Transphobia is actually proof that normies are insanely ableist Most of them see trannies as mentally ill people with delusions or something along those linesThey rarely say troons need mental health treatment or care to argue in favor of GD treatment other than gender reassignment, they really couldn't give a shit less about you getting "better" they're appalled by the fact they have to be in the presence of a mentally ill person They are disgusted by trannies because all they see is schizos and autistic retardsThey don't understand gender dysphoria and don't care to know Transphobia is just normalized ableism The majority of people despise the mentally ill but it's not considered socially "appropriate" to hate an autistic person for being autistic or a schizo for being schizo so they dump all their pent up hatred onto troonsTransphobia is great to them because not only are you allowed to rant about how much you hate queer people but you can also blatantly hate mentally ill people all you want
>>43723824If you haven't had SRS and you aren't working on getting it, you're not interested in being a woman. Instead you're interested in the social benefits of being a sort of third gender as a woman with a penis. That's the reality of why society is turning against you and I think it's valid.
>>43723860Only 1/10 SRS look decent instead of some horrendous shark biteI absolutely do not blame the troons who want to keep their dick The technology simply just isn't there yet
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Now that I think about it, there's a pretty big overlap between people who shit on trannies and people who shit on homeless people, and the latter is also socially acceptable to mock for their mental illness.
>>43724002It does seem a little strange, though, no? I know a fair amount of trans who lament and whine about their penis, but when it comes to do anything about it, suddenly there's lots of weird nonsense reasons to keep it.
>>43724411It's strange that people are unwilling to risk a decade's worth of savings on an experimental surgery with an extremely high rate of dissatisfaction, and high rates of complications among those old enough to be able to afford it (35+)?
>>43724411pay for mine then
>>43724505>>43724814Fine, I'll buy earplugs for the lamenting them. How fun.
>>43723824yeah it's because you're able to act on your delusions.imagine if being a schizo was normalized and being treated for it was socially frowned upon. there are then people in the streets assaulting each other and wigging out about gangstalkers and shit. and running up to people and yelling "I AM GOD!"that's how normies see you. as someone who needs treatment.
Just stop being associated with wanting third-world immigration and fent Floyd riots and maybe average people will view you favorably again. Probably not after overstepping like you have though.
>>43724833no winning with you retards lol
>>43724866This. And by treatment it means propper mental treatment, NOT some means to pretend you're something you never will be.
>>43724909>stop having billion dollar media apparatus control public perception of youokay I'll try
>>43723824lmfao with the way america is going, anytime wasted on hating trannies is just going to accelerate normie genocide. they already cant afford healthcare houses gas or groceries and it aint going to get better. theyre normies in america though so they deserve to genocide themselves while screaming about trannies imo
>>43723860There are men who are fine with having a pussy and woman who are fine with having a dick. It doesn't make them any less of the gender they identify as. You can just say you have a fetish for women with pussy rather than trying to shame those who don't want genital reassignment surgery. This isn't a breakfast diner where you have to watch your manners or your dad will hit you.
>>43723860I don't think it's valid. If anything, society should forgive me because I am an honest man. Trannies who pretend to be women and try to go stealth are literally preying on the gullibility of their neighbors. That's skinwalker shit.
>>43727206>SCAWY TWANNY SKINWALKERSYou sound like such a pussy LMAO
>>43727215you sound like you are too young for this website young lady
>>43724866The difference is that schizophrenics are dangerous. Trans people are not.
>>43727219You admit you're afraid of women and your comeback is that you think I'm too young. Are you young or old? I wonder if your wah wah brainworm is zoomer or boomer based.
>>43727229You are obviously trying to pick a fight with me because you can't make a serious argument against my position
>>43727206So when men pretend to be masculine men and circlejerk over how manly they are and not a fag it's ok but when they pretend to be a woman and get support from other trans women it's an issue?
>>43727245It's an issue to mislead people who don't know you are trans
>>43727243You're not making a serious argument. Your argument is>Ew trannies ickyThat's not an argument. That's a sign of stunted maturity. Why do I have to psychoanalyze you just to prove the obvious point that you're a massive pussy? Do you have brain damage too? Don't worry, anon. You're safe from trannies. In fact, I doubt any woman would touch you.
>>43727256okay I hope you feel better now that you got your frustrations off of your chest youngin
>>43727264I accept your concession. Have a wonderful rest of your day.
>>43727254Not being honest with myself and others was an issue which is why I transitioned. We make mistakes and can be confused. It's part of growing as a person, not a weakness.
>>43727274You too I hope you have a good one
>>43727276As long as people are aware that you are trans and not cis it's not a moral issue for me
"Ewwww, that person is different and makes me uncomfortable despite not doing anything to anyone! We should make their lived miserable!"The real issue is that normies don't have individual souls. The spark that makes them true people. They see something different and since it isn't part of themselves, they grow uncomfortable and attack them for it.
