>go to store to buy underwear >Try my best to avoid eye contact and be quick>already feel myself breathing harder/faster >walk past a group >silence, followed by laughter and a mocking tone>Have to go to the woman's section>feel like a creepy idiot >quickly buy underwear >leave sweaty from nerves and embarrassed how do any of you do this??? I'm home crying now, I did my best with makeup and everything. still got laughed at and probably stared at too. people hate trannies and that's all I can think about when I'm outside. it fucking sucks, I feel like the village freak.I feel scared to go outside and it's ruined my life. im tired and unmedicated and I'm going to sleep. hopefully I have dreams of being a normal cis woman who has a normal life.
>>43785895>page 4, 0 replies ok then. cool. :(
I buy all my clothes online
i think people aren't biting bc pretty much all of us trannies have gone through something like this. atp my bf buys my undies online. you should just shop online
>>43785895I'm sorry, nona :(Sometimes I feel the same way. Having supportive cisgender friends always helps me feel better. It's easier not to care about the people whose opinions don't matter when you are affirmed by the people you actually care about.Clothing specifically, I either buy it online or I go with someone.I hope things get better for you, nona ˆˆ
>>43786250You said you were going to sleep nobody wanted to bother you
>>43786296how am I supposed to have my social needs met if I cant even go outside without having a nervous panic attack?? I want friends and a bf too eventually but if I can't bring myself to go outside, then I'll be alone forever. It's been over 8 years of being isolated and I'm genuinely starting to lose faith that I'll ever be accepted by people. I honestly don't think I will. so friendships and being a wife will just be one of those things I want but can't explain.
>>43785895even now that i pass more i feel similarly, i get really anxious if i go to womens sections or spaces alone and avoid it if i can, i dont wanna make anyone uncomfortable :( hugs nona>>43786265same, i usually have really specific stuff in mind anyways
>>43786332if you've been isolated for eight years, maybe start with smaller things, like walking around the park, or going to the mall or movies? i think you did very well for throwing yourself in the deep end after not swimming for a very long time
what underwear did you get?
>>43786672a bra
>>43785895gonna be real dawg if you're spooked by being a visible tranny just larp and boymode at the underwear store, say you're buying shit for your gf
>>43788793BOYMODING DOESN'T HELP. I literally can't boymoder anymore. The only jeans I have are women's jeans and I just don't feel comfortable wearing male clothing anymore. it makes me feel ill.
>>43788811totally fair, sorry it wasn't a good suggestion just thought i'd throw it out theresocial anxiety is a bitch. honestly? fuckem, if you're this deep down the pipe just fucking be a menace to society, who gives a shit. fuck other people, if they gonna give you dirty looks and talk behind your back, why do you care what they think? they're fucken cunts, whats the point of any of this shit if youre gonna let some asshole keep you from ever seeing the sun? you need underwear bro, they have a problem with it? not your problem
>>43788841Ty anon <3 I really appreciate this. I should stop caring what people who already hate trannies think, like there's no point they're gonna hate me regardless.
>>43788859exactly boss :)
>>43785895if I saw an awkward tranny I would laugh too
>>43789010whats so funny about someone having an anxiety attack? I didn't find it very funny when I was in the store personally.
>>43785895internet until twinkhon or passoid unfortunately
>>43789031lol
>>43785895welcome to troon existence, you signed up for this and i dont know what you expected.you poor thing, i bet they told you transitioning would make you happy.
>>43789663Kill yourself, sincerely no joking shit. End your own life. you have ZERO value in life.you bumped my thread to say some bullshit :/
>>43789676awwww did i make the hon upset? ):just accept your a disgusting freak forever now like every other tranny. youll never be equal to your cis superiors, moid.
>>43788729nona I thought you were buying frilly pink panties or something, buying a bra is not weird at all! only a retard would think it's weird or pervy for someone with boobs to buy a bra...
