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QOTT: what happened to your clitty on HRT? has it shrunk or stayed the same.

• Help, advice, guidance on meds and dosages
• HRT related medical experiences and research
• Availability and pricing of medications
• Rational and scientific discussion

▶ FAQ: https://pghrt.diy/
▶ Info Directory: https://diyhrt.info/
▶ MTF Vendor index: https://diyhrt.market/
▶ Articles/literature: https://transfemscience.org/
▶ Estradiol simulator: https://estrannai.se/
▶ TransDIY: https://www.reddit.com/r/transDIY
▷ Pill ID: https://www.drugs.com/imprints.php
▷ DrugBank Database (requires account): https://www.drugbank.com/
▷ Basic MTF HRT: https://apps.carleton.edu/campus/gsc/assets/hormones_MTF.pdf
▷ MTF HRT ranges: https://www.hemingways.org/GIDinfo/hrt_ref.htm
▷ Powers Method (2020): https://powersfamilymedicine.com/s/Healthcare-of-the-Transgender-Patient-V60.pptx - Anything from Powers should be taken with a grain of salt.
▷ Endocrine Society Guidelines: https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/102/11/3869/4157558
▷ Transline Guidelines w/bicalutamide (2019): https://transline.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/article_attachments/360047702053/TransLine_HRT_Guidelines_FINAL.pdf
▷ WPATH Standards of Care: https://www.wpath.org/publications/soc
» Blood tests by mail: https://www.letsgetchecked.com/ - DIY finger-prick samples. Expensive.
» Blood tests (US): https://www.privatemdlabs.com/, https://www.labsmd.com/
» Blood tests (UK, Ireland): https://www.medichecks.com/
» Blood tests (Canada): https://bloodtestscanada.com/
» Blood tests (Sweden): https://werlabs.se/
» Lab Services Handbook: https://www.healthcare.uiowa.edu/path_handbook/

Links that need updating:
∗ Survey data: https://1drv.ms/x/s!AudRJceTA5C9cyIWo6_X14AvHyM
∗ HRTGen Data Analysis (2017): https://1drv.ms/f/s!AudRJceTA5C9gRLLWnbpdzlIxe4r
∗ HRT Info Sheets: https://1drv.ms/f/s!AudRJceTA5C9gQnyM7wxZcBGWRzW
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>>43733885
Pharmacies:
› https://www.inhousepharmacy.vu/t-shipping.aspx - Popular in the US. Ships from Vanuatu to some countries.
› euaibolitatgmaildotcom - EU => Worldwide.
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› https://aipctshop.com/ - Ships from India
› https://www.indiamart.com/ - Ships from India
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I got Now Foods Natural Progesterone cream, it has 20mg prog/pump. Should I rub it over my body to get the effects? No I can't get the rectal pills. Help me max out with what I got.
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>>43733885
Is it weird it grew for me? Definitely no more than an inch, but my gf pointed it out about a month ago and it's true. What can I even be doing for this to happen? Im 7 months hrt
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yay new hrtgen
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>>43733885
>QOTT
It's the same as far as I can tell. 1 year hrt
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>>43734012
try putting it on thin permeable skin, ideally the armpit or the scrotum. that formula likely isn't designed for maximum penetration, however.
you'd be best off making your own topical or getting a spray from a homebrewer.
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>>43733885
damn i missed the whole last thread cause the image is white now
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How much am I cooking myself by letting my estradiol sit above 450 pg/ml?
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>>43735810
overdosing can give high shbg but other than that idk if theres really been any proper studies on the actual effects of doing this. at worst youre wasting meds on levels that do nothing
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>>43734684
LMAO yeah sorry, i'll stick with the dark mode one next time -- wanted to include image #2 (could only find light mode) but inconsistency bothered me so i made them both white...
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>>43737548
oh my god i didn't even realise this is a new hrtgen and someone beat me to making it this time and now qott is talking about "clitty"...
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any guides for enby med routines? trying to max E without totally nuking T for muscle maintenance
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>>43737594
back in my day, /hrtgen/ used to be numbered
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im kinda mean spirited today, not in my usual mood
just occured to me that it's injection day today
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I am not Symphony Labs but I will post this here.

They have a mutual aid program now: https://symphonylabs.cc/mutual-aid

Email address: mutualaid@symphonylabs.cc

@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

and they have a blog post detailing UK shipping delay, mutual aid and future products: https://symphonylabs.cc/blog/uk-shipping-delay-mutual-aid-and-future-products

"Firstly, we've hit some issues with the recent UK stock, we're really sorry that we keep pushing back the in stock date for the UK, we are doing everything we can to get stock there as soon as possible. Ideally it'll be within the next few days, but I do understand if you can't trust that estimate given the past estimates.

Secondly, we have a mutual aid program now!!!! This is something that I personally have been looking forward to offering at Symphony for a while now, and we finally have our shit (somewhat) together such that we can offer this. Please only sign up if you cannot afford a vial.

