Would anyone fem or looking to be fem consider being a live in free use maid to a rich guy in a major city with their own house, in return for anything you want to become more fem and a better maid?Why or why not?
>>43780194I would sign up for it and just be the worst maid imaginable I'm lazy and a moid
sure
>>43780194Yes, I was meant to be a homemaker, it really brings me joy, I love cooking, I love having a clean space, I wouldn’t mind being abused I can handle it
>>43780203Sounds like the maid life isn't for you>>43780210What part of the offer appeals to you?
everybody oughta have a working girleverbody ought to have a lurking girl (me)to putter about the house
>>43780194yes but I’m a service sub who likes maid roleplay
>>43780194I would Because I’m an introvert who likes to clean I grew up in a big house I miss it I’d look cute in a maid outfit too
>>43780213Unfortunately no. Too much of a burnout and have all sorts of weird pains in my upper body. Maybe if I was younger this lifestyle could have been ideal.
>>43780212I didn't mention abuse. I don't think a master should abuse a maid, except perhaps as behavior correction.>>43780220>>43780216What about maid play appeals to you?
>>43780229You didn’t have to, I’m just saying I wouldn’t stop you if you did
>>43780226I'm sorry to hear that. I hope you don't suffer like that forever.
>>43780213i just like doing chores for people i like working
>>43780234Why is that?>>43780237I see. And the free use part of the equation?
>>43780243i mean sure that too thats fine by me i was more focused on just the doing maid chores for people part but wutever
>>43780235Unfortunately it seems to be tied to estrogen :(Flaring up recently because I just went back on a full dose after doing a slightly lowered dose for a few weeks.
>>43780259Hopefully you can find a dosing regime suitable for your body, or it acclimates to its new hormonal load.I'm rooting for you.
>>43780275Thank you master anonngl there is a strong part of me that fantasizes about this kind of maid thing but I am too old for it.
>>43780243>whyI dunno, probably unresolved childhood trauma sir, like really I’m down to do anything but I’ll make sure your home is soo clean you could eat off any surface sir.
>>43780391I see. That does sound appealing. What sort of food would you prepare for your master?How do you feel about being free to use?
>>43780286Also I used to fucking love to cook and would cook for my dad all of the time but neuroticism and the pain stuff made it more difficult. I think losing weight genuinely made it harder because it made my shoulders and stuff feel much bigger relative to everything else. He would work from home while we were taking care of my sick sister and I would make him grilled sandwiches and curry and pasta w/ homemade sauce.
>>43780194only if i get to work alongside other maidstaff.
>>43780556How many other maids would make a suitable staff?
>>43780194Genuinely I'd love to, I put alot of work into my maid uniform and I'd love to get to do more cleaning in it while being proper and serving the home owner tea or his favorite glass of whiskey. Cleaning is a bit therapeutic, it feels nice getting to tidy up rooms that need vacuuming, kitchens that need their counters wiped, and wearing the uniform feels great its all the perfect situation.
>>43780760What about morning and night service?
>>43780686in the ballpark of 5-20. Depends how rich he is after all. Sure, there would inevitably be drama, but if we're all working for the same thing- feminization from our master, it would be in our best interest not to start shit.
>>43780858Logistically how would this work with only one master? I feel like he wouldn't have enough time in the day.
>>43780858Unfortunately, I can support around 3, but not a full stable.>>43780871I could keep up with 3 full time; I currently deal with around 5 over the course of a week, which is maintainable.At 10, you'd need to be super human.
>>43780453I only bottom, my highest ranking in the kitchen was sous chef/assistant head chef and while that was American/european food I specialize in Korean and traditional Japanese foods. I also love to bake, which has been a hobby of mine since childhood.
>>43780945Obviously. A master can only top.That's right up my alley, actually.
>>43780934I could possibly see being one of a few, maybe serving some kind of managerial or kitchen role. I feel like I'm supposed to be a mom of some kind tbhon.
>>43780871>>43780934The thing with being a maid, is, the master doesn't particularly need to direct you on what to do. Honestly, it would probably be orders from the head maid. Some would launder, some would clean, some would ready food, some would run errands. Sure the master could pull them aside, but... usually they're fully functional alone.
>>43781013Yeah but all the maids want attention from the master. The relationship is symbiotic.
>>43781033And a master wishes to make use of every maid. After all, why have them if not for that very purpose?
>>43781121just to cuddle
>>43781121for status, and to understand that his home will be properly maintained when he leaves. >>43781033the master provides his maids with a roof over their heads, and food in their bellies. that's the intrinsic symbiosis.I would ideally like to be a maid for a master who wouldn't replace me when I get older. Maybe I could rise the ranks and be head maid.
>>43781264That's just being employed. The goal of this particular arrangement is not just material benefits, but the affection of the master.
Trannies will say this shit and then don't know how to cook or clean
>>43780194I have masturbated to such fantasies but actually living them seems like it would become very unsatisfying after like, idk, 2 or 3 hours. Can’t we just be normal people but have gay sex while I wear a maid uniform like God intended?
>>43781287But it's a bit different no? It's employment sure, yet I doubt any of the maids would want to give up such a serene condition. Work would be my entire life really. I live at the behest of the master. There needs to be a balance of "work" and polygamy- which is vaguely being implied.
>>43781332Okay but I literally already have a job that gives me significant freedom. Without affection a master-maid arrangement is pointless.
>>43781347maybe you could do with hiring a few maids of your own then? I am unfortunately, very broke and very scared of being homeless again. Having someone willing to take me in- and all I need to do is preform a few tasks in their home? It would be lovely...
>>43780194I mean yeah I'd consider that desuEverything to become more fem? Like all aspects transition from medical to clothes, body care, skin care, supplies etc?
>>43781318I really need the maid uniform to be high end.>>43781347I see. So you seek a loving maid arrangement.>>43781377As well as morning and night service.>>43781408Correct. Up to and including surgery and augmentation.
>>43781485It would be very nice but I am afraid I would fail to live up to my end of the deal, basically. If I could guarantee that I would, it'd be a different question.
>>43781502What end of the deal is that?
>>43781502Simply, you could do lesser tasks, or just spend more time with your master. It is still a useful service, in a sense. I'd probably only be good at cooking and running errands and tending to a garden. Like i was saying earlier, each maid has specialized duties. That's what makes having such a large staff so effective.
>>43781485I would like a high end maid uniform but don’t know where to get one. Tbh most places just seem to be low quality trash.
>>43781485Is it 24/7 / on call style maid work? Like free use at 2am, or within a working window whilst cleaning, cooking, and other duties?
>>43781546Kind of all of it? I'm moody and the chronic issues I have make a lot of physical labor really uncomfortable (seriously it feels awful even to move my upper body around, like my muscles are wrapped around my bones in a painful way), and sexual trauma makes the kind of sexual availability questionable as well.
>>43780194i would love to do it but i'm already engaged
>>43781558The easiest method is to sew your own or construct it from parts. I'm considering getting a computerized sewing machine to add frills to some existing outfits.>>43781565That could be negotiated either way, depending on your desires for privacy and free time. Probably would still like to use the maid during late night sessions however.>>43781588Glad to hear you found someone, hope it goes well.
>>43781708I mean, everything sounds positive reallyyou ask "would you consider" it sounds like yes lolwhat kind of expectations and requirements are there beyond free use?Physicality, Work, Training, Incoming Skills,
>>43781708still not fully understand- are you looking for maids sexually, or pragmatically. Or do you want to have a bunch of women devoted to you?
>>43781708A real maid outfit needs to be strong, durable, and easily washable. Frills are for show. >>43781964Seems like both.
>>43780194I would do this in a heartbeat, in fact I wish I had some richfag husband or master that would pay for my looksmaxxes while I just do domestic chores all day.
>>43781925Cooking, cleaning, gardening, other things of that nature. As for skills and training, that would be paid for.>>43781964Yes.>>43782078Show is an important part of being a maid as well. But yes, I agree in general.>>43782119Remember, free use is also half of the arrangement.
