Where are all the mtf butch lesbians at? Butchfemme is such a lovely dynamic but I feel like it's pretty rare to find trans butches here. Where do I find one of you?
so a man
aww yeah it's time, where all the ladies at?
I feel like I'm learning a valuable lesson as to why I can't find any of you here.
>>43772567I'm one, and I've actually never met another one! it seems like most other mtfs have the goal of looking as femme as possible but I feel really awkward in super femme clothing...idk what's up with that
I have a male name and a deep testosteronized voice and wear men's clothing and use he/him pronouns and I might be bisexual but I'M A LESBIAN TOO
>>43772679i fucking hate this artist, why does he make everyone so fucking fat and ugly
>>43772567they are forcing us to "girlmode"
>>43772649I feel like so long as you feel happy, comfy and confident, it's all that really matters. Stone butch blues really opened up my perspective on a lot of this stuff and it's a really good read. It can be pretty depressing, though.
>>43772695don't be a bigot
>>43772706>stone butch bluesthe man pictured on the cover is benito mussolini, no?
>>43772798i dont like seeing ugly people
>>43772839mirrors must be rough for you!
>>43772697I'll save you anon
>>43772567im in philly hi
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>>43772915mogs me
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>>43772871You're so far from me, noooo..
>>43772567>>43773055are you cis or trans? wya?
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>>43773075Cis and from europe
>>43772936Unironically tho shes look fine with some laser and better glasses.
>>43773100>"where's my butch lesbian mtf who will have penis-in-vulva sex with me???"so typical
>>43772567>Butchfemme is such a lovely dynamicwhy do you people love to roleplay heterosexualityid rather stay fem4fem like god intended>>43772830written by a repressing pooner too i can't take these butchxfem dorks seriously
>>43773115lel
>>43773157hey some of us valid rapehons like piv
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>>43772567I'm not really butch more of a boymodder, but the butch aesthetic fits me a lot better than the femme one. so I try going for it when I go out of home.
>>43772567>mtf butch lesbiansthat's literally just a man
>>43773388Do you find you like it, or do you find yourself longing to be more femme?
>>43772567I'm an MTF butch, honestly I wish I knew where to find others like me.You'll probably have more luck with lesbian spaces and groups than trans ones. Trans groups and friends (that weren't explicitly lesbian) have often been weirded out by me being MTF and butch, lesbians are the only ones that *get* it.
>>43773501That makes a lot of sense. I've rarely found butches in general in lesbian spaces, maybe it's unlucky on my part, anxiety makes it difficult to put myself out there like that.
>>43773471I like it desu, the androgynous vibe is cool.the most femme I dress is when I use long skirt sneakers and some sports overcoat, (kinda girlfailure), even if I could pull of something like a dress I probably wouldnt.
>>43773530masc shortage etc
>>43773535I'm glad for you then, anon, that sounds really sweet. >>43773546It really does feel like it
>>43772567>pretty rare to find trans butches hereattractive ones, you mean. there are plenty of hons that are "butch" but butch passoids are probably the rarest kind of passoid, especially ones that are somewhat well adjusted and not insane. but i guess that goes for trannies in general. most trannies have to present unambiguously fem to come across as a woman and get treated like one
I’m a manmoder with a square jaw and I still work out so I’m muscular, so when I go out I aim for a Rhea Ripley kinda look. With the way I’m built, going too femme starts giving John50 sissy vibes
>>43772567they are all getting Sir'd and then giving up.
how butch are we talking
>>43772567Have to be very luckshit for it to work but if it does work it is the hottest type of person that can existI am trying, and god willing I will pull it off. It's very nice to be MTF butch, because you don't mind some of the boyish stuff that you were born/socialized with. Bro got that organic strap you know what I'm sayin, clocky is also fine, acting boyish is also fine, and frankly just the fact you used to be a guy is fine too
>>43772567That pic is hideous.
You get it :) I hope you manage to pull it off anon, I'll be cheering for you.>>43774695That's sad to hear.
>>43774998>>43775057meant to reply to this in my first comment oops
>>43772567I dont understand how to be butch without just being a man
use to be for a couple years and gave up because it made me super depressed. it made me feel so alienated and annoyed because even if i told "woke" people i was a woman I would just get they/themmed and they acted like they were doing me a favor. and then strangers it was 50/50 whether i would get sirred or maamed. plus the femme i was dating would get drunk and start screaming at me and thought since i was a butch i had to deal with it. theres no happiness to be found in being butch mtf. no reason not to be a gender conforming woman if youre trans. i just got ffs and have been growing my hair out and decided to fully commit to passing and to being a femme woman. have been learning make up recently and its made me way happier than trying to be butch ever made me.
>>43772567mtf butch or masc is like THE hardest thing for a trans girl to pull off while passing. I know of one example. She's a rad tomboy, but that's it.
I’m a butch mtf and don’t think that’ll ever change. I’ve always been uneasy around super fem stuff and am more than happy to remain in a kind of gender zone. I read stone butch blues and related a lot in a weird way, and feel like if I was born cis I would be even more masc-presenting than I already am.
I wish I could be a cool hot butch/tomboy tranny like that
>butch>mtfis this just some gigacope for mom aged hons? you're not ''butch'' you're just a gorilla
YoJust posted in the wrong thread This is me>>43777136
>>43776904That's really sweet, anon. It makes me really happy you've found your identity you can really connect with.>>43777307Looking good! You must put a lot of effort into working out
trans lesbians are meant to be femmescis lesbians are meant to be butchesthis is the natural order
>>43772567I'm surprised to see people saying this is rare, a lot of the lesbian trans girls in my area are butch. Although for a lot of them it's definitely a cope for feeling too awkward/embarrassed to commit to girlmoding, or fear of trying to be feminine and failing.
>>43776766>no reason not to be a gender conforming woman if youre trans.hmidk im really not very conforming in general >>43777286>is this just some gigacopeyeah but also nah
>>43772567>Where do I find one of you?idk i chill on drug discords i didnt know people like me are looked after because the hyperfemmes get all the attention while im lowkey just like a guy
>>43778028>I'm surprised to see people saying this is rare, a lot of the lesbian trans girls in my area are butch.>Although for a lot of them it's definitely a cope for feeling too awkward/embarrassed to commit to girlmoding, or fear of trying to be feminine and failing.Second sentence answers the first. It makes it hard for MTF butches who are actually intentionally butch to find community with other MTF butches. MTF butchcopers typically still try to be feminine, and don't really have much investment in butch community or identity, beyond having a label that means "mannish lesbian woman". The thing that's rare is finding a MTF butch that is actually intentionally butch.
so the "butch" is just the one who gets the amabjacket? god, i hate women
theymabs on hrt
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