Why don't more trannies wear dresses? I think women look really pretty in dresses but the best you get is that same cheap black skirt they all get off Amazon.
>>43803950What you're really demanding for is more high value trans rather than the prototype outcasts of decades past who could barely keep their lives together which the world is indeed slowly drifting toward. Some of us are young, poor, or will never be high value and it's the last two parts that truly makes for undesirable. Outside of that, wardrobes are expensive and black skirts match almost anything.
>>43803950I agree but that's also because dresses are just easier than skirts when it comes to developing an outfit.
>>43803950There's a lot of reasons why I prefer the skirt/top combo to a full dress:1. Dresses are a generally a lot more expensive. 2. Dresses are a lot less flexible3. Most dresses do not flatter my shape4. There are a lot of very cool tops these days5. It's a lot harder to layer with a dress. 6. Most dresses are not suitable for casualwear
>>43804000I was literally asking why you guys don't wear pretty dresses. You can thrift a decent looking dress for like 20$. I'm talking like floral summer dresses not high-quality silk or something like that.>black skirts match almost anythingYet most trannies manage to dress like shit anyway. >>43804018Exactly. You can just wear a nice summer dress, a hat, and maybe a necklace and you're basically 90% done. I'm a cis male but I know about women's fashion because I'm a bit zesty. >>438040671. Thrifting2. ??? What3. Keep looking4. Dresses have tops5. Not really 6. ??? Do you people think I'm talking about ballroom dresses
>>43804089Well I'm a burgerhon where dresses are hard to find to begin with. Also most trans tend to be poor because of being outcasts of society. So like I said, it's less about the black Amazon dress which actually allows some people some form of affirming wardrobe and the fact you want more high value trans in regards to looks and social status to where they can actually afford and be attractive for your own satisfactions. I won't ever be that and soon you won't have to deal with my ugly mug anyways. I know that's not soon enough. My bad.
>>43804155I live in burgertopia and if I had any inclination to I could walk 5 minutes and find a place that sells dresses for 30-60$ brand new. Even cheaper on clearance. I just bought my mom a new dress from there for Mother's day this year. You're intentionally misinterpreting my words in the worst possible manner and this quality is why people can't stand you, it has nothing to do with your "value" or "social status" and everything to do with your overly persecutory language. Your external locus of control and tendency to dramatize and catastrophize every single interaction you have is immensely draining on your friends and loved ones because the social contract dictates they must then spend emotional labor trying to cheer you up. But it never works because you don't want to be cheered up, you'd rather remain perpetually miserable because it allows you the opportunity to farm attention and validation from the more clueless among the human race who genuinely believe you're seeking help. Most of the things wrong with your life are a direct result of your own actions, but admitting that feels more painful than anything else because you have an intense fear of failure and rejection. So you'd rather label yourself a failure preemptively than even attempt to look or act like a decent woman. Your vague allusions to suicide will not work on me, find another thread to whore in.
>>43804259Sure thing, boss. Whatever you say. Should I KMS now or wait for the inevitable cancer to take me? Probably the later since that's more suffering, right? Since I seem to be impartial to that, how about everything else around me? Nah. Cause now I'm too aware for that. Let's go for some real cartel cia shit with brutal torture and mutilation to keep me alive as long as possible. Does that get you off? Why make things easy. Let's just keep doing what we're doing where you make a jab, I refute it, and you can continue to practice being the best sociopath you can be. How about all the above! Let that radio keep on jamming until the batteries run out.
>>43803950Dresses see like such an inconvenience, I can see why people don't wear them often
>>43804359Yeah, this is pretty much exactly what I was talking about. Have you ever heard of the terminology "covert narcissism"? >>43804548You literally just put it on and it's fine. It's not very complicated.
>>43804548They're more convenient than skirts but less convenient than pants.
>>43804564>You literally just put it on and it's fine.>wind>getting caught on random edges or hooks more often>not very good for anything but sitting or standing>fabric but less leg protection unlike pantsIt's less versatile I guess. Cute for fashion sometimes, though.
