i went to pride yesterday and i saw 5 agp lateshit gigarapehon moids and 5 is to many.all of them had a 5 oclock shadow and receding hairline and just generally looked incredibly hideous, one that i saw even had a full on stubble. not to mention the horrible fashion capabilities. was hard not to gag honestly.i just dont get how these people dont have any shame and dont even try. at least shave ffs. i put on makeup, made a fire fit, did my best girl voice, and before i went i double checked i didnt have any whiskers (i cant grow full facial hair, just a couple upper lip whiskers that show up sometimes that i pluck out when i see them).i get so much second hand embarrassment from these disgusting hons. these are the walking optics nukes that stop us from being seen as equals. just disgusting lowlife men in dresses. so fucking gross.
>>43816781>People who want to look a certain but are unfortunate and are ugly and masculine but don't cower in shame like meNigga who cares. Get over yourself you whiny faggot.
>>43816781you dont understand your own picrelyou are evil at heart, i just know that you are a larping twinkhon at BESTsorry that youre ugly and inside and out but are such a pussy that you project your worries about judgement onto others
>>43816781>i just dont get how these people dont have any shame and dont even try.let me explain it to you:being perceived as a gay man or a freak doesnt bother me. i dont consider a gay man or a freak (or whatever other boring insult you can come up with) to be a bad thing.if people perceive me as this, they are simply failing to know the real me. im fine with strangers thinking im ugly or whatever.>i get so much second hand embarrassment from these disgusting hons.if they aren't embarrassed and you are embarrassed, this is a you problem, not a them problem. you are letting your self hatred apply to other people.personally i think bpdpassoid youngshits who act like a stereotype of a tiktok zoomer bimbo nuke the optics for me- a whole and well-rounded person who doesn't let my gender define and box me- but i would never claim that you are doing something wrong by being that type of tranny. its your life and your body. same for me
>>43816781sybau twin
>>43817003Dont you have dysphoria over clearly looking like a man???
>>43816781large seething man hands wrote this.
>>43817022>Dont you have dysphoria over clearly looking like a man???yes and no? ive been transitioning for 10+ years and some of the things i have dysphoria over have gotten better, some havent. the simple answer is i've accepted that there isn't really one single "Looking Like A Man", and that men and women look all sorts of different ways.ive seen cis lesbians that look far, far more masculine than me. ive seen cis gay boys that look more fem than me. it doesn't bother me, because i am being me, with the aesthetic that feels right for me, loving the people that I am attracted to, and being a woman-thing in my own way that is different to anyone else's. like queer people have done for centuries
>>43817059Your mindset is comforting anonThat's all I have to say have a nice day
>>43817078thanks char, you too
>>43816781>>43817142
idk how they do it since im a beautiful twinkhon and im absolutely disgusted and ashamed of my looks every day and can barely go outside, so to me its unimaginable to have the bravery to look like that in public. ive been told im brave for having transitioned but im not. im fucking terrified of being perceived as a freak, even though im objectively gorgeous, simply because i dont pass perfectly all the time. its the rapehons who are either brave, or insane. i wish i had the inner peace of a rapehon
>>43816781picrel looks like Tommy Wiseau
Fine ill wear a hat tommarow
>>43817183>simply because i dont pass perfectly all the timewhy do you want to pass (i.e. be perceived as cis)?there are some options, choose one or more:>you think being cis is better than being trans>you think it would give you benefits (e.g. safety)>you have been convinced that it is the "goal" of transitioning by a culture of self-hating trans people>you think being perceived as a man (by even one person) makes you a manor maybe its another reason. if you figure this out then you may be able to understand and change your behaviour in public society.
I’m going to pride as a boymoder
Sometimes people are just big boned small hips 6 feet tall bald idk what you want from them they clearly didn’t ask for that let me be happy. I only dislike how these types hate or ostracize me from the queer community because I’m a passing straight tranny so they think I don’t have any struggles
>>43817276I’m a perma boymoder and no one can tell.
>>43817265passing IS the goal tho, and i havent been convinced of that by anyone. that was my own goal i knew i wanted when i started transitioning before i had ever interacted with another tranny in any way. the entire point of transitioning to me, was to look and sound like a woman. to have the body of a woman. what the fuck even is transitioning, if not the effort to become passable to get rid of dysphoria?i feel like hons that think like you are fundamentally something different from someone like me. like if one of us is a tranny, then the other is something else. i cannot imagine not wanting to pass.
