how about a cis man

>>43725287
I can, but I'm a total femme.

>>43725287
I can relate, but I'm mtf, so I guess that's like the oposite for me

>>43725299
No cis man are ugly smelly and hairy. Only if ur a femboy that looks like a woman with a high pitched voice

>>43725300
Thats perfect. I strictly like woman and femininity after all

>>43725287
literally happened to me, met my gf and they were a trans man at the time, and over the time they've bee watched them drop their masculinity more and more to appeal to me, change pronouns, asked to be called gf instead of partner, asked to be called feminine things when i'm inside them. i mean they outright say they are so happy to be a lesbian dating another lesbian. never intended on this happening but i'm not displeased with the outcome

>>43725476
they've been dropping their masculinity more and more to appeal to me* messed that sentence up fuck im tired

>>43725476
Was he she already on t?

>>43725520
they wanted to get on it but they weren't on T yet no

>>43725287
>tranny dyke
yeah we definitely need to drop the T

>>43725287
I don't understand detrans kinks, what's the deal with that (not jugmental i'm genuinely curious) ?

>>43725287
god I wish I were pretty and rizzful enough to do this but not if it would trigger your dysphoria or whatever

>>43727453
mine got on t...

>>43727594
Go fuck urself stupid homo

>>43728671
Idk man. I dont always have it. Sometimes if shit like that happens i want to kill myself.

Just sometimes i do. Sometimes i remember how easy it was being a pretty girl. I also just simply looked better. Its nice getting admired and treated like a god without having to put in any effort. I feel i dont look like a man so i feel like a retarted ugly looking ahh incel. I mean ftms are literally short dickless males, the worst of the worst.

When i get fetishized its like i feel the closest i could be to actually being desired for once. I feel like no has ever. But then i remember its a version of me thats not actually me that they want and then i feel depressed. But its also like an escape to play into the fetoshization. I can escape being me for a while.

For the piv, its simply thay the strap doesnt feel anything and i feel cucked using one. Im actually a bit more on the dom side, but using a strap pleasuring someone else and me being cucked i feel like im being someones bitch. Wish i could dick someone down but i cant..

If i were to be a cis male id be a hardcore sadist dom 90% of the time probably. Position wise id switch it up, but would probably be too lazy to clean my ahh so id prefer topping i think. I Wouldnt do any kink shit related to trans people.
If id have a dick i wouldnt have a slight detrans kink.

>>43728693
Only in bed sometimes itd be okay. Outside of the bedroom its a hard no for me and id instantly dump you (have done this with the last one)

Also be aware im not a cutsey tiktok poon i actually look like a cis male.

>>43728736
Welp there goes the fantasy huh. Just wait till his chest hair kicks in loll thatll be the ultimate chaser test for u. Will you withstand it is the question

>>43730004
Wow that's very sad to hear Anon, I'm very sure you will one day pass enough and be manly enough to overcome your condition.
You don't want bottom surgery I suppose?

>>43730078
I mean i fully pass already. Its not like i dont think i look like a man but its like i dont look like a MAN yk. I look like an ugly short little boy. I dont look like a cool tall sexy male. I have been transitioned for a long time so i know it wont get that much better. Sure i work out and can work out more, but i wouldnt look the same. Short people with a lot of muscles just look kind of... weird. Im still doing it anyways but it looks like shit.

Im not sure about bottom surgery. Im still on the waiting list. But i have never tried piv or anal before so idk what it even feels like.

At first i was 100% sure of bottom surgery. But ive heard so many bad stories. It looking bad, it not getting atiff enough, pee problems and losing feeling. If id lose feeling id be devastated, a sim horny 24/7. But losing feeling seems to be REALLY common. Like 90% loses atleast somewhat of the feeling and like 20% feels nothing at all. Ive looked at other surgery options, but those basically look like a clit with a ballsack underneath it. Looks weird and isnt even usable.

As a ftm ur only options are badworking dick, penetration or getting cucked for life.

So idk. Up until now ive only been cucked by my previous partners. I have never come with someone. Not even once. Not even close. Thats mainly what makes me consider piv. I dont think anal would feep good but id be down to try

>>43730146
How old are u Anon?
And yeah I totally get what you mean with bottom surgery, I really wanted to do SRS at first but I heard terrible things about it so I am just hoping for better surgery procedures in the future.
And why have you never been sexually satisfied if you have never come with someone? Is there a specific reason to it?