>>43804633Millions if not billions of women wear dresses or similar garments every year and they seem to have figured it out. Hell, men do too in some places. Wearing pants is not the norm in huge portions of the world's population yet none of them have seem to struggle with these horrible issues you're talking about.
>>43804564You can call it whatever you want as damage control and most people will believe it since most people are too dumb and ignorant. You posted I can nut to this complaining about cheap Amazon skirts and now trying to backpedal and acting like you actually care about helping others with fashion because it's all just a game to you. I was being 100% truthful and now It's the fact I got under your thick skin to even respond is what I'll forever take satisfaction with just like you're doing to me. So I'll say it again>Most people are poor>Black pairs well with everything>Not everyone can be your fetish>Cry harder
>>43803950how many trans woman do u know? the trans folk i know an i myself do wear dresses once in a while. its just not the everyday outfit
>>43804705See how quickly you flipped from "I'm a weak little ugly thing I'm sorry for existing" to launching personal attacks and continuing to advance this fictional scenario in your head? That would be the narcissism, honey. You need to live in a world where you are perpetually being victimized to protect yourself from admitting you may just be a vile person. Everything is always someone else's fault, is that right? Grow up.>>43804716I live in Portland, Oregon.
>>43804670I have complained about these things before. I'm sure they feel comfortable in a dress, but I definitely can't. I think it also depends on hobbies/lifestyle, too. If you're someone casually dealing with animals or plants throughout the day, I don't think you want to wear a dress.
>>43804740I never once but again. Keep up the damage control. I'm starting to think it's more for your own ego than anyone else lurking.
>43804764I'm not giving you any more (You)'s unless you can learn to ask for attention in a more appropriate manner. Bother someone else.>>43804760When I go to work, I wear work pants and a work shirt. When I'm not at work, I dress more casually. Is this just not a consideration for trans women? Like, that you can wear different articles of clothing depending on the situation?
Yall are retarded dresses only cost around 35$, thats the same price as pants alone.What are you doing to think otherwise, going to department stores where they upsale selling to old people?
>>43804781Maybe I have zero desire to be your subby little shit heel which seems to bother you the most. I stood up for myself and others you decided to toss under the bus because they dare to do something that didn't get your dick hard and will never ever never feel bad about that. A thousand slings and arrows. Fuck you.
>>43804813Thank you for trying to teach these ignorant women. There needs to be more of that within the trans community.
>>43804900>Black Hoodie>Black Pants>Black Tennis ShoesAwh gosh why does evveryone misgendeer me!!!!It makes me facepalm whenever I see transgirls who wont wear makeup, heels, or skirts/dresses. Acceptable for babytrans whove been on hormones for less than 2 years, after that either be a woman or dont be.
>>43804952Well they're obviously not receptive to hearing about this from someone not on hormones, so I'd implore you to do your best to education trans women about how to actually be women. Though I fear you'll likely be labeled a pickme for doing so, as if the goal of being a trans woman is not indeed to become a woman.
>>43804976LGBT hons have hated me forever because I don't hugbox.Shockingly when I transitioned I reached out to (cis)female friends and family to help me transition, shocking, I know.Of course one does get the vibe the typical asg-esque tranner has few to no (cis)female friends when they transition
>>43805073Most have few friends in general. It's not like the average tranny is in a good spot to begin with and transition usually just makes things worse socially.
>>43805106You're right, some sympathy and understanding is warranted. Until you start making excuses, rejecting, and attacking the help of other women, trans or cis, who are trying to help
>>43804781>Is this just not a consideration for trans women?Some of us stay working. Someone always needs some help, unfortunately.
>>43805188There's also the anxiety of it. Tranny neuroticism built from often decades of self-denial can lead to some pretty severe guilt and other mechanisms that result in self-isolation. That's before getting to the dysphoria aspect.
