Any one else here considering detransition? I'm 9 years HRT and thinking of it because I'm too malebrained to fit in with cis women and even other tranners
Please stop posting. No one cares
>>43815635Maybe you're just autistic? I feel you i dont really fit in with many ppl
>>43815635If you stop taking HRT after 9 years you won’t ever look like a normal guy. Just keep on taking it.I plan to perma boymode on HRT. I have autism and don’t socialize with anyone.
>>43815635What's there to detransition we all know you are going to keep taking hormones while not really being a woman to anybody else. You can't escape it.
>>43815635Me :( estrogen hasn't done anything in the 11 yrs that my levels where fine, so Ik ill end up aging out of passing anyway So detransing on my own terms might be better
>>43815688Idk, lifes not abt passing, you can still look cute and not pass
>>43815635If it's causing you that much distress to read into psyops like malebrained or fail to notice that most people regardless of being trans are vapid ego vampires that can barely fit in with each other, maybe detransitioning would be better for you.
The only cis women I care to fit in with are gay or bi or something anyway and they're mostly weird in 70% the same way as me anyway...
>>43815635>>43815650>I'm 9 years HRTWait is this not Anna? I think ive been conditioned to assume it is whenever I see a thread with a sanrio pic
>>43815702Yes but going from stealth to being visable trans is literally my worst dream,Id rather have a beard than be read as trans
>>43815737That sounds way worse girl what? I mean if anything the E keeps you looking as young as it posibly can
>>43815737I couldn't even be seen with another nonpassiod since someone might think I'm trans
i think it's funny as hell that detransition is the new trans social contagion.face reality: you are all gullible autists that fall for it. that needs to be dealt with at a level above all others firs
>>43815659yeah I am autistic, but even then, I don't fit in with autistic women, I guess I have an autistic tranny friend who I love very much, but even then, I feel way more manly than her spiritually >>43815660yeah idk what to do anymore, I don't think I can go back to being a man, especially since I started HRT at 16 and have had surgeries, I feel too spiritually masculine to even be a manmoder at this point>>43815711i have a few autistic straight cis women friends, but I feel more like an immature teenage boy around them instead of women of them>>43815726anna is a my melody girl, I'm a kuromihon>>43815777yeah I only trooned out because I got brainwashed into it by this board as a 13 year old if people here didn't fill my head with "John, 50" and sissy boomer hon horror stories I probably would've grown out of it and developed into a nerdy guy with a bad childhood, and then into a cozy wise old maninstead I thought that I was "chosen" to be a tranny so here I am, watching the fucking Sopranos in my pink pajamas in my empty house, wondering why I still don't feel like a real woman
>>43815901Tbh transing has taught me that i feel more like a secret 3rd thing than man or woman, maybe thats your path
>>43815920i fully believe "autismgendered" is a real thing
>>43815920i have to wonder if I'm just like pic related at this point i.e a confused man who thinks they can't possibly be a man because they're not an NPC(it's even worse for me because I'm as a MTF everyone expects me to act like some kind of smol bean/yasss qween bimbo/gentle motherly figure/pick me altgirl, which is even more restrictive than just being a moid)
>>43815635You're 9 years in? What have you done other than hormones? Have you just been manmoding this entire time have you completely transitioned fully? Socially, legally etc? If you havent done all that after practically a decade then I think thats personal failure on your part. Why did you want to do this if you were not willing to commit?
>>43815969Well it shouldnt be about other ppl. It didnt feel right to live fully as a woman but it didnt feel right to fully live as a man. In all honestly i think i just wanted to be pretty so i dont regret hrt
>>43816007socially transitionedlegally transitionedseveral surgeries (except SRS because I'm scared) >why do all of thisI'm a gullible retard so I felt like it was my purpose in life to deface my natural healthy body I also felt that I would eventually become a woman in mind and soul after a certain point+ I had to fight really really really hard to transition, like I had I steal money, skip meals, got kicked out of home, outed by my family, move across the country etc etc, I think going through all that struggle made me too scared to admit that I might have been wrong. >>43816014sameidkmaybe I'm just depressed atm, whenever I feel depressed I struggle to understand why I trooned out
>>43816101Sounds like you need a friend to cheer you up nona. If you went through all that effort it must mean something to you, i dont think it was for nothing
>>43815777>>43815901>>43815929It's because of the autism cognitive rigidity. It makes autists fall easier for transgenderism and its strict gendered stereotypings, because of the autistic black-and-white thinking and difficulty finding alternative solutions ("No men like or should like 'women's things', if I like 'women's things' I am or should be a woman")
>>43815635Why would people even want to detransition, it confuses us because we assume people only transition beCAUSE it's something they so viscerally NEED to do
>>43816101I agree with >>43816135You worked so damn hard and lived through and did some hard things to make this happen. What is this doubt? Do you look back at your old life and want what you had and would be happy? Or do all roads lead you back to where you are right now?