>>43727295With all the moral issues people hide from each other in the world and that bothers you? It's subjective and trans people don't owe you if they wish to only present as cis regardless of what's between their legs. That's your own phobias so stop shoving them down people's throats.
>>43727307That's why the term "normie" and "NPC" are interchangeable. Normies are more akin to feral humans than an actual human due to their lack of desire to critically think and adapt. Autists might be turbo-anxious humans, but they're more human than a normie will ever be.
>>43727295The only people who get to know are family and the closest most intimate of relationships. Otherwise, you do not need to know. You do not deserve to know. If you aren't trying to have children with me, you don't get to know shit.
>>43727314I'm not going to think a moral issue isn't an issue just because other moral issues exist. That makes no sense as a principle since eventually you'd be left with no morals at all.>>43727318I think anyone who you are in close contact with deserves to know. You can't have children so if someone is trying to have children with you clearly they have been lied to and are facing some traumatic truth in their future.
>>43723860Social benefits? You’re retarded, trooning out makes your life substantially worse the vast majority of the time compared to a cis person
>>43727295This is how normies hide their transphobia as 'being reasonable '. Entitlement to your information. Theyre always happy to inconvenience minorities to make their own lives more safe and convenient, but everyone else can go get fucked, huh?
>>43727342I just don't think that lying to people is making you safer. There are other reasons why you choose to do it. Maybe you get a thrill from fooling people or you get gender euphoria from blending in but it's not about being safer. Most trans murders happen when they get caught posing as cis women.
>>43727338How is this any different from any other infertile woman? It's not. Moids aren't people, IMHO. Moids will leave infertile women, who are way more common. Women often won't leave infertile men. You are not entitled to my body in this way. There are options for children.No one gets to know. If I tell you, it's because I really trust and love you.It's not like we just sleep around with strangers. It's way too dangerous and it's not fulfilling. If I am sleeping with you, it's because I like you and trust you enough to not spread my past.
>>43727385The other guy clearly is larping as some Chad thundercock who's worried his pussy pool might have some trans people in it. Gross.
>>43727354No, it's about safety. I've been stealth for the majority of my life. There isn't really a thrill at all. My life is pretty normal, with bursts of fear when people start talking about trans shit about other people.You creatures say one thing to our faces, but when you don't know we are around, you say some of the most horrendous, fucked up shit imaginable.
>>43727385Because infertile women are born as women. You just don't want to accept that agab is deeply important to most people. I bet it's important to you too and that you treat trans women and infertile cis women as very different in your own thoughts and actions, if you pay attention
>>43727388lol what makes you think I want to be Chad Thundercock. I'm on hrt and not very thunderous in my breeches
>>43727433And even if every single trans woman in the world agreed with you what would that change? Nothing. You're just a bully who needs something you deem lesser to punch down on because of your own insecurities and lack of self worth to live and let live.
>>43727402I don't talk about trans away from this board. I don't know how you achieved stealth for the majority of your life, you would have had to have transitioned very young and be decently old by now to manage that.
>>43727463>bullyOh please I'm not the one dehumanizing people who disagree with me left and right. How have I bullied you? I think if every trans woman agreed with me the world would be a slightly better place but you can't force agreement. You want me to agree with you too, that's how dialogue works.
>>43727339>no responses to this trvke
>>43727433It's less important than you realise. My upbringing is no different than any other rebellious girl who grew up in a religious fundamentalist household. I can barely remember the years before my transition in my teens other than some key events. We're just women. At least us youngshits are.This is why women often hate moids. We see you as individuals by and large. You see us as baby making machines and fantasy fulfillment vehicles, and not the person standing next to you in life's struggles.
>>43727511>We see you as individuals by and large>>43727385>Moids aren't people, IMHOSo which one is it? The problem with lying all the time is that you forget what's true and what's a lie
>>43727511The only person I've ever seen as a baby making machine was another trans girl and she'll probably hate me for that
>>43727527Because I still approach people as individuals. Slowly, I learn to hate individual moids. I hate moids as a class, because they treat me and my sisters like shit.I date men.I know that complex emotions are beyond all moids. Sorry that this may seem like a contradiction, but it isn't. Degrees, moid, degrees.
>>43727571If you think your complex emotions are beneath my comprehension why bother talking at me
>>43727584Because I need to remind you that you are delusional in believing any woman with a past like mine would ever deign to sleep with you. You disgust us and we want nothing to do with you.You are a narcissist.It it oozes through with your belief that we would ever want to sleep with such a hateful creature. You are undesirable and so you lash out at those you see beneath you as a way of signaling to other collective souled idiots that you are worthy of praise.
