It's time for a divorce!
>>43781420BROKE: LGB / TWOKE: LGBTBESPOKE: LBT / G
>>43781420Most "drop the T" groups are wolves in sheep clothingThe majority of them are either complete homophobes or the fag equivalent to an uncle tomI absolutely believe the T should be removed but most of the groups who advocate for it go after the rights of gay and bi people as well
>>43781420Nobody cares chudboy
>>43781420All are gender nonconforming.
>liars: gays, bis, treaks. enjoy your stay
>>43781474trannies are gender conforming, all they do is act out stereotypes to conform to binary gender roles all day long
>>43781491Well then you better have never worn makeup or a skirt before in your entire life, otherwise you yourself are also conforming to the binary gender roles
>>43781455>Homophobe (You)
>>43781507I haven't worn a skirt in like 2 years. Gender is a lot more than clothes...
>>43781491Acting out stereotypes is just being normal
honestly im sick of gay people pretending like trans people are only capable of existing through their charity. half the negative press on trans people come from gay people and so do the horrible child abuse stories. if we had a divorce, the trans people would be taking the best parts of lgbt with us.
>>43781631trannies are obsessive about it
>>43781615Didn't you claim to love to be effeminate with a beard, gincel?
>>43781420Homosexual transsexuals are gay. It's only the transvestite transsexuals who are straight and don't belong
>>43781491Exactly. Transgenders conform compulsively to the man-made stereotypes associated with the sex they never will be, no matter how much they try and want to.
>>43781491This.>>43781507It's different for women, who are expected to do that by society. You have a choice.
>>43781676Homosexual transsexuals are not part of this. We are much closer to gay men than straight men
>>43781669They are gay if they transition
>>43781615So you still wear makeup on the daily though? You still conform to binary gender roles on a daily basis.
>>43781491tranny movement is a conservative ideology
>>43781714Yes they are we're always gay men. The differences we present socially as women and are socially considered to be female. It's more of a life adjustment then a sexual interest, as it is in transvestite transgender
>>43781724bb cream and eyeliner, sue memost women spend 10x as long getting ready as I do >>43781732how?
>>43781741I mean the straight man becomes a transbian, they enter gay relationships this way
>>43781745they love and push gender stereotypes as much as conservatives do
>>43781791Which gender stereotypes have you noticed trans people participating in?
>Waah waah, nooooooooo my wholesomerino gender stereotypes and arbitrary gender roles!!!!!!!!!!! Sob sobSTFU dumb bitch!Claiming that sex AND gender is meaningless would actually make trannies way more based than they are. And then retards like you come and seethe that the problem is that they don't act out stereotypes for their birth sex.
>>43781420aintnoway dude made 2 threads
>>43781811they think they're women because they participate in stereotypes created by conservatives.'I'm a woman because I'm wearing a dress, I'm a woman because I have long hair, I'm a woman because I used to play with dolls."None of these things makes someone a woman.
>>43781891Wrong cuz they all do
>>43781669>Homosexual transsexuals are gay. They don't belong BECAUSE THEY'RE TRANNIES (what the lgbT/TTTT stands for). Homosexual trannies just belong because of their homosexuality (that they disguise, deny, and reject "because they're 'women' "). But trannies are homophobic denialists of reality and don't want to belong because of the fact they're homosexual males, so they hijacked the homo movement & spaces and made them all about transgenderism. >It's only the transvestite transsexuals who are straight and don't belong Do you mean autogynephiles? Yes, they're mostly heterosexual or bisexual, but all trannies are transvestites, the homosexuals ones too.
>>43781927Nah :)
>>43781891can you give any other examples of stereotypes trans people participate in?
>>43781601Yes.problem?
>>43781770I don't really consider that to be gay. It's only gay when they are really the same sex relationship. Like two feminine men who think they're trans women having a relationship is gay male, not female.
>>43781712>Homosexual transsexuals are not part of this. Yes, you are. All transgenders are transvestites (you crossdress, don't you? that's the very thing what all trannies do) who try to embody the man-made stereotypes associated and forced upon the other sex since they're born (because they're female, what you are not).
