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>go to cons and art stores and buy cool stickers, tableware, keychains and things that you will use or make things you use daily cooler Each one of these makes your life 0.1% better and it builds up quick

>if you think "I'm not like cis women I don't have high standards" you will spend the next few years failing you way into realising why cis women act the way they do from first principles

>if you're early on in trooning buy high quality basic gender neutral clothes that are built to last if you buy skirts and dresses you'll wear them once and then cringe and never wear them again buy high quality jeans, shoes and avoid alternative fashion until you get normal fashion

>don't take non prescribed medication or drugs on a regular basis unless you are ok becoming reliant on them

>you can't underestimate how important vegetables and home cooking are to your mental health, learn how to cook healthy meals

>if you're trans most of the other trannies you meet will be mentally ill with arrested development, somehow irl ones are worse than the ones online

>you need a healthy irl social life with at least 3 platonic friends you meet with on a regular basis, online friendships are foreplay for actual human connection, online relationships are only for the mentally ill and desperate
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>>43760690
>transbians talk about misogyny a lot, it's mainly projection from reversing the concept of "women are sex objects" to "men aren't sex objects" and expanding that to "if men aren't sex objects why are they here"
>if someone talks about misogyny only in anime or vidya the person talking likely cares only about tone policing
>if a cis woman talks about it societally tho you should 100% listen to her

>beware of autism traps: MMOs, gacha, collectables. they are designed to manipulate autistic people into spending your time and money on it, you need to have failsafes on your brain to not fall for them and to notice when you have fallen and to manage it appropriately or just avoid it
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>>43760690
>buy high quality basic gender neutral clothes
how do i select what's better?
>avoid alternative fashion until you get normal fashion
why?
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>>43760789
usually the quality is consistent among brands
Google the brand in question and see what people say
if it's a shein fast fashion gig maybe not but try more pricey high street brands

you most likely will either grow out of alternative fashion or the specific pieces you get you won't wear anymore
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>>43760789
You can also go for cheap, casual neutral clothes like sweatpants.
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>>43760690
>arrested development
Thats literally me!!
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>>43760823
where do i find ideas what clothes to buy and how to combine them
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>>43761126
invite your friends to hang out and look in clothes stores
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This is true
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>>43760690
High standards for what?
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>>43761202
relationships
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>>43760690
>>go to cons and art stores and buy cool stickers, tableware, keychains and things that you will use or make things you use daily cooler Each one of these makes your life 0.1% better and it builds up quick
oh i actually got a new bag today and put these on it, i thought they were cute and were much better on the bag than being hidden away on my keychain and stuff
>buy high quality basic gender neutral clothes that are built to last
oh yeah, i think places like uniqlo are actually pretty excellent for that
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>>43760690
Solid list. I didn’t heed the part about collectibles fortunately which means I can profit enough from selling them to pay for a surgery or two lol
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the last one is the only thing i havent done anything to work towards but i think thats mostly cause im bpd and i dont really care for people anymore since i view them as vapid
most people fucking suck
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>>43760768
The first half makes no sense at all. Basically you mean transbian are retarded and listen to cis women?
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life advice from a 28 year old repper

>it doenst get better

>it doenst get better

>it doenst get better

>it doenst get better

>it doenst get better

>it doenst get better
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All this says is just have enough money btw
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life advice from a 29 year old failtroon

>dont try and transition because you wont pass and will just be a monster
>dont try and get a job because nobody will hire you because you're a freak, and you cant handle it anyway
>dont try and make friends because everyone is repulsed by you
>dont try and practice solitary hobbies because you arent good at anything
>drugs are fun
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advice from a 29 year old tranny
>just be a person
>enjoy
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>>43762379
cant
dont
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>>43762404
suit yourself
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>>43760690
Great advice op couldn't have said it better myself
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>>43762514
not up to me
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>>don't take non prescribed medication or drugs on a regular basis unless you are ok becoming reliant on them
Huh? You mean like DIY HRT or some psychoactive drugs?
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>life advice from a 30yo tranny:
>be successful academically
>nothing else matters
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>>43762651
Yeah this is it isn't it :/
What's your field nona, if I might ask?
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>>43762704
Maths but I'm reorienting into biophysics
Idk i don't feel the need to care about anything else. My biggest dream in life is to be a renowned expert in my field lol
That said I'm in a stable relationship so do that too ig
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>>43760690
thank you for the advice, sagely old lady
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>>43762651
I didn't put this in there because I'm doing computer science in the uk
it doesn't matter how well I do there's no way I can get a job
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>>43762644
I was referring to weed, cocaine and ADHD meds
hrt is fine to be reliant on
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>>43761267
>oh i actually got a new bag today and put these on it, i thought they were cute and were much better on the bag than being hidden away on my keychain and stuff