>>43782242There are also many many many many different styles of maid uniform. Remember, the uniform is a work uniform first and foremost. Sometimes part of that work is a display of wealth.
>>43782253Very true, which to some extent, is what I'm looking for.
>>43782242I'm not sure how useful I could be sexually, but I'd be down to devote myself for someone, as long as I have the ability. If I'm sheltered, I'm happy, I suppose.What would you do If your tranny maids got sick? Either emotionally or physically? Would we need to sort it ourselves, or would we be taken care of?
>>43782242At this point just yeah, I'd do itThis seems easy choice
>>43782287I live in a place with relatively cheap and subsidized health insurance, though some aspects of that are changing next year. It's an active and tumultuous area, but ensuring each maid is properly insured and cared for is part of ensuring they are as fem as possible, in my eyes.As for mental health, I am assuming some level of care will be necessary for anyone willing to accept this position.Are you physically or emotionally in need?>>43782303If I might ask, are there any red lines you would not cross, as well as any blue lines you would consider absolutely necessary?
>>43782265But do you actually have the wealth to display? What uniforms do you have in mind?>>43782336Also the big thing here is insurance coverage. While many places cover SRS, things like FFS aren't typically covered and clavicle shortening and whatnot are even rarer.
>>43782336I tend to pass out easily due to overexertion or high levels of anxieties. My hormonal cycle also makes me mentally unwell by the end of the month.But in the end this is all hypotheticals, so i suppose it doesnt really matter.
>>43782336>red linesUh..I guess weird fetish, and I mean actual weird not 'weird' like knifeplay or smth (i.e. bodily fluids other than semen or urine)It'd probably need some sort of stipend at end of day due to recreation outside of being a maid I'd imagineI'm not a very imaginative person so I can't think of some of the top of my head>Blue linesI don't know what that means...
>>43782373I live in a very high end area, surrounded by actual estates. As for SRS, FFS, etc etc, I have sufficient funds in cash to enhance a maid up to apec. That's not a concern.>>43782390It might be fun to have a fainting goat maid, assuming she's amenable to free use. Kind of adorable really.
>>43782418Oh that's good. Would a maid be 100% live in or would secondary employment be an option?
>>43782418Would your ideal maidstaff have some offtime? Obviously, If there were to be any live-in maids, they would need time to bathe and to rest. But how would you respond to one who wanted to go out for the day? What if she kept requesting time off, shirking her duties, and forcing the other staff to pick up her slack?
>>43782407A red line is a thing you don't want and won't accept. A blue line is a thing you do wanta and won't live without.>>43782434Secondary employment would be possible, but more likely would be contInuing education and training, with a stipend.I would like the maid to expand Their skill set and become a better maid over time, so I am willing to invest.
>>43782456What is the end goal of all of this? In the event that a maid completes her service, would she be fully prepared to enter the workforce with a functioning resume?
>>43782452I'm not a slave driver; I would not be opposed to maids being in and out, here and there. The point is that we all benefit, so unless it was their kink, I would wish to elevate their social lives and reach, not reduce them. I also do live in a major city near some major attractions; one thing I'd like the maids to do is enrich their lives, and by doing so, also enrich my own.With limits, of course. Someone taking advantage of my kindness would be punished and eventually, let go.
>>43782475It would be ideal to enjoy each other's company and function together for an indefinite time. But I have no desires to leave anyone under my employ worse off than they started.The end goal is to enhance my ability to do my work such that all costs are naturally covered by the enhanced productivity, with an eye towards reasonable growth. I've plataued a bit, and I know with even minor effort from a third party, I can expand my reach and ability dramatically farther.In return for such service, I return in kind what is valuable to the maid. Does that make sense?
>>43782478I suppose being taken on a day out would be nice. Morale raised for the entire workforce. Though you'd probably have to leave some home to keep things maintained. You'd make sure to avoid having a favourite maid,,, right OP?Infighting would not be particularly helpful.
>>43782506wait how would this situation enhance your own work other than providing you a clean house and food?
>>43782531clean house, food, errands - most things would be at OP's whim. I'd assume the maidstaff would probably also work as secretaries?
>>43780194Yes, ive only ever done similar work and the benefits seem cool since im from generational povertyIm not a great chef, but I have alot of experience in food prep as a line cook, Im good at cleaning and looking after animals, and I can do bit of massage I learnt growing up but I want to learn more>free use maidUnfortunately my face is horrific so I dont think id fit the bill
>>43782456Most have been fulfilled in other responses thenenrichment, stipend, flexibility. high end area not a blue line, but a bonusI wonder what you do though that requires mutual growth and maids which would enhance it
>>43782531...i am not sure how to read your question, given the final part of the question is the answer. Do you think having the lowest levels of your hierarchy of needs being fulfilled doesn't increase productivity?Sex, sustenance, shelter. I'm offering you one in return for two, and you are asking how that will improve my life?As well, my boon would be your boon; dont you think work would get done much quicker when the maid who fed and emptied me smiled up and says "now time to get back to work, master!", knowing this particular project is paying for their desired feminization regime?>>43782552Perhaps some light secretarial work, supposing the maid is interested in the project.
>>43782553I did say I would pay for anything needed to feminize the maid.Massage sounds like a good skill!>>43782556I do many things. My main profession is system design, but I am not averse to working with my hands.I suppose it might be a bit much to ask you to help me weld? ;)
>>43782596It's just that I don't conceive of the situation as boosting productivity, just convenience, especially with the particular stipulations at hand. I wouldn't be opposed to an arrangement (in a vacuum, if I had no prior commitments and could guarantee I could hold up my end of the deal) but the productivity angle seems unusual. If it was found to not increase productivity, but still increased happiness, would your plans change?
>>43782619Systems design is interesting. I actually have some education in that field (secondary to my actual specializations, but I did consider systems engineering for a time).
>>43782631Well, happiness is a resource the same as any other. One I'm in low supply of, indeed. So that would be most satisfactory. But one thing that's perhaps unstated is, I am not a middle manager or a broker or something. My talents aren't blue collar, but I am very much the person doing the work on a day to day basis, if that makes sense. I get big raises and big bonuses because of substantial effort on my part. That effort has a toll, and so I seek a maid to help alleviate that toll. That helps reduce burn out, and all the actual tasks a maid does gives me time I would otherwise have to spend myself. These have substantial gains to my health, happiness, AND productivity.As well, frequent orgasms are known to enhance productivity.>>43782648You almost certainly have more education on the subject than I! See, finding talents is also a way this could help out.
>>43782619>System designAww I have absolutely no clue what that is so that's a lost topic of conversation unless you have autistic ramblingI like STEM, without the TYou joke about welding, but I've had physical work while years on hrtAssembly Line production, Furniture Moving, Warehousenot that i like it lol, it was super difficult, even before hrt I had no muscle mass
>>43782686I do, though I'm nothing of a scientist myself.And I didn't expect you to know anything about it, so don't worry. I'm sure we simply need to project it into a topic you care about.I see. Are you skinny, or lanky?
>>43782682I won't lie and say that the fantasy isn't appealing, but I don't see how it would remain anything other than a fantasy.
>>43782710I have a fully furnished room and an adequate maid outfit. And funds to make it all happen. I'm not sure what you aren't seeing, honestly.
>>43782682big raises and bonuses- but how much is it? Sure, maids who live with you would probably make a low wage, but if the wage were 20$ an hour, 24/7, that would be 127K. Surely you couldn't finance that - let alone multiple.
>>43782706I'm not sure I'd describe myself as eitherHonestly my family looks like agrarian stout serfs that were fed too much grain5'7 and closer to a dwarf than an elf
>>43782739I'm a pessimist and always have been and the situation is hard to believe. Too many liars and cheats and also a lack of trust in myself let alone others.
