I injected 6 mg of Astrovials' een vial yesterday (second injection) subq and I feel like something is wrong.It's been almost 24 hours and my nipples are barely tender. I was on estradiol gel before and nipples were really tender. I know shit varies but I haven't been able to press against my nipples in a long time and now I can. Especially after 6 mg.The injection area hurts a little too whereas the previous one didnt hurt. I injected very close to the bellybutton and didn't know what I was doing.I DON'T LIKE WHAT IS HAPPENING What if the oil is contaminated? What if the estradiol is like expired? What if the oil can't be absorbed and sits in there forever?Fuck please say something
its over
>>43815825Stop overthinking it. You're fine
>>43815870You are not helping
>>43815825write your will nigga!!!!!!
>>43815878>>43815877
>>43815825I think you inject pcp not estradiol OP
>>43815877How's the injection site supposed to be feeling like 24 hours after? It's like a large patch under my skin hurts. Does this happen to everyone? Did I inject in the wrong skin layer or something?>>43815879You think a tranny like me has an estate to pass on? How generous
>>43815825>very close to the bellybuttonyou need 2+ inches distance from belly button supposedly
>>43815892You may not be injecting deep enough, but generally it’s a firm bubble in your fat layer
>>43815894Yes I did that yesterday but I feel like I injected blanksAnd my belly hurts now when I touch it
>>43815892>How's the injection site supposed to be feeling like 24 hours after?nothing to a sore, red bump
>>43815899A firm bubble? I don't feel any firm bubble. I used a 6 millimeter needle and pinched my skin. How the hell do I find I did it right?>>43815902I DONT HAVE A RED BUMPWHERE THE FUCK DID THE OIL GO
>>43815914>I DONT HAVE A RED BUMP>WHERE THE FUCK DID THE OIL GO>nothing
This is what my belly looks like LIKE NOTHING HAPPENED except for the entrance wound So did I bitch two injections in a row? Where the fuck is the oil?
>>43815914It literally leaves a firm thing of oil in your fat for weeks. The body slowly absorbs it. I can feel it at every injection site for like 2 weeks. I do EEn once a week rotating between 6 injection sites. It’s not a bubble in the sense of raised skin it’s just a firm round thing in my fat I feel.
>>43815952Is it supposed to get red? Mine isn't
>>43815946Absolutely disgusting belly button holy shit
>>43815959It only gets red if you inject too shallow. I get a light skin reaction in that case.
>>43815960stop bullying me
>>43815970Why don’t you fucking clean it, I can see shit inside of it lmao
>>43815967I got a light skin reaction too that faded after 30 minutes, I assume it was a skin reaction to the alcohol in the solution.I feel nothing hard or solid under my skin. So that means I botched it twice in a row?
>>43815991You may or may not feel the hard thing in your fat. Why don’t you test your T/E levels, or cum and see if it’s white or clear.
>>43815982Can we please focus? I feel NOTHING under my skin. So that means I fucked up? I injected 0.15 ml. There should be something.>>43816001Bc it's only my second week. Gotta wait longer
>>43816018What angle are you injecting at, how long is the needle?
>>43816024Perpendicular 6 millimeters Pinched skin
>>43815825>Hurts a littleUnless it's looks infected or it feels incredibly irritating it really isn't a problem. >Can't be absorbedThat's genuinely not going to happen, you need to worry less. SQ injections are by and far the ones that go into effect the slowest. Next time, you should inject further from the belly button though. Try to get a nice firm grab on some fat more lateral to your thigh.
>>43816034The needle is too short, you need 12mmI use 29g 0.5ML 12.7mm insulin needles
>>43816043Look at the photo I posted. Isn't that far enough?
>>43816057Wtf 12 mm is massive. It'll impale my belly skin. I'm very skinny and don't have much belly fat.The longest I can find is 8 mmI'll try shoving it deeper next time Fuck this is annoying
>>43816086If very skin you can inject at shallower anger like 45 degrees
>>43816058It's far enough, sure, but this anon is correct.>>43816057When I've given people subq heparin or insulin in the hospital, we use those type of needles because they're specifically meant for subq use. When I've given *myself* enoxaparin I also had to use a needle just around 12.6mm, mind you this refers to length not gauge. >>43816096This anon is right here, too, you can go with either angle depending on the length and whether it'll keep you safe or not. If you're super worried, talk to your provider.
>>43816096Well then I'll penetrate less as deep which is not the problem I'm having. Goddammit next time I'll just push it further down so I brute force the oil into a deeper height.>>43816117MY PROVIDER IS A FRENCH TRANNY WHO ACCEPTS BITCOIN I'll push it down further next time
It's just starting
>>43816158Define "it". It's my second injection. Should have felt something before.
>>43815825You likely developed a tolerance for it after using the gel. It's rare but it happens, your body no longer responds to the compound. Sorry nona, I wish there was better news I could tell you.
>>43816466You're joking right?
>>43816466Lmao what is this bs info
>>43816480Like I said, it's rare but it happens. Have you never seen the posts made by people who are on HRT for 5 years or more and have had minimal changes? Sometimes your body just doesn't respond to it. The human body is weird. There's an intersex condition where you're born with XY chromosomes but develop into a female phenotype with a vagina and everything because your body doesn't respond to androgens, for instance.
>>43816485>nb flagOpinion discarded. You aren't going to invalidate the experiences of trans women who suffer from estrogen insensitivity.
