Depends like you can tell the difference when they’re being nice or being nice

I love trans women!

I'm biased because I love tranners but I will say the more effort they put into passing the happier I am to hang out. but if I'm just encountering a visibly trans woman in the street I am usually not thinking about it beyond "oh she's trans"

>>43826507
Cis women fucking hate trans women, they're gatekeeping their sex as hard as they can. They don't want any dirty moid to join their sex

>>43826507
I love trans women also, I feel safer being around lgbt folks in general.
>>43826877
>if I'm just encountering a visibly trans woman in the street I am usually not thinking about it beyond "oh she's trans"
Basically this, though. How I feel is either :] or "oh cool she's trans" depending on if friends or strangers on the street or something.

>>43826884
speak for yourself I am happy to welcome trans women into the fold as long as they are kind and trying their best

>>43826877
Be nicer to the hons. A lot of them still put in effort or don't have the means or privilege. I spent a majority of my time rotting and that seems to be okay and even fetishized for those who have a womb. Am I envious of that dichotomy of sexism and double standards? Maybe. It's more of an observation.

>>43826942
That's because you're an /lgbt/ user, you're not a normal cis woman

>>43827001
I am not saying I am unkind to hons and I am also not conflating 'effort' with 'passing'. sometimes you can tell a woman is doing the best her can even if she isn't there yet and it is the effort I respect

>>43827011
that may be so but the vast majority of cis women in my life are not /lgbt/ users and they are not any weirder about trans women than I am. we all just hang out normal style. then again I live in a large progressive city so maybe my experience skewed

>>43827011
A lot of so called normal cis women are indifferent even if they hold a mildly transphobic view. Of course TERFs exist but it's most cisgendered men who care more since it's an affront to their social conditioning and projections of often fake masculinity.

>>43826877
> but I will say the more effort they put into passing the happier I am to hang out
Don't feel bad for this this is exactly how I feel as a trans woman and incidentally why I often don't like hanging out at events for trans women

I think they are ugly, weird, creepy and usually autistic. Don't feel safe around them in real life.

How to be unhated?
It's the a level of clockiness required to where you need to register them as trans or otherwise treat with the same contempt as a cis afab stranger

>>43827055
>even if they hold a mildly transphobic view
Exactly, they don't want trans women to be women socially
>it's most cisgendered men who care more
No doubt, they're the biggest cucks of all

>>43827026
Can you though? This isn't a personal attack. Is an unconventionally attractive cis woman who is stressed from life and manages to drag some mascara across her sunken eyelids, somewhat style her messy hair, and tosses on whatever she can find more valid than a trans woman in the same position? I suppose it's all a matter of perspective

>>43827055
Who compels men to act all aggressive around trannies to "protect women and gurls!!"?

>>43827095
Not exactly. A lot of those times those views are based in religion or the lie of a natural order and less about social aspects

>>43827108
it's cuz they want to be female too and they're mad that someone's becoming female and that it's not them

>>43827161
for a lot of crossdressers i've met, it's less about being a woman and using it to vicariously achieve the fantasy. most of them tend to have some form of a rape fetish or sexism and they're using themselves as that canvas since they know treating others that way is met with punishment be it social or legal

>>43826507
im pretty good at reading people and most of the times can tell if theyre legitimately being nice or pretending.
im visibly trans or at least read as effeminate male with tits, and cis women treat me very well, but they definitely single me out. they basically act like im a special kind of woman and are overtly careful not to upset me (until they realize im not sensitive at all and start engaging in friendly banter), but they seem to genuinely enjoy my company as they grow used to me (such as in a work setting).
there is of course an age and class divide, poor women tend more to look at me weird and young ones don't seem to care much about my presence but older middle class+ women adore me and shower me in praise.

>>43826838
I can think of many, many counterexamples to your claim of unilateral love, where you would instead be seeking an exit asap in the company of a transwoman

>>43827108
>who does this to them?? (and not condition them to love me!!?

HhhhhUUUhhhhhhhHmmmmmm

Oh. Right.
Everyone. Everyone conditions males to simp for females/women, especially right before puberty.
After puberty, it's even easier.
Now, women hold sexual power over the men and they dare not lose potential romantic partners over spurning a woman.

>>43827108
its the billions of dollars spent in christcuck propaganda

>>43827598
A lot of women, especially the younger ones, are falling for the same psyop that men are just simping for them. Sometimes people just like others because of similar hobbies and interests.

>>43827098
with all due respect because I can tell you have strong feelings about this, I didn't say all that stuff about cis women who are visibly going through it being more valid than trans women who are visibly going through it, you did

>>43827921
Not the person you're responding to but it was a yes or no question that you avoided

>>43827069
Perhaps you know the ones who are the most repressed about their emotions. Have you known homosexual transgender women? They are very similar to feminine gay men.