>>43782754Let's assume your numbers for the sake of argument, and let's assume I'm paying them upfront, at 20 an hour, 40 hours a week. That's 41,600. You don't get paid while sleeping; that's part of room and board. You may get over time during the night, but not literally the entire night; that's not how on call works.But let's say 50k, which I think is a non poverty wage, given room and board is covered. I could afford over 10 maids with that wage and still put a bid on a house down the street.Now, we may need to send all the maids to Thailand for a package deal on all their surgeries and such. Buy estrogen on bulk from Costco. Sure. But that's the level of wealth we are dealing with here.>>43782769I see, I see. Apologies for such brazen questioning.>>43782771That doesn't sound like you can't see how it would become a reality. It sounds like you are unwilling to take the risks necessary to make it into a reality.There's not really anything anyone can do about that.
>>43782825I'm both surprised, yet skeptical. I wonder how large your current home, in terms of SQFT. I was once friends with a girl whose home was 4500SQFT, four stories, and there were plenty essentially unused rooms which could've been used as quarters. Just if there were multiple maids, would you have the space to accommodate them? By the way you speak about it, I assume you'd want more than just one.
>>43782825Not taken as brazen at allalso goodness, 500k a year and then still have enough for a bid on a houseAre you old money or all of this is from tech?
I offered a tranny on this board a maid arrangement and she backed out at the last minute.
>>43782825okay it's contingent on a few factors:1) you are serious about the arrangement2) you are capable of holding up your end of the arrangement3) you will not renege on the arrangement should the situation not live up to the fantasy4) I am capable of holding up my end of the arrangement 5) I will not renege should the situation not live up to the fantasyAnd that's before getting to other obligations. The premise is, frankly, terrifying without reassurances because it's completely upending someone's life
>>43782619I mean it wouldn't be much different from my current life, I was basically raised with the understanding "the best part about having kids is getting them do stuff for you while you work or relax" so as long as I can still do uni and do work I like Icouldn't ask for more, but sadly things don't usually turn out so fortunately :(
>>43782825if you're doing this it may actually be cheaper to try and set up an insurance plan (assuming US ofc) than to send trannies to Thailand
>>437828891750 sqft in a city where 750 is pretty normal. It's not huge, but you'd think it's a normal house from anywhere in the country. I have three full empty rooms, which is why I said I think 3 would be a good fit.I could be fine with one maid, if they were able to tend to my needs fully. I feel most would want help.>>43782896I think I said earlier, but no generational wealth. However, I am very skilled and in demand....and we could honestly triple that number if I was kept on task and satisfied.>>43782911That also happened to me. Im Sorry for your loss.>>43782947Those are reasonable contingencies.
>>43782825Damn dude wish I was rich and could afford a trans girl maid harem…t. chaser who’s dumb ass went to pharmacy school instead of becoming a rich tech bro
>>43783009Maids could easily share rooms. But i'd assume you'd also want a maid to sleep WITH you nightly? Anyway i'm in the same boat as snoymoder. there's alot of contingencies. I'd likely have to move far away, break all my (recently formed) social connections, and live with someone who may possibly abuse me.Though, the appeal of never needing to be scared of being abandoned again would be nice.
>>43783009My apologies, I thought I had been thorough in reading through the prior responses
>>43782984Could be. But there are literal.cheap package deals for this.>>43783044There's still time before the crash!That said, I am not a chaser; I'd be fine with anyone fem.>>43783065I wouldn't want to make them bunk together. Too much estrogen in the room.I agree. That said, I'm just not the sort of person who would find gratification abusing others.>>43783070No worries, anyone can make a mistake.
>>43783125Are there? Like for this kind of arrangement there are specific non-standard surgeries I would want (clavicle and upper ribs) which I imagine wouldn't be included (but people have gotten coverage through CA and WA BCBS plans, interestingly enough).
>>43783125Anon you've kept this going for a while, can you tell me about or show your prefered style of maid uniform?
>>43783150It's called concierge medicine. It won't be a problem. Especially if you go a few cup sizes up for me.>>43783167That's a bit too anime. Let me take a look.
>>43783184Some surgeries are unfortunately highly specialized. Like upper ribs is very very very rare.
>>43783184Also BA seems awkward but NBE stuff I've experimented with. Funnily part of my goals with upper rib work is actually to make my chest seem comparatively larger by reducing lateral distance.
>>43780194Just to ask, OP where are you situated?
>>43783218That's true. >>43783167Here's more my speed.>>43783244A very large, very LGBT friendly city.
>>43783167Possibly a more modern maid take could work as well.
>>43783289country. OP.
>>43783302US. Though I could move to the UK or even Hong Kong. Country isn't very important to me.>>43783167That said...I can't deny something like this is appealing too.
>>43783320This style is lovely tbhon. Long and elegant and graceful.
>>43783320i'd love a dress like that, not too long nor flowy to be impractical. The navy blue helps if stains get bad.
>>43783329It's very beautiful, but a little fetishistic.That said, the maid is supposed to be free use...
>>43783350It's more the skirt length. I think longer, flowier skirts are more beautiful. The very first one you posted is a good example. >>43782739
>>43783373they are prettier, sure. but probably less practical?I suppose (You) could probably change into more practical wear when needed.
>>43783300>>43783320Guests coming over vs Daily wearI don't know if i have any other things to say, so I shall lurk as others ask questions I can't think of
>>43783390Frankly the long ones seem more practical in the sense that they usually allow for less restricted movement and seem to be more durable materials.
>>43783415i'm a klutz... i know full well i would somehow trip on my own loose clothes. that's why i wear tight jeans.
>>43783447I always prefer clothes that cover my legs. Have since I was little. Hate my legs being visible usually.The longer dress also just seems better for cleaning and cooking.
Alright, what I've mostly taken away is, the fetishy maid uniform is the best one. It's fine, I already have a silk gaisha kimono, I'll just buy it.
>>43783499It's about having a long dress.
without hesitation, that would be the dream
How would something this actually be facilitated? interviews, finding serious candidatesPersonality mesh with not just master, but other maids
>>43783668Is there any stipulations you would have, or any embellishment on what parts you'd desire to see from such a situation?>>43783676youve more or less got it.
>>43783758what do you look for in an ideal candidate?
>>43783758is this thread your idea pitch and public feedbackor the ad?
>>43783787I've made similar threads a few times before, but when I put "looking for a free use, live in maid, here are the list of benefits, and here are the requirements I have", mods ban me for advertising.I have sought, vetted, and even hired before using this format.>>43783785breadth of skills and talents, eagerness, and frmininity are the top concerns. endurance is also a concern, fiven the free use aspect. i could go further, if desired.
>>43783844Wait you've done this before? Not making a post but this specific thing?
>>43783844you currently have maidstaff? How many? If not, what happened?Also yeah idk you could give us more details i suppose. Seems like multiple of us are vying for this.
>>43783861Correct. Sadly, most maid candidates ghost before the introductory visit, but some have not.>>43783872What details would you like?I would not like to talk about current or past staff at this juncture, beyond that all who have visited have found the situation quite agreeable, and all who have left did so amicably. If we are lucky, one might pop up in this very thread, but I don't wish to speak for them or of them without permission.Though I consider that unlikely.
>>43783896I mean it is spooky as all beans, so I understand that. Still...
>>43780194What if free use was limited to being massive slut for oral only?
>>43783896do you have an interest in any particular age ranges? racial demographics? other non-work related interests? What do you look for in a maid especially- given this is probably also a polygamy deal.
>>43783844>>43783896Woah... I hope we get lucky, that's crazyYou mentioned breadth of skills and talent, but mentioned training previouslyHow does the skill coming in relate in importance to eagerness, femininity and endurance?
>>43783915If you can get my balls dry, I don't mind the method.>>43783914My apologies.>>43783959I hope so as well.Well, if you are eager to be trained and quickly move up towards being skilled, that's the same as being skilled to me. Does that scan?>>4378395820-40 is preferable, though I'm not against someone older. No one will "age out" or be discarded. I'm at the upper middle end of that range.I do prefer petite women, and I like tanned or golden brown skin. I have an affinity for east asia, france, polynesia, and Thailand especially. But the big thing I can say is: "I'm open to discussing things". I can compromise on a great many details if the maid is eager and willing. Eager. Feminine. Willing to do the work and help. That's what I look for.I am also not opposed to a more monogomous deal, as long as the maid knows her place.
