[a / b / c / d / e / f / g / gif / h / hr / k / m / o / p / s / t / u / v / vg / vm / vmg / vr / vrpg / vst / w / wg] [i / ic] [r9k / s4s / vip] [cm / hm / lgbt / y] [3 / aco / adv / an / bant / biz / cgl / ck / co / diy / fa / fit / gd / hc / his / int / jp / lit / mlp / mu / n / news / out / po / pol / pw / qst / sci / soc / sp / tg / toy / trv / tv / vp / vt / wsg / wsr / x / xs] [Settings] [Search] [Mobile] [Home]
Board
Settings Mobile Home
/lgbt/ - Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, & Transgender


Thread archived.
You cannot reply anymore.


[Advertise on 4chan]


File: 1776091913456841.png (623 KB, 740x774)
623 KB PNG
If males are the violent, aggressive gender then why do lesbian couples report higher domestic violence rates (and before anyone says "men did it", roughly 65-68% cite being abused by ONLY females) and have a much higher divorce rate than heterosexual couples and especially gay male couples (which have the lowest divorce rate and domestic violence rate)?
>>
>>43710209
Because both trads and feminists like painting the idea of pure innocent women who can only be victims
>>
>>43710228
Kinda sounds like what evil people do!
>>
>>43710209
because the lesbians that do domestic violence act manly?
>>
>>43710257
Acting manly would mean not beating the shit out of your partner! Once again, both heterosexual couples and gay male couples have significantly lower incidences of domestic violence (29% and 26% respectively)!
>>
>>43710209
why do violent misogynists always avatarfag as women

like your anime gril wouldnt be any different from regular women irl
>>
File: 1775347037455190.png (1.23 MB, 850x1172)
1.23 MB PNG
>>43710305
I don't understand how I'm being a violent misogynist by stating simple facts? Maybe lesbians shouldn't beat the shit out of each other and then their domestic violence rates would be lower!
>>
>>43710305
>Violent misogynistic
>Only stated a known fact
>>
>straight couple
woman starts bickering, man tries to calm her down while containing his emotions
>lesbian couple
both women bicker at each other, never side feels the need to contain their emotions
>gay male couple
neither side bickers
>>
>>43710305
Lmao you're immediately playing victim and throwing insults. And btw OP isn't making it up, I read that research too
>>
>>43710209
Being violent is in cis people's DNA obviously
>>
>>43710209
because only women can be abused physically
>>
>>43710324
ragebait

>>43710326
its a troll posting a retarded ass myth and youre ignoring my point

>>43710349
three replies already waow the mald. you didnt read anything sorry. you only saw an internet statistic and took it at face value because you're a media illiterate troglodyte. insane you think anyone is going to engage with you on this goofy ass troll bit
>>
>>43710324
words are literal violence, similar to how trannyhood is literal rape
>>
>>43710392
terfs aren't feminists tho
>>
>>43710392
Lmao gaslighting
>>
There's nothing discouraging lesbians from reporting domestic abuse, its usually much more complicated with hetero women.