>>43781931Look, I'm transgender by definition because I have taken HRT for days, I have breasts and I pass as a woman. I'm not a woman, I'm a gay male who enjoys all the lady things in life. I like to go shopping, I like to dress them pretty clothes and I love men sexually. I'm a very feminine gay man, or you could say I'm trans woman they both mean the same
>>43781946Yes.
>>43782009>you crossdress, don't you? No I don't do this. I've never had any interest in it I don't get off I'm looking like a woman I just find it a convenient way to get around in this world without having to worry about getting beat up by obnoxious straight men all the time. You can live as a woman and wear nothing but jeans & tops
>>43782019You're a transvestite with fake tits and fake hormone injections to make you less manly/more feminine, big deal
>>43782024so?
>>43782054Hahaha, you're so jealous of me it's so obvious! Tou should try to hide it. Makes you look pathetic
>>43781455bunnies are so cute also based as fuck
>>43782079People say facts that I don't like and it hits me personally. They must be jealous, obviously.
>>43782109Why are you so jealous? I'd really like to know what feeling you have makes you so jealous of me? Maybe my life wasn't so great
>>43782139It's a 4tran mouse
>>43781455>mwahnon wearing the hon flagstolen valor baka
>>43781420Nah you can't say that when L and G are against B almost all the time
>>43782139Can you try to be a little less self-absorbed + delusional and talk about facts and reality for a change, please?
>>43782179B is team heteronormativity, just like T is
>>43781601you aren't oppressed babygirl. noone cares abt u
>>43781420this is like the third year in a row now why do chuds unironically think anyone is falling for their literal false flag bit. its in the fucking name
>>43782103mwah>>43782165you can pry this flag from my cold dead hands!>>43782222checked and at this point I don't think they dothe astroturfed transphobic movements are so minuscule and isolated that they barely breach containment
>>43782208Which letter of LGBTQ is in fact the most oppressed?
>>43781943Every single stereotype that is placed on women, and whichever stereotype they like the most. It’s like shopping for them. They take what they want, what makes their dicks hard and fulfills their fetish. It’s not something they actually have to live by. Except, of course, for stereotypes that require female biology. they are exempt from that labour.
>>43782266Nowadays, it's probably MtF trannies.
>>43782208First of all, unlike you I don't have an oppression fetish and don't want to be oppressed, you creepy tranny
>>43782195Thank you for telling the truth that for some reason everyone else is ignoring, the real wolf in sheep's clothing that was left unchecked long ago
>>43782322weird how so many countries allow legal gender transitions then
>>43782290i like playing videogames and reading comics and drawing some times and laying in bed with my plushies
>>43782347OK? And is it also 'weird' how many countries allow legal gay marriage?Sure, there's probably some countries out there which are more homophobic than transphobic... But most first-world countries are more transphobic than homophobic now.
>>43781642Touch grass.
>>43782385more countries allow gender transition than gay marriage
>>43781457This. Literally.
>>43782392>americansubhuman take detected>>43782396source? proof?
>>43782191Why should I try to please you?
>>43782403Do you always miss the points on purpose or are you really such a stupid dumb fucker, tranny?
>>43782354ok? I wasn't talking to you. No matter how you dress or what your hobbies are, all people will always be their biological sex.
>>43782438r u anon 1 or 2if 1 im not reading yankslop ragebait articlesif 2,>source? proof?
>>43782438We are all frannies here. All equally so
>>43782392Shots fired at the bis for no fucking reason, yet again
>>43782458You wish, tranner. You wish.
>>43782483This: >>43782195
>>43782442So cute, lil' poonette is angwy and looking for a fight, aww
>>43781457>I absolutely believe the T should be removed out of curiosity, why?
>>43782487You are probably more further along with the tranny than I am. You're just fucking around here
>>43782496Heteronormatively kissing my gay boyfriend, like a straggot
>>43782498>"looking for a fight" after I just told him I wasnt talking to him
>>43782576Ok, fake bi gay in denial
>>43782646I'm not the one you replied to the first time, I just find it impressive and funny how you behave like you've got roid rage even (presumably) without being on testo (since you rep).
