I am feminine because my mom hated on men growing up, and I'm extremely submissive and hate being a male. I can act straight and normal but having sex with a man as a "female" is the most erotic fantasy to me. Even just living as a female and being subservient to an actual man sounds thrilling.
>>43734791Not mef
>>43734791>MEFsyea get you a partner who will forcefem you into taking e
>>43735206is that sustainable
>>43735215no its just hot
>>43735241ugh that would be hoti wish i was an out and proud tranny with a bf to hang off of
>>43734791I want a cute failed male like you to gradually turn in to my woman. I'd make you throw away all your boy clothes, put you on estrogen, and buy you a new wardrobe that gets sluttier and sluttier the more you progress. I'd love holding you in my arms, enjoying and appreciating all the changes the hormones are making to your body, seeing your hair get longer, feeling your skin get softer, hearing you moan with a newfound feminine pleasure as I fondle your budding breasts, making you know your place as I smother the vestigial estrogenized shrinking member between your legs with my rock hard cock, and telling you what a good girl you are when you swallow your girl pills with my cum. I wanna take you over and over again in every way imaginable until you can never forget the shape of my cock and very cell in your body internalizes that you're a female.
>>43735344bwah..nta but you dont need to be that explicit.. i havent failed at anything yet, anon!
>>43734791Hot
>>43735754nta but you are already a failed male mentally given that op post>>43735344>my ASA post has been screenshotted and reposted multiple times nowI have now become immortal through eternal glory
>>43736407Your American Society of Anesthesiologists post?
>>43734791You know, it's possible that you are just trans and you're just looking for "excuses" or explanations. It happens to a lot of us.It's also possible you're not, but it's possible you are. You should look into it.If you do decide to date a man as someone who wants to be submissive, be very wary of controlling, abusive moids.t. ranny
>>43737388In my experiences even those who transition who have these sorts of mentalities and view being a woman as a thrill are just sexists and lean conservative. You often see it with the older generations, often cross dressers who are also transphobic in some form, that can't cope with being a gay male and project their rape fantasies, envy, and misogynistic views of women onto themselves to vicariously live that fantasy. It's not a completely invalid reason to be trans or transition, as few reasons are, however it can start to bleed over into other aspects of their life that affects everyone else around them or how they treat others and these feelings are best discussed with someone like a psychologist and sensitivity counselor, assuming the person is able to be truthful about it. Unfortunately few will and those who speak out against usually become targets for harassment as those disorders start to build into psychotic and antisocial behaviors. This can lead to violence or prejudice against women but is most commonly directed at trans folk and effeminate men due to jealousy of those having the strength to live their lives with a foundation of truth that's not just driven by a kink and shame.
>>43737599>In my experiences even those who transition who have these sorts of mentalities and view being a woman as a thrill are just sexists and lean conservativeThis is because you are on the website of the hacker known as 4chan.In real life, most trans women are leftists.>>43737599>You often see it with the older generations, often cross dressers who are also transphobic in some form... or you're confusing actual trans women with sissy fetishists who view womanhood and femininity as degrading and humiliating, which is a right wing belief, yes.>>43737599>It's not a completely invalid reason to be trans or transitionYes it is, but being submissive is not the same thing as seeing submission as degrading and the actual source of arousal being the degradation.
>>43734791why can't you just continue to be mef without transition
>>43734791MEFs don't hate being male, they get off on identifying as one and failing to live up to what they perceive is a real man, you a tranny.
>>43737599>It's not a completely invalid reason to be trans or transition, as few reasons areHm. What is an invalid reason if that isn’t?
>>43734791Honestly the most successful trannies I've talked to here have been MEF and I'm pretty MEFy myself...
>>43735344see this is peak someone should have done this to me when I was younger I'd have been such a good boywife
>>43737711Most sissies are often those who haven't transitioned due to whatever reason and/or because they're still figuring things out and haphazardly fell into the nomenclature. I know I did way back in my journey when I was trying to thesaurus my way around my dysphoria. This is also why a lot of effeminate men who don't have dysphoria don't continue to use the term to describe themselves once they discover the type of scene it is. For those who stay within it and continue to use the label, not all of them are misogynistic or sexist, but quite a few are. None of my response was about submission on its own since bdsm transcends gender, but the possible motives behind it and how submission can be viewed by certain peoples and cultures, which is often rooted with sexism and homophobia. There is also gorean subculture of bdsm which is very female submissive focused.
>>43737856>those who haven't transitioned due to whatever reason and/or because they're still figuring things out and haphazardly fell into the nomenclatureMaybe you've got a point. Maybe sometimes they're figuring themselves out and haven't deconstructed the misogyny that was put in their heads and maybe that doesn't make them inherently bad people. But it also seems like we're arguing over the name we give to the category of person I'm describing, more so than its nature unto itself.
