>see trans woman irl (i can't tell initially)>typically tall>looks cute>starts talking>complete man voice?????????Why don't they train their voice to fully pass? Or at least put in some effort
>>43780106cause voice training is hard bitch.
>>43780106Voice training requires a lot of time and effort with relatively little noticeable gain, at least initially. I still think every single tranny should voice train, but as soon as you've gone through natal puberty, the difficulty skyrockets because now you're not just learning mannerisms, you need to actively work against the physical makeup of your vocal tract. There's some surgeries but they're fairly risky and the results may not be worth that risk, and even with those you still need to voice train. Maybe that girl just didn't have any energy left, maybe she can't afford a good trainer, at the end of the day most of us are busy enough just living our lives. Transition is hard. Voice training is hard. Or if you want the tl;dr: >>43780131
>>43780106every trans woman I've heard talking about voice training sounds nasally as fuck, there's no winning
>>43780106Every fucking time. If your voice doesn't pass over the phone you should detrans
>>43780161Every tranny should effortmaxx voice. No ifs ands or buts.
>>43780131>>43780161Maybe its just me but in my experience vocal training itself isn't that tough, it just a matter of figuring out HOW to do it. Like you'll hear all these guides and videos talking about controlling your pitch and resonance and speaking from your head instead of your chest and wondering what the fuck they're talking about but eventually you have a sort of "OHHHHH now I get it..." moment and it all clicks into place. Training your vocal muscles helps to do it consistently and without making your throat sore but if you don't understand what you're doing you'll just end up with "gay voice"
>>43780106lazy
I trained my transbian voice but it's not that good. A chaser on here said it sounded nice at least
>>43783210I lied, sorry
>>43783210Why did you mention that you're transbian and why did you feel like mentioning that a chaser thinks you have a nice voice? Are you transBIan?
>>43783485>Why did you mention that you're transbianBecause this board hates transbians > that a chaser thinks you have a nice voice? Are you transBIan?I guess because he was the only person who had anything to say about it. I'm not bi
>>43783531Wow you're such a victim. Let's hear your voice then.
>>43783536And you're a manlet
>>43783553Right. Voice?
