t4t is supposed to be awesome... so why was it the most toxic relationship of my life?we met on a discord server. both mtf. thought it would be perfect! no explaining basics, shared dysphoria, etc. ended up being a competition over who was more dysphoric, who passed better, who had the worse childhood. she'd "accidentally" misgender me when she was mad. i'd weaponize my earlier transition start date. share your worst t4t horror story. make me feel less alone in this specific hell.
>>43816991one day. i'll write my entire story down. i'll learn to draw just so people can have a visual to understand what i've gone through. My story makes Metamorphosis (177013) look tame in comparison.
>>43817009What the fuck is your story??
>>43817009newtran here, what's metamorphosis (177013)?
>>43816991all afabs are evil. never date an afab.
>>43816991my girlfriend isn't giving me attention
>>43816991My gigapassoid youngshit ex who never fucking got misgendered ever in her life would constantly bitch to me about feeling clocky and I'm just like: >When's the last time you got called sir? >That's right, you can't remember, huh?>It happened to me a half-dozen times or more at work today.t. Demigirl Twinkhon
>>43817077Loser girl gets raped and mindbroken I think, I don't remember.
>>43816991met online but both turned out to run in similar social circlesimmediately started being overly sexual the first day we met when i insisted on just wanting to be friendslong story short we dated for a couple weeks but i was stuck with them as my only "friend" for a year while they sexually assaulted me multiple timesyes, ftms can be evil depraved weirdos
>>43816991she treated me like shit one time so I posted the story here as it was objectively funnyit got screenshotted and spread around and she threatened to kill me as well arguing in the comment section sharing way more details than I originally did
>>43816991The closest thing I've ever gotten to a t4t relationship was a fairly healthy rep4rep one that ended amicably, but my midshit furry mtf buddy has a horrible track record.>youngshit ftm who cheated on his gf with my friend while swearing up and down they had already broken up>much older (mid 30s) transbian who convinced her to spend a month in Australia with her, only to constantly screw around and abandon her for days at a time>SCORES of older trans men and women who used her in the rave scene
>>43816991raped by my mtf ex, never dating another trans woman again
>>43819643i dont think i could date a youngshit gigapassoid without wanting to kill myself, i wouldnt be able to take the constant mogging and reminder of what ill never be. maybe if they were an angel and somehow didnt just make me the man in the relationship. id rather date a cis woman atp because getting mogged that hard / treated that way by another tranny is even worse
>>43820621>flagmen can't be raped
dated a theyfab while i was still babytrans. one of the worst mistakes of my life.
I killed her..
>>43816991a ftm who asked me out on a date misgendered and blocked me everywhere when i said harry potter is shitty neolib propaganda for kids
>>43821954More like fakelib. Not T4T but I had a poser punk/goth guy in school threaten to punch me in the face for saying Interview With The Vampire was about two gay vampires.
>>43820589>being used by an older trans man at a rave0//0
>>43817077agp pornos that the less you know about the more of a woman you are
when i was 15 dated a 18 yr old poly transbian who flew out to fuck me but she also gave me my first vial of e so like i cant complain
>>43816991t4t is supposed to be a horror story but for me it's been awesome
>>43820701Happens all the time, dumbass
>>43821954Quite possibly the most cucked gigapoon thing one could do.
>>43819580this always holds true
i'm a loser that can't find t4t because i'm brown and ugly
>>43816991My t4t horror story was that I met a really cool trans woman online and became great friends for the better part of a decade at this point, and then we hung out and had a good time. It was terrifying.
>>43822449giwtwm
>>43816991>met on a discord serverhow can you think t4t is the problem here>hook up with grindr enby a week before they move away, brief ldr didn't work but we still talk all the time and are close>hook up with grindr ftm and have the best relationship of my life, mutual amicable breakup due to circumstances but we still talk all the time and are closethe horror...