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>>43730004
>>43730146
>using a strap pleasuring someone else and me being cucked
I have heard that some straps were specifically designed to give pleasure to both partners though? Idk i've never used one myself so you tell me

>>43728671
It's just sissy kink but he has a cunt so he gets to pretend it's something else.
Tell me I'm wrong...

>>43730234
Im in my 20s. I have never come cause my prev partners only wanted me to top. The strap feels nothing. They would also not like to give me head. They also barely touched me down there. And when they did it was too short to actually come. So I was basically being cucked/ a slave for their pleasure. While they all claimed to be submissive. I thaught a part of submission meant wanting to please ur partner more than anything. Apparently it does not. Most people who claim to be submissive just like to be lazy and be a starfish but call it submission to sound more kinky.

And for the few times they did touch me I feel like they all didnt actually like pleasuring me. It were all people more/only attracted to dick. If i know it feels like a chore to someone else itll not/ barely turn me on. Im already hard to turn on bc of dysphoria and just being a hard person to please in general (adhd + on my own I tend to already take ATLEAST 15 minutes at my quickest. Most of the times it takes between 30 mins to an hour)

Maybe im just not very sensitive. Also partly why im scared of surgery. If its already bad and will only get worse... will i ever even come again??

>>43730332
I wanna lick your boycunt till you cum several times :3 I'm not that anon I just love all trans people I think you should cum on my tongue. Only problem is I have a jaw ache so it won't work...

>>43730264
Those dont really do anything. Idk if u have a pussy but just something being in there and giving slight friction does nothing. Its like shoving in a tampon. Woohoo. Compare it to you taking a shit.

>>43730301
Dude i wish i were a sissy then id actually be wanted and have a source of pleasure other than dysphoric genetalia that no one even likes in the first place.

But nah if i were cis id be normal. My ex used to misgender me without permission and it actually made me feel like shit and cry. Its just that ftms are the least desired species out there unless we try to appeal to maga minds. 1 minute ago i saw another post calling us 'revolting'. It sucks being desired by fucking no one and feeling like not even being someones last option. I want to be someones first option for once and not feel like a replacable last resort

>>43730351
If id live close id sit on ur face

>>43730383
>>43730394
Both those were me I didn't mean you in specific as you seem to have a different mindset than someone who's really into that "detrans" thing, the mindset of those just reminds me a lot of sissies. But my first ever boyfriend was trans so maybe I have a special liking or something personally, I'm a trans woman myself.

>>43730332
That's very weird, I'm sub and I always try to give pleasure to my partner, maybe your partners just expect you to tell/order them to give you pleasure?
Sounds like you miscommunicate with your partners about what you both expect while having intercourse... Happens too often sadly
>>43730360
>Idk if u have a pussy
No I am mtf pre-op...
>>43730383
>It sucks being desired by fucking no one
Personally I would really like dating a FtM (I dated a FtM not long ago but I discovered after the date that he was cis??), so I just know other people in the wild like me desire FtMs so you just have to keep searching I believe

>>43730473
I was very clear. Everytime. EVERYTIME when sex i had to ask them to do something. Maybe ONE time one did it herself. For like a very shirt while. Sometimes when i asked my partners to do somthing they even seemes irritated or complained about their hands or neck hurting or whatever after like 2 minutes.

Welp about ur op, i know some transwoman dont get the clit with the surgery, GET ONE. trust. 90% of the feeling is in the clit. And ive heard from all my cis female friends penetration alone never makes them come. I have been fingered before (for like just a few minutes tho) and it felt like almost nothing. So please if you ever want to come get a clit, and dont expect to much of the hole feeling. Porn exaggerates. And from my female friends storys irl they do it too to please the males. But the clit is where its at.

About ur date, what do you mean? Wa sit a cia guy lying about being trans? Or did you just assume? Also what would you like about dating a ftm compared to any other species?