>>43816153honestly as op I don't even think i ever liked anything feminineif i cast my mind back as far as I can remember, I just remember sitting next to a pretty girl in my arts class when I was 11 or so and I really envied her beauty, then I started daydreaming about being about a woman, then I started playing girls in video games, and then I read about a tranny in the news for the first time and admired her, from that point onwards my fate was sealed.
you will single handedly make me hate sanrio, congratulations
I detransitioned too OP. It can feel like a huge setback and like you’ve wasted all your time and effort, but life goes on. I think in the end you can find deeper happiness and fulfillment being your birth sex. I’m married now and accepted by my family and my spouse’s. It’s hard to imagine having that if I hadn’t detransitioned.
>>43816171bc im not actually trans at all I just got confused and struggle to turn around due to sunk cost fallacy
>>43816228that girl was actually a witch who cursed you with the agp disease
>>43816228So the feminine "thing" you dig most is the female's natural features? But certainly you must like "feminine" things, otherwise you wouldn't have really embraced the "feminine world" as you did.
>>43815635You know, recent studies have shown the whole "1-2% regret rate!" trannies always talk about isn't the whole truth. Most long-term studies on life post-transition suffer from a significant portion of people just dropping out of the study and disappearing. From what we do know, regret tends to set in as late as 8-10 years post-transition if people do make it that far.
>>43816378I regretted it after only 6 months. But im still on e bc I’m really really retarded
>>43816402It's a kinda U shaped curve. Most people either quit very early on, or in that 8-10 range. And there's a lot of people like you who are retarded and just keep taking it despite not feeling like it's doing them any good. Humans, especially modern humans, are not particularly known for always doing what's best for their health.
>>43816201>old lifei never had it I became obsessed with my trans identity at 13 and started hrt at 16 what I think about is an alternative life where I just accept and embrace being a man, although it's so vague and abstract...>>43816336probably, I still wish I could look like (an adult version of) her to this very day, she was so pretty x___x>>43816348no I genuinely don't like anything that's femininecan you see why I'm thinking of detransing now? My interests are basically 100% male/autism brained
>>43815751E doesn't work on me lol, its why I wanna detrans
>>43815768Im not that worried yet, like I still pass while interacting w transphobes and transvestigators
>>43816736You won't find support for detransing from the retards here.I wish you well.
not taking E isn't that hard bro just quit
>>43816378do we even have any biographies or studies from trannies who have been on hrt for longer than 8 years?
>>43815635Did you make this thread to ragebait the less fortunate?If you throw your life away over having the "wrong" personality or interests I promise you that you will regret it more than anything. Once your body is destroyed it's repperhell forever, there's no going back. Hobbies or whatever other dumb nonsense you're worried about don't even fucking matter in comparison.>>43815901You take your life for granted because you never had to live the alternative. You escaped the most disgusting existence imaginable, you should be thanking God.
>>43816260>>43818624I believe that people like you who try to manipulate mentally vulnerable trannies into throwing away their potential end up in a lower level of hell than pedophiles and serial murderers
>>43815650I care.
>>43821031Fellas, is it evil and manipulative to wish someone well on their personal journey with their identity, and to provide an anecdote about their own lived experience?
>>43821540You are wishing ill and providing a lie.