those are cute, nona!
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>>43760690
this is good advice, do you have any advice for not being a neet?
>t. 18mtf highschool dropout, never worked before, and i'm pretty much a neet for right now
>>43761267
those are cute! i haven't heard of uniqlo, ty for telling me, there's one in my city
>>43764949
cute picrel, i'm stealing this :)
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>>43764916
Oh alright then. I agree. It's definitely a good idea to not get hooked on xanax or stuff like that.
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>>43760690
lol like half of this list is basically just advice for people with autism, trans or not
decent points though, especially the ones about other trannies (its almost never worth it) and fashion (speaking of buying stuff from cons, i have a ton of merch that ive worn maybe once or twice in my life ugh). maybe dont go to uniqlo though, although shopping from an actual store is at least better than all the babytrans buying fucking amazonbasic fits (also guilty i have some terrible skirts from a dropshipper i bought when i was in my femboy phase a decade ago)

>>43760789
alt fashion is not presentable in almost all professional environments + if you dont know what youre doing you will look like shit. better to start with something more normal both to learn styling and so you have something to wear to work/events/whatever. i dont even mean like formal wear, you can wear jeans to work ykwim
if you already know how to style ofc the second part doesnt apply but if you already knew how to style youd probably already have normal clothes

>>43762159
meh a lot of this is actionable even if youre broke lol, i think telling autistic nonas to eat healthy and not dress like troonjacks is pretty reasonable

>>43765032
nta but if youre 18 you have your whole life ahead of you, much easier to seek employment or education if youre not 30. unfortunately hard to give specific advice without knowing why youre a neet lol, have you had a job before? high school diploma?
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>>43765539
i'm taking my last highschool equivalency test this wednesday so i'll have a diploma soon! i dropped out because i tried to 41% last year, ever since then i've been pretty much doing nothing. i don't think i could do 4 more years of school anyway.
i've never had a job other than like babysitting when i was 14. i'm so terrified of getting one. i spend all day online, i feel like i'm destined to waste away on my computer for the rest of my life until i kms in a few years. i know i'm probably just lazy and edgy, and i'm throwing away every privilege i have (white privileged midshit and i get to not be homeless), i just am so, so lost. sorry.
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>>43766386
my "brother" is 30 and in the same position as you. you could be doing so, so much worse
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>>43766393
i'm scared i'm going to end up like "him," uh, them. why in quotation marks, anyway?
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>>43760768
>transbians talk about misogyny a lot, it's mainly projection from reversing the concept of "women are sex objects" to "men aren't sex objects" and expanding that to "if men aren't sex objects why are they here"
as a 36 year old tranny. this all sounds like a child giving advice but this is silly or if touch nonsense
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>>43766404
he has more legitimate claims to being trans than i do, but he took the kiwifarms path instead
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>>43760690
you're right but buying stickers and stuff is just conspicous consumption.

If you can the best advice is to move to a big city
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>>43760690
niggas really be out here like
>the blind leading the blind
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>>43766386
hi im the nona you were replying to. youre 18 lol its very much not too late for you. getting a job isnt that scary i think, but im also not very familiar with the career pathways without higher ed (phd hon here). i think youll feel a lot better if you start participating in actual society, i felt super doomed until i started actually working lol

>>43766440
shes 23 lol its only natural
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>>43760690
Let me add morenas a ftm.
Yes get the basics, but make sure the basics look female. Someone mentioned unicloth but unicloth doesnt always look female,.more genderneutral. If you dont know where to shop, literally ask any woman. They all shop at the same places H&M always a good safe pick. Get urself a good push up bra and some panties. What woman surrounding me have always said, if you feel like you look ugly, were pretty underwear underneath youll always feel a little prettier.