>>43782680I'm not sure what level of denial it is to be in a relationship with a guy
>>43781420No one in any group paid attention transsexuals when it was assumed all transsexuals were the extreme most effeminate of homosexual men. It wasn't until the first heterosexual males decided to transition and invade female spaces like that women's Festival in Michigan this began all the problems with transsexuals becoming a negative minority and well-known publicly. Before this time, we were just mentally ill gay men who liked to live as women
>>43782716make trannies hsts again
>>43782510The entire transgender question is built on warping and distorting the fundamental basics of human biology and the transgender community has only been a burden for LGB peopleAn AMAB can alter their body to resemble a woman but biologically they will forever remain a manIt's all about denying the truths of the human body just to make people with a mental disorder slightly less suicidal
>>43782848if they wanna off emselves let em
>>43782848Do you realize your argument is against agp's only? It has actually no effect on an hsts.I don't believe you understand the difference
>>43781420technically I'm attracted to same sex but I'm not gay.
>>43783035huh
>>43783035Well I'm attracted to the same sex and I am gay. The only difference is in my case ,I see gay men are forced to look masculine, in exchange for the other guy looking masculine for them. I'm not willing to do it so that's what makes me transgender
>>43781420>>43782442>>43782848Trans women are biologically female.Objectively, facts suggest your view is simplistic.Sex is a dimmer, not a switch.In the womb, the same tissues are sculpted by hormones into male or female forms ("homologous structures"). Hormone therapy flips those same switches: trans women on estrogen grow breasts like any woman's; trans men on testosterone even develop some prostate tissue.Chromosomes don't define sex: roughly two-thirds of cis women carry Y-chromosome DNA in their brains and organs from past pregnancies, yet nobody calls them male. Gamete-based definitions crumble with IVG, which can turn skin cells into sperm or eggs.Sex is a spectrum, and hormone therapy moves a person along it. Transition isn't a rejection of biology: it's a medically guided navigation of the grey area where male and female traits overlap.Citations.Hormone therapy changes gene expression toward the affirmed sex:https://www.news-medical.net/news/20220228/Study-shows-the-impact-of-gender-affirming-hormone-therapy-on-epigenetic-signature-of-genes.aspxMale/female tissue production:https://archive.is/UUwHthttps://archive.is/tYB8fAnyone's skin cells can be turned into either sperm or eggs (IVG):https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2023/05/27/1177191913/sperm-or-egg-in-lab-breakthrough-in-reproduction-designer-babies-ivgBasic anatomy: male/female sex organs "homologous structures" already alike in the womb, and change with hormones. Likewise, postnatal hormones change how they are.https://uen.pressbooks.pub/anatomyphysiology2/chapter/homologous-structures-in-the-male-female/https://www.meddean.luc.edu/lumen/meded/grossanatomy/pelvis/homology.htmlhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_related_male_and_female_reproductive_organsMost cisgender women carry Y chromosomes in their bodies:https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32065627/https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16084184/https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3458919/
>>43781457Some of those groups are literally rebranded anti-gay groups that simply changed their name.
>>43783078Nice slop image, piggy
>>43781491>>43781732Trans people are MORE gender nonconforming than gay people are! Otherwise why the FUCK would billions of dollars be spent by the serial rapist party to run propaganda against us?? Do you see them doing this for gay people? Maybe you aren't threatening to them and we are.
>>43783078wtf I perceive trans women as women now
>>43781455>>43781479>>43781652Pic rel is the way.
>>43782848OK, what the fuck do you even mean by 'biologically remaining a man'?You say 'biologically', so it's not about cultural aspects, which account for like 99% of what people actually think about when they think about gender.It's also apparently not about sexual characteristics, because you say that the trannies 'altering their body' (i.e. changing these characteristics) is also LE BAD.So what is it about to you? Chromosomes? I guess you refer to everyone by gender neutral pronouns until you receive their genetic test results then or walk around with a portable DNA sequencer?
>>43781891Who are you quoting and why are you replying to yourself?
>>43783143AI-tardo Slopvinci
FOWT>>43782098
>>43782392reddit screenshot = true?
>>43783143fuck the gender police
it's crazy how easily some trannies perpetuate homophobia. like nigga YOU ARE A GAY MAN
>>43783416not in their minds
>>43781457"I realise transphobia is a psyop the end goal of which is to attack the rights of people like me, but I'm falling for it anyway"keksee you inside the chambers, retard
>>43782571Wrong. You couldn't be more wrong.