Thirdly, we hope to introduce transdermal sprays and all Estradiol esters soon, as well as progesterone in some form."
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>>43738612
W symphony
these mfs are goated. gen the only other thing they need to be perfect imo is a mainland eu warehouse
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>>43737594
how about you answer the fucking question instead of bitching about it? whore.
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>>43737707
you're either going to be doing a roider routine (e.g. anabolics or SARMs) or using HCG to preserve your natural T production.
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>>43737821
inject your girl or boy juice faggot and/or dyke.
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Is transdermal prog effective at all or do I just need to lock in and boof
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>>43738744
i've yet to see hard research on how transdermal doses translate to boofed ones, but it does appear to at the very least do something.
if you want ease of use, go for transdermal prog, if you want consistent reliable prog levels, open up your asshole girlie.
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>>43737821
was feeling like crap yesterday. injection day was the day before that. at least its data.
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does anyone else think summer somehow suppresses e or makes t come back? or is this because of the mild AA effects of the spearmint tea i stopped drinking?

ive been on 5.2mg subq een (13mL@40mg/mL) for 6 months and my forearm hair seems slightly a tiny bit darker than it was last month and my facial hair seems to be growing ever so slightly faster now and i randomly have libido activation maybe once a week compared to none before. is that normal or do i need to up the dose? or is it really the spearmint? is it that powerful or am i on borderline dose for suppressing t?