Now that its summer, by like a cute crop top or something. No male wears that. Get ligjt colors or pastels (not pastels in the femboy way' or florals. Those read more female. Just look at what any female ur age walkinh on the streat wears and copy it.

Next learn make up. It aint that hard. You can buy all the makeup you need for the next 3 years for about 30€. 'Weeherh makeup is so hard i dont know where to start' do what every female has done. Look at youtube makeup tutorials. Learning makeup is purely experience, you need to do it A LOT to get better. See it as an art skill. You cant draw after 1 drawing.

Next hygiene. Please. Have hygiene. What disgust a lots of people about hons is them being ogres. Hair looks like its dipped into a frying pan. Wash ur hair every 2 days with shampoo and conditioner. Beuah ir fucking amelly ahh teeth and tongue twice a day. Wear deodorant and perfume. Be normal. And its more than just appearance. Clean ur fucking house. No piss on ur toiletseat and poostains in the toilet. Be aware that ur bathrooms needs to be cleaned atleast once a week, kitchen also. Livingroom and bedroom too. Ur bedsheets once a week. Put ur clothes in the washer after use. Have a healthy diet and exersize. A fully stocked fridge(like a mom, and not an empty one like a divorced dad) youd say these are all normal things but i have yet to meet a hon who did all these things.
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>>43767209
>Put ur clothes in the washer after use
you mean hamper right? i'm not wasting that much water and detergent cleaning my clothes twice a day
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>>43760690
>from a 23 year old
Why is a kid giving out advice? You're not even one quarter through life.
>go to cons and art stores and buy cool stickers, tableware, keychains and things that you will use or make things you use daily cooler Each one of these makes your life 0.1% better and it builds up quick
Consoooming is cringe and and what you're describing is a waste of money and will make you pass less, unless you're in an asian country.
>cis women act the way they do from first principles
We are not cis women and you'll need to figure out for yourself what level of standards you're capable of living with. If your standards are in the stratosphere, prepare to be alone for the long haul.
>somehow irl ones are worse than the ones online
Patently not true. I'd rather meet an irl boomerhon or straightoid any day than meet an irl terminally online transbian. The latter is usually detached from reality in multiple ways and is more likely to sexually assault you than a cis man.
>transbians talk about misogyny a lot
They do, but the reality is that what they are experiencing is not misogyny or "transmisogyny", is just plain transphobia. The people who commit it don't view trannies as women so their abuse is categorically not misogyny. The trannies who try to frame any negative trans experience as a product of mysogyny are beyond insufferable, and are usually the same people who will stoop to any level to get a crumb of attention from a cis woman.
>if a cis woman talks about it societally tho you should 100% listen to her
Exhibit A
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>>43768659
>The trannies who try to frame any negative trans experience as a product of mysogyny are beyond insufferable

All transphobia is misogyny and derived from the idea that you have a divine biological destiny based on what you were assigned at birth and that people with vaginas are inferior and people with penises should never lower themselves to the condition of people with vaginas. It is so very obviously misogyny.
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What a privileged life you must lead.
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>>43768676
>the idea that you have a divine biological destiny based on what you were assigned at birth
The way you describe it makes it more like misandry than misogyny. The people who believe this trash do not see you as a woman.
>that people with vaginas are inferior and people with penises should never lower themselves to the condition of people with vaginas.
You've clearly never spoken to an actual transphobic person. They do not view hormonal transition or SRS as lowering ourselves to the condition of womanhood because they think those things are invalid or don't work. They view it as "mentally ill faggotry" and nothing more.
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>>43768695
>You've clearly never spoken to an actual transphobic person. They do not view hormonal transition or SRS as lowering ourselves to the condition of womanhood because they think those things are invalid or don't work. They view it as "mentally ill faggotry" and nothing more.