>>43824803and also the most insulting thing anyone has ever done to me. imagine a guy who asked you out decided to choose harry potter over you. my ego never took a bigger hit before or since
this is an abridged version, too many details and it took a span of a few years>meet online in a shared space oriented about trans stuff>i basically just came out and am in the process of getting diy>she jokes about pre-ordering and shit like that>she's a bisexual bpdemon youngshit passoid (didn't know she's bpd until pretty late)>my inexperienced ass in relationships didn't see red flags because i didn't know what those look like>get encouraged to post myself into nsfw spaces, do sex work and what not by her, along with her wanting threesomes and always talking about such when the topic came up>get roped into all that because i thought its not too uncommon>she plans threesome here and there but everyone is too far away, so never realistic never pursued but get into situations where a guy is between us two wanting to fuck us>eventually break down and say im not comfortable>says its okay, but clearly unhappy about it>ffw some months later with ups and downs she develops a crush on a dude she met on a fucking video game, sells him pictures of herself cause i dismissed it as just taking advantage of a horny moid>shittalks me behind my back, sexts with him and it wasn't anything paid for she was just doing it cause she was developing feelings>reasoning according her is because nobody else would be able to physically fully dominate her so she wanted to pursue it>dude tells me at least, felt bad after realizing im not consenting to any of this>reasoning of hers for cheating is because im not a moid so i can't do what he'd do>plays on all my insecurities>break up for a bit>end up together again after apologies that i thought were genuine, etc etc>lasts a few months before she comes clean and doesn't think she did a bad thing, admits shes still got a crush, wants to reach out to the dude to apologize? for basically cheating>my suicide only got stopped by a family emergency>end up hospitalizedpt 2 soon
>>43816991Hiii. I dont want to deter anyone from st4t because I think its quite beautiful and poetic but heres my experience:>be me>youngshit mtf>get ftm boyfriend>hes a necrophile>blackmails me>can only get off by facefucking me while asleep>drugs me>chokes me till i pass out>tortures my genitals while i sleep>marks me with scars and piercings>finally break up>flips the script>leaks my underage nudes >boasts about my suicide attempt>I try to tell people but nobody belives me because "uwu a fraigile wombyn cant hurt an ugly moid">lose everything
>>43827866>break up for a few months, comes back into my life>seems like she finally acknowledges the massive fuckup she did>i get convinced enough to give it another chance despite what a ruin it already is>month in, it's like im actually treated right, feel good for the first time in what feels like years>things spiral down however over multiple months>get to a bad point again>im not pulling in my weight in sex apparently>end up at hers didn't know it would be my last>get shamed>get verbally broken down>feel like absolute shit>the day before i leave she puts her hands on me>not in the way i want>just go along with it because im too fucking broken to say no>do my best not to cry hysterically and silently let tears flow along my face while being pressed into a hug>get back home and get broken up afteri got raped and abused and all i got was this "fell for it again" award
>>43820686>>43819643What if she was just genuinely wormed? Zero empathy award yet again. Transbians are men.
>>43824790nah
>>43821434Why what happened
>>43827866holy shit most of this happened to me toolike verbatimi thought there was only one of her thats terrible im so sorry nona :( i empathize with u
every time i had friends i didnt know through her or tried to see my family she would relapse or try to kill herself. it was aparently my fault bc i didnt text her enough(while eating dinner st my grandma's who i hadnt seen in 2 years). i told her i might want to date ppl (w3 were poly and she was 31 dating a 21 year odl tboy). i ended up not but 6onths later she accused me of having unprotected sex with random people behind her back. it was reasonable for her to think this bc i said i might want to date someone
>>43816991t4t gets hyped up a lot, but it seems to make any issues with being trans twice as worse, rather than better>>43819643this is the struggle ive had with t4t, dating another trans woman while in a different place of transition than her is horrible. the last time i tried it, i ended up bpd'ing out over her saying she never got misgendered at all the moment she started girlmoding, meanwhile my passing in girlmoding at the time was shakey at very bestim post ffs and pass now, but i basically exclusively just date cis people. its not as hard to find a cis person whos supportive of trans people as people make it out to be
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>we met on a discord serverthere's your problemone time i, mistakenly, chose to live with a trans girl i met on a discord server in the house she owned. she primarily used discord to socialize online, but she also used reddit. she also identified as straight so i figured there would be no rape involved.boy was i wrong.she made sexual passes at me every day i lived there and she insisted on cuddling every night, if i didn't, she would have a meltdown about how she was ugly and how she wasn't a real woman. it was really frustrating and i wound up raising my voice once or twice, as well as making fun of her once with my friend who killed herself. when i had enough of it i told her i was moving into the city and she got really upset, demanding i leave immediately in what i guess was an attempt to use the last bit of leverage she had over me. i thought that would be the end of it but it wasn't, years later we had some friends in common and she tried to use them to stalk me and determine what parties i was going to, as well as endear her way into my friend circle. really creepy stuff.
>>43816991kept trying to get me to honmode at every turn (as early as a year and three months HRT when I absolutely didn't pass) gave me a really horrible eating disorder because (s)he liked femboys, used to micromanage my social circle, caffeine and caloric intake all while refusing to get on HRT xerself even after I offered to pay or move out of an abusive household which I also offered to pay forI work as a nurse and for fun one of my coworkers took my blood pressure and it was 54/97 from all the nosebleeds I was constantly having from all the fighting, it really was a total fucking nightmare
>>43820621this happened to me too actually so I really empathize. I don't think you should swear off all trans women though. trans women aren't the reason you got raped, you got raped because you dated an evil woman who happened to be trans
Jesus where do I start?he used to make plans with me, then ghost me when the time actually came and berate me for showing any semblance of disappointment or irritation. he pressured me into a polycule, then excluded me from activities with him and our other boyfriend and would embarrass and humiliate me in front of our other boyfriend until I finally left the polycule. Looking back I think he wanted to break up with me by the time the polycule thing came around, but didn't wanna be the bad guy so instead of just breaking up with me or even voting me out he just pushed me to my limit.