>>43820960while I understand that this post probably seems very frustrating if you're a repper, you have to understand what it's like being a moidbrained MTF>cis men don't like you because you're a tranny>cis women don't like you because you're moidbrained>even trannies think you're kinda weird/problematic/creepy because you're moidbrained >chasers think you're cute at first but always grow to loathe you because they realise you're just an low-value creepy man hiding in the body of a tranny, especially when they see your gaming PC and spartan apartment >no natural sense of style because your idea of beauty comes from playing fucking stylised Japanese video games, just have to resign to copying boring FOTM outfits 1:1 without understanding why they look good >inability to tolerate being in cis women spaces because femininity just seems so vapid>not a loser? -> end up in majority cis male career because of natural masculine psychology (e.g. as a fucking engineer/investment banker/programmer) which ends up mentally masculinising you more>few friends I do end up making either treat me like token troon or try to fuck me and then ghost me because they're already in a relationship/gay panic (I can only make friends with cis male losers)>constantly reminded that I completely and utterly lack natural femininity every time I see a flamboyant gay man, let alone a cis woman (this really crushes me, I legit feel like crying over this ;_; it reminds me that I don't belong) >still scared of doing basic fucking stuff like wearing pink in public or getting french tips because these things will cause me lose social status amongst my misogynistic coworkers>cannot escape my masculine upbringing no matter how hard I try, memories of my dad forcing me to go to boxing gyms, tanning my ass with a belt, letting me play GTA from age 10, instructing me to fight other kids at school, taking me hunting, UFC watch party>no female relatives, mother ran away from home at 4 y/o
>>43821575How is it wishing to ill for the detransitioners in this thread to say "it worked for me, YMMV, hope it works out for you"You people are mentally ill to a degree that is tragic. I'm mtf as well, not a detransitioner, I'm happy with myself more or less. I just think that people should do whatever they feel is right for them without trying to project my own insecurity onto them. You're mad because the world wants to put you in the closet, so you build yourself a home in the closet of the idea that your identity is reflective of a true essence of you, rather than accepting that this too could pass, that one day you might wake up and find you don't want to be this person anymore. You're scared that you too might change again. There's nothing wrong with changing, in either direction. I wish you well.
>>43816101Well I’ll tell you this Anon There is no “what if”There is only what is
>>43816736> I became obsessed with my trans identity at 13 and started hrt at 16 what I think about is an alternative life where I just accept and embrace being a man, although it's so vague and abstract...For what it’s worth I didn’t start anything til 31 and I’m glad I learned all the stuff I did and earned the right to call myself a Real Man (TM) but I still wound up taking hrt anyways except I’t didn’t work nearly as well
>>43821633FeltThis is why I manmode 99% of the time
>>43821708sorry op i feel very tired and stupid atm, what do you mean?
>>43821795I mean there’s no going back to the life you would have had of you didn’t transition as a teenager and get disowned by your family and you how up to be an average cis man, that door is closed permanently. There is only the life you live in now and whether you detransition or stay the course, there is no backwards and down, there is only forwards and up <3
>>43821633I was not saying that it's dumb for her to be insecure about not fitting in, I was saying that it's dumb to consider self-destruction because you don't fit in. The fact that you can even care about ultimately trivial social issues like this says a lot. If your body truly becomes repulsive enough to yourself you won't desire to socialize with others at all, even when you lock yourself away from everyone you're still trapped with what you've become though.
>>43821679I've read thousands of lies on here, it's quite easy for me to tell when someone is shilling.>that one day you might wake up and find you don't want to be this person anymoreLMAOI wake up to that every single day.
>>43821872>I was not saying that it's dumb for her to be insecure about not fitting in, I was saying that it's dumb to consider self-destruction because you don't fit in. yeah you're right, there's no point in detransing at this point>The fact that you can even care about ultimately trivial social issues like this says a lot. If your body truly becomes repulsive enough to yourself you won't desire to socialize with others at all, even when you lock yourself away from everyone you're still trapped with what you've become though.well if you must know, I was literally perma indoors for 2021-2025, either full time WFH + no camera + no socialisation, and, then when I was laid off, 1 year of not speaking to anyone and not leaving my house except to exercise. I only socialise with people now because I have a client facing role at my company + I'm forced into my office/on business trips regularlyI dislike socialising with people because my personality is repulsive to myself, I lack the capacity to form deep bonds with others nowadays. And even in moments like these, where I'm just by myself in my room on the weekend, I still feel deeply distraught over how little I fit in with other women. >>43821860yeah you're right
>>43821897Your denial is your admission. Whatever you do with your life, I hope it's the right thing for you.
>>43821897you're very kind nona, I feel bad for making this thread now :/ sometimes I forget that honest people exist on this board
>>43815660thats nonsense though, you can just stop hrt and get a masectomy and itll be like you never trooned
>>43822176Not after ffs
>>43821929you do have some hikki cred I can at least respect thatif you still bothered to exercise and work that's a good sign you'll get better thoughI am definitely not in any position to give you advice on escaping, but staying indoors physically can just make being trapped with yourself feel worse. If you can find a place to be alone in nature without any other people around to look at you it can be peaceful. It won't fix anything tangible but it can let you relax a little bit from the constant stress. It's best when it's cold outside, but it can still be nice this time of year.