From my experience with lesbian divorcees it seems like they just don't hang on to relationships longer then necessary, if you've both changed over they years they are more ok just moving on it seems.
>>
File: 1777073277457120.jpg (50 KB, 615x608)
50 KB JPG
>>43710389
Interesting rebuttal anon! I'm sure you have more recent, high-quality evidence that supersedes mine that you can show?
https://stacks.cdc.gov/view/cdc/12362
>>
>>43710389
But you already engaged and it's not trolling
>>
>>43710305
I only became a woman after it became clear to me that women were never, ever going to stop harassing and abusing me for being a feminine man, whether they were doing it directly or goading men into doing it on their behalf.
>>
>>43710268
Also, feminine males have the lowest violent crime rates of any group.
>>
>>43710389
https://www.ncdsv.org/uploads/1/4/2/2/142238266/cdc_nisvs_2010findingsonvictimizationbysexualorientation_factsheet_1-2013.pdf
>>
>>43710405
isnt that what the f stands for
>>
>>43710500
retard
>>
alot of male on female abuse goes unreported. this is not new information.
>>
>>43710508
A lot of female on male abuse also goes unreported! Arguably even more than male on female!
>>
I'm tired of being abused by women and being forced to blame innocent men
>>
>>43710508
They're not ready for this one... In relationships, in public, and in the home with family.
>>
>>43710508
Way more the other way
>>
>>43710529
And you think the other way is different? It's way more taboo for het men to report abuse, they aren't taken seriously or they get made fun of
>>
File: HErwLGnagAAdLla.jpg (7 KB, 227x222)
7 KB JPG
A huge amount of transgender people were abused by women (especially their mother) and denying female domestic violence only serves to silence those victims even more than society already does, btw! Throwing other trans people under the bus so you can act misandrist and appeal to cis women makes you evil btw!
>>
>>43710429
>>43710479
i'm not engaging with you past this.
>Estimates for sex of perpetrator
of rape for other groups (lesbian
women, gay and bisexual men)
were based upon numbers too
small to calculate a reliable
estimate and, therefore, are
not reportable.
>The majority of lesbian, bisexual,
and heterosexual women
(85.2%, 87.5%, and 94.7%,
respectively) who experienced
sexual violence other than rape
in their lifetime reported having
only male perpetrators.
>The lifetime prevalence of rape
by any perpetrator was:
>- Lesbian – 13.1%
>- Bisexual – 46.1%
>- Heterosexual – 17.4%
oh and timmy, polls are incredibly wishy-washy anyways. to reiterate bc i know ur slow
>the majority of lesbian victims reported male perpetrators
imagine being as braindead as you. your own 'evidence'. i feel sorry for your parents