>>43816466>>43816509its true. this happened to me
>>43815825likely a difference in spiking levels.Gel is absorbed and "consumed" more quickly, leading to higher peaks and lower valleys.Een has a really long half life. That's part of what makes it good. However, that means it will take a little while for you to get to stable levels.I was on E Valerate for 6 months, but was made to do a 3 month break. I restarted 4 weeks ago and didnt feel tenderness in my breasts until this week.I understand its scary, but you'll need to do a few more injections until your levels stabilize. Then you'll feel tenderness.6mg Een will stabilize at around 200-250 p/mol iirc, with peaks approaching 280. Im on valerate every 6 days, and theoretically mine peaks at 500 and valleys at 250 once stable.TLDR give your body time to reach stable hormone levels. Gel was just fast acting. Like a plan B pill compared to ovaries.
>>43816610After I injected I got some red pimple-like formations that disappeared after 30 minutes. I'm worried THAT was the oil and I injected too shallow. Either that or some small quantity surfaced instead. Should this happen if the injection was fully into the fat?
>>43816144I do intramuscular in my thigh. I use a 1 inch needle and push in all the way lol. Sorry if it makes you cringe a bit, but i think youll be ok :)>>43816302Your levels are temporarily lower at the moment. After more injections they stabilize.
>>43816704I dont know from experience, but I havent heard of this side effect before nor is it something i've experienced. If it disappeared in 30 minutes its probably not something to worry about. Blood vessels maybe?
>>43816712I did 6 months of an injectable contraceptive intramuscular and IM is just messy. In comparison >>43816712Yes but before you raised the possibility I may be using the wrong needle. Plus no hard oil pocket under my skin. Shit just hurts to poke.My dumb tranny ass botched two subq injections.>>43816727I think it's a skin reaction to the alcohol in the solution. The oil surfaces a bit then gets washed way by the bloodstream.I think I should go deeper.
>>43816763Not the anon who told u about depth/needle length>IM is messyYeah it is. I usually bleed a bit and sometimes I hit some tough tissue and just wont push farther. But its easy.>skin reactionMaybe. Have you researched reactions to benzyl alcohol and benzyl benzoate?>deeperRegardless of SubQ or IM i have always seen it reccomended to insert the needle at full depth. For SubQ, this is at a 45 degree angle while the skin is pinched to inject the hormones in the intended layer.
>>43816144>>43816712I big up IM, I use a 1.5 inch needle and rarely have any pain after injecting compared to subq where there was a sore spot without fail, just be prepared for a little blood if you miss
>>43815825don't listen to any of the trolls telling you it's fine, go to the ER NOW.
>>43817045WDYM blood if you miss? I bleed every time I inject. Even when I think i go for the thickest part of my leg, sometimes I poke something tough and the needle doesnt want to move. Usually hurts a lot more. I notice it happens the most if my leg flinches and if I dont take a warm/hot shower before doing my shot
>>43817627Not who you're replying to, but I usually can find a spot where it's really easy, doesn't hurt almost at all, and doesn't bleed. But usually it takes me a few tries.
>>43816763I had an idea. Im >>43816910Maybe call your local planned parenthood or pharmacy and ask if they can give you advice? Im sure they wont mind. Just say you get your medicine from a different pharmacy but theyre closed today or something. No need to tell them you DIY if thats something that makes you nervous.
>>43817651A few tries in the same injection? Unless something extraordinary happens I just try to tough it out and assume it's all ending up in the same place.I have the least problems injecting further up my leg, but I dont want to poke the same spot over and over for scarring.
>>43817666Satan TripsAlso what do you look for in an "easy spot?" The bloody injections and sore tough spots give me needle anxiety. I didnt used to have it before. I have to do my shot first thing in the morning now otherwise I work myself up and out of doing it.
>>43817666Yeah, if it's hard to push in or hurts a lot then I try somewhere else on vastus lateralis injections site or another leg. Don't want to hit a vessel or a nerve, so if it doesn't feel right I try again (with new needle).
>>43817706>>43817666I dont try again or anything i just use my hand as a measure from my hip and eyeball where to inject, its like 50/50 if I draw blood, but I do make sure i stay sitting for a few mins after, the only time I change site is if I hit a nerve on the surface and its super painful going in
Sup chat op here I have concluded after some thinking that I may have given myself estrogen insensitivity due to rocketing levels of E (500+) while I was fucking around with scrotal estradiol spray 2 months agoI don't know how to proceed from hereI fried my e receptors to oblivion and I hate myselfThis explains my dead nipples
>>43820130no you haven't retard
>>43820166I fail to see a better explanation in your post Fried receptors fits
>>43820176the explanation is that een absorbs slowly compared to gel which enters the bloodstream instantly"fried receptors" is not a thing
>>43820186It can't be that slowMy nipples get tender at 40 fuckin estradiol If they aren't that means I'm below that How do you explain that huh
>>43820192it literally takes like a week for blood levels to max out on enanthate
>>43820208Those graphs are all made up
>>43820208Not to mention your pic says intramuscular
>>43820239subcutaneus absorbs even slower than intramuscular
>>43816086Nog we can see your belly
>>43820246I so want you to be right I hope I wake up tomorrow with tender nips Bye
>>43816034If you're doing subq isn't it supposed to be at an angle? Perpendicular is for IM
>>43815825you're gonna die