>>43805249>decadesThe latest successful transition I ever saw was 25 desu.Eventually sympathy has to be balanced against reality and personal autonomy.
i used to wear many dresses and do a full beat every day when i worked at the women's clothing store. now that it's (almost) friday and i ain't got no job and i ain't got nothin' better to do i wear a dress like once a season if that
You need to be actually fembrained to wear dresses
>>43803950the more feminine the outfit, the more it highlights the masculine elements in the wearer.
>>43805351Just explaining some of the mechanisms because the neuroticism, for some, can run REALLY DEEP and different people end up with different coping mechanisms. The most successful transitions I see tend to be from people who basically didn't have any actual institutionalized pressures on them growing up, just interpersonal ones.
>>43805073I believe, as with many things, the pendulum has swung too far in the opposite direction the past few years. It is true that in the past people were uncaring, unempathetic, and talking about one's feelings and emotions was seen as anathema to being a good hard-working American. But allowing your entire life to be dominated by "protecting your peace" and "giving grace and holding open the space for those less willing to push the limits of what they feel is safe" and other such therapyspeak is what leads people to becoming stagnant, angry, and unwilling to accept change or other points of view (ironically enough, considering this is the "open minded" crowd (See: >>43804828))I believe, as with all things, the best position is moderation. Allow emotions and feelings a seat at the table when it comes to making decisions, but do not let them govern your entire life. If someone is trying to push you to better yourself, its not because they think you're an insufficient person and it's not a personal attack. >>43805245You can't fill up someone else's cup if your own is empty.>>43805383Once a season is better than never.>>43805384True, that's oddly rare among trans women in my experience both online and in real life.>>43805490It's a lot better than walking around in a tank top and camo-print cargo pants. And the baseball caps, why always with the baseball caps?
>>43805955camo print cargo pants accentuate the waist and hips. tank top slims the shoulders. any sort of hat hides forehead/hairline. this is just a good outfit to deal with tranny proportions.
>>43805988A lot of people aren't wearing their cargos high enough or just don't have enough in the hips department.
>>43805988You're thinking far too utilitarian. Most people aren't hyper-analyzing your proportions, they are looking at how you dress and represent yourself overall. That's how men dress.
>>43803950im too lazy to clean up my disgusting hairy + razor-burned legs
>>43806084ok, well they are going to see man in a dress represented, otherwise.>>43806078and a dress isnt gonna show lack of hips?
>>43806107I'm curious, because this seems to be an ongoing thing. When I say "dress", what exactly are you thinking of? >>43806095At least you're honest.
>>43806107Depends on the style a lot are made specifically for frauding hips
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>>43806177You picked an image of a boyish woman and you're not seeing what I mean with "women look more pretty in a dress"? If you put her hair up in a baseball cap and gave her dude clothes (like what many trans women wear) she could pass as a feminine guy.
>>43806235>boyish womanwhat?I just don't think women look more pretty in a dress. She would look better in an outfit with pants. frankly I don't care about looking pretty. i just want to pass, and if I cannot pass, I don't want to look like an obvious tranny.
>>43803950i have a nice black floral bodycon dress i wore for my anniversary :) i liked it. the main reason i dont wear dresses is i only have one pair of shoes that go with a dress, but im working on that. thank god for gay guys + trans women that donate to thrift stores>>43806347i understand this urge. i just make sure that if my clothes are androgynous, my voice, mannerisms and accessories sure tf arent. simple as
>>43806347You're wrong on every single level. You need a factory reset. >>43806422I'm glad you have something pretty to wear, it sounds like you had a good time. It's an ongoing process, of course.
>>43806517oh definitely. i will also say that a lot can be done with pants that most trannies just dont, like flared skinny jeans with a boat neck and some accessories that match you and the fit can be an adult human female serve while also being a touch more dressy than a tanktopeffort is good, actually
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>>43806583I'm not saying pants are the devil, but I'm certainly saying most trannies have literally zero fashion sense and it becomes doubly apparent when they walk around wearing the signature frumpy hoodie+baby's first skirt. >>43806594Wearing the same clothes every other tranny does is not how you avoid looking like an obvious tranny.