>>43710435
>>43710430
malding
>>
>>43710326
Facts == violence against women
>>
>>43710209
i often wonder of the handful of lesbians i know, and their marriages, about behind closed doors what its like. i kinda have a clear idea of one of them because we're pretty close, but you still never know. i guess thats true for all couples. unless you like live next to them or with them
>>
>>43710630
this is why I will always side with cis men and other trans women
jeep or hussy, I don't care
natal males are my people
>>
>>43710673
>>the majority of lesbian victims reported male perpetrators
Are you perhaps bad at reading? It says 67% report primarily FEMALE victims.
>>
File: 1773612509562093.jpg (239 KB, 1125x1211)
239 KB JPG
>>43710209
>>43710228
>>43710257
bullshit statistic
>>
>>43710544
>It's way more taboo for het men to report abuse, they aren't taken seriously or they get made fun of
I agree but given history I'm not willing to believe that the abuse was worse or more prevalent for cis men. They definitely took advantage of their position for a long time in multiple parts of the world.
>>
>>43710705
Wow... You and that other anon are really, really dumb.
So two thirds of lesbian domestic violence was female on female (that's what that statistic says)... That means the majority were female...
>>
>>43710697
She's making shit up. Foids always gaslight, they always need to be victims, it's how they control
>>
>>43710720
Yeah you're right, I don't know why I'd bother arguing clearly established facts with people. You can't argue facts from any angle that is in good faith.
>>
>>43710209
Because lesbians are manly
>>
>>43710783
But gay male relationships (where there is, by definition, only men involved) have the lowest incidence of domestic violence? How does that fit into your paradigm? And before you say it, feminine gay men like you see on TV are a minority, the vast majority of gay men are masc4masc!
>>
>>43710718
arrg me boy what in the mutherlubbin saint marys grave did you think was you gonna catch with that pathetic bait get off me boat now before i throw ye ashore
>>
>>43710815
gays are girly
>>
File: HE2leY2bwAAVNou.jpg (349 KB, 1920x1920)
349 KB JPG
>>43710830
>said from the ice chest along with the other fish
>>
>>43710830
It literally says two third (67.4%) were female
>>
>>43710911
Wrong! Sorry about you being retarded anon, that must be very hard for you.
>>
File: 1716342509150906.gif (27 KB, 70x144)
27 KB GIF
Fighting between women is the first resort for many females, whereas for many men, hitting your partner is actually a big no-no and takes some type of build up.
>>
>>43710911
>gays are girly
There's literally an epidemic of steroid use among gays because being masculine is so important. This may be a shocker to you but gay men are attracted to masculinity. Gay men don't mimic straight couples like lesbians do.
>>
>>43710961
Men learn to regulate their emotions
Women do not
>>
>>43710209
you can keep posting this statistic however many times you want and it's still not gonna be true
>>
>>43710980
>>There's literally an epidemic of steroid use among gays because being masculine is so important.
They're coping
>This may be a shocker to you but gay men are attracted to masculinity.
Masculine men are straight and won't fuck them sadly.
>>
>>43711171
Wrong.
>>43711023
>you can keep saying 2+2=4 however many times you want and it's still not gonna be true
>>
"Domestic violence" between women is just slaps that don't do any damage
>>
>>43711464
Will you please shut up
>>
>>43710209
Because men were so violent that society had to hardcore ingrain the idea that beating women was horrid into every males skulls since birth just to get them to beat women less frequently
>>
>>43711490
Are women more likely to be killed by their female partner or male partner?
>>
>>43711494
what if we taught people that no one should hit anyone instead of things like
>>43711464
>>
>>43711533
That would be preferable, but sadly I doubt society ever will.
>>
>>43711618
so then how about we, i dunno, do what we can by not pretending females can never do any harm to anyone ever
>>
>>43710209
Gay men have lower test than the average man and lesbians have higher test than average woman
>>
>>43710209
Shut your mouth! Women are perfect angelic lesbians of pure AGP light, while men are foaming at the mouth in dark alley ways waiting to rape.
>>
>>43710209
65% of 44% is 28% which is 10% less than the intimate partner violence rates of straight women (39%) and that's not even accounting for lgbt people being way more likely to report violence than straight people
>>
>>43711704
I wasnt saying women cant do any harm, all im saying is that men have a much higher biological tendency to do harm to the point where society had to heavily socialize males from birth just to not do that
>>
>>43711704
>b-but women also do harm!
93% of people hospitalized due to domestic violence are women. 80% of intimate partner homicides are men killing their female partners
>>
>>43711901
>whipping out the crime statistics
What do you feel about niggers, by chance?
>>
>>43710209
hoes mad that they're never getting any of my six figure income
because i like men
>>
let this thread fucking die
>>
>>43710209
It sucks that this well is so poisoned that we can't genuinely discuss things like this. I've heard in isolated gender situations that men will kill each other at first when forced together, only to grow to tolerate and support one another. Women supposedly experience the opposite effect, where the beginning days are near-utopian and supportive, but social structures break down violently in the end.

But you can never talk about it without some dipshit going "haha the womynz are just stupid". There might be something worth actually observing that's rooted with connections we're not aware yet, but annoying presumptions ruin all forms of said earnest observation. Sucks.
>>
>>43712364
>haha the womynz are just stupid
well i mean they *are* stupid
because their moms raise them not to be self-sufficient but to be dependent
>>
>>43711859
>Biological
Are you sure you want to open that can of worms?
>>
>>43710980
>Gay men don't mimic straight couples like lesbians do.