>>43782688"I'm not gay, I'm bee" level of denial
>>43783078Why would I care about this stuff? Only agp's care about it.
>>43783459Same thing for the "bi's" and other closeted homos. They're all just cowards. Some try to pretend to be straight men, others try to pretend to be straight women. All of them are closet cases.
>>43783507Nope, the only reality we acknowledges on this board, is board, you are a tranny
>>43783078>GametogenesisUnironically, what happens if you get a Y egg and it pairs with a Y sperm cell and you get a YY offspring?What would they look like?
>>43783143Exactly what we were saying: you are a guy that sometimes wear a dress. Nothing you'll ever do can make you a woman.
>>43783588>Y eggSmh, people here are seriously demented...You have absolutely no clue what you're talking about.
>>43783618I don't, which is why I was asking...
>>43783588x & y have nothing to do with sex or gender
>>43783618You could have an a y egg, as much as you could have an x egg.
>>43783078You are biologically male. A chemically castrated-body modified male, but a male nonetheless.
>>43783631>>43783642Sure, hons, sure.
>>43783588This is the Y chromosome and the X chromosome. No fetus would grow and survive without at least one X on their cells.
>>43783643They are decidedly less male. Most of them would be a shame to include them in their identity. You're not ashamed because you're a faggot
>>43783692me on the right
>>43783692This is so silly! Nobody has these little bugs crawling under the skin
>>43783692Huh, interesting. What would happen if there was a Y egg and an X sperm then? Genuinely just curious, do you get like a reversed chromosome that's YX instead of XY?
>>43783726>their identityBullshit. You were born male. You are as male as any other male. This is not about "identity", being male is a biological reality. You either are or you are not. And you are. End of story.
>>43783737These aren't bugs, they're part of your genetic material inside the core of all the cells of your body.
>>43783416Transphobia is rebranded homophobia.
>>43783588gigachad
>>43783756Women don't have eggs with Y chromosomes. You don't get why they're XX and men are XY?
>>43783819You can't see them? Did the hottest anybody read them they don't exist to the people who say they exist because they can't see them. I don't believe they really exist and you can't prove it
>>43783643Why are you such a proudly ignorant bigot? I thoroughly refuted your bizarre and simplistic claims about biology, and you simply truck on.
>>43781420i experience same sex attraction and i am transgender. i am on estrogen and am attracted to other trannies on e. i physically have breasts and i like to put my face in other trannys' boobies
>>43783784Nope, it's just not true. People think I'm a female when I walk down the street. It's what determines whether you're a female or male is what other people see you as. It has nothing to do with bugs under your skin!
>>43783871>I see into other people's minds
>>43783838Because you're making up nonsense. Nobody sees little bugs under the skin says, oh, those are male bugs"
>>43783850You're not a woman, Jimmy. You're pathetic.
>>43783884Yes exactly you can't see into somebody else's mind and see what kind of bugs they think they have under their skin. Most normal people never think about bugs under their skin
>>43783829yes because trans is rebranded homo
>>43783891>>43783911I'm not talking to you. You're completely crazy, deeply stupid, and absolutely in denial, mister bugs.
>>43783911t. crawling with male shaped insects
>>43781420
>>43783756
>>43784000You're only talking to me so you can misgender me and make believe, pI'm male. I'm not like a male, I'm like a female! I look like a female, I talk like a female and everyone who sees me thinks I'm a female. Except on here because I'm saying that I'm transgender. You're making fun of me for not being born femme, but everyone who sees me, thinks I'm a female
>>43784020The bugs under the skin thing is a total lie. My psychiatrist have been care of it because someone told me about bugs making you a man and I try to pick them out and end up in the hospital for having my skin all picked apart .Psychiatrist told me there were no bugs under the skin!!
>>43781457A bunch are orgs run by "political lesbians," aka straight women larping as lesbians. The famous "lesbian" TERFs like Julie Bindel? Almost all "political lesbians." They hate trannies because they're just homophobes who think being a faggot is a choice.
