Thoughts on muslims being mad at other muslims for supporting pride month? Why do they hate us so much anons? If god created us like this shouldn't they be mad at god why vent their anger out on us
>>43784919i think we need all muslims to die
>>43784919i need all british people to die
>>43784933even zohran mamdani who supports us? that seems mean
>>43784954he's doing a taqiya it's a trap
>>43784954zohran is a muslim in name only
>>43784954i don't trust muslims period
>>43784962>>43784979>>43784982ilhan omar? i think we need to be more open with religious people and have them understand their own beliefs better
>>43784992I think people who clearly don't actually believe in their religions should stop pretending
>>43784992she is even more of a snake. I'm almost willing to believe zohran exists in an inbetween where he doesnt have muslim beliefs but calls himself one cuz ancestry (like non practicing jews or christians) but ilhan omar is straight from that cesspit and participates in the evils of islam publicly.
>>43785024Do you have any ill will towards conservatives and the voting population that passes most anti trans legislation or only muslim politicians that havent because they secretly might be 1:1 with politicians we already have
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>>43785006it can be cultural thing like how u celebrate christmas or new year>>43785024she's married to a jewish guy and left her somali husband and has a dog
>>43785061a religion isn't just a cultural thing. I celebrate christmas but I don't claim to be christian. I went to a bar mitzvah once but I'm not jewish
>Be Zohran>Zionists hate you>Epsteinite Magatards hate you>landlords hate you>corporate democrats hate you>wahabist and Saudi paid radical Islamists hate youSeems like he is doing everything right.
>>43785080>a religion isn't just a cultural thing. I celebrate christmas but I don't claim to be christian. I went to a bar mitzvah once but I'm not jewishyou realize people tend to stick to religions they were raised in since it forms their identity.
>>43785056yes i don't like the people making my life illegal jesus christ your whataboutism is so fucking retarded>>43785061she is wearing that freaking thing on her head that muslims force women to wear to signify that they're someone else's property. she isn't a fucking progressive in any way.
>>43785163even if you were born into a religion, you shouldn't pretend to actually believe in it if you don't
>>43785189>even if you were born into a religion, you shouldn't pretend to actually believe in it if you don'tostracize yourself from community you've been living in for your whole life>>43785171>she is wearing that freaking thing on her head that muslims force women to wear to signify that they're someone else's property. she isn't a fucking progressive in any way.so u think she's property with no agency? i dont get ur argument
>>43785217>ostracize yourself from community you've been living in for your whole lifeif your community will ostracize you for not believing in the same god then you should find a new communitythat's the point, pretending you're religious because you're scared of being mistreated by your community only perpetuates the problem, and contributes to the social pressure to not admit you don't believe
>>43785189Crazy how people like you are trying to lecture Muslims that the only true form of Islam is 21st century Saudi Wahabism while there were Muslim empires such as the Ottoman that existed for centuries and were among the most tolerant states for homosexual expression for centuries. It just exposes you as an extremely illiterate person.
>>43785217>so u think she's property with no agency?thats what the headscarf symbolizes. i don't believe she should be property with no agency, her religion and culture does. if she doesn't want to be that, she should abandon those things. not abandoning those things tells me she believes in them, or might as well. i do not want somebody who believes anybody can be anybody else's property to be a representative of my nation.
>>43785249this isn't even about homosexuality or whateverit's just that there's a lot of modern muslims (and christians) who clearly don't actually believe in god or believe that their prophets were divine, but by staying in the religion they act as apologists for the bigots who use the religion as an excuse for being hatefulit's like being in the KKK, and every time someone criticizes you for it, you go on about how you don't actually believe in all the hateful stuff and it's just your community and you're actually a very nice person. And maybe that's true, but you're still willingly sharing a community that is primarily hateful people because you're too scared to admit you don't believe in it.
>>43784919>For me, and the majority of British Muslims, Islam comes firstThat's all you need to know.
>>43784919It's almost like desert superstition is regressive and stupid.
>>43785006No one actually believes in their religion. They’re all pretty clearly ridiculous, but they’re not going to stop existing as a cultural thing.
>>43784919Honestly, I understand these religious people way more than the "liberal" ones. Like, you believe you have the actual Word of God. No bullshit. Whether you're Christian or Muslim you believe you have literal instruction from the supreme creator on how to live your life. And it matters, because adherence to that instruction is what places you either in internal paradise or eternal suffering.If you, deep down, truly believe that from the bottom of your heart, why would you ever only believe *SOME* of the things god tells you? Why would you not adhere as strictly to god's instruction as possible? Eternal peace and joy is at stake! Why risk half assing it for worldly liberal bullshit.All religious people are deluded, but at least I understand where the true believers are coming from.
>>43784919It would be nice if they lived in their own cordoned off part of the world so their thoughts didn't affect me.
>>43785439unfortunately part of their thoughts is "i have to spread my thoughts across the globe."