>>43737785Kinda a loaded question since there is no true invalidity since it comes down to what we want for ourselves. It's the motives behind it which is what people have a right to disagree with. Not control, but disagree and choose not to interact with. This is also why there was much concern from those who do transition and those who use transgendered terms to describe themselves for clout and attention seeking. Unfortunately it was all just weaponized by those with goals of trans erasure or cisnormativity and makes underlying issues near impossible to talk about without being labeled as truscum or tucute. People like josh seiter are invalid but still received valid support as a means to combat it. That didn't make his fake transition any less invalid but it's a good example of how insincerity for the sake of popularity or an agenda can damage the trans community.
>>43734791Ugh you people are the reason why there's so many diapers lovers, puppygirls and ogrehon. You will get bored 2 years into transition and need a new spectacle
>>43737911We all take different paths in life. I started to really research into the word sissy after using it a few times for myself, which I originally thought was endearing and something to take back from its traditional negative roots, and then dropped it pretty quickly. Learning how it's still used as a label and the sorts of people who use it, it appealed less to me since I'm not homophobic or a sexist and those are the types who often keep using it for shameful fetish. Because that's how they view women or homosexuals. Beneath them where as I view womens sexuality, transgendered, and homosexuality as empowering. Some will hate me for that and others will love me for it.
>>43738221Did you ever stop to think that being cisgendered was the phase? You don't like butch trans women. Good for you. What a unique grain of sand you are. There's millions of other girls to pick from. Most of us didn't transition to feed your addiction so get over yourself.
>>43737856i liked reading this actually bdsm is awesome to learn about
>>43734791NoMan up YwnbawKeep your sissy fetish in bed
>>43734791what the fuck is a mef
>>43738886A man with a sissy fetishCis men who think women are an inferior species and being one is a corruption and submission kink for themIt’s men who want to wear heels and a skirt and bras cause they get turned off from the embarrassment of pretending to be female.
>>43738905Yep. It's not about yucking their yum but how it bleeds out into other aspects of their personality which is often misogyny or preformative homophobia to keep up appearance and how they treat complete strangers who did fuck all to them.
>>43739138Some of them even pretend to be trans because it turns them on and they literally invade spaces that arent for them and ruin life for real trans people and women
>>43738905>>43739138>>43739152sneedhon hands typed thisin the end mefy troons make it more often precisely because they dont have these brainworms
>>43739152I've been called that myself just because I don't have genital dysphoria or think that womanhood is reduced to a womb. People are complicated and hypocritical often for the sake of ego or projecting their own insecurities or veiled fetishes so I now I just stomp through those eggshells. I'm a girl with a dick. It's not for the sake of a turn on for me or anyone else on or makes me less of a girl. My existence doesn't invalidate those with genital dysphoria and some of them are acting just like TERFs where my genitals defines my gender. That's where they need to take a huge step back and realize they're in the wrong by shunning and peer pressuring others. I'll always support and have sympathy for those who do but it doesn't feel like it's being returned by the vocal minority. And maybe that's a good thing because if that's how they view women or as a sum of their gender, I don't want to be a part of that club. I'm so disgusted with all that behavior it's how I know I'm a trans girl dragging my ass through the coals when I could've just been non-binary to avoid all this posturing and sexism. But being oneself isn't easy.
>>43739430I’m a mef bitter hon I know wgat Im talking about
>>43739430Sure. I'm a hon and have no delusions I'll match everyone's preferences. So whatever. People are still into that and we're going to have fun doing it so cope with your decadence of sour grapes and shit sandwiches.
>>43739602Girls can have penises it’s true but how you feel about it and your plans for surgery matter more.Having no bottom dysphoria is weird when that part of the most masculine literally a measurement for how manly someone is.It doesn’t need to be a turn on to have a penis, but let’s be honest men enjoy their dicks and half the time only think how to get it wet.If that doesn’t describe you then IdcBut like be honest with yourself and admit it would be much better ti have a vagina abd actually do something about it instead of being passive
>>43739668I'm indifferent when it comes to genitals regardless of how they got there. If there was a world where I could swap them back and forth or combine them or have a prehensile tentacle clit for however long, I would, but we aren't there yet in a way that wouldn't make my dysphoria feel worse. That's the issue with those who romanticize SRS and bully or manipulate those who don't want it or have regrets later. If people want to fuck me they can fuck my asshole. If they don't like that due to a strict pussy fetish, phalliophobia, or analphobia it's not my problem. I'd sooner be an outcast to them than use my transition to cater to someone else. Your views are also very sexist and it's okay to be attracted to women and their genitals rather than hating on men when women can be just as perverted as you've put men into the degenerate catigory. Take care.