You're scratching the surface but you need to dig deeper. Why is "faggotry" bad?
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>>43768659
how old are you?
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>>43767209
you view femininity the same way Grindr sissies do
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>>43768966
>you view femininity the same way Grindr sissies do

what did they mean by this
her post is just good advice
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>>43760768
>beware of autism traps: MMOs, gacha, collectables.
hey!
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>>43760768
~40yo teen transitioner here. Pretty good life advice over all. Except for this.
>>transbians talk about misogyny a lot, it's mainly projection from reversing the concept of "women are sex objects" to "men aren't sex objects" and expanding that to "if men aren't sex objects why are they here"
That's definitely not the case. Men, over all, do not see women as people. The older you get as you live as female, the more painfully obvious this becomes. And the more obvious that most men are literally children becomes as well. They do not really care about your feelings beyond whether or not it limits their access to you. Doesn't even have to be sexually.

After all, they flat out say they see us as children themselves, because we get upset when they refuse to take us seriously.

And remember, play it by ear. Rules are meant to be broken.
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>>43768768
I was not screamed at and beaten by teachers in elementary school for holding hands with a boy because of misogyny. Get real, dude.

>>43769274
>Men, over all, do not see women as people.
Explain what you mean by that, please.
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>>43768952
In my 30s
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>>43769532
>I was not screamed at and beaten by teachers in elementary school for holding hands with a boy because of misogyny. Get real, dude.

I'm not a dude you dumbass moid. Why the fuck are you sitting here arguing about misogyny and transmisogyny if you're just a gay man and not even a woman?
And yes you were. Misogyny is what leads society to think being gay is degrading, because the men are reducing themselves to the role of the woman (dating men). Dumbass.
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>>43769532
What is there to explain? They see us as basically cattle and property that outputs babies and sex occasionally. They do not view us as partners in crime. Just animals to be managed.

There are exceptions to this, obviously.
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the bird says to the fish, "how can you live, so trapped in the water?"
the fish replies, "how can you live, so trapped in the sky?"
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>>43769586
>not recognizing that dude has been gender neutral for over a decade now
Autism moment.
>if you're just a gay man and not even a woman?
I'm a post-op MtF who's engaged to a man, you stupid tranny.
>And yes you were. Misogyny is what leads society to think being gay is degrading, because the men are reducing themselves to the role of the woman (dating men). Dumbass.
Ignorant and desperately trying to act like a cis woman type of opinion. Homophobia exists because cisoids think gay sex is disgusting, think that men who aren't behaving mascilulinely are disgusting, and can't think of anything beyond "if sex parts not used for god's purpose, then it wrong!" Do you think every homophobe in the world also beats their wife for being a woman? Get real, dude.
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>>43769618
>They see us as basically cattle and property that outputs babies and sex occasionally.
What is that assertion based on? I definitely think men see women as "an other" but for most men I think it stops at "not men" rather than "not human"? Do you only talk to incels or something?
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>>43760690
such bad advice, another "just make friends" by a presumed passoid like okay
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>>43769618
>What is there to explain?

You're talking to a moron, nona.
They're just gonna insist that what they already believe is true because they couldn't possibly be wrong, just like they did in claiming the right to dictate to other people what gendered terms they can and can't call them.
Save your breath nona
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>>43769712
Never take advice from creepy transbians.
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>>43769759
>the right to dictate to other people what gendered terms they can and can't call them
Says the tranny calling other trannies "moid"
Lmao what a pathetic hypocrite.
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>>43769812
>hypocrite