>>43784209This is more compelling than it should be...
>>43784209Yeah that scans, so eagerness to learn and adaptability are valued very highlyHow strong is your preferences for petite and bronze/tan? Say open to discussing, but howw open?Or even without giving any private or identifying information, could you say the traits of some previous or current maids?
>>43784260Oh, or phrased as what are your red lines then?>>43784233ikr?
>>43784209see i wouldn't want to have it monogamous, especially with the dynamic of being a master and servant. At that point, wouldn't I just be a trad wife?This is all quite tantalizing, it's just, vague sex aversion. Begrudgingly i exist to serve. Have you ever had your maids "service" other people? Have they ever done anything with eachother?
Girlies, never agree to this sexual maid bullshit. It will always end in abuse
>>43784318logically, yes, but I am also stupid>>43784293I hate that it is
>>43784318i mean you're right but it's this, holding a career, or homelessness
>>43783958That said, since you asked:- I'd prefer a maid with all of the proper things done to ensure total femininity, to whatever degree that the maid desires. If they choose to retain their factory installations, it would be preferable if it was locked away and denied fully and utterly, beyond hygienic needs.- I prefer bountiful expressions of femininity, especially since such accoutrements enhance night and morning services- They would be willing to wake up each morning and go to bed each night carefully storing my excess seed- They would assist me in mmy daily life and in projects by doing chores, errands, and serving as a sounding board- They would be affection but independent, able to do simple tasks or be trained to do such tasks while retaining decorum- they would be willing and eager to become more independent, more skilled, and more mentally sound, such that their possible reentry into life would be smooth and painless- They must call me sir or masterI think most other things could be compromised.>>43784260Just a preference, as I was asked for oneIt's open for discussion, as I said.I may be amenable to enumerating some values from them.>>43784307Trad wives aren't free use.And maids only serve their master. I'm very demanding in bed.>>43784318I have never, nor will I, abuse a maid. It is antithetical to who I am.
>>43780194yes, id love it, I would love to be able to take care of someone and to be able to wear a pretty dress, id also love to wait at home hoping to be used when my master got back
>>43784233>>43784293>>43784338I am simply laying my cards on the table, ladies. I am not attempting to ensnare or harm anyone; if anything, think me in as desperate a situation as you.I'm not looking for this because I am unwilling to date or am an incel or have any desire to harm the downtrodden. It is because I have a need that I need fulfilled and I am willing to risk my own livelyhood in an attempt to get it.>>43784366What aspect appeals to you the most?
>>43784347you would rather your maidstaff receive SRS? why go through the effort of feminizing someone instead of having a "real" woman to be your maid.Or due to your sex craze, would you be afraid of impregnating them.If you did get your staff pregnant, what would be of the child? aborted? would we treat them like we do you or like another staffer?
>>43780965Perfect also I should mention I don’t mind performing certain acts and extra luxuries such as>folding me like a pretzel>bring your slippers to you>drain your balls>I will always smell of strawberries and vanilla>frame the other maids for crimes>I already work 6-7 days a week>I have niceMaster I am yours to do what you wish with
>>43784373How would a contractual agreement for this situation even work? Do you have the required legal documentation for formal arrangements?
>>43784347>enforced chastity, but also allowed SRS in future>Abundance of cum >Intellectually respected>All feminization cared for, encouraged and ensured>Able to live a normal life should things separateStarting to sound like a targeted psyop at this point, ain't no way every single post makes it sounds more appealing with even less downsides........right?
>>43784527It does sound like a too good to be true thing (except the chastity part the idea of anything touching there sounds horrifying)
>>43784405I leave that very intensely personal choice to them. It would be nice to have variety, but I'd be happy with oral if it was able to work reliably.Do you know where I should look for, for a biological woman who wishes to be a free use maid? It's not like I have t tried; I've gone where I thought I might be successful.I would pay for whatever birth control they desire and whatever outcome they desire. But they would remain a maid. This isn't particularly unusual in history.>>43784462You have nice what?As for draining my balls, this is a free use position. That's required ;)>>43784526There is no legal documentation for a situation like this. However, I could ostensibly fully hire someone as a real full or part time maid. In general, I do things informally or via 1099s.>>43784527Why would I willingly put someone into an awful situation when I'm hiring them to take care of me?>>43784591As long as the parts are maintained out of play, I'm happy. Perhaps spats would be acceptable, just to ensure there is no interaction there.I'm willing to compromise. That was a list of desires, not red lines. While I do like some horrifying things, that doesn't translate into doing them without enthusiastic consent.
>>43780194I would absolutely do it I just turned 18 and I'm really desperate for medical care, and I find cleaning therapeutic, also I think being free use would be fun, but I'm just curious as to whether you'd use me for kinks or just regular stuff also would you be the one who made the medical choices because I think I'd prefer it that way but I don't mind who's in charge
>>43784706iunno i'd figure there would be some. It sounds like you'd rather a real woman to be your servant over a tranny. If one were hired, you'd probably favour her more than the rest of your staff...
>>43784706Forgive me, I don't mean in a plot for abuse sort of way, more of a "this is unreal" sort of wayBut I'm curious for what "horrifying" things are you into?
>>43784757I have kinks, including the maid kink. But I'm relatively vanilla, and mostly would like you to store my excess semen, once when I wake up into your mouth, and once before I go to sleep I would prefer we discuss it together and outline a plan of treatment. But I am partial to large breasts.>>43784769My concern is with femininity, not genetics. The maid I would prefer is the one that can make my balls the emptiest. You'd have to compete in that arena to be favored.>>43784788Well, to some (including that poster), permanent chastity seemed horrifying. I was simply agreeing with them: yes, I am occasionally into things others consider horrifying.But it's all relative. To a normal person, permanent chastity, only being able to climax in unnatural means and not having a normal ejaculation, and being forced to service someone twice a day sexually are all horrifying.But not to you, I wager.
If you're reading this guy's replies and don't see that he is an obvious creep, there's no saving you. Sis, just get a regular bf and be his housewife. You're going to end up raped, killed or worse with this dude
>>43784706A 1099 is probably best. Remember, this is an extremely terrifying position for someone to put themselves into. Like it's terrifying in a way that I think you'd want multiple applicants to be in communication and fly together to meet purely for safety/reassurance reasons.
>>43784839your plan is to have multiple maids, right? wouldn't that split the load (pun intended)?>>43784858Yes, obviously
>>43784858I'm being open and honest with my desires and what I am offering, and providing as much information as I am capable of.I don't deny the premise is ripe for abuse. But I don't think I deserve to be called a creep for simply laying how I feel and what I'm offering on the table.By all means, don't take my hand. And it's completely fair to state the risks. But I think it is intellectually dishonest to call me an "obvious creep" and not even provide meaningful dialog on why.Still, you are entitled to your opinion. I just feel I should push back a little.>>43784861It's also terrifying from this side as well. See above. Still, I don't see any danger in discussing it here.
>>43784891The plan is to have sufficient maids to take care of me and get us both a better life. I anticipate that may require more than one maid, but if an ideal candidate presents itself....I'm not terribly poly amorous, but yes, I do believe it may take more than one maid to keep me satisfied. Indeed, it's only when I've dated twins before that it's worked out sexually.But I feel, if you are betting on a long shot, keep all options open, right?
>>43784917i hate that it feels like you're hacking into my brain...
>>43784839Oh..yeah they all sounded appealing...>>43784858I mean even if that's true, I'd hope nobody here would go 'ok send me address im already packed"we can ask questions about it and learn more just in case
>>43784922My apologies. I'll attempt to speak more neutrally going forward.>>43784945Is there any aspect I haven't emphasized that you would find appealing? I'm interested in hearing what you desire from your side.That said, some people have been that enthusiastic before. I did not take them up on the offer, slowed things down, and the enthusiasm waned.Tis the way with such things.