>>43822227thats cute, you can be a man with a womans face, peak aesthetics
>>43822063What denial? I think I pretty clearly acknowledged that what I did with my life was not right for me and that I regret it.>>43822114I am not a kind or good person, but this is the only place where I get to be honest.
>>43815969Petite edgy tomboy gf
>>43815901hey no offense but your entire thread comes off as bait, theres little tells throughout the OP that sound like a not-real-person whos trying to won the libs or whatever. this post of yours comes across as a little more authentic.>i was brainwashed by this boardyou should probably ask yourself why you found those messages convincing. i was here when i was 13 and i immediately realized that transition was considered bad and that you shouldn't do it if you can help it, if anything the brainworms here caused me to repress when i didn't need to and i get the impression this is the case for majority. maybe im older than you and the culture was different or something but its really not that different now either.>instead i thought that i was "chosen" to be a trannywhy? why would you be chosen? especially if you're supposedly male, spiritually? is this poltard bait that im missing or have you just been that groomed by them into second guessing yourself?
>>43815635The only thing that matters is if you're attractive I'm definitely more malebrained than you and I have a bf
>>43822485>le wholesome plebbitor NPC thinks everyone who disagrees with them is a falseflag troll fine, here's a picture of my obvious tranny hand, much offense intended you stupid fucking retard. >you should probably ask yourself why you found those messages convincing.can't you read you stupid fucking cunt? I was 13, I was unsure if I was trans or not (all I did was fantasise and daydream a lot about being turned into a woman), but I knew I wanted to be for some reason. There's never been a period in this board's history where saying that won't get you branded an "egg"then everyone told me that if I didn't troon out immediately I'd end up breaking down in my late 40s and turn into a benighted gigahon with zero hope>why? why would you be chosen?autistic retard can't handle metaphors moment when I say "chosen" I mean "I feel as if I was born with a rare neurological condition that meant that I was immutably trans and that by not transitioning and accepting my condition, I'd be repressing instead". I.E gender dysphoria. When I call myself spiritually male now, I mean that in spite of my gender dysphoria (which I don't even experience nowadays but maybe that's just because I'm depressed/sufficiently transitioned) I still think and behave like a typical man, just one that happens to be hiding in the body of a tranny. I work in a posh nerdy office, I'm literally more spiritually masculine than most of my male coworkers just based on how I'm a natural leader, a large social presence and a straight forward no-nonsense style. >>43822514i doubt you're malebrained than me
>>43822703i wanna suck your fingers theyre very pretty
>>43815635Wanting to fit in with normgroids is the dumbest reason to stop living for yourself.
>>43822780they're the fingers of a man soul programmer who uses vim to write offensive poetry
>>43815635The main question that matters is if you're pre or post op...
>>43822843i have no balls but I still have a (heavily shrunken) penor i'm too scared to get srs
>>43816260Lol post proof or mossad
>>43822834The fingers in that picture look pretty spiritually feminine to me. I don't know or care what vim is but men do not write poetry unless they're extremely faggy or Japanese.>>43822849Cute. Looks like you already made the decision for yourself then.
>>43822864vim is a text editing program for profoundly autistic retards, it's so autistic that it has nerd cred amongst linux users the poetry makes hp lovecraft look like a civil rights activist my nails were done by real women, I just paid for it and sat back while they did all the hard work
>>43822912That's cool, I am autistic about non-computer things so I just use windows notepad. There's no way you could hold up to my Anglo-Welsh GOAT. You're literally talking about getting your nails done, men don't do that. My mom pays southeast Asians to paint hers too I think that's normal unless you're poor.
bump :(
we all make poor decisions in life, nonnie. recognizing that it feels wrong to have made one is the first step.
>>43822703>i doubt you're malebrained than meYou've never turned a wrench in your life Name 2 malebrained hobbies you have besides programming I fix my own vehicles, I shoot better than you, I weld, I woodwork, I'm stronger than you, etcCan you even fight?
>>43815660>Desperately trying to drag other people down with me: The Postkill yourself asap
>>43827332men always making things into a contest
>>43827443no shit retard
>>43815901what's manly about you?