I sure wish they did, I might have not needed to transition!!!
>>
How do t4t gaydens and t4t transbians compare?
Are pooners less violent than cis lesbians since they're men? Or are they more violent since they're fembrained but stronger (+ roid rage)?
And similarly for transbians are they more violent since they're women but even more mentally ill? Or less since they are malebrained?
>>
>>43710209
Because there's a reporting gap. Women who are locked in a domestic situation with men often dont report their abuse because it would be worse for them if they do report it, there's little point in escaping your abuser if it means he kills you or you wind up suffering worse abuse on the street.
t. a straight tranny
>>
>>43712822
Lesbians still more violent than gay men
>>
>>43712822
You're right, there is a reporting gap! Female on male violence is extremely underreported, with some estimates being as low as 5% of cases being reported (female cases being reported hovers around 25-30%, meanwhile!). Additionally, of the men who HAVE reported domestic violence, 97% reported their ONLY abuser(s) were female!
>>
>>43713200
Women beat up on feminine men because they know they can get away with it because society largely condones female-on-male violence. Most males grow out of bullying upon reaching adulthood. Females do not.
>>
>>43714190
Also has to be stated that male bullying is oftentimes a peacocking behaviour meant to draw the foid gaze to the inherent physical hierarchy.
I went to an all-male highschool and saw 0 bullying and it is my belief that any man on man bullying that occurs is a learned behaviour actively encouraged by foids.
>>
>>43714463
I believe this
Women cause problems for fun
>>
>>43714190
Women censure feminine men as much as men do. Women want the benefit of being coddled by the patriarchy without being hurt by it.
>>
bump
>>
>>43710209
cis-lesbians will never admit there's a problem that s why it will never be fixed and their abuse stats will stay stagnant for the rest of human history.
>>
>>43710209
Those lesbians experienced violence in the hands of men.


Also guns exist to equalize power but 90 of murder, violence and rape is done by men. Why do men want to play this game when it ends up looking way worse for them..?
>>
>>43710209
They don’t this has been debunked to death
Kill yourself
>>
>>43710451
But thats not true at all. masculine females (ftm) have the lowest crime rate of any group, they are also most likely to be victims of rape and domestic violence

Feminine males (mtf) have criminality more like cis men where ftms have criminality thats even lower than cis women
>>
>>43710421
Exactly, every bottom I know has some dahmer tier ex story but it’s not like calling the cops would do anything but get them laughed at, so the rates are “lower”.
And gay men don’t even do marriage in any real sense. They still have other partners and it’s more of a business/social thing.
>>
File: vFbDarU.gif (487 KB, 500x200)
487 KB GIF
>>43710209
Because they only became lesbians after being abused by a man. NEXT!
>>
>>43719118
Ftms also have the highest iq and the lowest suicide rate
FTM master race
Force inject all women with testosterone and kill all men
>>
>>43710705
So lesbians relationship is the safest relationship for females? Nice!!!
>>
>>43718964
The problem being that they experience less violence in their wlw relationship than hetero or bisexual women? Why wpuld that be a problem
>>
>>43719140
The majority of lesbians report having only female abusers THOUGH.
>>
>>43710209
because lesbian relationships are like a BPD beam of light trapped between two mirrors, they're both bound to break
>>
>>43710209
because bitches are crazy
>t.cislez
>>
>>43710508
99% of female abuse goes unreported, they'll laugh at you or even arrest you after you got your ass kicked. It's not a crime when women do it.
>>
>>43710715
>They definitely took advantage of their position for a long time in multiple parts of the world.
If we're gonna go off perceived mistakes of people around the world in whatever timeframe I'm just gonna go out in the street and start killing everyone because someone they know did something bad somewhere in time and space. Or maybe you're just a retard, that's more likely.
>>
>>43711464
You know what's in the kitchen? KNIVES!
>>
>>43710209
tldr
>>
>>43710209
>and have a much higher divorce rate than heterosexual couples
You poor fool... Men don't divorce, we cheat
>>
>>43710940
Yes, out of the 40 something percent. Giving 29. Math.
>>
>>43710705
Pic betrays poor literacy. Nowhere is it stated or implied that 32.6% of lesbian DV victims where ONLY abused by males, that's just feminist cope.



[Advertise on 4chan]

Delete Post: [File Only] Style:
[Disable Mobile View / Use Desktop Site]

[Enable Mobile View / Use Mobile Site]

All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties. Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.