>>43785411>No bullshit. Whether you're Christian or Muslim you believe you have literal instruction from the supreme creator on how to live your lifeThis post was written by incredibly stupid person. Because they likely were socialized in protestant culture directly or indirectly they think for some reason all major religions feature a Sola Scriptura-type theological doctrine. To anyone who even took a high school level world religion class and is aware that for example in Islam literal quaranism is viewed as hereticism by even the most radical demonitions this just comes across as like a flat earther having an opinion in orbital dynamics.
>>43785217>ostracize yourself from community you've been living in for your whole lifeChristians can stop been christians and lose nothing. They stop going to church es but also celebrate festivities with families while not pretending to be christians. Why muslims cant?
>>43784962>he's doing a taqiya it's a trapYou are certifiable; seek help
>>43784979lol what the fuck? He is a practicing Muslim.
>Muslims are conservative Typical backwards savages>Muslims are modern and liberalTaqiyya! It's a trap! They're doing a vegan community potluck as cover for the caliphate
>>43787128>>43787176wow i can't believe people would believe that muslims would do the thing their book tells them to do thats such a schizo idea
>>43784919>hold them to an Islamic standard according to what Allah has revealedin other words, they want to be able to behead them
>>43787996there is no penalties on homosexuality in the Quran.
>>43784954lmfao are you really this stupid
>>43784962>>43787876taqiyya is a shia concept and it is basically to hide your religious affiliation to avoid religious persecution. many minority religious groups in the middle east developed taqiyya and general secrecy to avoid persecution. generally taqiyya is not followed by sunnis which makes sense as they have always been the majority and much more likely to do the oppressing. at any rate the point isnt to infiltrate anything, but rather to avoid harm. naturally as you wont face persecution for being a muslim in the west, and the fact that these people are open about being muslim, they are not engaging in any taqiyya. /pol/acks do not understand anything about islam so they just use the concept as an excuse to assume that any muslim that doesnt conform to their rigid conceptions is not a true muslim or is actively lying, but of course they rarely use the same vigour for hating christians>>43785171>that they're someone else's propertythis is feminist gibberish. head scarfs have been worn in various different cultures throughout history (fun fact: even the greeks had head scarfs). the point is general modesty and signalling ones devotion to god
>>43784919I don't care what Muslims say I don't care what Jews say I don't care what Christians saynone of these religions are truly close to god.
>>43788906Maybe stop detonating suicide vests in crowded areas
>>43788906Scarves may have been worn for a long time, but the concept and name of hijab was invented and coined in the 20th century.
>>43788940>the concept and name of hijab was invented and coined in the 20th centurymuslims wore headscarfs before that though?
>>43788906muzzie damage control lmfao
>>43784919>Thoughts on muslims being mad at other muslims for supporting pride month?it's shitty>>43784933what about White Evangelicals, Mormons, and "trad" Catholics? are they next on the chopping block?
>>43789000honestly lets make them first, if we're starting for america's sake. Not really any radical muslims in power demanding we liquidate the country's public orgs to pay thet country next to jordan for another bombing run
>>43784919the false ancient backwards antihuman abrahamic faiths will never support anyone different from their ingrained normsthe support is the exception not the rule; and even then its usually only to a point; not in my backyard/family kind of thing
>>43789000the first two do what you want but the last one tells me you're probably a kike. which is my other main priority
>>43787176it's weird how people that complain Muslims are conservative also usually are conservative themselves, and hate liberal Muslims too. it's almost like they don't hate conservatives, but actually just hate Muslims. i'm an atheist way so i think all theistic religions are wrong (including all monotheistic religions (Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Samaritanism) and polytheistic religions (Hinduism, paganism), but i believe in a little thing called freedom. that means women shouldn't be forced to wear a headscarf or not to wear a headscarf. anyone who tries to take women's freedom or my freedom should be punished
>>43789073you're better off dead, and i don't care how painful it is
>>43789078>i believe in a little thing called freedom. that means slaveowners shouldn't be forced to give up their slaves or not to give up their slaves.
>>43789087haha i hit the nail on the head. hey don't be so spiteful and violent man thats why we don't like you.
>>43786268because its socially structured exactly like a cult. have you ever interacted with an ex muslim? even the ones that despise islam are still coated with brainwashing goop
>>43788906you are actually so retarded i can't believe this is even a joke
>>43789103>>43789073>>43784933common boymoder flag W. only correct takes in this thread
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>>43788906>Actually [bad thing] is Shia>No actually [bad thing] is SunniAnd round and round it goes, every time.