>>43784968I'm stupid and MEF so I kinda don't want you to stop but also probably a good idea
>>43784968Not really anything that hasn't been touched lol, hence saying this surely had to be a psyopMaybe a lil added sadism wouldn't hurt.. or atleast hurt just enough
>>43784706>You have nice what?Tits and ass, sir. I’m open and available for all types of play. I should however note that my extra curricular interests are reading, sculpting, painting, calligraphy and spiritualism. I’ve been known to sing as well.
>>43785030I am m literally saying "hey I want to wake up with oral sex and use you again before I go to bed, and possibly many times in between". To me, this is extremely honest I'm saying "hey unless you are really into this sort of thing, beware!"So it's very bizarre to me that I am so open, almost offensively so, and the criticism I get is "this is too good to be true".As for sadism, I am into name calling and demeaning and putting the maid in her place, if that is in the same category.>>43785069Is that so? Natural or augmented? I'm very interested in a healthy cup size.I am also into reading, and I wish to get into some forms of art, though a few more blue collar. Might I ask about the spiritualism?
>>43784839Oh ok I'm fine with that also how large because I'd personally want large breasts but not too large to cause issues, and I'm happy to discuss treatment options also for being free use would you want me to use my breasts for pleasure or just use me as a pair of holes?
>>43785092complete non sequitur but what is that flag?
>>43785109What do you consider large enough?I would like to use as many parts of you for pleasure as possible, and to have as many tools for that end as possible. I am partial to titfucks, so I would like them large enough for that, but you should assume any way I can use you for pleasure, I will likely ask for eventually.But, yes, the holes will get the most milage. You have to be okay with that, or have a plan to make me orgasm another way.>>43785158I have no idea, I just picked a random one for identification.
>>43785164it should say tho
i took a nap after i replied to this early this morning and i've been thinking about this i need this bad
>>43785183Says "repressor". Probably a good idea to pick a different one next time.>>43785184Do go on.
>>43785164Honestly I'm not particularly sure idk around a D cup I guess as a minimum but I'm not sure at which point it would hinder my work too muchAnd I'm happy for my master to use me in anyway possible to pleasure himself I'm ok with that and being used for whatever kink you wantAlso what tools do u have I'm rlly curios now?
>>43785196interdastingngl the premise has me intrigued and at the very least I am interested in a good outcome for those involved because it's the kind of thing that seems terribly dangerous but is the dream of a lot of people
>>43785092"I'm confounded how this could be too good to be true"proceeds to say he'd engage in demeaning you...
>>43785213I would aim for more of an E cup, so they have the appropriate volume and look.I currently have bondage gear for immobilization, high powered sex machines, a customized milking machine, a large number of insertables, electro stimulation equipment, and a nobra twincharger.Unfortunately, none of the equipment I own is sufficient for me, which is why I am looking for a maid.>>43785215Really not sure how it's more dangerous than normal dating, honestly. Anyone can be an abuser, but the vast majority are not. But I digress.>>43785222See, it's comments like this that make me think maybe you are too much of a brain dead bimbo to be a prim and proper cock wife maid.
>>43785259Ok ill try and aim for an E-cup as a minimum thenFor the milking machine would you try to induce lactation in me because I've always wanted to try thatAnd I'm into being tied up so Id be happy to do that all for you
>>43785259It's more the whole "flying to a place where you have no connections to be in a CNC employment relationship" that's terrifying. Most relationships aren't tied to employment, at least not from the outset.Part of the thrill is in being innately dangerous and taboo, I have to admit.
>>43785289The machine is not for breasts, dear.
>>43785298That is fair, but I do offer training and an eventual path towards independents and gainful employment to assuage those concerns.And this is free use, not CNC. Well, unless you mean waking me up orally.
>>43785300Oh sorry lmao,Also for breast size my personal minimum is a D cup If your in charge of my healthcare you can make it whatever size you want
>>43784209oral only? I can give crazy sloppy, now you have me thinkingunfortunately I am not tan at all I am vampirically pale. I am also tall with a chubby mom build and I kind of have a drinking problem I'd need sorted out but if you'd be willing to provide support for recovery that could be looked into. I'm probably taller than you unfortunately so you'd have to be ok with that. My gf is a lot smaller with more of a petite build and she is super cute looking.I'd honestly prefer an open/poly ordeal if my gf can come with me. I wouldn't mind if you had other maids or girls on the side. we're both huge sluts and she's drop dead gorgeous with innocent natural beauty that I've never seen in anyone before, she's just too awkward and shy and autistic to know how to flaunt it and use it.
>>43785259See, I was gonna say something to defend myself, then realized this is demeaning :| so maybe it's just right at that pointregardless, I would be a devoted cock wife maid
>>43785317Sounds entirely reasonable to me. We could explore starting at DD or so, and move up until you can reliably please me.If using your breasts for that sounds appealing.>>43785335Ah, sorry, I was just seeing if it would appeal to you ;)
>>43785309I mean free use is kind of inherently CNC, isn't it? Granted I am probably not a good fit for this kind of thing anyways. I am horribly, horribly sexually inexperienced and have weird issues around it that I want to learn how to work through.
>>43785361Ye that's fine I'm happy for you to use my body in anyway that pleases you Also how fast would you want to move up and Would you want to move beyond an E-cup and if so how far?
>>43785327Vampircally white is also appealing, and frankly, in line with my previous and current partners. Especially if you can be a little gothic.Oral is what I like most, but it is incredibly difficult for me to relax and orgasm. It may be daunting, even if you are very skilled.A drinking problem isn't a deal breaker if you are willing to work hard on it and use my resources to work through it. Would my drug use, non alcohol, be triggering? Especially during oral sex, I'd like to be a bit more relaxed than I normally can get.Is she willing to dress up in uniform?>>43785380I see. I hope you find solice someday.>>43785388Those would be questions to ask along with a doctor's advice. I don't know what your frame can support.I only desire sufficiently large to make all of me disappear and pleasure me appropriately, but it all depends on what looks good on your frame.
>>43785196idk im just saying i'd drop everything for this
>>43785425Ok that's fairAlso for the maid dress would it be closer to a historically accurate one or closer to one meant to look sexy?
>>43785425I guess this kind of thing is appealing to me in the sense that it feels like an actual path forward to being okay with sexuality? I was always deeply uncomfortable around sex (tranny issues, grooming, serious religious issues, relationship guilt, etc.) and it's to the point that I'm a penetrative virgin in my mid-20s just because of it all.
>>43785438What aspect appeals to the most and why?>>43785449I aim for a mix of both. Mostly, however, it needs to be elegant and refined.Likely, we will have multiple for different occasions. In fact, I already do!>>43785438I don't think being free use is going to make you less uncomfortable, just more penetrated.
>>43785487Oh okie :)Also I know its a bit random but would you want us to wear undergarments or not so you have easy access whenever you want?
>>43785487Assuming the last one was to me. I'm, in theory, very sexual but I just freeze up. It's bad. The fantasy, the dressing, the obligation is appealing just because its a sort of denial of control? I'm the kind of idiot who says I'm still a man despite everything I've done and how I deny that I'm a man in the moment.
>>43785361It definitely does, i'm just a lil dumbI am both incredibly intelligent and exceptionally dumb, averaging out>>43785425What drugs do you use? just weed?
>>43785511As indicated earlier, chastity is preferable. Only the back needs to be accessible, not the front..But underwear and lingerie to appear more appealing would be perfectly acceptable. Preferred even>>43785539Is the idea to "jump in" and simply get used and hope it all rights itself?I'd prefer you don't demean yourself as well. If you like to be demeaned, simply ask me to do it. ;)>>43785569Weed, which is legal here, and perhaps some psychedelics occasionally. Nitrous is also something I explore, as well as mushrooms.But nothing particularly hard or addicting. I practice risk reduction and therapeutic uses more than recreation. Besides weed.
