>Be me>Hear about myrrh-streaming Christian icons>Look into people's experiences with them and see that they seem probable>Start heavily considering the validity of the Christian faith>Break into panic and tears realizing that I'd have to give up so many things that I love in life in order to appease a god that I don't entirely agree with the morals ofI am at a very confusing point in life that I never thought I'd be at.Is it possible to be a Christian and be a transbian without going against God's word? Am I doomed to never be allowed the joy of romantic love again?
>>43710753Im a Catholic transbian anon.Why couldn't you be?
>>43710753>Hear about myrrh-streaming Christian icons>Look into people's experiences with them and see that they seem probable>Start heavily considering the validity of the Christian faithDo you have a learning disability?
>>43710753Don't become protestantoid or evangelicaloid. The Bible is allegorical
I mean you probably would have to only romantically involve yourself with cis women if you wanna take the most hard-line interpretation of the text
>>43710795I could've phrased that better, I meant that after finding out about the icons I started believing in Christianity more
>>43710871And if you were Indian, you would fall for the Ganesha milk drinking statues thing. You're gullible.
>>43710789Well I always see Christians, orthodox especially, advocating for people to exclusively follow traditional gender norms of their assigned sexesAnd Jesus taught that in order to be saved, one must primarily have faith in Him and secondarily keep God's lawAnd even if transitioning wasn't a sin, if I am female in God's eyes, God strictly warns against lying with those of the same sex. And marriage is understood in the Bible to be between a man and a woman
>>43710789are you dating anyone or are you just going to be abstinent
>>43710938If you have proof of their falsehood I would be overjoyed to receive an explanation
>>43711007As I said, you're a gullible rube. I know the type, they're in all religions and all have their pet miracle stories.
>>43710955you can be a christian transbian if you rep as a straight family man
>>43711001I am abstinent but I would like to marry a woman...But if God hasn't chosen that life for me then I should trust Him.
>>43710955It not being a sin and being a woman is this aspect aren't analogous
>>43711096You can't change your sex trannies would have to marry cis women still to not be a sin.
>>43710753consider irish catholicism or whatever. tbhon im not very religious these days but try to find uhhhh. whatshername uhhhh claire on the 'tok. shes passing and christian and based so on and so forth
>>43710753No, you told Him that his creation wasn’t perfect. You succumbed to the seductive whispers of the devil promising you a solution to all your woes if you reject God and you agreed.
>>43711183How is it rejecting his creation as perfect? What quality of estrogen makes it unique in the rejection of his creation compared to anything else you put in your body. Everything you eat effects what genes are transcribed just like estrogen does. Are people who take supplements also rejecting the perfection of his creation?
>>43711137I don't understand what you mean
>>43710789Can we be friends btw? Or at least talk about this more, my Discord is emanylrig404_92978
>>43710821How would the Bible being strictly allegorical upend those options but not the other denominations?
I'm not good enough for God's love
>>43711749You still have time to become good enough to belong in the Kingdom of Heaven, and God does love you, go to your local church and inquire today
>>43711957I don't think I'd belong there among all those good and normal people, I'd just be disrupting it for everyone else by being so out of place
>>43710753im not a christian but i do believe in god and i can understand the logic behind the catholic church's condemnation of sex change operation. ultimately it comes from the desire to respect the integrity of god's creation and this includes the human order that sustains itself by sexual reproduction>https://press.vatican.va/content/salastampa/en/bollettino/pubblico/2024/04/08/240408c.htmli cant help but believe that their concerns are fundamentally well-founded. someone the other day said that the catholic church only was thinking about gender ideology and were not thinking about gender dysphoria. this may have been partially the case and we do see in the following article a cardinal suggesting that great care may need to be taken in cases of extreme level of dysphoria that lean into the realm of suicidal ideation>https://www.ncronline.org/vatican/vatican-news/cardinal-dignity-lies-heart-churchs-stance-genderwith that said however, i think in the original vatican pronouncement, there is still a sense of respect that is important for the body as god's gift. overall bodily integrity, and the integrity of the person as well as the integrity of the whole human order must all be figured in otherwise things would turn into a transhumanist satanism. in the view of overall integrity, why should aberration in the mind lead to bodily mutilation? even when one could say there was an abnormality in the brain leading to dysphoria (as that person brought up), what is the sense in trying to subordinate the overall integrity of the body to such an aberration? we know through brain scans that an enlarged amygdala correlates to violence done to others, but one would not validate such impulses. and moreover, in emphasizing aberrations in the brain, there is a danger of falling into mechanical materialism, not recognizing the formative principle which guides the development of the whole organismto tackle these questions, there must be a new theology of the body nd cosmos
