>>43811750
you don't look like that though

Uncanny valley effect

>abt
Thank god you saved those two vowels i

>>43811760
just didnt know what image to use, not that deep so answer the question

>>43811767
elaborate, i'm curious

>>43811750
You're a woman and this board is full of bitter males. That's why.

>>43812407
They often look vaguely but not really like men and the effect is deeply uncomfortable. It makes it difficult to engage with them normally

>>43812429
sucks for you then, cope

>>43812429
>t. bitter woman

>>43811750
>why
vajussy

>>43812432
see, i can get that but honestly it shouldn't really matter on an anonymous message board.
also still trying to figure out why theres such a big divide with people only on the extreme ends

>>43811750
You should try acting normal before expecting people to treat you normal

>>43812436
sucks for op, she asked why
>>43812443
im less bitter than half of this board.

>>43812470
>>43812475
not even good bait guys put some effort in

>>43812475
says the woman with trans derangement syndrome

>>43811750
just because youre on the lgbt part doesnt mean youre not on an incel image board. people here can't be normal abt anyone afab due to deeply internalized incel rhetoric. go find trannies in normie spaces and they will be much more normal abt ftms

>>43812486
bait? thats truth
males here have womb and puss envy
that's why ftms get hated on, because they're women.

>>43811750
Very female-coded of you to get upset about it and make a post like this. If you were really a man you'd be able to take it on the chin better

>>43812488
>says the woman with trans derangement syndrome
I'm inclusive with trans men.

>>43812499
so true he has divine afab feminine energy!!! he'll always be a wombyn deep inside so he must suffer the burden of misogyny he so deeply sought to shake off! he's just a lost wombyn forces to comply with the patriarchy and the evil amabs that perpetuate it...

see
>why can't people be normal abt ftms

>>43812512
If op were a real man they'd be able to take deez nuts on the chin better

>>43812522
>divine afab feminine
hon rage

>>43812526
had a good laugh at this

>>43812533
im not trans

>>43812537
sure!

>>43812499
so "trans women" are just troonmaxxed incels?

>>43812537
>>43812544
can you two like do this weird flirting shit elsewhere i dont want to see your deranged dyke mating dance

>>43812522
"energy" get your weird hippy crystal shit out of here are you touching up the screen "absorbing my energy" or something

>>43811750
this board isn't normal about anyone non

>>43812533
>Lesbian is fed up with self described men who choose to go on T all doing wishy washy "woman at heart" bs and remaining in lesbian spaces post transition
>"What are you, a tranny?"
The most terfy lesbians are always at most just bisexual, political lesbians.

>>43812595
that was the point of the satire yeah i think those people are insufferable too

I just think of them like funny little jesters

>>43811750
we all get that, anon
and it always sucks and is yucky

>>43812615
actually i'm not doing that woman at heart shit so go find someone in femreppergen or something to shit all over

>>43811750
>overly hating on us
because you are women
>fetishising us
because you are women

desu, I am a pooner but ever since going on T I can't stop fetishizing other pooners. I'm addicted to cuntboy porn but self insert as the guy fucking them.

>>43812665
and you're such a tough man aren't you?

>>43812651
Well yeah obviously you aren't and I doubt that lesbian nona has an issue with you but she clearly doesn't like the "Trans men are women at heart!" terfy infantilizing bs and I agree with her on that

>>43812677
soulpassoid, gg you win

>>43812677
only fetishising i accept (most of the time)
my bf's also trans so i get it

I don't hate ftms but I participate in the hazing because afab privilege needs to be destroyed and they are always riding on it. I get treated like a violent predator for simply existing, meanwhile ftms can be edgy and make rape jokes and everyone still thinks they're cuddly cute smol beans. I don't like that, it's not fair, and I resent them for being able to take advantage of it.