>>43783838No I mean via gametogenesis. If you took a man's DNA and split up that XY chromosome via meiosis and the Y chromosome ended up in the egg, and you impregnated that egg with an X chromosome from whatever X sperm cell, it should be a viable zygote, right?I didn't know if it mattered if the Y chromosome was in the egg or not and if that would effect the way the chromosomes merge
>>43784091political lesbians don't existyou are just homophobic and looking to invalidate gays as fake
Can we just drop the L? They cause ALL the problems.
>>43784069If you're right and all you're saying is true why are you so upset and insecure about not being considered female here? Why are you so unsure about being female that you have to struggle and whimper and repeat over and over and over "I'm female, I'm not male, I'm female, I'm not male, I'm female... You want to make me believe I'm male, but I'm not, I'm female, I'm like a female, I look like a female, I talk like a female. Everyone thinks I'm female, I'm female!" lol
>>43781491INCONVENIENT TRUTH NUKE MAX LEVEL
>>43784123Trans lesbians too?
>>43784192They're Ts first Ls second.
>>43784162Because I look like a female even though I'm not a female. I'm a gay boy who passes as a female and has never reached manhood because I've taken female hormones since my adolescence I m born male yes but I could never be a man because I don't look anything like a man. I don't have the big broad shoulders I don't have to take feet or the big hands I'm just a little feminine person who would rather be a gay boy than a boring woman because I like my sexuality. I like getting horny and women don't get horny
>>43784231>I look like a female
>>43784241You're right. I look like a female to everyone who passes by and doesn't know me personally. I don't do this because I get off on it. I do it because it's safer to me too look like a female because males don't beat up females the way they bully males.I don't want to get beat up
>>43784266I'm sure you're larping, you can't be serious.
>>43784353Why do you always have to use that funny word? I know it means something like a lie but it's so dumb. Why can't you just say lying? And no I don't lie
>>43781420>LGB drop the T>still surrounded by transbians and gaydens
>>43784375You do lie. You're lying to yourself right now.
>>43784447 how am I lying to myself?
>>43781420how does it feel being the L of the group? no one likes you except for straight men and only because they wanna fix you
Lots of cope ITT!
>>43784517they'll never fix me
>>43782054>fake tits>fake hormone injectionsMy boobs are natural and my estrogen is bioidentical, thank you very much. Then again, no doubt these are the same people who would call lab grown meat fake meat, and the muscles of cis bodybuilders who take T fake muscles.
>>43784575What if you stopped taking estrogen?
>>43784754If you don't have balls nothing happens
>you're homophobicgive me a reason not to be
>>43785096Alan Turing
>>43781420You are right. It's time we ended this alliance of conveniences and go our separate ways. Now we can do this the easy way or the hard way.
>>43785178what's the hard way?
>>43785096We have regular troon shota and loli threads. Nice projection .
>>43785178>>43785672Being a total jerk about it
>>43781420I wont abandon my tranny friendseven if we can have differing views about gender sometimeseven if the optics of supporting them can be inconvenient sometimeswe have to stick together, especially now when conservatives are in power and they're more vulnerable than ever
>>43781420Only non-binary trannies claim sex is meaningless. This is a lie.
>>43785688they never acknowledge this
>>43785955The ones that are born male and say they're female and the ones that are born female and say they're male are also claiming that sex is meaningless even by doing so.
>>43785955No, we're actually the only ones right.The importance that the society attaches to sex of birth via gender literally makes people go schizo (see: incels OR mentally-ill trannies who are common on this board posting schizothreads OR mentally-ill closetfags who go insane from repressing homosexuality, etc. - many such cases).It's bullshit and I won't stand for it, I fucking hate it.
>>43786025You hate society's emphasis on birth sex?
>>43781420my only opinion about this is that they would slaughter trannies first and then move onto the rest of us
>>43786051Yes, absolutely. Think of how many dumb arbitrary social norms are enforced just for the sake of maintaining this clear division between genders. Different clothing, different upbringing, different hobbies, different socialisation, often different careers, finally different mental attributes (fembrain, malebrain) which result from the aforementioned social gender norms.None of them somehow naturally follow from birth sex, from natural sex dimorphism, but because of how deeply ingrained and strictly enforced they are by the society, they are seen as as certain and unchangeable as laws of nature. This is how the ruling ideology functions in general. I hate it, it's got many horrible consequences on people, how they think, how they act.