>>43817328>was to look and sound like a woman. to have the body of a woman.but why are you so convinced that this has to mean looking and sounding like a CIS woman?>what the fuck even is transitioning, if not the effort to become passable to get rid of dysphoria?a series of social and bodily modifications to grow closer to a life which one prefers living.>i cannot imagine not wanting to pass.my life and my goals and my joy dont revolve around being perceived to be cis. the people i love understand that im a woman in my own way and thats more than enough.>i feel like hons that think like you are fundamentally something different from someone like meits the different between having your personhood defined by social norms and roles, versus having your social role and behaviours defined by your personhood. im the latter
>>43817328You’re totally right. I will never pass, I’m just a cis male on HRT mkay.
>>43817265>>you think being cis is better than being transabsolutely>you think it would give you benefits (e.g. safety)probably>you have been convinced that it is the "goal" of transitioning by a culture of self-hating trans peoplemaybe>you think being perceived as a man (by even one person) makes you a mannot really but being perceived as a man constantly by everybody makes it hard to be a self-made woman who doesnt need no external validation
>>43817414>not really but being perceived as a man constantly by everybody makes it hard to be a self-made woman who doesnt need no external validationdont you think i know that?it takes work, actual effort and introspection, to grow as a person and understand yourself. you cant just assume that social norms and perception strictly decide who you are and then expect to fit into one of those boxes and be happy. especially as a queer person. you need to actually think about how much of what you believe about yourself and about gender is externally imposed.
>>43817368>but why are you so convinced that this has to mean looking and sounding like a CIS woman?because it triggers my dysphoria to be clocked, because its a sign i dont really look like a woman. plus i find it humiliating, probably because of internalized transphobia. i just wanna be seen as a girl. but i am in the process of trying to accept that i probably look like a tranny and be able to live in peace with that
>>43817452>dont you think i know that?If you do know that it didn't come across>it takes work, actual effort and introspection, to grow as a person and understand yourself. you cant just assume that social norms and perception strictly decide who you are and then expect to fit into one of those boxes and be happy. especially as a queer person. you need to actually think about how much of what you believe about yourself and about gender is externally imposed.At the end of the day after a long shift at the introspection factory I still think it's better to be a cis woman or something like it
>>43817469>because it triggers my dysphoria to be clocked, because its a sign i dont really look like a womanno, its a sign that you dont look like a cis woman. which you arent. it is a sign that you look like a trans woman. which isnt a bad thing to look like. its good.
>>43817518i do find twinkhons attractive but i hate being one and wish i was a passoid
>>43817581im sorry to hear that and i hope you get better
I love being a twinkhon but people don't actually find twinkhons attractive outside of the internet
>>43817633>I love being a twinkhonbased>people don't actually find twinkhons attractive outside of the internetnot true lol i fuck a lot. i get a lot of people telling me im a hideous ogre (mostly other trannies, go figure) but i get far, far more telling me im beautiful and precious and amazing. different people like different things. you just need to give up on being Conventionally Attractive, that's the mind poison.
>>43817581do you watch what the robins do to worms? they torture them, for fun, as much as they can. i can't think of a worse life, than that of a worm's. i really try hard not to step on them
>>43816781You'd think pride is the one time and place of the year where it's okay for a hon to briefly go outside and pretend to have an accepting community but nope.
>>43817776self hating tranners see their insecurities in us hons, and instead of addressing them in their hearts, they decide that the hons are the problem somehow for just living our lives
The problem with hons is they represent our biggest insecurities and they wear them all like a badge of honor
>>43817854why is it a problem for you that i dont hate myself for the same reasons you hate yourself?why is it a problem that some people see the characteristics you dislike, as desirable and acceptable? how does it harm you?
>>43817776>>43817795as a self hating hon, hons should go outside as little as possible
>>43816781>gigarapehonWhy are y'all calling clocky tranners rapists??
>>43817368>but why are you so convinced that this has to mean looking and sounding like a CIS woman?because cis women ARE women. they are the original. a trans woman is just an imitation. the point is to look like a cis woman because thats what a woman looks like and what a woman is. trans women are not a different kind of woman, they are an imitation. and thats fine. because we can get pretty damn close. but at the end of the day it is an imitation and the point of an imitation is to get as close to the original as possible.
>>43817933>because cis women ARE women. they are the original. a trans woman is just an imitation.you are making this up. there is no reason for this to be the one meaning of "woman".
>>43817941>there is no reason for this to be the one meaning of "woman".because cis women came first, then trans women have been imitating them for thousands of years.
