i tend to get pretty jealous of trans women. i hate that i have such a hard time making friends with a lot of them because my interests hardly line up with anyone on here or irl and even if im on hrt i still feel like im not allowed to enter trans spaces to make friends. it feels like high school again where trans women are all the popular kids and im the weird nerdy kid that everyone thinks is gay, a school shooter, or both. i never have this problem with men, like half the time ive been going out ive exchanged numbers with guys (so we can hang out, not be gay). dont even get me started on dating. it feels like 90% of people around me are t4t and even if theyre not ill still have the same problems i did finding and maintaining friends. granted im only going off my experience before i started hrt so maybe things have changed but i also kinda doubt it. once when crossdressing at a gay bar a girl came up to me, asked my pronouns, and when i said the male ones she promptly left so i feel like those stupid fucking pronouns do a lot of heavy lifting, even if youre on hrt. also doesnt help that even if i socially transitioned, i would pass but as a slightly chubby mid chick. how do i cope with this? how do i stop being jealous? what hope is there to me to find friends/love?
>>43815816its over man trannies hate moids unless you are a lumberjack with an iron cross tattoo
>>43815816Im also an autistic outlier tranner, i feel for you nona
>>43815816100% same experience as an autistic virgin boymodder. I have no friends and no socialization. I don't exist.
>>43815823this isnt even true its literally just because im a chudlite who, while is autistic, has completely different autistic niche interests from the general population.>>43815826not a nona (see the part where im male) but how so?>>43815839so sorry to hear
>>43815816There is no hope. The world is full of psychopaths and sadists who will ruin your life, friendships, and relationships just because they can. Do your best to find the small moments of happiness and brace yourself for the eventual slap in the face from the reality of this
>>43815849Its hard for me to make or meet tranner friends most of the time. It can be very cliquey even when they are autistic. Or the interests just dont line up like you said. So i mostly hang with my other friend that transed and my close male friends i knew before. I have cis f friends too but its not like deep friendships ya know
>>43815816none of this would be a problem if you socially transitioned, you even allude to it at the end of your post. you already know it's what you want to do
>>43815906it really isnt. i would die of embarrassment if one of my cis friends patronized me and called me a woman. i would die a thousand deaths of embarrassment every second im around my family. i still want to make guy centric jokes and call myself a guy for fun. im not about to go through voice training and force people to call me something different.>>43815886>cis f friendsdamn i cant even manage that, i kneel.
>>43815947I just make friends with them through my male friends... but i mean maybe you just wanna look like a girl maybe not live entirely the role of a woman? Thats kinda how i feel. But in that it almost seems like theres no role for me to take up. So trying to figure out my own
>>43815849it's true
>>43815947all your objections are about how you think others would perceive you and nothing to do with how you feel about your identity
>>43815816I kinda relate. My autistic interests are really niche and change rapidly. Maybe join a trans/queer discord related to your interests if you haven't.
>>43816017My identity is as a weird guy that looks *like* a girl and has boobs. I could never call myself a woman in full confidence.
>>43816062>discordno thanks! internet people arent real people, i need to meet people irl.
>>43815816This is why I personally try to stay away from trans specific spaces. Yeah it would be nice to relate to others with my own experiences but I would rather just present myself as the gender Im striving to be. I dont tell anyone or give any hint Im trans, I just say Im girl and people take it or leave it. Even when theres doubt, eventually it works. You might be better off presenting yourself like that and make friends that only know you as such.
>>43816078What are your specific interests? You could try to find clubs/organizations/events related to it in your local area.
>>43816097im in a club with people who share my interests only thing is i feel like i might get kicked out soon because last time i was at the bar we meet at i got extremely drunk and was saying some insane, horrible shit. no one was there but a couple regulars witnessed it so if they ever tell anyone in the club i feel like im gonna get kicked out.