>>43785601okie that's fine,Also you mentioned earlier that you would want your balls drained when you woke up and before bed but do you have any ideas how many times in-between?Also would you call them over to initiate it or just walk up to them?
>>43785601Kind of? I have issues. Sex, gender, PTSD, etc. all kind of tightly wound together in a way that sometimes the way out just seems to be to end up in a situation where I sink or swim or someone else fixes me. Like I'll get an orchi when someone makes me.
>>43785647As many times as is possible. It changes on a day to day basis. It also depends if you really can wake me up with an orgasm; if that happens reliably, the hope is the whole day can be free!Likely we would coordinate to ensure everything stays hygienic.>>43785653I see. Did you want such surgery?
>>43785601Would a maid ever be in a position to choose to do shrooms with you?
>>43785677Ok I'm happy to be used as many times as you wantAlso because you mentioned rope earlier in general would you want to be woken up and go to sleep with me tied up or in lingerie
>>43785677Before I started HRT I absolutely wanted SRS, but difficulties early into HRT (medical issues + extreme stress) made that feel terrifying. I've had times of being 100% ready for an orchi to being terrified of it. Genuinely I'm just sensitive to hormone fluctuations and get headaches which induce confusion and depression. It's partly why I took so long to make FFS plans even though I wanted it in advance. Hard to make plans for the future when HRT seems to hit me like a truck (doing that rn since I low dosed for a few weeks and now back up to a normal dose is giving me migraines). Getting castrated for a master has been a fantasy as times, though...
>>43785719The maid would always be in a position to do whatever they liked with me, as long as it was done safely and with harm reduction in mind.That said, drugs with serious risk of abuse or harm would need to be serious discussions, with a willingness on both sides to back down.For mushrooms in specifically, assuming no psychological meds would interfere and no psychological issues might be exposed, I would have no problems engaging in such behaviors. Especially if the maid is willing to be oral during.>>43785721Lingerie for sure. As for going to sleep, it may be arranged if you are able to perform your morning duties appropriately.And if you like being tied up or restrained, that could be mixed in in many situations....I could see a leather maid outfit.>>43785722I see. Does permanent denial scratch the same itch, or do you find enjoyment in the idea of permanent physical change to a master?
>>43785767Permanent physical change, but I'm also MEFy in a way that I might still ask you to call me a boy...ignore the fact that I'm a grown adult
>>>43785767I'm happy to do either depending on whatever you find most pleasurable And I think a leather maid outfit would be quite enjoyableAlso are maids allowed to initiate sex or is that purely up to you?
My dream to serve a dominant woman fulltime. Be her service sub. Will never happen but sure as hell would give my life meaning.
>>43785797I see.>>43785807I would encourage the maid to be active in both asking for sex as well as making her master aroused so he wants it as well. Indeed, this is part of the reason for a free use maid: to encourage me to use her and orgasm more.Why do you ask?>>43785834Well, unfortunately, this isn't the thread for you.
>>43785848Just because I wanna serve a woman?
>>43785848I may be kind of pathetic...
>>43785767I've never given head on shrooms, but everyday is a day to try something newYou said you'd done all this before, but how did it move beyond something like this? From a forum of people throwing themselves at the idea, to candidacy?
>>43785848I just have a high libido so was wondering how it would workAlso for the tied up part would you want to use a ball gag or not
>>43785425I am totally fine with drug use and such. Most people I have been with have been stoners, I'm not straight edge or anything.I don't see why she wouldn't be willing to dress up.
>>43785858I'm simply unable to provide that accomoration. My apologies.>>43785860I think you are more demeaning to yourself than I would ever be to a maid, without them asking.>>43785890I gave out an email, they contacted me directly, and we slowly increased familiarity before a trial visit.Do you think it would be difficult?>>43785908I prefer dildo gags, so that your oral sex skills will also be trained.How high is your libido? Can you orgasm from being penetrated?>>43785925If she would be willing to dress appropriately and share a room with you, I would be more than amenable to it. Especially if she can be used as well.Not that I'm into cucking my own maid of course. But I am very much into being serviced by two at once.
>>43783758well, we have in person connections that stop this kind of thing from being realistic. our sister would have to be included, she's important to us and we wouldn't be comfortable leaving her behind.as for embellishments, it's, largely just wishes, given the circumstance of what we'd be getting in return, but, someone who understands all of us and, is willing to grow with us. tbdesu I know we wouldn't really be in the position to ask for much though..
>>43785982I think recruitment from here is a hard task to make it to the end with peoplethough idk how you found others, as i assume you meant it was other spaces
>>43785982It's not necessarily demeaning its more a combination of both low self esteem and some masochistic tendencies...
>>43786010I've made many threads, and connections, through this board.If you have other spaces I should also post on, feel free to recommend them.>>43786011i see.
>>43785982Ok how long would the gag have to be?My libido is fairly high I try to orgasm between 4-6 times per day sometimes up to 8-10 ish As stated earlier I only just turned 18 so don't know for the last bit as I'm only just able to start transitioning
>>43786034Probably long enough to at least tickle your throat, so you can get your gag reflex trained away.How do you normally orgasm?
>>43786031Again, I'm kinda (very) MEF just with some genuine issues. Like you have no idea how much this appeals to my base desires and it's largely my more rational upper level thinking, foresight, and prior loyalties that are telling me otherwise.
>>43786031Oh I had thought earlier when saying mods removed posts it'd be generally unsuccessfulbut you mean to say reformatting to threads such as this one worked
>>43786047I normally have to masturbate
>>43786047How far down my throat should I prepare for though?
>>43786095Well, eventually, around 8 inches total.>>43786079Will you be able to transition towards only orgasming from penetration with such a high libido?>>43786063The original threads worked. I just got banned. So I tried this.
>>43786116Oh dang that's a lot ill have to train for a while thenIf you want to I don't see why I cant
>>43786133My apologies for my biology. It was actually a cause of one maid deciding to not move forward after a visit.I prefer to be the one to make the maid helplessly cum the proper way, and to use a machine if they beg for a normal release. And to not turn it off even when they beg, as punishment.
>>43786161wait why would that be the reason someone wouldn't?that just seems like upside...
>>43786161Don't worry I can trainI think I'd like that actually
>>43786116My ex bf was 8 inches. I couldn't take it all down my throat but I could take a lot and make him cum easily. There's actually diminishing returns because I can do a lot more with the back of my tongue near the frenulum and tip taking half that feels a lot better reportedly than just using my mouth as a hole to fuck. You'd have to try me out but I guarantee I could make you cum quite hard that way. Everyone I've been with has told me I give the best head they've ever had. I'm a bit out of practice but I could easily get back there.Enough baiting us OP, show us the house we're going to clean
>>43786205if it was purely about depth I could take about 6 easily, but my gag reflex is a lot worse now bc of my drinking problem bur I wanna fix that
>>43786205ye I wanna see the house now actually
>>43786177Because theu were unable to keep up with the demands of the job. She said she felt me behind her tonsils, no matter which end I entered.>>43786194Is that so? How much are you willing to train? I am very interested in having you keep my lower half nice and warm during the winter months in a maids nice diligent throat as I work.>>43786205With a comment like that, i think of have a valid argument accusing you of baiting, haha.Let's hold off on that for now. Let me describe it instead:- around 1750 sqft in an upscale 50s era townhouse in a somewhat suburban area in a major city- all wood flooring, upper middle class furnishings- 3 bedrooms, 1.5 bath- medium but open plan downstairs including living room, dining room, and kitchen- downstairs garage with metal working equipment - full porch, half deck, front garden, small back yard with ample gardening opportunities- air conditioning and heating, but not modern central air- all modern appliances- gas cooking as well as induction- easy access to several downtown areas, educational facilities, etc- several night clubs within walking distance- many near by parks and recreational facilitiesAny specific questions I will do my best to answer. I do have pictures, but I will keep them off 4chan for now; I can provide them via email later.