>>43818009>because cis women came firstprimacy fallacy. just because something came first doesnt mean similar things are fake or an improper/incomplete example of the thing. they are just different things.
>>43817941>there is no reason for this to be the one meaning of "woman"do tell us at least 5 other meanings of "woman"
>>43818054its a social category, it has as many meanings as there are people to perceive it
>>43818073typical non answerso pretty much any made up bullshit can be considered "woman"?
>>43818088yes, the same way any made up bullshit can be considered a man, or a doctor, or an artist, or a criminal. these are categories made by humans, not platonic ideals that exist in the universe. "woman" means what humans think it means, which means theres about a zillion different meanings depending on who you ask.
>>43818104so what's a "woman" according to you?
>>43818129i dunno man, im just one motherfucker. a woman is me (usually), but beyond that im not interested in sorting anyone else into hard and fast categories. i dont see the point. i am going to treat a person like a human whether they are a man or a woman or something else. its immaterial what label is used. so i am comfortable just saying "it's a social category that some humans are in, according to some humans"
>>43816781>goes to pride>gets angry at people having pride
>>43817933>the point of an imitation is to get as close to the original as possible.this is such a limited view of the use of imitation. do hunters imitate ducks and deer to "get as close to the original as possible"? (though i'm sure plenty of them would like to get bred to death by a buck)
>>43818178rapehons dont have anything to be proud about
>>43816781I mean, it's Pride, not the women's locker room. Can't fault them for being there.
>>43818203yes, hunters try to make their imitations of a duck's call as close to the original as possible?? what kind of question is that?
>>43818208what about my enormous brain, my awesome body, or my huge gock? im pretty proud of those
>>43818233>my awesome bodyif your a hon your body is not awesome. also your usage of the word gock is so agp it hurts
>>43818262>if your a hon your body is not awesome.ok tell that to all the people i fuck lmao>so agp it hurtsoh nooooo spooky scary trans woman who understands that she is sexually attractive. what a terrifying monster. im so hurt
I can be out like a couple times a year as myself
>>43816781One of those was me, and you literally can't stop me.
>>43818104>equating biological sex with mutable roles like "doctor"nah
>>43816781>these are the walking optics nukes that stop us from being seen as equalsI can rationalize a gay male's sexuality as just being who he is, and look past it.When it comes to transgenders, I just see them as mentally ill.I have to deal with both daily and I definitely respect transgenders less than I do gay males. If they "pass" I am at best neutral toward them.
>>43817633"Twinkhons" still just look like failed males.
>>43818104>"woman" / "man" is the same thing as "doctor" / "criminal" / "artist"what the actual fuck
>>43818208If nothing else I can be proud of surviving a world that is hostile to my existence for as long as I have but yeah
>>43818385>equating the (obviously) human-defined (i.e. socially constructed) category of sex with some immutable categoryno problem buddy, not all of us can understand the nature of objects and being. some people just have to live in a world of ideas and strictly defined concepts and black and white. its ok, maybe you will dip your toes into higher order thinking one day
>>43818341Picrel is the kind of thing which makes other people hate gayshit that much more. It displays the stereotyped obsession with defiling things.
>>43818405its not the same thing, silly. thats why we have different words for those things.it is the same *type* of thing, i.e., is it a category that humans form and place humans in.
what the fuck is with trans women and not knowing how to dress themselves. how do you bitches go outside looking like a freakshow without wanting to kill yourselves
>>43818448I never go outside without wanting to kill myself
>>43818448>how do you bitches go outside looking like a freakshow without wanting to kill yourselvesi simply do not give a shitwhy should i feel bad for looking like a freak?weirdos and freaks and uglies are humans too, as long as we're not hurting anyone i dont see anything wrong with it.i think it's you that has the problem
>>43816966Literally this
>>43816966OP is most likely a beautiful passing woman and she deserves to have her grievances heard
>>43819274passoid straighties are exactly the trannies who should not be heard out, especially when all theyre doing is being transphobic bullies
>>43819286No they are the ones who should be the face, body, and voice of this community. What they have to say may be hurtful but it comes from a place of beauty and natural superiority.
>>43819335>What they have to say may be hurtful but it comes from a place of beauty and natural superiority.im ashamed i even replied to this bait. what a fucking retard
>>43819346Shame is what you should be feeling if you are not a beautiful passing straight woman. I hope you can accept that someday as I have.
>>43816781you can make almost any song about doing anal with your dad just by changing the words
>>43818295>ok tell that to all the people i fuck lmaoim sure they are just as ugly
