Titles says it all, I'm barely twenty and been on estrogen for the past few months because it makes me feel better, the thing is that I'm gay gay so being a women and technically straight feels off.I always saw myself getting with some hot latino man as gay guys but I can't fucking stand looking like a man, it's been this way before I was even online (around when puberty started) so idk what the fuck I am, I know labels are meant to be bullshit but how do can you still want to be a man while loving what estrogen is doing? I don't want to be some weird ass cringey fuck with a fucked up gender identity, I wanna look like a women, sound like one while also being a boy, I can't stand the thought of me growing into an older man either or going on hrt too late which is even why I started at nineteen.God what the hell is wrong with me, why couldn't I just be a fem gay guy and accept it? I hate myself.
>>43836761if you can smoke cigarettes you can go and get hormones do whatever you want
gay men should all stop taking estrogen; doing so worsens homophobia and life for all gay men by treating gay men as predators who have to be castrated to not disturb societyrip alan turing
>>43836761If you don't grow big booba (unlikely without prog) and don't transition socially, then I don't think a lot of people would care that much.Though it sounds like you've actually got gender dysphoria that's stronger than for typical HRT femboys (like you want to voice train and stuff?), so it's probably something you should resolve.
>>43836761sounds to me like you want the fountain of youth
>>43836789What are you talking about, we take estradiol because we want to, not because we're forced to and we don't want others to be forced to get on HRT (most of us I guess, there's always bound to be some schizos, especially on 4chan, but still).
>>43836777Thanks, it's just idk wtf is wrong with me>>43836800I think the boobs is gonna be a problem desu since all the women in my family tends to have big chests, I know deep down it'll be something that I'll either need to start wearing tape or bras for and if ir grows too much eventually a reductionBut yeah I guess I do have some dysphoria, been like this for a long time and I don't know if there's something deeper that I'm just not acknowledging, like I want to be a gay guy but being a women in all but name just seem better, the estrogen have made me more happier than I ever been but I don't know or even want to be a tranny, I even tried to detransition for a month but went back on it because I started feeling like shit again>>43836839Don't we all? Just seem better to grow into an old women over an old man
>>43836883you are pressured into taking estrogen because society hates gay men and views estrogen as a sexual punishment and a humiliation it's clearly not ok to be gay, if you have to be castrated to sleep with the same sex...
>>43836761technically you can do whatever you wantfunctionally if you become phenotypically a woman no gay man is going to want you, so its kind of hard to see how you're a "gay man" if no gay men are attracted to you because you have the body of a MTF tranny using quirky pronounsrealistically if you cant function without transitioning via hormone therapy you should probably consider the fact that you are by definition a MTF tranny and accept it so you dont fuck your transition up by going on and off hormones all the time out of repression
>>43836924SHUT THE FUCK UP
>>43836924>you are pressured into taking estrogen because society hates gay menNo? I don't give a shit about what the normies think.>and views estrogen as a sexual punishment and a humiliation ???What?! Who thinks that? You just came up with it.
>>43836952Thanks yakub, you're prob right on me fucking up the hrt since I did already went off it for a month, it's just I still see myself or at least want to be a gay guy you know? I know this is something actual gay guys wouldn't like so realistically it'll prob be bi guys I go after, I think it's my own self loathing that's making this so weird to me, god this is so confusing>>43836924bitch what the hell are you on about? Gay men are more socially acceptable than trannies, if anything it's frowned upon for anyone to take hrt over just being a fag