>>43786205what are you doing with the back of your tongue, I need a tutorial
>>43786258Understandable. I think overall location is important, especially for healthcare access and 1099 stuff for insurance because again, if it's WA or CA there are really good inclusive insurance plans for covering excellent surgeons.
>>43786258I'm willing to train to take whatever you want to do to me, and I'm happy to be turned into a cock warmer in winter
>>43786258how many of us are you planning to have? if you got both my gf and I you could fill 1 room with 2 but otherwise what would the living arrangements be?
>>43786116>>43786258I see.., this >>43786280was going to be my next question, you'd said 3 right, but also that includes current ones already, no?
>>43786277It's a good location for all of those reasons..like I said, major LGBT friendly city.>>43786280I'm open to suggestions.But I specifically was aiming for 3 or less, because I have three rooms and don't wish to force people into uncomfortable situations.>>43786278It's very easy to say these things, and I'm not questioning your resolve personally. But are you confident you'll be able to handle it? I am very demanding, and it's difficult for me to orgasm. You may be down there for hours.>>43786301Let's say there are at least three spaced currently available, and that individual would bump it to 4 by sharing a room (and holes).But it's really all about how many is needed to satisfy my desires and needs. If someone was so exceptionally good at oral sex that I had not a drop left to give to other maids, id likely only need two!
>>43786321I'mma be honest, I can't handle 8 inchesbut for all this? it's sure eagerly try and train
>>43786321Have you research providing quality insurance for your maids? Premera BCBS is incredibly good and would be enticing for most trans women because it provides full coverage with the best surgeons in the US, including some of the rare surgeries I mentioned previously. My plan, if I get screwed on FFS coverage by my current employer, is to just find whatever job I can with Premera to get as many surgeries as possible.
>>43786321I think if I'm going to be down there for hours I'll be able to orgasm multiple times so I think I'll be able to endure it Also do you have a basement or attic that's at least somewhat habitable because I'd happily live there even if its not as good as a fully furnished roomAlso in winter how long at a time would you want me to warm your cock for and would you want me to use my mouth or other holes?
>>43786351Ah, in either oriface? Or just orally?Because orally isn't a deal breaker; we can train until you are ready. But I need at least one outlet for lust I can go full force on, which sadly, has been a deal breaker with some particularly fragile partners.>>43786364Medicaid has been available in the past, though that seems to be closing. BCBS of some variety is what I have, and could be extended to a select maid.I believe I also have access to Anthem BCBS, which is likely what I would go with if the maid desired lots of surgical aid. For hormones alone, a less demanding plan would work, long term.But it's something to be discussed and researched to death, of course.>>43786365you can orgasm from pleasuring someone else? i wouldnt put you in an attic dear. worse comes to worse, you can use my office. it is small, but would comfortably fit a bed, desk, and dressor. or you could sleep at the foot of my bed, to best wake mr in the morning.for cock warming during work, just your mouth. after work, while relaxing, i could easily see you slowly sliding yout hips back and forth with me buried deep inside you for as long as your poor hole can take me. I would be amenable to breaks, of course. But during a particularly hard project, it may be the entire work day, with adequate breaks if I don't orgasm.
>>43786407I don't think either, damnboth or either orifice can be trained tho can't they?
>>43786441Well, yes. But i have no desire to cause you injury. I've done so before, when particularly blinded by a need to release.It's something of a curse, honestly.
>>43786407What BCBS covers is heavily dependent on state, unfortunately. The state that my plan belongs to, for instance, is rather nebulous when it comes to covering FFS.
>>43786321what if you had all your maids service you at once?
>>43786466The hope is that would be sufficient. It's certainly something I look forward to.It would be somewhat devastating if it didn't work, though.>>43786461Very true, but remember, I have enormous cash reserves. It's not as much an issue for me.
>>43786407depends what you do and which holes you use ig? Either way I'm happy to do whatever pleasures my master/owner Id be happy to sleep in your office if it meant my libido was better satisfied I'm happy to do whatever pleases you and I can just use your semen to sustain me until I make food if your stressed
>>43786483Comprehensive FFS without insurance can be in excess of like $100k for some, so keep that in mind. Providing insurance will be cheaper but idk how setting it up works. Do you only desire sexual companionship from maids or would you genuinely love them?
>>43786488Should wonder, does OP work from home, or does he go out to work.
>>43786488My question is, will pleasing me satisfy you? If so, we may have a very virtuous cycle on our hands.
>>43786506I work from home, but I do sometimes travel into the city or abroad for work.You can expect to have a full 8 hours each day helping me.>>43786505The figured I've seen are lower, but I concede to your superior knowledge.I would genuinely love them, but not necessarily as you would a romantic partner.
>>43786510I think so
My friend used to be a nude maid for some dude in SF back in the day he'd go to the guy's apartment get naked do some meth and then clean his entire apartment he'd get paid in meth too
>>43786528It's on the very very high end and counting revisions and whatnot. But I do want to preface that once you take a girl in, this is what you could be facing.
>>43786528Do you ever anticipate having a romantic partner? What would happen to the maids if so?
>>43786510Also while I'm keeping your cock warm would you be ok with me using something such as a vibrator?Also earlier you mentioned electrostimulation would that be for us and if so which areas is it for?
>>43786531Can you still ejaculate properly?Sorry if that is a personal question.>>43786552Thank you for the context and information. I'll be sure to research more thoroughly, as the numbers I got were much closer to around 35k, even for the best FFS surgeons.I know because a coworker went through such a process before, and was very open with all the details.>>43786553My view is that it is likely a particularly dutiful maid would catch my eye and become head maid. Literally.>>43786567Absolutely. There's no reason to have a collection of toys you don't use. I happen to have a nobra twin charger for your front, and a variety of lelo toys that rotate as well as vibrate, for the rear.It could be. It works on any area below the chest.
>>437865951) Yes though Id like to have srs as soon as possible2)ok thank you that sounds exciting
>>43786595The prices I usually see for the best surgeons are $80k. Again, much much cheaper with insurance. That's not even getting to those who want multiple surgeries, like a clavicle reduction + scapula shave is another $40k. Would you cuddle with your maids?
>>43786595Would the head maid be the one to sleep in bed with you if she ends up essentially being your "wife"?
>>43786595Also would you be open to breath play as ive never done it but want to try, or no?
>>43786661Im switching to my phone so ill reply to myself from mobile to show its the same person
>>43786729its not working ill try later
>>43786765It’s me again
>>43786627Cuddling is non negotiable and required.>>43786595I'd also like that>>43786631Possibly. Could be a rotation. Why do you ask?>>43786661I'm quite experienced in that, though it may be difficult to do if you have a significant Adams apple.>>43786824Hello!
>>43786881YaaayYou will be a good master then
>>43786881Well just playing favourites with a bunch of maids is something you didnt want to do right? Much like we shouldnt share bedrooms? You wouldnt want us to grow resentful of eachother...
>>43786901That's what I am for. That said, a lot of the cuddling will also include being inside the maid.>>43786934Fair enough. Though I think it's reasonable for the head maid to have a few privileges. Or would you get too jealous?
>>43786956If not the headmaid, I think some praise would be useful. Like if i were have made a good meal, or have gardened well enough. It would encourage me to keep going, i suppose.
>>43786982Absolutely. I give compliments, praise, and head pats very generously.
>>43786956And that's okay. Cuddling is good. Do you work every day?
>>43786956Cuddling while master is 8 inches deep inside of you...
>>43787003Well. I'm employed to work every day. But I'm a remote worker, so it isn't as if anyone is checking.You should expect afternoon trysts commonly, especially if you entice me.
>>43787008Even weekends? That's rough. What would you expect days off like holidays to be like?
>>43787013yeah you said you'd be willing to take time off of work with your maidstaff to build morale. What's there to do in your city - or what would we be doing on those days off? more than just coitus right??