>>43725926>proper mental treatmentJust say you want to lobotomize trannies
>>43727649I'm sure there would be, self hating or not, but it also takes two to tango and they already expressed they are attracted to biology more than gender or the person.Everyone is a narcissist to a degree. It's a condition of the ego of self. Confidence, boundaries, preferences, beliefs. It's not a word that's should be tossed around outside of a professional setting where someone wishes to work on traits that can be deemed negative to a grander audience. Inherently that can be labeled as sociopathic and manipulative. Not to defend them but there are more fruitful ways to get a point across since psychology speak only works when coupled with the goal of self improvement.You were correct in your previous statement. Even if baby making isn't the goal of their attractions, they seem to have a phobia with anything other than a vagina. This is an area of phobia I've had to deal with concerning other trans women and it's quite rough coming from anyone when you're whole existence and worth is reduced to having a inny rather than an outie. This is also where others will make other reasons for their ire since it's often not the most socially acceptable reason to hate on someone, especially for those who rely on keeping up a public image for their own manipulations or gratifications.
>>43727649>Because I need to remind you that you are delusional in believing any woman with a past like mine would ever deign to sleep with youI mean I already knew that but go off queen
>>43727789 what do you think of this post >>43723860you say you are an outie so you haven't had SRS and therefore you are a man, I presume?
>>43727789No, I meant it in the clinical sense. Men like him are the vulnerable or collective subtypes of NPD. There are some assumptions on my part here, but the correlation is so great, that I can no longer ignore it after over 20 or so odd years.How people treat trannies in public are how they treat women in private.He has the grandiosity of believing that we are out here to trick him into having sex with us, when we are overwhelmingly openly terrified of entering into any relationship due to fear of rejection, gossip, domestic violence, and death. Because clearly we are all lying about these things because we crave his superior dick, or something.I can understand your reservations on the use of the term, especially with how there is those few repeatable studies on NPD within the MtF groups, WHICH NO ONE FUCKING READ BEYOND THE ABSTRACT. Basically, the study used a test designed to detect the possibility of personality disorders within a subject; and many of the questions have to do with NPD are around physical appearance. The test is notoriously bad about differentiating between people with BDD and people with NPD, and the research teams even started that the results are not actually indicative of NPD because trans women suffer from a form of body dysmorphia, so NPD is far more likely to flag.
>>43727869I don't think you are out to have sex with me. I think you are tricking other people and that's a moral issue that I can't abide by. Everything else in your rants is your own narcissism projected outward
>>43727845Nope. I'm not a srs woman and never will get a neovagina or a laboratory womb and to people like you will forever be a hon with gynotits who should just rope myself. All the power to those who want to get SRS and I would support, dilate, eat out, and fuck them but I don't obsess over genitals to the point of phobias stopping me from calling other trans women a woman. If someone presented their name was Jeff I would call them Jeff. Not spend my life debating why I think they should be Jack.
>>43727917You misunderstand that was the post I originally took issue with and then everyone started dogpilling me for wanting have sex with them even though I'm not really gynephilic. In truth I am exactly like you, a hon with gynotits so the posts calling me a Chad Thundercock larper are way off the mark lmao
>>43727897There is no trick. What you see is what you get. The mask was removed. And you hate what is underneath. You are narcissistic enough to tell others how to live their lives when it doesn't even remotely concern you.Enjoy your testicular cancer in 23 years.
>>43727954Can I even get test cancer after 5 years of estrogen? I will have to ask my doctor about it
>>43727227Schizophrenics are not dangerous by default retard, you cant make a thread about how rightoids are le ableist and then spread shit like that lmaoThe guy you are replying isnt even giving a rational statement in the first place, you cant "normalize" mental illness considering how much of a tiny percentage of the population has them.What they actually mean is that they dont like the idea of people looking at trannies (or schizos) as human beings, because in their brain "normalizing" just means people being accepting and understanding of the mental illness someone has.The same psychiatrists giving schizophrenics their medication and treatment they need are sending trannies to endos for HRT.Their argument is based on nothing and yet you gave into it
>>43728414Paranoid schizophrenics can get dangerous if confronted. Depends heavily on the specific delusion.
>>43724002tqh, a vagina is a bleeding hole festering with bacteria, the outside looks like the mouth of an eldritch deity and it's cross-section is Baphomet's skull on a rorschach.But yeah a natural look is very very rare.
>>43724866Even literal schizos aren't supposed to be treated the way you treat trans people.
>>43724394>>43725926>>43724866Pic is from the book 'Changing Our Minds - Lesbian Feminism and Psychology' (1993).
>>43729493True but I still enjoy making out with them
>>43729524This. transphobia is in fact a symptom of severe mental and emotional retardation.
