down my throat, so why should I accept their view?.If the cis norm requires that any deviation is violently abused and suppressed through rituals of power/humiliation (yes, I'm paraphrasing Bell Hooks), then why should I respect it?.I have been beaten, degraded, sexually assaulted, etc., all by cis people in the name of upholding the sanctity of bioessentialism (the belief that being born male means you must stay male and be a man forever in the most hetero/cisnormative sense), and cowering back and begging for their approval would be, well, cowardice. It was also something I tried for years out of fear (hence lateshit) that resulted in my body being somewhat permanently mutilated.
>>43710716Yes. Exactly this. Woman = Female Man = Male
>>43711279Why do we need separate words then, why not just say males and females all the time?
>>43710716One can lack a sex?Are you able to prove you have exclusively small/large gametes?Are you both a woman and a man until you check your gametes?
>>43711256 Is call auto correct Your the one being emotional by making made up experience about being abuse, rape or humiliated in public we all know you just another fat keyboard warrior living in your parent basement drinking soda and 300 pound of cheeseburguer. This is 4chan we are just fat people in a basement trolling each other anyone taking this board seriously is retarded.
>>43710583TRVKE
>>43711593Bump
>>43711485I'm 170cm, 67.7kg as of this morning. I've attached a screenshot from my easy run today (which, yeah, you'll claim it's fake, but whatever).>This is 4chan we are just fat people in a basement trolling each other anyone taking this board seriously is retarded.You should learn to care for yourself more than to exist in a disgusting body, in disgusting conditions, arguing for the sake of ironic trolling.Like, I've met people IRL off this board and sure it's an anonymous (or mostly anon) forum, but unlike shitter or other sites, it's also not infested with bot/ai slop but rather actual people who (because of it's very nature) are going to be more inclined to express actual views without fear of reproach. No matter how schizo they are.And if your actual view is "i'm a loser fat fuck arguing with other loser fat fucks and that's a good use of my time" then I just think that's a bit pathetic.Idfk, if I get schizo, I don't know when everyone became so fucking irony poisoned, they'd see a kid getting raped in front of them and make an Epstein joke because "muh ironic humor bro!", it's like everyone wants to live in an ugly, shitty, demoralising world forever and it get's to a stage where you wonder if Mike Ma / Ted K / etc had a point about burning it all and starting over. And I say that as the fucking tranny in this convo.
>>43711673If you think being in 4chan is bad use of my time why are you here the same thing apply to you hypocrit.
>>43710583good image thank you anon
>>43711791I am not using 4chan the way you use 4chan. I mainly use this trip in sig. As I said already, I've literally met people irl off here.I think because you're ESL, you've not really understood what's being said. What I am saying is that I think you are wasting your time by using 4chan in the way you have described your own usage of it.For me, I lost 30+kg using sig, met people I consider good friends off here, learned how to DIY hrt off here, etc. Even when I used to post in trap threads on /b/, it was nice to feel desirable in some way during a time when I felt pretty hideous and dysphoric.I used to (mostly) lurk on /k/ and /out/ as well, and I got a fair amount out of those just by reading posts.
Matt Walsh touched my pp and called me a woman
>>43711855Stop pretending to be me faggot lmao
>>43705560I'm not saying trannies are right (they aren't) but I really don't think we should take biology lessons from a guy who defends creationism
>>43705560here is the answer:
>>43712692I'm not, I didn't learn you existed until after I'd been using this trip in /sig/ (where you don't post) for years (or since 2023 anyway).From everything I've seen/heard about you from other people, I kinda want nothing to do with you and find it frustrating that I've had to clarify to people before that I'm not you, it's just unfortunate that I forgot to turn it off when I originally replied ITT, so figured I may as well leave it on.I mean pretty fucking obvious since I'm not really using your trip that I'm not you anyway but oh well I cba reclarifying to people I know that I'm using a diff name on here.
trans women are men
Matt walsh is a woman
>>43710716>>43711279You're getting closerA woman is manufacturedShe is:- assigned female- is near assuredly female as a result, or more proximal to and thus a better assignment from what we know about intersex cases- is raised in a society as an assigned female- doesn't opt for he/him pronouns and the transition into the transman genderTheir "gender" takes years to develop
>>43712787it also translates to wicked/evil/mischief
>>43711855>>43711673This isn't me guys is just a schizo.
>>43713172I knew you where lying you piece of shit you just another fat keyboard warrior.
>>43715335repetitious behavior is a hallmark of autism
>>43711205If only I liked sex or didn't view horniness as an obstacle in my way. It almost wouldn't dismantle that entire view
>>43705560If Matt Walsh can agree that a person with Swyer Syndrom is a man, and that it would be fine for text books to say that that some men are born with a uterus and can carry a fetus and give birth or need an abortion for their pregnancy, and that that version of sexuality must be taught to all people, then I do accept this version of binary. But that outlook denies the visible reality of sexual dimorphism and the entire science of behavioral biology and I doubt an ignorant chud paid soley to distract from the crimes of his own pedophilia ring would do such a thing, and would rather play dumb and ignore the evidence reality presents to him because he is paid not too. He should be given a free train ride and a shower just like his boss, Ben "women can't enjoy sex" Shapiro.
