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Are men seen as less than women or something?
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we live in a matriarchal hell where women control everything and hate men, especially gay men, so most gay men are castrating themselves and pretending to be women to make women happy because women feel threatened by gay men existing

women are treated 1000000x better than men are
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up
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>>43742620
For me it's less about status, gender wars or wanting to be attracted to myself. It's dysphoria which few can understand. Imagine one you woke up looking like me. Now of course you might love that due to your own dysphoria or dysmorphia and think I'm just crying over spilt privilege. You could get creative and do a bunch of fantasy writing to dismiss this for the sake of being flippant and smug but for many of us with dysphoria it's still our own reality. We can't stand the thing looking back at us. It's not really self hate in the more traditional sense but discomfort and feeling out of place within our own body. Like the grey matter above is piloting a meat bag that isn't ours. Now transitioning isn't perfect and even those who pass perfectly are still going to find flaws and have moments of spiraling. But things like hrt and affirming care still helps take some of the shit out of the bag. I'm not sure if any of that makes sense, is fully accurate or relatable to anyone else, or you that even care. But that's what it is for me.
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>>43743188
dysphoria is caused by gender roles
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>>43742639
Afghanistani 9 year old girl surely is in control of her uncle marrying & raping her
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>>43742620
Effeminate gay men are seen as less than, yes.
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>>43743197
>the entire world is afghanistan
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>>43742639
more like a staceyarchal hell
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>>43742620
Yes
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>>43743197
when I was 9 everyone bullied me and ignored me if they didn't
having an older man take care of me and show interest in me would have been a dream
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>>43742620
transgenders are seen as worse than anything so being seen as a woman sucks but it is better than being seen as a 'tranny'
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>>43743234
being trans is way more accepted than being gay
many many more countries legally recognize trans women marrying men than men marrying men
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>>43743265
i dont live in those countries and you probably dont either retard i dont care what the ragheads are doing
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>>43743192
We can argue that all day but there is still such things as self image that even with a completely nonbinary world, some people would still have forms of dysphoria and dysmorphia about. You're still applying a hypothetical to real world dynamics which is just not realistic and does nothing to move forward a philosophical or cultural discussion. And this is coming from someone who was very non binary and rejected gender rolls and expected sexual characteristics. But that was still a means to question cultural expectations and not the needs of an individual. You're trying to apply a collective ideal to a race that is not that homogeneous. We all have our own expressions of individuality even if some of those expressions are shared with others.
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>>43743300
you have no idea what it would be like to grow up without being told all the time that women are better than men, innocent, and untouchable
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>>43743319
Not at all what was being talked about in my comment or what OP posted but I don't want to entertain your incel alpha bro misogyny
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>>43743273
not just raghead countries, much of asia, africa, south america, and eastern europe operate this way
trans women can marry men if they get SRS, gay men cannot marry men at all (legally)

>>43743395
misogyny is a rational reaction to women abusing social power to harm men
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>>43743207
>only the parts of the world that fit my irrational worldview can be mentioned
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>>43743412
Women can marry men in those countries and sometimes trans women were able to obtain status as a female legally. It only has to do with whether their legally recognized sex is female or not. Not with being a tranny.
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>>43743545
>its just a coincidence you can loophole around the prohibition on gay marriage by castrating yourself
it's not a bug, it's a feature
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bump
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>>43743273
if you look at population the vast majority of south americans get to have gay marriages, when you are solely counting the countries then its 6 countries have gay marriage, 5 countries dont and 1 has homosexuality criminalized
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>>43744625
In the non dark-blue countries, are trans women allowed to marry men?
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>why is it so important
Its not. I dont give a fuck about gender intellectually. But sadly my brain doesnt care and still acts like this anyways. Its like a migraine there is no real reason your brain is signalling pain to you becouse nothing us really wrong and you cant do anything to stop it
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>>43742620
I've always believed men and women should be seen as socially equal. How I wish to be seen is a matter of personal preference
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>>43744690
that won't happen till we end female privilege



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