>>43712497i think here it is important for us to turn ourselves towards the cultivation of wisdom, honour, humility. the cosmos is a uni-verse, it is one turn. as such it is a totality that is always in revolution. hence what is integral in actuality can not remain static, but must incorporate motion into itself. this leads to a view of god's energies that moves according the rhythmic pulses of processions and reversions .. even within this motion however, every energy-actuality even as it changes must also be recognized as part of a greater celestial order that is cosmos, an order that is itself unfolding. hence any change of the body must be reconciled with the greater unfolding of the world and of spirit itself. from this perspective, with any sex change operation, it is important to align oneself w the logos, and make sure one's actions are aligned with the world itself. and in this process, it is also important to cultivate humility, and not view oneself as a god that is capable of rising above all of creation. one must always, in the course of change, keep watch, and keep communion, and there must a fear of the numinousity of change ..idk if what i have wrote here is enough or makes sense .. i am just throwing out ideas
>>43711153that's what i meant retard
>>43711396Many others at least see the old testament as allegories or faery tales. Catholicism center on the new testament and the main church has been moving away of the judgmental positions (been gay isnt a sin, but they will not marry you).Orthodoxs on the other hand are special.
Yes you can, but its a specific kind of christian. Its knowing Christopher Columbus is the Anti-Christ. This is actually a really old one ~500 years, super simple just use Columbus as the opposite of what you want yourself and your Jesus to be, that only just now has abandoned the rule of two
>Is being a transbian Christian possible?This is a question for a priest. Not 4chan /lgbt/I'm willing to bet they are going to tell you to stop transitioning and abstain from gaysex forever, though.
>>43710821this>>43710955If you transition you would be required to keep both religious commandments for men and women. If you're also a Jew. There's none like that for heathens, at least in and serious form of (catholic) Christianity.t. episcopaltroon
>>43710955The idea of homosexuality and gay relationships as we understand them today literally didn't exist in the time the Bible was written. Marriages were exclusively arranged and organized as contractual obligations between the families and an expectation of reproductive labour for the married couple. The idea of marriage as a union between two people in love didn't exist, and would be seen as childish up until the Industrial Revolution. The idea of homosexuals as people who experience same sex attraction with desire to form healthy mutually loving relationships with people of the same sex didn't really exist until the Victorian age.The word from Paul's letters that are translated as refering to homosexuality literally didn't exist until Paul made them. The word he uses is something that combines the words boy and bedder. In Paul's time, this could have referred to anything from having sex with pagan temple prostitutes, a master raping his child slave, a philosopher fucking one of his students, etc. None of the relationships he would have been aware of were analogous to modern gay relationships. The context that books like Leviticus were written in was an even more tribal society, where marriages and relationships were even more strictly regulated and same sex relationships would have more clearly referred to foreign cultural or religious practices, rather than just two men or women that loved eachother.Meanwhile, Paul's condemnation of heterosexual marriage are fairly direct and clearly shows a belief that marriage, if it should be permitted at all, is a crutch for the true calling, a life of Christian celibacy. For some reason, Paul's attack on some forms of homosexual activity is seen as a condemnation of all gay relationships, but his condemnation of all marriages is often ignored.Tldr: there's clearer evidence of the authors of the Bible being against heterosexual marriage than homosexual ones.t Anglo-Catholic transbian
>>43710753Go to a quaker meeting.
>>43710753yes.... but your best option is to find a really liberal protestant church. also kinda avoid the larger Christian community
Will God hate me for wanting to change cosmetic things about myself like the usual tranny surgeries? I understand why mutilating and not having love for his creation is bad, but I don't know if I can live with the body I was given.