>>43806630no im totally with u was just adding on. i wish the avg trans woman was more afraid of being clocky, itd srsly save them a lot of suffering
>>43806630in everyday situations (grocery store, bars, etc) , I think ive seen more trannies in dresses/skirts than cis women
>>43806675- as in it would front-load a lot of the suffering, and alleviate a lot more long-term pain later. growing pains are real, its unrealistic to expect to get things right first try.>>43806692hm. where are you located? i mostly see boymoders/manmoders/tanktopmoders in texas
>>43806692Once again, I live in Portland Oregon. Seattle and Portland are basically Sodom and Gomorrah when it comes to trannies. I think I have seen a tranny wearing a dress a single time here and she looked pretty. That being said, it is true a lot of cis women have become very masculine and ugly lately. I have longer hair than most cis women I know and I'm a man. >>43806675I think the problem is they don't actually want to be women, they just don't want to be men. They're essentially third sexing themselves by identifying with the trans label first and the woman label second.
>>43803950personally its because i dont have a single graceful bone in my body. id trip in a long one and always be one forgetful leg fold away from flash in a short one. would not wear the cheap amazon black skirt for the same reason.
>>43806730sfbay
>>43803950>Why don't more trannies wear dresses?insecurity. i use them occasionally but it took many years of living as a "girl" for me to build the courage to do so. my wool dress that has pockets is actually probably my favorite piece of clothing>that same cheap black skirt they all get off Amazonyoure thinking of "femboys". trannies dont wear that shit, thats femboy gooners. btw hrt gave me a fat ass and now my farts make more noise and i dont like it
>>43807238can i watch you fart please
I'm too embarrassed and when I show any skin I feel naked and vulnerable
More trannies need to wear dresses and pantyhose
>>43803950dresses r expensive
>>43803950No, you're right. Dresses have a very feminizing effect. In fact I just went out and bought six
>>43805955Id agree with you if the United States wasn't one of the most trans accepting countries on Earth atm, as horrendous as that is to say.You do have to push yourself to some degree, no one is ever ready for anything you just have to do it.>>43806583Transgender people have more presure on them to conform to gender norms lest you have your identity questioned, not presenting femme affirms peoples ideas that you're just a larping man.>>43806630I am saying pants are the devil.I havent worn pants in like ten years, I dont even own them anymore.>>43806800Thats because Liberals are trying to make women more masculine and men more feminine, its pretty disgusting.
>>43807238>no ass postedToday we mourn...
>>43803950I have to be really picky with dresses or it makes me look horrid. Dressing for your body type is an acquired skill and dresses for inverted triangle shapes are not what's commonly sold
>>43803950id rather not get raped and/or murdered on the street given the option
>>43810501omg I love you queen
>>43810501>You do have to push yourself to some degreeThat's exactly what I'm saying. You have to push yourself. You have to be willing to feel discomfort. Coddling and hugboxing leads to stagnation. >Thats because Liberals are trying to make women more masculine and men more feminine, its pretty disgusting.It's not the liberals who are doing it. There are (((individuals))) who stand to benefit if everybody melts into a homogenous sludge Third Impact style. The introduction of the dual-income household model already made (((several people))) much more rich than they otherwise would be, and that was really when this whole thing began. >I havent worn pants in like ten years, I dont even own them anymore.Based as fuck. >>43810417No they aren't. I bought one for my mom just this year for Mother's day. I sell dresses at the store I work at. They are not any more expensive than a pair of pants. I paid 90$ for a work shirt just last year and it cost more than most dresses I see.
>>43812311Despite what the media and modern feminism would like you to believe, violent crime has been on the steady decline for decades now. The streets are safer than they have ever been and they are only getting safer. You're not going to get randomly raped and murdered. Most rape/murder victims are targeted by people they already know. Most trannies get murdered/raped while performing risky actions like sex work, getting involved in drugs or petty crime, meeting strangers off Grindr, etc. Not just walking down the street minding their own business. >>43812292Fitting rooms exist.