>>43785895You're delusional No one paid attention to youNo one even remembers you were there anymoreThey forgot about you the second you leftThe world doesn't revolve around you sweetheart, grow a brain
>>43791824Sorry that was an asshole replyWhat I meant to say was, you're accepted in 99% of women's spacesYou're okay sweetheart, there's nothing you need to feel anxious aboutI know I personally don't pay much attention to amabs in women's sections when I'm shopping lol, hugsYou're welcome in this world, I promiseDon't listen to the retarded bigots
>>43791870I was gonna say your reply was so sweet and then I saw you call people "amabs". EW!!!t. not OP
That's really sad man
>>43791887WHAT, WOULD YOU RATHER I SAY POONERS??? I'm trying to be inclusive gimme a break </3
>>43791939Not pooner I'm a fucking dumbassJust kill me atp
>>43791939I don't give a shit if you say pooners, and I don't find it anywhere near as offensive as asab language. It's the opposite of inclusive to throw trans women in with men by calling them "amabs". It was an act that was done to you, it is not something you are. In doing this, you are implying there's some sort of essence that you can't ever change that forever sticks with you based on what you were assigned at birth. Please never do this again or i might cry :<
>>43791939>>43791950Why wouldn't you just say trans women?
>>43791968Okie :3>>43791981My target wasn't trans women in particularI was just trying to say that seeing someone presenting as male in the women's section at clothing store isn't really that at weird lolIn retrospect using "amab" for that was stupid so yeahI'm a dumbass </3 Sowwy
>>43792019yeah, it doesn't even mean the thing that you intended to refer to :<thank you for being open to being corrected and improving, nona :>
>>43792019>presenting as maleOP said> I did my best with makeup and everything.
>>43791968>It was an act that was done to youBy who? The doctor? Did he sew a penis on you during delivery so he could “assign” you a certain way? Or was it your mom? Did she consciously reject egg fertilization by XX sperm?The stupidest thing about “assigned” language is that it implies agency where none ever existed.
>>43792044The language originated with intersex people where it absolutely IS an arbitrary decision by a doctor to massively shift your life one way or the other. Then we realised it's also arbitrary with everyone else too, to decide someone born with a penis has to grow into a man instead of taking estrogen and growing into a woman, or that someone born with a vagina has to grow into a woman instead of taking testosterone and growing into a man.
>>43788841>>43788859Skull gunslinger anon's right. You can't make everyone like you, and many folk will dislike you. Especially if you have some form of visible anxiety, which evil people love to see you as lesser for.You can't make everyone love you, yet the people who do love you are potential lifelong friendships. A penultimate dislike with a penultimate love swinging at its equal and opposite axis. Building bits of beauty in spite of life's occasional ugliness. There's a beauty to that. Remember that.
>>43792060>then WE decidedOoohhh so that's where you fucked up.Thinking you know more aboutkah approximate sex for a person than a person that like, studies intersex cases for when they arise (and uses information about how certain cases live as either assigned sex to choose the "best fit"), professionally.Nearly all humans will successfully produce exactly one gamete type and, at some point, be able to use them. That is what sex is and why it matters to us and our ancestors.
>>43792096>fuck people's happiness, what matters is making them able to breedstop obsessing over other people's genitals, freakpeople don't owe you fertility, and that goes for cis people too.
>>43792036<3 <3 <3>>43792039Which is even more reason for her to feel confident in herself!I understood this whole thing as an anxiety of her not being welcomed in those spacesI say she is! It doesn't matter if she's male- or female-presenting
>>43792060>Then we realised it's also arbitrary with everyone else tooMaybe you imagined that part? It’s absolutely not arbitrary. “AMAB” just means “penis haver”, because that’s how the assignments are designated. I’m sure it sucks to be intersex but troons need to stop appropriating language intended for the >.1% of the population that suffers from a serious genetic disorder.This is coming from a man with a deep dislike of his own penis, btw, so spare me your “gb2 /pol/“ or whatever other bullshit too.
>>43792192> man with a deep dislike of his own peniskek. see you on /mtfgen/ in 5 years
>>43792204lol, nah.I’m perfectly happy with my masculinity, just wish I had a poon instead of a cock.
>>43792222not all trans women are feminine. while I don't personally get it since all my life I really wanted the freedom to be feminiie, there are people out there who call themselves "butch trans women". that in and of itself does not mean you cannot be a trans woman
>>43792102Society literally dies if we were to stop caring about sex (via gametes, not some state ID you can toggle like a light switch) as a core unalterable trait. Sex exists for the sake of cycling genes around via gametes.Not that you can't obliterate your gametes on purpose but that doesn't change what's happened to your body. It won't make the other gametes. It won't go back in time and undo everything.And I believe in separation of gender and sex, if that helps make me seem like I respect pronoun and identity shifts.
>>43792234I can’t be a trans woman because I don’t want to be a trans or a woman.
>>43792248"not caring" doesn't mean they aren't there. people would still have children even if there was only one gender for both sexes. I don't get your point.