>>43785323unsurprisingly 99.9% of bigotry involves mental gymnastics to make themselves morally superior and dissociate from any undeniable heinous acts. those people still vote for all of those things once theyre in the polling booth
>>43788906>feminist gibberishoverplaying your hand my muzzie boy
>>43788929i thought that pic was christian
>>43788976They had stopped to, at least in egypt. hijab was invented in modern times to make people do it and added a bunch of symbolism to it that never existed earlier
>>43789095the people treating women like slaves are the ones telling them what to wear>>43789103you're the one pushing genocidal rhetoric against muslims and jews, fascist scum
>>43789274you mean they stopped and then returned back to tradition? how could it be "invented" when they were simply appropriating things their ancestors already practiced?>>43789208taqiyya is not a bad thing. the purpose was to avoid harm done to the person. you didnt even read what i wrote, or you are struggling to understand. i am not saying shias are bad either, as they are actually pro-trans and give people with gender dysphoria loans for surgery>>43788932>>43788979>>43789180>>43789252>no argumentsi am getting tired of the western pseudo-rw pushing hatred for a people who maintain traditional identity and culture. my main criticism of islam is that they should keep to themselves and if they do something like run for offices, be willing to make concessions to the dominant culture they find themselves in
>>43789342>they should keep to themselvesliterally impossible. their book tells them to do everything they can to take over the globe.
>>43789362a few missionaries practicing dawah is different from being imposing upon others on what they should do. there have been muslims who have historically practiced the former
>>43789362don't Christians have evangelism and Jews have Zionism? not all, but some. same with Muslims. i disagree with Islam but i disagree with all religion. why single out one? is it because you're just xenophobic and associate Islam with foreigners? probably
>>43789374they call non islamic territory dar al harb. land of war. that war being their jihad. it is a conquest ideology. it cannot be suffered to exist on this earth, alongside other competing religious frameworks.
>>43789383no, its not remotely the same thing. I've read the quran. the things it says are allowable in the name of their bullshit are truly insane. they can't live alongside other people. they're worse at it than literally everybody else on the planet.
>>43784919There's no reason to have muslims in western countries. Nor sikhs, hindus or jews. Importing third world browns is the most anti-LGBT action possible. Millions must go.
>>43789389if you wanna play this game we can play it. as an atheist, i have nothing to lose
>>43789427son it's not about religion at all, you're just racistgot itand nazis love LGBTs, right? oh, wait...
>>43789429im not playing games with you freak
>>43789439>you're just racistYeah because nonwhites are hostile to LGBT. They can go be bigots in their home countries.
>>43789342Religion logic dictates that everything invented must be claimed to be ancient. The older something is claimed to be the more true it must be. Doesnt even matter it has zero historical attestation.
>>43789480To me it seems a little strange to consider scripture as a type of failed historical and philosophical treatise, it seems you’ve misunderstood.
>>43784933Real>>43784954He either doesn’t support shit or isn’t Muslim. Either way he’s a liar.>>43789000Yes they should be killed next, inshallah
Anybody on this board running defense for Islam is genuinely retarded and can go hold a pride parade in Saudi Arabia. Modern day Islam is incompatible with LGBT rights in a way that modern day Christianity or Judaism simply are not, and I despise those religions as well. >"But my muslim friend..."Go ask them how their mosque or favorite muslim influencers speak about LGBT people and whether they'll condemn it, the answer might surprise you.
>>43789384this was a juristic notion developed after the quran to determine lands that were dangerous to muslims>>43789480its not a religious attestation though its just simple history of what everyone including muslims practiced?
>>43789958It was coined first in the 20th century. Its history starts there.
>>43789971even if this was true there is a difference between coining a word and the actual practice which pre-existed the use of the word?
We have explicitly LGBT friendly mosques in the UK (inclusive mosque initiative) but you don't hear about them because they're inconvenient to people who use lgbt issues as a cover for their other hatred
>>43790203It wasn’t spoken about and wasn’t practiced ever. The fact they needed to invent a new term proves it was a new practice as there was never anything preventing them from doing it earlier.
>>43784954Mamdani, like Khan, is very clearly more serious about being progressive than he is about being Muslim.>>43784919If Muslims don’t like western values then they shouldn’t be in the west, if you can’t integrate then you don’t belong here and you’re wanting to remain is essentially a declaration that you wish to attack us.
>>43790300>Mamdani, like Khan, is very clearly more serious about being progressive than he is about being Muslim.>If Muslims don’t like western values then they shouldn’t be in the westwell, obviously if you define real Muslim" as trans/homophobic and say that everyone who is progressive is not a real Muslim, then you've pretty much answered your own question. Tautologically, Muslims must hate you. however, there are practicing muslims who do not agree with you. They follow the pillars of Islam and are still gay or trans or supportive. I think they know better than you about what they are, and I don't see a conflict, or at least no more than with christians.
>>43784919>and for the majority of British Muslimsreligious people always say stuff like this and it's only true if you restrict the term to encompass only the members of their particular radical sect. you see christians do this kind of thing all the time as well.
>>43789342get a fucking grip
>>43789429>>43789383why is the kike still posting in this thread
>>43793088>yet another case of a male politician telling women what to wearanyone who tells women what to wear should just die
chuddy can never figure out whether to call me antisemitic, a muzzie, or a kike. it's almost like i'm an anti-Zionist atheist and you can't pigeonhole me by my religious background (which is Abrahamic)