>>43725476
Disgusting, die

>>43730432
What could possibly be the advantage of dating a ftm

>>43730579
Why does there need to be one? But for me I think dating someone coming from the opposite direction from me has some obvious utility on top of I just find it neat and hot, sure.

>>43730549
>Sometimes when i asked my partners to do somthing they even seemes irritated or complained about their hands or neck hurting or whatever after like 2 minutes.
Wow they suck so bad, your situation seems rlly sad, sorry OP :(
idk what to tell you, i'm not a dom and i know too little about your partners etc to really know why you have so little chance, if u want we can talk more about it on discord
>GET ONE. trust.
thanks for telling me i really appreciate it :') but as I already said two friends of mine convinced me otherwise and told me to wait for new surgery procedures to come
>About ur date, what do you mean?
Basically he refused to identify as cis or trans, he was a gym rat, was my height (5'3), cut ties with his mom, and the day before the date I told him I was very stressed because I didn't really pass, and he told me "me neither". But the day after the date I learned from his friend that he is not FtM but a MtF repper ???
>what would you like about dating a ftm compared to any other species?
The mere will of FtMs to want to become more masculine, by reshaping their entire body to make it more muscular and more manly, is *by itself* more masculine, so I really like that. It's not translatable to MtFs though, and apart from that I don't see FtMs any differently from cis men.
I also don't have genitalia preference so I don't care about him not having a penis, as long as he doms.

>>43725476
how am i supposed to not think transbians and the poons who date them are not just literal straight people after reading this

>>43730549
>>43730715
i'll go to sleep, just in case this thread gets archived before I wake up, here's my discord: mooshiimooshii

>>43730765
Maybe by not generalizing across a demographic of hundreds of thousands of people based on one anecdotal story you saw posted to an anonymous website with zero verification?

>>43725287
cringe

Have you considered metoidioplasty? Phallo, even at it's best, is awful, but if you've had decent bottom growth on T then you should just get meta + ball implants

>dood!

im a pooner and before T i couldn't do PIV but now somehow i can and it feels great lol, i think it must be some sort of hormonal imbalance pre-T. maybe some sort of chronic inflammation and depression from being constantly estrogenized.

I think you just have to get lucky wth a partner and give and take a little, my partner calls me mommy n we do PIV but i get to be the "dom" (femdom) and they let me be hairy n present generally masc so we're on equal ground, as in they call me mommy, but somehow still see me as male (somehow). Also they constantly want to eat me out and suck on my clit n huff my pussy. For sex i dont mind being a "girl", but i like the social benefits of being a man in the day to day like at work. in the bedroom my partner and I are a massive pervs so it's kinda just massive fetish tendencies roleplay.

>>43725287
>>43725476
>look inside AFAB thread
>auto-erotic fantasy

they say the vaginal orgasm is a myth but i've fucked mustachioed pooners to multiple orgasms

>>43725287
I wish my boyfriend was like you and would detransition for me.

>>43725287
Detransistion.

>>43725287
my biggest dream is a twinky pooner forcefemming me and turning me into his girlfriend so i dont have to be a lonely incel cis man anymore
and then i would spend the rest of my life servicing him sexually :3

>>43734728
>my partner calls me mommy
Why don't they call you daddy? I don't get it if they see you as male

>>43730567
Never!

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>>43725287
i accidentally made my pretty poon into a man by encouraging them to be more soulmasc and dominant with me

>>43738356
How is this disappointing ?

>>43735378
because i don't like being called that? n they want like soft femdom not daddy shit. daddy shit is ultra cringe desu

>>43725287
whats this dogshit
pooners are made to for forcemasc

>>43725328
where are you from?

>>43738591
im a lesbian

>>43725287
Alright I can make this happen

>>43725476
Hot plaps

Congratulations on unpooning the worst gender out of her

>>43725287
Wtf

>>43725476
please tell me how to detransition my tboy!

i'm an ugly futch and i want a girlfriend or an enbyfriend but i can't get one because my face is completely disgusting and i'm fat no lesbian will ever love me can anyone relate

>>43745452
i'm enby

>>43725287
>so i dont have to be a lonely incel poon anymore
Isn't being an incel + being ftm like... Impossible?

>>43730264
those do fuckall unfortunately

>>43747531
its possible as fuck