I will continue to assume everyone who uses male-centric frat boy language like "dude" is a man and if you don't like that you can just stop talking like one, glowie.
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>>43769803
i didnt even know shes a transbian, thats not the problem here
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>>43769712
>just make friends
>just be straight
>just be rich
>just be white
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>>43769829
>everyone who uses male-centric frat boy language like "dude"
Guess I should tell my 3 cisgender sisters to stop calling each other that, then.
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>>43769887
she's like 40 and terminally online so she doesn't understand that even 10 y/o cis girls call each other "bro" now
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>>43769925
I'm not her, man. Pretty sure I'm the only middle aged in the thread.
>>43769705
Life experience, lots of observation, lots of relationships. That, and being in spaces online where people go outside, have marriages, etc, but don't know I am basically female because I never bring it up. It's enlightening to be stealth female online. You should try it some time, just don't correct people in spaces, see what happens.
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>>43770129
i am an ACTUAL feminist, so i transitioned to destroy gender roles, not reify them
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>>43770129
What online spaces do you use? This board is genuinely the only online place I use anymore since deleting all of my social media over a decade ago when I trooned. The only friends I have are irl ones.
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>>43770129
>>43770221
Should've clarified, here is the only online place anymore that I do more than just lurk/browse.
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>>43770129
"im a luckshit passoid stealth and that somehow makes me capable on giving advice" youre so out of touch
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>>43770249
NTA, but why are you so mad?
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>>43770217
And I'm an actual transsexual, I transitioned to fix my crippling body dysmorphia from sexual development issues. I couldn't give a shit about gender roles.
>>43770221
Lots of game spaces when I was in my 20s. MMOs, misc shooters, chatrooms around them, chatrooms around various irl hobbies, etc. I usually just kept my mic shut off. It's eye opening.
>>43770249
I was tossed out on the street and had to do survival sex work back in the early 2000s. I'm a bit broken, but I'm one of the few who remembers the old times. I am one of the better people to take advice from on here. Just actually do the physical work, give it time, you will eventually pass. Or you're autistic. Womp womp.
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>>43770438
yes, i never claimed to be transsexual and in fact i am not. but shouldn't someone like you know the difference between dysmorphia and dysphoria?
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>>43770331
as i said in>>43769712
>>43770438
>give it time you will eventually pass or youre autistic womp womp
youre such a bad person i wish you get tossed out again you dont deserve anything
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>>43760690
This is just autism
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What if your interests are too niche and autistic to buy pins and memorabilia of.
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>>43770575
They will say I am terrible, but they never tell me I'm wrong.
>>43770487
How's that autism?
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>>43771140
youre wrong because your advice is terrible
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>>43771140
>"I am a TRUE REAL ACTUAL TRANSSEXUAL who transitioned due to body dysMORPHia"
>"YES, i DO know the difference, YOURE just autistic!"
how's that extra chromosome?
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>>don't take non prescribed medication [...] on a regular basis unless you are ok becoming reliant on them
One of the most mindnumbingly useless statements I've ever read. You take prescription drugs exactly because you are reliant on them.
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>>43771279
don't tell them about the expected lifespan of eunuchs who don't take compensatory sex hormones. it's so literally fucked on every level i can't even stand it. take sex hormones out of the body, the body says, "guess i'll die." and christians think a chaste god made this universe? it was the demiurge, bergman's god of impotent rape and hairy spider's limbs with the stolid implaccable face of arthur schopenhauer, who made this smoggy, prurient trashheap of a hell
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>>43771325
Eunuchs literally lived longer than moids though?
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>>43769622
but what does the fox say xd
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>>43760690
>trans life advice
>materialism for +.1% gains
>ur not like real women
>dressing like women feelsbadman
>choose ur drug addictions carefully
>literally vegetables
>those OTHER trannies are mentally ill. Watch out.
>social engineering (not the desperate kind)
Duly noted.
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>>43771333
it depends on when the castration takes place, in the person's life. post-pubescent castration leads to longer-lived eunuchs, but without some kind of sex hormone, we fall victim to chronic ailments like osteoperosis as quickly as menopausal cis women, regardless of our age. whereas the castrati who were neutered to preserve their voices rarely lived to 40. the only reason eunuchs (in the context of historical court eunuchs and similar, which i am assuming is your meaning) lived longer than moids is, dulce et decorum est pro patria mori
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>>43771502
That is DEFINITELY not true. Eunuchs lived far longer than cis men if castrated later in life; and castrati, those who were castrated before puberty, showed no significant difference in lifespan nor general health compared to men and women.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-science-eunuchs-idUSBRE88N0NJ20120924/

Loss of sex hormones is not a death sentence; and there are ways you can get your hands on it. It's theorized enaree used horse boiled crystallized horse urine due to Greek records on their bizarre physiology (read feminized), but we don't actually know.



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