>>43812720
i get that, obviously in a different way but yeah. people are constantly being demeaning to me and treating me like a child or like their gal pal. it's honestly insufferable, girls do it the most i've noticed and are always touching me and I really hate it

>>43812720
>>43812756
The solution is to start passing and start going outside and interacting with normal people, this will fix this problem pretty quickly

>>43812801
>start passing
Sure :)

>>43812801
Passing as what though

>>43812801
I pass most of the time to strangers, it's just when I talk that people notice

Ftms might be able to pass as a little boy for a while but that's very sus

>>43812823
as a normal (or close enough) man, so you get treated like one and adapt to it

>>43812834
You don't pass (yet) then

>>43812850
truly all i need is T, I just can't afford it

The average afab would be bottom 1st percentile for male height. You aren't passing lol

>>43812867
The average afab should not and usually won't transition, though

>>43812867
I'm 5'7, so short but not insanely so

>>43812882
You're right. Take gigachad elliott page, for example

>>43812903
I feel sorry for xim, If I were ellen/elliot page I would never transition and be a cute lesbian for life

>>43812903
>>43812882
look, I'm not transitioning for your approval, I'm gonna do it anyway just wanted to see why 4channers are so bitter specifically to trans men

>>43812682
not really im kind of a faggot i got bullied in highschool

>>43812934
bully women some more and i'm sure you'll stop being a pathetic faggot soon

>>43812932
If you think 4channers are cruel to trans men, wait until you find out how the rest of the world treats men as a whole
t. ftm

>>43812934
we all know dont worry

>>43812834
Try talking like Bale's batman.

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>>43811750
>honestly on this board i either see people overly hating on us or fetishising us
This is the standard male reaction to foids speaking. Why would you be suprised?

>>43811750
You're the backwards people

>>43812957
>>43812966
keep making fun of me ftms. being insulted by women is my fetish

>>43812974
be more creative
>>43812977
now thats actually good bait, I laughed. good job anon

>>43812976
okay, good point but you're the upside down people

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>>43812988
>>>43812974 (You) #
>be more creative
>>>43812977 #
>now thats actually good bait, I laughed. good job anon

>>43813017
i live to jestermaxx

>>43812977
>keep making fun of me ftms.
only if that makes you stop being a faggot

>>43813000
So, you REALLY weren't looking for answers.

>>43813037
>faggot
why do straight, trans identified women think its appropriate for them to fetishize us gay men and then call us slurs that they absolutely shouldn't be saying?

>>43811750
misogyny applied to trans men
also this board is full of male brained trans women

>>43813049
what are you on about

>>43811750
fertile gay wombs, lactating tits, need to be bred by gay cocks

>>43813037
literally, actually the least homophobic tranner

>>43813059
i'm calling you a slur yes

>>43811750
When have people on 4chan ever been normal about anything.

>>43813064
im flattered but thanks for proving my point mate

>>43813064
subtlest deep cover bi

>>43813068
thats not the point, i am aware of that. the question is why do you think thats appropriate? do you think saying no no words makes you a man? empathy is the manliest trait because women have no hearts (proved by this thread even)

>>43813080
post mangina sexy guy. do you still have sexy hips and tits?

>>43813095
faggot

>>43813089
i'm gay i've been with a woman once and i liked it but i'm only attracted to men, some shemen and trans boys

>>43813102
too far virgin

>>43812615
No lesbian talks like that.
"AFAB" stands for all women not just for trans men.
Trans men are women.
Trans women are men.
That's why mtfs hate ftms.
Womb envy, pussy envy.
Trans men belong in female spaces.

>>43813117
literally bisexual

>>43813125
trvke

>>43813095
my brother in christ, you came into this thread saying some bullshit and are now crying when people retaliate
get off 4chan if you dont want to be called a slur mate

>>43813130
penis is not the only thing that makes men. some men have vaginas. you are actually homophobic if you're not into bonus hole men.

>>43813125
I have a long running fantasy of being "forced" to use the womens locker room, and taking advantage of whatever 3.14 cis terf meat I can find. Even better if she's a lesbian. It's not really rape, right? We're all just girls here, so it's fine.

>>43813150
men don't have vaginas and women don't have pensies. what's wrong with being bisexual?

>>43813125
i would rather be raped again than be a woman and i'm not saying that lightly

>>43813150
Hm. No.

>>43813158
there it is

>>43813156
>cis men don't have vaginas
yes
>and cis women don't have pensies.
yes
>what's wrong with being bisexual?
they're fucking gross
>>43813165
yes, chud. you probably had crushes on men that were once women in their lives and didn't realize that

>>43813125
>Womb envy, pussy envy.

