so we know that gender dysphoria is when ur born male but believe yourself to be a woman on the inside but what does it mean if you’re born male, feel like a man, act like a man, see yourself as a man on the inside, but just for some inexplicable reason wish you didn’t? Like what does it mean if you only want to want to be a woman
gender dysphoria is just people expressing internalized sexism - they think men and women can only look or act in certain ways, and they get intrusive thoughts because they fear they are breaking unspoken gender rules
>>43839574ok but what does it mean if I’m not breaking gender rules but I wish I wanted to
>>43839564>what does it mean if you only want to want to be a womanis it bad to say you dont need gender dysphoria to be trans? ur just explaining gender incongruence which is what the ICD-11 uses to help medical professionals understand a person being "trans." gender dysphoria is the psychological stress of that incongruence, which hypothetically you dont need
What if im just a man but want to look like a women?
>>43839603I don’t want to transition tho, hormones would give me reverse dysphoria and the mere idea of acting or dressing feminine makes me cringe. For some reason I just wish I wasn’t like this
>>43839632i guess its a question of, do you want to be a woman more than you want to be a man? similarly, do you want to still be a man, or do you want to have aspects that women tend to have, but still be a man?
>>43839592castrating yourself is the exact opposite of breaking gender rules, it's enforcing them as strictly as possible>>43839626men cannot look like women
>>43839688I don’t want to be a woman, I want to be a man. I just wish I wanted to be a woman
>>43839724im a cis male im not doing anything to my body
>>43839749gender ideology = transvestite ≠ transsexual
>I want to be a man. I just wish I wanted to be a womanisnt this contradictory?
>>43839768I think what I mean is that I have inner thoughts that encourage me to be more masculine and tells me that male behavior and aesthetics are superior and I just wish I didn’t have these thoughts
>>43839564I was like this. What got me to take the pink pill was noticing my testosterone cycles and realizing i always felt way worse when thinks would cause it to peak
>>43839742I used to be like you and say all this shit you've been saying in this thread. I started trooning out recently. Better to start sooner than later.
>>43839810what if u just had hormone imbalance, you could of taken T to have more stable levels
>>43839824I don’t see how that would help, being around women makes me cringe I can’t imagine associating with them. And the only trannies I relate to are the ones that never go outside which is ideally something I’d like to do in the future
>>43839854You can be a woman and be friends with men or weird trannies. Consider your own subjective comfort detached from social interactions. Why do you wish you wish you were a woman?
>>43840016my mom has zero male friendsmy dad has zero female friendsmy sister is the same way, except she was one gay male friend who married a woman and is obviously fruity most people are total slaves to gender roles and will never question why my mom had a single male friend when I was 6, and she took me to meet him at his apartment, I remember thinking he was nice, I wonder if she was boning him or he was gay, anyways he found a new gf who told him he couldn't have female friends and I never saw him again
>>43840031>I had this experience>Therefore, nothing else is possible
>>43839564“Gender Dysphoria” is a fictitious mental illness invented by cissexist doctors in the ’70s in order to pathologize transsexuality and restrict access to sex change procedures.>>43839574>>43839724It will never be the case that all trans people hold the beliefs or do the behaviours that you arbitrarily assign to them, no matter how many times you insist otherwise.
>>43840083How could it be fake? What else do you call the dissatisfaction with your birth gender? The word "dysphoria" doesn't indicate anything about whether the origin of that dysphoria is pathological.
>>43840211>What else do you call the dissatisfaction with your birth gender? internalized homophobiagay people are treated like criminals and retards because they are not attracted to the sex their birth gender is supposed to like, and they like the wrong bodies for their physical body type
>>43840233Wasn't asking you and I'm not interested in yet another dime a dozen /lgbt/ theory of everything
>>43840255diamond dozen*
>>43839592Maybe you want status. Are you successful and pursued romantically? Do you think you would be if you were a woman?
>>43839564>Like what does it mean if you only want to want to be a womanNothing other than you only want to be a woman. Aggressive Gender idpol has complicated everything unnecessarily.
>>43839564it means internalized misandry>>43840031>most people are total slaves to gender roles and will never question whyfucking trvke, people want to act so progressive until its a heterosexual person breaking gender norms
>>43839564It means you want to be a woman. Why do you want to be a woman?
>>43840373>it means internalized misandry
>>43840211What do you mean by “gender”?
>>43840016>Consider your own subjective comfort detached from social interactionsthat only makes sense if you have no social life at all which is basically what I have now but I would like to fix that in the future. And I don’t wish I were a woman, I guess i just feel id be happier if I did want to be a woman.>>43840287I do wish I were prettier but I don’t think being a woman would improve that im very much genetically ugly