Oh wait, how are maids treated socially?"This is my employee""This is my maid"'friend', partner', 'live in sex-slave', 'nothing at all I don't know them they shoild be inside'?
>>43786881Maybe if I have it removed then also what were you saying I’d quite like that too?
>>43787043The weed smoking girlfriends, obviously
>>43787007Are you sure you can take it? I have enjoyed slowly rolling my hips so the tip repeatedly forces the maids prostate to force them dry. For hours.Normally I stay as deep as possible while doing this, even straining my hips and abs to get just a little deeper, to hit that spot just a little harder, to force the maid to climax helplessly and pathetically while under me as I ruthlessly do it over and over.>>43787013Ah, no. Standard 40 hour work week. I also get 30 days PTO a year.I anticipate holidays will be quite lewd.>>43787026My dear, this is a major and walkable city. There is endless things to do. A duty of the maid may indeed be finding things to do and encouraging her master to participate. So, in a way, it's whatever you can imagine.I like movies however!>>43787043"This is my master""She is my maid"
>>43787066Oh! That's a lot better. Honestly the deal sounds really nice but I'm also getting into a weird headspace.
>>43787066I do wish the city you were in wasn't an american one. I'd need a passport, and then that's a whole ordeal too. Shame :(
>>43787044The breath play ;)>>43787091Any way I can help?
>>43787099My sincere apologies. Technically, my city has a whole system for house keepers who are hired overseas, but I can understand the reluctance.
>>43787103Not right now but it's one of the weird health issues I have. Feels like my arms burn up and I get really tired and breathing is weird. I think it's some kind of inflammation issue. I get weird and clingy with it too but also extremely low energy.
>>43787131I'm sorry to hear that, doll
>>43787066"I am master [name]'s maid" mhm mhm"This is my master [name]" yeah I end up stuttering like a blushing idiot
>>43787150Yes. That is the intended outcome.
>>43787148I'm hoping to get it figured out by the end of the year. Lots of doctors visits and all of that. Your concern is touching though.
>>43787162Best of luck. Tell me if I can help.
i think it's a little embarrasing that i've spent all day on this thread along like 3-4 other people...
>>43787186You are oddly charming I hope you know
>>43787212Thank you. I must be doing something right.>>43787207I'm sorry, I'll try to be less compelling in the future.
>>43787242I hope you and your maid(s) end up very happy and safe
>>43787262That's the plan, to improge som maids lives while using their holes.Though apparent some find me "creepy".
>>43787160Well it works just trying to say it alone now..>>43787207We're trannies, this isn't as embarrassing as that>>43787162Hope you can get some help from them Snoymoder
>>43787285Yeah. I'll be seeing the same doctor my sister saw so hopefully her condition will give him some insight. >>43787271Again it's still spooky, but that doesn't mean I can't hope for the best.
>>43787285I suppose... Though i do think i pass quite well, but I'm really not sure. I am happy with how I look, but if I were to be a maid, I dont think it would be on me to say...>>43787271I hope that you may find a maid you can impregnate, if this is something you wish to pursue.
>>43787271Seems I am tiring. Look at that sentence.My email is masterseekingmaids@proton.me for anyone that wishes to stay in contact.>>43787285Good <3>>43787317I would be interested in seeing what you have to offer and validating your worth as a woman.After all, I can confirm I'd be happy to impregnate you, knowing what I know so far, or trying a whole lot at least ;)
>>43787348Rest well :)
>>43787383Oh I'm not sleeping yet, not to worry. Though I may take a break for night service with the current maid
>>43787393Why do you seek more maids, ultimately?
>>43787348Ok I might message you in a while then :)
>>43787400I am not adequately drained and I need help with errands and keeping on track.>>43787410Feel free!
>>43787393Oh! I was under the impression you had no maids currently? What is she like? What does she do?
>>43787430It's come up before in the thread, but I've been somewhat circumscribe. She does all the duties I've outlined already, but I have greater needs than she can manage.
Do you see this happening in future as well?Like if one couldn't commit now, for school, family, health, anything like that, to also be doing this later in life, assuming a spot opened
>>43787492I don't see myself not needing a maid, so very likely.
>>43787515How many maids have you had?
>>43787522I would say at least 3 in an official capacity, but not at the same time. Several more if we include more unofficial relationships and such.If we include those who perform part of the duties but not all of them and not live in, it may be as many as 10. However, it's important to me that they wear the uniform, so I do not count those.
>>43787550I see. How long have you been doing this?
>>43787561Let's say not more than a decade. But I've always had submissive partners.
>>43787577What do you enjoy most about it? Do you enjoy the kind of MEFy aspects to it?
>>43787613Mostly, I enjoy not being alone, but also not being tied into a strictly romantic relationship. The dynamic works for me and helps me achieve my goals.But yes, I do obviously enjoy the power dynamics, the sexual aspect, and the submission aspect on the maids side.
>>43787635Is sex a requirement from all maids?
>>43787635Do you enjoy teasing your maids about being failed males or anything?
>>43787652It is in general a part of the package deal, yes. As is free use.>>43787654I don't generally go that far, but if a maid was into it, yes. Is that what you are into? I've found there are some who enjoy such things profoundly and find it validating, and those who are immediately switched out by it.
>>43787668Sometimes? I have certain struggles. Sometimes I feel like I am just a failed male. It's confusing and I can't seem to find a steady answer.
>>43787668see it's just. i'm traumatized from sex abuse. I was hoping i could be useful to you in other ways.
Are autistic trannies allowed?
>>43787694As far as I am aware, it's perfectly normal to feel such things, and part of the process. It isn't wrong to feel that way, nor is it wrong to enjoy it, if it happens to tickle your fancy. You are not lesser for what you enjoy.Though I will treat you as such, if you enjoy it.>>43787707I am sorry to hear that, doll. It pains me that you have experienced that.Unfortunately, "free use" is half of the equation; it would be quite difficult to find a compelling reason to on board you if even oral sex is off of the table, unless your organizational and time management skills are off the charts.I apologize, as I do not mean to reduce you down to a single factor or objectify you. But if my needs are not adequately met, then we would need to find a way to ensure that is the case. It isn't a matter of you being inadequate or lesser, but of my own personal failings and flaws. I hope you don't take it to heart.
>>43787791You seem really nice.
>>43787787With caveats, yes. I have worked with the autistic before, and I know some things I ask for can be beyond their capabilities. Assuming they can perform their duties adequately, I have no problem with any disability. This shop doesn't discriminate...much.>>43787796Why would I be mean to someone who wishes to serve?That said, please do not confuse what I am doing for nice. I'm merely engaging with you in the way any reasonable and rational person should. The fact most people are prejudice dickheads does not mean I deserve a compliment for merely doing what is right. I do thank you for it, however; I truly appreciate you saying so.
>>43787841You are listening when I'm just dumping shit on you and offer reassurances. I would say that you are nice.
>>43787881My dear, why do you think humans cry? It is to signal to others that they are in need of help, and to please help them. It is normal, it is natural, i will go farther, it is the RIGHT of all free humans to complain when they are hurt. And it is just as natural to aid those when they are. It is not nice, kind, or polite....it is what ought to be done, so it does not need thanking.Though, as I said, it IS appreciated. ;)
>>43787841What is discriminated..?
>>43787897There is a duty for humans to help themselves, too. One day I want to get better because I was more able to help others before.
>>43787919No puppy girls.>>43787929I'm not so sure about that; a duty comes as the dual to a privilege or right, and i don't think an individual has any obligation in that way, given the dominating factor of outside culture.But, in practical terms, it's certainly better to try than to depend on society deciding to fix its foibles. I hope you recover as well.
>>43787944lmao fairAnyone email?
>>43787990Yes.
Ah, I think we are at bump limit.Perhaps if this thread dies before I go to bed, I'll open a more direct appeal (and get banned for it).
Good night, all. I will see you at this email, or the next thread. Stay safe.- Master