>>43812997>fitting roomsObviously I try clothes on before buying them pendejo If the store doesn't have anything that looks right on me then it's a waste of time trying anything on. I'm very familiar with what styles look good on me and are worth trying on
>>43803950i mean trans men wear dresses more often than trans women do, look at subreddits like ftmfemininity
>>43814332There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Horacio.
>>43803950not really my stylewhat stake could you possibly have in this anyway? severely gay (annoying) thread
>>43814407This thread is directed toward women.>>43814389This is very true. I dated a pooner for 2 years and he wore dresses with some frequency.
>>43814439>women is when you wear a dress
>>43814392Obviously, and when I find them, I buy them. They're just hard to find is what I'm getting at, or I'd have moreI do wear them tho, mostly sundresses around the house when I'm trying to turn my bf on lol, but when we go out I have several dresses to look nice
>>43814512You self-identify as a terminology used by faggots+a word for an ugly tranny. You are not a woman. >>43814561Well then you're already doing well. The fact you wear them at all puts you several letter grades above the self-hating homosexual men in this thread.
>>43803950Im scared and just dress like a dyke
>>43812949>It's not the liberals who are doing it. There are (((individuals))) who stand to benefit if everybody melts into a homogenous sludge Third Impact style. The introduction of the dual-income household model already made (((several people))) much more rich than they otherwise would be, and that was really when this whole thing began. Youre right Im just generalizing because its frustating, excuse me.>>43812997You're right, but to be sex work should be decriminalized.>>43814439>>43814389This kind of makes me sick desuLiterally just pretending to be a man for special snowflake points.Why do I get the feeling Pooners wouldnt wear makeup or dresses if they got beaten and bullied for it like amabs do?
>>43814821>But to be fair, sex work should be decriminalized*
>>43814714>overly literal tourist had to look up what twinkhon meantautism speaks
>>43814847If you truly believed you're a woman, you'd just call yourself a woman. But you don't believe that, so you don't call yourself a woman, so I shouldn't either. Now run along and find someone else to annoy, no more (You)'s unless you can learn how to behave, faggot.>>43814821>>43814828I can agree that, on principle, sex work ought to be decriminalized and regulated (like it is in Nevada), but I do not trust the current American government and populace to handle it appropriately if it ever was.
>>43814904>trans women aren't womenracist
i bought a dress a few days ago online if it doesnt fit me im going to kms though its a sleeveless white broderie one i thought was cute to layer with cardigan or sweater or something pic not me but stealing this look lol
>>43815679>dirty mirror>cat hair everywhere>random boxes underneath bed>shoes on inside housedo am*ricans really
>>43815679Looks cute, though the boots are a bit much in my personal opinion. But I think it looks good overall, thank you for sharing. >>43815698Post how much money is in your bank account in USD.
>>43803950Men's wear is by default more utilitarian. Losing functionality seems wrong when the only thing youre getting out of it is looking cute. I think its a good metric for seeing how committed someone is to their new identity. You see someone in a great outfit and they're carrying a purse? They know what they want and they're getting it.
>>43803950Clothes, especially thrifting where we live, is expensive, not as expensive as outright buying but, still, barely surviving as is.Plus we still need to get thinner before we can rock some actually good looks, one day though, especially if nice anons buy us clothes
>>43816157Being cute is utilitarian for women. Physical attractiveness matters more than anything for women. If you don't believe me, well, I guess just kinda look at society for longer than 5 minutes.>>43816307Skinny is not a good look for any woman, much less one with a male skeleton. A woman should have some meat on her bones.
>>43816333>Skinny is not a good lookWe're not anamaxxing silly, just want to get down to a nice weight and build muscle to contour the fat we have!!, cycling y'know? Our goal right now is 160-180 before we decide what to do next