>>43786171overthrow the matriarchy nowgender roles exist to benefit women at the expense of men
>>43786181That's also not true, but whatever.
>>43785990saying that something can be changed isn't calling it meaningless.I can change a lightbulb that has stopped working; that doesn't imply the idea of a lightbulb that works or doesn't work is meaningless.
>>43786192neither gender nor sex can ever be changed
>>43785096we will throw you to the chuds if you don't stop
>>43781455BAROQUE: BT / LG
>>43781420>>43781491>All trans people hold X belief or do Y behaviour that I arbitrarily assign to them>Therefore they should be eliminated from public life>>43781703>It’s OK for cis women to do X, but it’s not OK for trans women to do the same>Cis women are incapable of agency; they’re innocent victims of le patriarchy and are never responsible for their own behaviour no matter whatIt’s all so tiresome.
>>43786186yeah it is
>>43788501It's literally truth? Or are you saying women absolutely weren't pressured into gender roles since forever.
>>43790023gender roles are for men
>>43790036>Women are incapable of doing what they want to do
>>43790086women have no restrictions or rules, and are ALLOWED to do whatever they want, men are not
>>43785096because youre just a homosexual man in a dress
>>43790178it's ok for gay men to crossdress, but everyone is tired of being told we have to pretend such people are ACTUALLY women for doing so
this threads been up for a day are you all that succeptible to ragebait??
>>43790208Your exhaustion does not override the basic human needs of others, faggot.
>>43790414>forcing others to pretend men are women is a need>I cannot survive if people notice my male traits and say that out loud
>>43790432>Coming from some one who thinks that you need to believe in his imaginary friend in the sky or else you're evil.I dont care if you misgender a nonpassing tranny, but leave me alone when I use the bathroom or Im calling the police.
>>43781642Crossdressing is gay.
>>43789954It's not and it's actually a philistine retard simpleton opinion, completely ahistorical and which does not make sense if you think about it for more than 5 minutes.The ruling ideology (that includes gender) is the ideas of the ruling class - also mixed with some relics of the ideas of ruling classes of the past.
>>43790094 men should start doing what they want so they don't have to turn themselves into ugly women
>>43790218Why does it bother you so much if people want to discuss this topic? Do you feel ignoring your needs?
>>43791781trannies hate challenges to their narrative that dysphoria is sacrosanct and appears out of nowhere
>>43790521I don't believe in God or transgenderism. Trannies and religious fundamentalists are both on the same side of the political spectrum - enforcement of hierarchies based on physical strength and womb-holding.
>>43791672Are women bourgeois?
>>43781420Political allies dont need to share the same beliefs to know they have similar political interests and are stronger as a bloc
>>43793445I don't believe in homophiliacs
>>43795334Were you raised with the bible?
>>43791672Cool, but your mom still gave birth to you so there’s that.
>>43781420Agreed, we shouldn't be involved with LGB, they can handle themselves. T should go their own way and stop trying to associate themselves with LGB individuals.
>>43795373I hate my mom.
>>43795393What if the T is hsts, a homosexual transsexual?
>>43795665if you include spies and traitors in your army you won't win the war
>>43795665you get to be your own special group
sex is not meaningless
>>43795678No I'm just part of the gay group
>>43796653you abdicated the throne by marrying a non-royal
>>43796653you can't be gay if you're a woman.
>>43796914true!
>>43796914lesbians
>>43797466Can HSTS be lesbians?
i infact have gone through the difficult task of transitioning my sex because my sex is very meaningful to me
>>43797475No way! We are homosexual before we transition. We are strictly attracted to males
>>43797475Im talking about real women
>>43796709>>43796914I'm a gay man who lives as a woman. Big difference.
>>43781455Fuck u, u stupid gay
>>43793071Why would you be so tight about it? How does it affect your life? Are you in love with somebody who's transgender?
>>43786171Yes I agree with everything you're saying. For me to add to it, I would just say personally, I don't think I would transition if society was not so rigid about gender roles. I could have been more feminine as a kid and normal. Im sure my life would have been better