>>43827866>>43828021that's awful. im sorry you had to go through that
bump i need more reasons to become volcel
>>43816991t4t always seems absolutely insane from the outside looking in. My tranny friends are constantly bemoaning their 1-2 week long (max) relationships with different troons, they're usually poly too so it's like they get with like three new people and get dumped by like 3 more in the same timespan. There's always drama too with it, I just smile and nod and provide vague gestures of empathy because I'm autistic and dgaf. It borders on parody, my relationships when I was in middle school lasted longer than this. I'm very lucky to be c4t
>>43827967Can I have his contacts? I lowkey need him
>>43816991She couldnt contain her happyness whe i was literally kicked out og my house and said YIPPEE! Really loudly. Kept calling us lesbians alsoAnother tranny would say she was never nervous around me because 'i wasnt a pretty cis girl with huge knockers anyways, so whats there to be nervous about?' Im a ftm btwReally dont want to be an mtf hating terf but theyre just asking for it at this point. I have NEVER EVER met a decent non male brained transwoman that didnt just openly see ftms as an uglier easier to get version of a lesbian. Absolutely disgusting. Scrap male brained even cis males are better. Atleast they dont play pretend
>>43834277Your ex is super gross, I'm sorry you went through that, in hope you found better/will found better :/
>>43821954Both of you sound miserable to be around
>>43834277Can you not be an asshole toward trans women just because you've met shitty people?
>>43834376Have some sympathy with victims instead of moralfagging ??
>>43831674The only person I've met IRL who I originally spoke on discord with was a wonderful person and we're great friends. Discord people are not all bad.
>>43834380I do have sympathy for victims. What I don't have is tolerance for bigotry.>MoralfaggingAre you 12 or an evil psychopath
>>43834397Well it's understandable for victims to develop bigotry against the group which their oppressor belonged to, I'm not saying it's justified but being more focused on that rather than feeling sorry for him sucks>Are you 12 or an evil psychopathHow? What?
>>43834216Hes gayden now.
>>43827967>>hes a necrophile>>can only get off by facefucking me while asleepOh my god is that why this necrophile assaulted me in my sleep?
>>43816991>men always turning everything into a competition
>>43828071Fucking trvke
>>43834386nowadays everyone uses discord, i have another friend i met via discord that is quite delightful to be around even though she is very troubled. my point is just that the bar is quite low and you shouldn't make dramatic life decisions with or have high expectations of people you just meet on discord. it's like going on grindr to find a long-term partner.
>>43834762>Go into literally any thread where something bad happened to someone >this nigga is in it >"omg me too"
>>43835066I swear I don't larp, I even posted a greentext about this specific event several months ago
>>43835066>>43835077>posted a greentext about this specific eventHere it is : https://archiveofsins.com/lgbt/thread/40581856/
>>43827866>sells him pictures of herself cause i dismissed it as just taking advantage of a horny moidyou were ok with this? “hahahha she’s just taking advantage of an amab” nigga she was doing the same shit to you
>>43816991>why was it the most toxic relationship of my life?mental illness x mental illness relationshipsmany such cases, not just trans(i don't even mean to condemn, i couldn't imagine myself with someone who's completely mentally healthy, but have to keep in mind that it does come with problems)
>>43835377there's a lot I didn't cover, but it's very similar to when there's a domestic and cops have to get involved, it never goes well and even the victim of the abuse can defend the abuser funnily enough i also had a friend of mine basically roped into a shit relationship of a similar level and even me describing my previous relationship to her didn't make her break uponce you're long enough into something like that and have been conditioned to think you wouldn't find anyone else, verbal abuse, physical abuse, all that, logic isn't something on your mind and neither was it on mine so when she asked if she can sell pics of herself in a bra and panties i agreed because it meant i didn't have to spend extra time at work and could spend it with her>>43829951shit the reason why i still keep my chin up is because i know people like me are out there and i hope to tell em that not everything is always over after something like thiseventually it gets better, im in a way better place, have my peace, and also someone that actually respects boundaries and isn't just driven by pure sex, t4t can work and be a strong bond but make sure your other half is the one you can see 10 years from now on laying on a sofa next to you while you both do different things but are still happy with each otherim speaking some basic truths but just please don't ever get into a t4t relationship that starts on with sex as the foundation of it because it will get rocky when you eventually aren't up for it (at least with the wrong person it will, and if you build it on sex, trust me it will get rocky)
>>43827059That's not even a dodged bullet. That's a dodged nuke.