Not this.
It's female socialization in childhood, which I envy most!

>>43813175
>theyre fucking gross
didnt seem to have an issue begging one for nudes just then

>>43813148
nta but falling for the most obvious bait award

>>43813066
Why would I not be homophobic when you "people" all behave like freaks?

>>43813175
>bisexuals are gross
>is a bisexual himself
>>43813177
So you don't really want to be a woman? Then why call yourself one?
>It is estimated that 1/5 of girls, and 1/13 of boys, are victims of rape or rape attempts. We also know that 81% of all sexual violence begins before the age of 18, 51% before the age of 11, and 21% before the age of 6. (IPSOS 2019)

>>43813200
im retarded so gg

>>43813211
I hate you

>>43813190
????? what does mean
>>43813211
i'm gay, i'm attracted to men

>>43811750
You can say this for all trannies not just ftm's this board hates & fetishizes them both
You are on 4chud asking yourself this

>>43813251
I hate you too
>>43813296
Trans men are not men

Because people think you are women.

>>43811750
the people who fetishize you tend to be cis men who see you as dumb women who are so stupid you fell for the judeo-bolshevik trans psyop that is ruining the west and therefore as easy prey because if dumb jewish globohomo people could convince you then surely so can he
the people who hate you probably are more thinking about he/him theyfab ftfemboys and angry that they are essentially deligitimizing gender dysphoria

Pooner wombs.

>>43813935
retarded pornbrained chaser

Man transitions into a woman - there's less men now and more women so it gets easier for other men
Woman transitions into a man - there's less women now and more men so it gets harder for other men
I'm a man, it's already hard, I don't want shit to get harder

>>43814014
wtaf are you on about?

>>43814014
seethe its not all about you.
or just be gay idk

>>43814065
Basic self-interest

>>43814083
8 billion people on the planet btw, if you can't find even one that'll date you then you should reflect

>>43811750
People fetishize literally everything. Regardless of being trans, some people enjoy being fetishized. If you don't, simply tell the person if they make you feel that way. But also don't jump to conclusions either. Trauma responses are tough to not project onto others and most people who show genuine interest in you as a friend or more are still just seeing you as a man.

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>>43814014
>Man transitions into a woman - there's less men
>Woman transitions into a man - there's less women

>>43814120
my feelings are complicated, sometimes im alright with fetishisation because i like the attention and dont feel like a disgusting freak, but sometimes people overdo it to a creepy degree

>>43814083
no
elaborate

>>43814154
This is where communication is important and it's okay to decide that person just isn't for you. It's natural most people want a mind reader because its more simple and shows an unspoken connection in a way, but any successful relationship, platonic, romantic, or sexual still is more successful with communication since moods and feelings about things change as me move forward through live. People are contradictory messes.

all transgender persons have serious mental illness. ftm is the least reasonable, most abnormal and disgusting.

>>43814303
keep telling yourself that youre the normal one mate

>>43814297
Trauma can be tough. I have it from men and women, some of which is a deal breaker and others that turned into fetishes. We all process things in different ways. Not every partner is equiped to deal with trauma so a counselor or support groups where you can find a common thread might be the best option for you. You can also discuss this with your partner and create low stress environments where you feel more comfortable kissing them and slowly work through it as a way to rewire your brain. There is no golden ticket and it's okay to have boundaries of how and when you enjoy being kissed

>>43814013
Airhead sexy bonusholed little dood.

>>43811750
You just have to accept the board is a diverse place full of good, bad, chud, tranny, self-hating ftm etc.
idk why people r weird, I don't participate and i don't ask

>>43814369
thank you, i have spoken to him about it and he doesnt mind waiting and i am also starting to go to a specialist counsellor
but yes again, thank you for this

>>43811750
Have you tried passing and behaving like a man instead of a whiny bitch?

>>43814387
proving my point retard

>>43812429
Damn, even dykes don't take ftms seriously lol lmao even

>>43814362
little shit, where did I say anything about me

>>43814406
No problem. Please also remember it doesn't make you less or weak. There are people out there sans trauma who just don't enjoy kissing. The reason ultimately doesn't matter if it's something that causes you distress. The boundary does.