>>43739856Your transition is a fetish got itBye
>>43735344GIWTWM but now I'm an old fart
>>43739856>I'm indifferent when it comes to genitals regardless of how they got there. If there was a world where I could swap them back and forth or combine them or have a prehensile tentacle clit for however long, I would, but we aren't there yet in a way that wouldn't make my dysphoria feel worse. That's the issue with those who romanticize SRS and bully or manipulate those who don't want it or have regrets later. If people want to fuck me they can fuck my asshole. If they don't like that due to a strict pussy fetish, phalliophobia, or analphobia it's not my problem. I'd sooner be an outcast to them than use my transition to cater to someone else. Your views are also very sexist and it's okay to be attracted to women and their genitals rather than hating on men when women can be just as perverted as you've put men into the degenerate catigory. Take care.waowYeah, it's really disgusting that some girls seem to want to pressure other people into a life-changing surgery and make them feel "not valid" if they don't want it, or if they have apprehensions, or if they're unsure, etc.I don't know if I want it or not yet, but what I am sure of is that, if I do it, it's gonna be for me, not for other people.t. ranny
>>43739635i'm not your enemyi'm just another "fake" trans. im just tired of being called sissy when i'm married and post op just because i wasnt dysphoric
>>43740516Unironically what does it mean when a tranny says they aren’t dysphoric? Like, the form of your body or masculine things about you never bothered you?
>>43740643>Unironically what does it mean when a tranny says they aren’t dysphoric? Like, the form of your body or masculine things about you never bothered you?picrelated.
>>43734791Many MEF here did it. There was a MEF general where people shared their experiences
>>43740669Pic related is me unironically
>>43740643zero history of dysphoria as a kid or teentrooned at 22 for the fetishif i had failed i would have been meh about it.
>>43740738After you began transitioning were you ever distressed over things like your genitals or male skeletal features?
>>43740789nopei did want srs more tho, iganother nona put it best that i "suffer" from gender euphoria rather. i am happier but not by much. idk how to explain it.the fact that ~15yrs ago i was a straight man and now i live as a straight woman puts a smile on my face
>>43741002I see. Based, I guess
>>43741017idkultimately im just a perv but at least im a happy one
>>43741002Straight man to straight woman is the holiest of pipelines tbhon
>>43741131I always felt like if my bf left me as a result of trooning I’d try dating a woman next. Life lived as a man and as a woman with zero straight encounters, the true super gay
>>43741131btw >>43741154 is not meidk about holy, but i can definitely tell a stiry to my brother's kids. lived as straight man, bifag, fag, sissy, tranny and now wifeeven if one day i end up not liking this anymore, these years were still well spent; tho as srsoid detrooning would be a crap option so i'll be auntie nona, loloverall the biggest win is no longer being into women.
>>43734791All men should transmaxx unironically
>>43741225waowI've just been a repressed weirdo the entire time so idk if was ever straight or not and now I'm androphilic of questionable gender
>>43741542>androphilicunironically all you need is a loving manthe right man helps clarify a lot
>>43741754I have a bf but it's long distance where we only meet irl every now and then. Wish we were both younger though because dating like this at my age feels weird.
>>43741771>at my agei met my husband at age 28the only tranny i talk with irl met her husband at 30im 37 now and i hooe i wont have to date again but, if need be, i willlet go of shame and live! take it from the 'fake' tranny who faked it till she made it
>>43735344its hot until i remember im ugly and unc
>>43741826I'm 26 rn and the next time he visits will be for my 27th birthday Started HRT right after turning 25
>>43741889right, same :( :( :(
Yes bc sometimes they turn out like this lol
>>43741889>>43742086lets do group suicide girlies
>>43734791If they're dysphoric and have a shot at passing, then sure why not.
>>43741002this "transitioned for the fetish" really just seems like "transitioned for gender euphoria".
>>43745205>t. didn't even go to r*ddit before just came straight up from facebook
>>43744952I don't want to but I feel you sometimes>>43745205Gender Euphoria is distinguishable from fetish how?
>>43745394I thought “euphoria” was just transitioning feeling good (not sexually)
>>43745412>>43745229
>>43745394my life is devoid of hope or meaning, im ready to punch the ticket
>>43745412I guess, euphoria carries a stronger connotation >>43745677Nah we all have hope
>>43745412in my case it was primarily sexual tho
>>43744485Cumming inside a MEF princess and seeing her crazy turned on and humiliated by it at the same time would be amazing
>>43747547>and humiliatedit's not humiliating, anonwhen he cums in my srussy it's hot and a calm reminder that i'm a womant >>43741826
>>43747898>it's not humiliating, anonI hate that moids think they're degrading and humiliating you when they have sex with you. Goes for both the ones that date trans women and the ones that date cis women, too.
>>43747916i mean i am mef so ig why they think thatit's just that the humiliation part is not him cumming in me, nor the part that i crave it, but the fact that i used to be a straight mantbhon im not bothered anymore by these things. loving marriage stabilizes a tranny
>>43748093gigachaser here. I really don't know why the idea of being permanently married to a tranner who loves me (and vice versa) is such an unbelievable turn on. big bonus if they're MEF. don't care if they have srsussy or not.idk what's evolutionarily wrong in my head that makes me want that far more than any cis girl, because I'm only attracted to femininity.