im gonna start chugging the mint again to see what happens since summer coincides with it dying back anyway but it could be just be correlation not causation which is why i ask about summer. its still working for the most part btw. last summer in this same situation without hrt was drastically different very stinky very hairy and kinda motivated me to get my shit together. but like mint isnt even a real aa, or maybe it is? dont some people need an aa because they cant suppress fully with mono due to raising sbhg? i rly should just get bloodwork
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>>43738612
anyone know when canada domestic is going to be back in stock for symphony I've been waiting for months
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>>43739726
a thought: maybe things are actually fine and the mint is just mopping up free T that is actually at normal cis levels under 50ng but i simply prefer closer to zero. maybe cycling is good for me anyway because zero T is bad but im ok with that if i get blonde forearms and chest hair out of it so i dont have to tweeze.
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>>43739979
>anyone know when canada domestic is going to be back in stock for symphony I've been waiting for months
They said "Our plans to open in Canada have been delayed indefinitely."
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/TransDIY/comments/1spm6ha/a_statement_from_symphony_labs/
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hi! options for bloodwork in NY? it seems like most options are all banned in the state and I'm not sure what to do.
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>>43737548
>wanted to include image #2 (could only find light mode) but inconsistency bothered me so i made them both white...
Any idea why you're not grabbing them from https://archived.moe/lgbt/thread/40613841?
since both images are in dark mode and are also the latest guide versions.
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>>43741269
joiandblokes does complete panels for fairly cheap. it won't be as cheap as pmdl ($25 for just E and T)
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this much een just spilled from backflow. do I kms or do I re-inject cause this is way too fucking much
ignore my hairy as belly im lazy as shit and haven't shaved for a bit
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i keep getting recommended pioglitazone, but i have yet to see any formally-written information on its use as part of a feminizing hrt regimen. have civilian studies been done on it or something? is there any tangible information out there on it?
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>>43744015
Not really. Anecdotes say it may help with weight, but they also say it stunts breast growth and gives you diabetes
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>>43741521
...that's embarrassing, i glanced and didn't see that. thank you anon, ilysm
>>43744015
i haven't seen any trans-focused studies on pioglitazone, but its effect of preferential gynoid fat deposition (i.e. encouraging fat storage around the hips) is fairly well known.
>https://doi.org/10.1186/s12933-021-01294-7
>in non-diabetic individuals it promotes an increase in total body fat content with preferential accumulation in the lower body parts and reduction in waist-to-hip ratio
take a look at https://theriaca.co/post/pioglitazone for an overview from a tfoid standpoint
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waow
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>>43739979
nine
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possibly gave myself a tumor award
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>>43747210
you just need more E sis
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>>43743995
I literally dont see anything worth talking about
do yourself a favor, pull water into that syringe. dont inject it, obviously. Take that water syringe, hold it above a typical injection site, and press the plunger.
If you've ever seen a fraction of that amount of liquid leaving the injection site, you're either using turkey basters instead of subq syringes, or you're injecting directly into a layer of skin. The first one hurts, and the second one is like ripping a hole into your skin with a paperclip, it's very obvious when you mess it up.
The worst case for this week, if you are right, is that you stink a little more. Just make sure the next week you try something different, withdraw the needle slower/faster, whichever seems to work for you. the worst case if you take more is that your body starts trying to use that as the standard, leading to a lower level of free estrogen as your body tries to compensate for big spikes.
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can I lick raw bicalutamide off of a milligram scale
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>>43747270
the sky is the limit
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will I die if I lick untested raw darolutamide off of a milligram scale
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>>43747569
the sky is the limit
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so am i just fucked as a florida tranny or did something change yet
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>9th week
>buds/puffy as fuck nipples that are very noticeable
>overthinking what a hair removal technician is gonna think
I'm kind of getting regrets over not getting my body hair removed before starting hrt. Shaving or similar is not an option.
Can I just "stall" at the current progress with a lower dose until I manage to get my body hair removed or is it advisable to just completely stop and then start again at a later point in time?
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>>43747697
do not fuck up your breast growth lol
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>>43733885
>has it shrunk
Yes but not enough :(
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>>43735810
Fine probably? Im at 822 pg/ml on a trough day but SHBG is normal, and im Fine for now I think, only been 5 months though
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>>43748092
that name suits you
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>>43748092
>822 pg/ml on a trough day
do milk?
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>>43748133
No, I thought that was a prog thing?
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>>43748127
Thanks lol
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>>43748143
it's both + prolactin and oxytocin, but you should get that down to AT LEAST 500
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>>43748153
I havent had oxytocin tested, but my prolactin came back 29.093 ng/ml and SHBG was 91 nmol/L , ill get it checked on my next bloods
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>>43748176
oxytocin is not something that you test, well, not for this
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>>43747697
Once you get good levels that hair is supposed to fall out and not grow back. You could buy a cheap epilator in the meantime
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>>43748219
I don't want to retain any peach fluff or even the possibility for any hair to grow back. Not just for aesthetic reasons.
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I think my Astrovials' een vial is expired or something. Before injecting, I was on shitty E gel and my nipples were tender. Few hours after injecting 4 mg subq, my nipples went numb and after a night of sleep they're barely tender. Am I injecting blanks or something? Thanks.
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>>43748865
You're changing how you take your hormones, your body will have to take some time to adjust.
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>>43749113
Doesn't make sense. It's the same molecule. It's all estradiol.
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>>43748865
that's normal
breast tenderness comes and goes - works the same way as cis women
even cis women on their cycle may not experience tenderness at all
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>>43749266
hemihydrate from gel and esters have different steady states.
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>>43744514
>say it may help with weight
people say it helps with WHR (increasing hips more than waist), and there is data to back that up.
>gives you diabetes
how exactly would it do that?
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>>43747270
>>43747569
i knew a dysmorphic icelandic dude who took raloxifene and relugolix with a spoon.
it works. just get it in your mouth and swallow.
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>>43733885
/HRTgen/ i've got an idea and i'm not exactly proud of it but i want to know if it might work
my mother is menstruating right now and has patches for it that have estrogen in them and i'm fairly sure norethisterone too
i've not told anyone about my transness even though i'm not fully sure about it, so that's why i thought about it but i want to figure some things out and this might help
like i said not very proud of this idea but i haven't got much left
thanks much in advance
going to be honest i did try to use one of them and failed but when i touched it i felt weirdly better and happy
either i'm not a fraud or it's placebo, oh well
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>>43750168
doesn’t matter if it’d work or not. don’t steal your parents meds, if your mother runs out what is she going to do? what if she can’t get more easily?
have some empathy for your own mother, asshole. get your own online.
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>>43750168
stealing from your mom is bad
she will find out. its her meds that shes using actively. just DIY for fucks sake, DIY is less than 100 bucks a year.
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>>43748507
Get it removed then. The waxing girl or laser lady dgaf about your puffy nipples, stopping your hrt is the worst thing you can do.
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>>43739726
ok thanks for the not help. i guess im gonna get bloods after i fix my computer
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>>43747697
>I'm kind of getting regrets over not getting my body hair removed before starting hrt
im scared im fucking myself because a bunch of my chest hair is getting lighter

has anyone had a problem with hrt making hair lighter but not totally clear and having to do electrolysis over laser because of that?
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>>43750168
i almost did something similar. dont they will notice or nothing will happen you gotta take it for a while before it kicks in anyway you wont be able to steal enough for it to work w out getting caught, and you shouldnt steal
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bump
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how often can you order from outside the EU as an eurofag before it becomes too noticable? i am getting my third "essential oil" shipment in two months and i am worried that they might be growing suspicious of me.
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>>43733885
does anyone have good references for progesterone spray?
i got some and the site i got it from only had a basic dosing guide.
i havent ever seen it mentioned in the infographics or references here, but i might just be missing it.
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How much domperidone should I take to induce lactation if I weigh 130 pounds?
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>>43753038
estrogen isn't illegal
>>43755058
follow the normal lactation induction protocol for cisgender mothers with babies, such as those who use surrogates or adopt. don't induce lactation if you have no baby. it isn't worth it for a fetisy
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>>43750168
what kind of estrogen? if estradiol, E2, oestrogen, or oestradiol, isn't in the ingredients list, then don't use it.
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>>43750168
>norethisterone
prefer micronized progesterone
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>>43733885
progesterone affected my breasts.

t. 3 yrs hrt mono injections 1 yr



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