>>43814419
Mmmhm, I like when fmtwinks are bitchy :) Next thing you're gonna do is step on my bonus pole I hope.

>>43814495
dude no i have a bf whos a normal person and not on 4chan

>>43814426
Trans men are women
Trans women are men

>>43814533
"im retarded, how'd you know?"

>>43811750
>fetishising us
I'm sorry, I can't help it

>>43814564
may i ask why?

>>43814546
>you're retarded when you understand biology
If trans women are women and if trans men are men then why trans women hate trans men in incel male way?

>>43814533
Hating on trannies won't sprout you a real dick, bull dyke
Only soul passers are valid

>>43814582
jealousy and dysphoria

>>43814582
Pretty much. It's either transmisandry from dysphoria and viewing them as gender traitors or envy of the pre-ops who still get the privilege of a pussy pass.

>>43814593
> soul passers
mental gymnastics
Trans men are women in every way and trans women are men in every way.

>>43814593
I hate women, being a woman, hate existence of female sex.

>>43814627
yes push your insecurities onto other people!

>>43814627
>I wish I was a man!

>>43814609
They act like incels.
Why is it so hard to admit that dynamics between ftm and mtf is just autistic woman and bitter male incel?

>>43814651
>wa wa wa wa wa
holy winge

>>43814647
me too, why couldn't I be a man

>>43814666
>let's just ignore reality
Typical

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>>43814578
I don't know, since I found out about the concept, I can't imagine being with any other kind of person and can't get off unless at least one trans man is included in my fantasy

>>43814667
Same, life would've been easier

>>43814510
He can join us, just us two big boys helping you out, a higher, sexier being :)

>>43814676
none of the shit youre talking about actually matters in the world.
go outside dykeanon

>>43814698
You're already a man! Yippee!

>>43814683
do you know what abt it is why you have this fixation?

>>43814711
But it does
It shows the real face of trannies. Would I rather want an autistic woman around me and other women or some angry incel?

>>43814733
dont care
as i said, id rather be raped again than be a woman

>>43814698
I tried to be a normal gay boy, had wonderful masculine bf. just couldn't make it work. kms

>>43811750
Just shut the thread down everyone go home to their respective gens

>>43811750
well when there are subreddits like ftmspunished and ftms constantly say they don't need testosterone or dress like girls or constantly talk about yaoi and identify as fujos and fetishize gay men and cause detransitioning lawsuits idk it;s hard to take anything seriously

>>43814725
I think it's just because I think that male bodies are peak but also dream of a convenient hole that is solely for taking things. So maybe there is some internalized stuff about sexuality that I have to work through

>>43814896
well honestly good luck with your whole sexuality thing

>>43814818
>ftmspunished
thank you so much, they are many sexy boyginas being posted there

>>43815111
will you ever stop

>>43815125
he prolly wont, some people have such an odd fixation i really dont get why
genuinely someone explain

>>43814712
And? Knowing that doesn't fix my desire to look like a woman or take estrogen
besides, the opinions of bull dykes, are basically worthless. Not even lipsticks like you and normal women are scared of you

>>43812839
What's a "normal man"

t. cis man

>>43815308
So you admit its just a desire and not a reality? Lol
>the opinions of bull dykes, are basically worthless. Not even lipsticks like you
This is not the butch flag you dumb troon. Anyone can use it.
>normal women are scared of you
Hilarious projection..

>>43815590
A cis man

>>43811750
women be like monkey see monkey do. men have be women, so women have to feel same, to be equal. Lol stupid
hate ftm

>>43815590
A man you wouldn't really look twice at or assume is trans or queer or anything like that

>>43815620
"The labrys lesbian flag is a violet banner with a double-headed ax, a symbol of empowerment and feminism."
in other words, ugly bull dykes that have nothing going for them other than being women
>desire and not a reality
Anyone that's not delulu knows that. Its always been a intersex condition + mental disorder
>normal women are scared of you
>projection
pot meet kettle. I'm 5'5 and look the part. No one is scared of me

>>43817174
Nta but 5'5 male is still a male