Which hand do you have? I am AGP repper and I have the "female" one.
>>43877744im faketrans twinkhon and have the female
>>43877744male. do i have to start topping?
>>43877744My pointer finger is longer than the ring
>>43877758Is it really faketrans then?>>43877772Do you have any desire to do so?
>>43877744I'm an AGP bisexual transbian, I'm a girlmoder and I have the female digit ratio tehee :3
>>43877802actually kinda yeah
>>43877802in so far as i catch myself referring to myself as he, relating to male characters, yeah :(i dont soulpass
>>43877812then do it :D
But what does my toe length mean?
One hand is ‘male’, the other is ‘female’ with a noticeably longer index finger
>>43877825on it boss!
>>43877806Has transition worked out well for you?
>>43877744Note that the female average is something like 0.97 2D:4D and you measure from the crease for accurate measurements, since the palm shape can distort finger length. Also note that it can differ from hand to hand.
>>43877744i'm a youngshit and mine are exactly equal, both 72mm. time to go nonbinary i think
>>43877744i hate it i have the uber male 2d:4d
>>43877892That's on the higher end of cisf ranges
>>43877954so what do i win
>>43877848Yeah, being a woman makes me happy. I've been on HRT for well over a decade, getting close to 15 years. I used to be HSTS btw when I was 18.
>>43877971a fell for it again award
Not flex from the earlier thread, but my 2D 4D ratio is 1.05
>>43877744moid. HOWEVER and this isn't me coping, according to Powers prenatal estrogen causes malebrain so i'm actually trutrans and not just a gay guy who transitioned because he couldn't get dick
>>43877976>used to be HSTSWhat
>>43877994How does having prenatal estrogen cause male brain? Cis women have higher prenatal estrogen.
>>43877744It's just a meme, it doesn't mean anything. I also have the "female" one and I'm the most malebrained agp repper alive.
>>43878004idk ask the guy who's been discredited as a hack even though i personally love him and take his every word as gospel
>>43878004https://www.reddit.com/r/DrWillPowers/comments/1lk65k0/comment/mzruhxs
>>43878004Estrogen is apparently needed for finishing brain masculinization. It's weird. Also note that finger digit ratio is weird and changes with age a little. I remember having a 1+ finger digit ratio near the start of puberty (thanks TF2 Pyro video for having me measure and giving me a crisis because I "totally wasn't gay") and now I have a 0.98 ratio.
>>43878023Damn, you were faster. That theory is such a mind fuck, but I tend to believe it anyway. It sucks being somewhere in the middle between man and woman.
>>43878000Your sexuality is quite fluid and can change over time but I was just coping, I think all HSTS are just coping. I'm bisexual. There's your identity, what you actually are, and hormonal fluctuations.
>>43878048i choose to believe it because it establishes a pretty good "we were born this way" base for arguing the validity of our existence, at least compared to everything else i've heard
>>43878059My sexuality seems stable.
>>43878059anyone who self identifies as hsts tends to be coping in some way i agree. usually either1) doesn't want to admit gynephilia for the sake of not being grouped in with the worst trans women2) coping with a failed/difficult transition by asserting moral superiority over agps i was and still sort of am part of group 2 but i'm working on it i promise
>>43877744>ah shit I don't fingerpass
>>43878080I get that, it could be consistent for most people, for me it's kind of malleable and I could see being more attracted to certain things when hormonal. I keep trying to call myself les but it doesn't work out that way when I'm horny sometimes. I'm a coping bishit lol.
>>43878082yeah, appreciate the perspective. I was insecure when I was younger for sure. There's nothing wrong with transbians in my opinion. Some people are just really poor and that causes their dysfunction. There's absolutely nothing wrong with 2 trans women dating, or a trans woman dating a cis woman, it's just that the ugly ones are more noticeable than the pretty ones.
>>43877744my index finger is longer than my ring finger on both hands, but my hands are gross and mannish
>>43877744I have the female one. How rare is it?
>>43878105I am mostly autosexual. I could date a woman as a proxy for a woman I want to be. I could be with anyone if they desired me as a woman. As a man I have no drive to pursue anyone. It's such a mess.
>>43878128Idk my ratio is 1.05 which is rare I guess too?
both my my ring fingers are longer by a couple millimeters
>>43878128Not rare for trans women and gay men. >>43878141This one is really rare though even among cis women. You're measuring from the crease, right?
>>43878023Ray peat: estrogen is a stress hormone.
>>43878175Yes, I even showed pictures of the measurements other anons saw it.
>>43878203this sounds like bullshit but i had severe anxiety before and during puberty and also CDGP, however that was diagnosed before
My hand is still like 9 inches from palm to fingertips so yah
>>43878275yours are almost identical it seems, maybe leaning towards the male ratio by 2 or 3 milimeters
>>438782754d looks longer than 2d, it's just the angle your fingers are pointing at. Yo can see the cress for 4d is much lower than 2d.
>>43878308They look roughly equal to me, which is still the feminine range. Remember, female average is 0.97, not 1:1.
>>43878275i think moles on the palm look cute :)
>>43878275
you all have moid hands
>>43877744Left hand has male 4D:2D and right is female, 2D is like an eighth inch longer on the right
>>43878275>>43878337if people are handposting now i'll gladly take the opportunity to attentionwhore
>>43878347I don't think so
>>43878175NTA but I consistently estimate around 1.06 (from the crease, from photos so consider the hazard fraught nature of that)I don't own calipers.>>43878203Ray Peat overdosed on the idiot hormone, but early puberty may well be a consequence of overnutrition.
>>43878359I think so
>>43878059>There's your identity, what you actually are, and hormonal fluctuationsbro reinvented the superego, ego, and id but with blanchard typology, my mind is blown>>43878203more like actual stress hormones, like cortisol, act as anti-androgens. don’t smoke cigarettes without an estrogen patch, it won’t actually make your body produce more estrogen
>>43878365
>>43877744i'm a 6'5" male with female digit ratio and have AAP and love to fuck myself up the ass with giant dildos but do not relate to anything feminine at all
>>43878331<3>>43878337looks like the same as mine but shorter fingers
>>43878393Well my hand is really small. See >>43878377
>>43878375smoking and drinking suppresses estrogen. weed has been found to increase testosterone levels. can't have anything fun :(
>>43878402Drinking inhibits the liver enzyme the breaks down estrogen
>>43878402Tobacco and nicotine increases testosterone, weed lowers it.
>>43878415depends on how you get the nicotine. if you smoke cigarettes, as I assume most people do, the smoking acts antagonistically on both estrogen and androgens, leaving you with brittle bones. meanwhile, gum and zyn just increase blood flow, which I could see being conducive to higher t levelsidk bout weed thobeit I assume it’s similar
>>43878405>>43878415>>43878501guess I'm dumb
>>43877744a little bit maleI'm cis on hrt, being a man really wasn't for me
>>43878355beautiful hands i'm so envious
>>43878558you’re not wrong, but the main differentiating factor is the stress hormones. the more physical harm something is doing to your body, generally, the more it disrupts regular hormone production, as opposed to raising or lowering specific hormones
>>43877744I'm a faketrans heighthon rogd autogynephile who randomly got internet induced dysphoria at 17 and is trooning out despite knowing it's fake and i have the male one.
>>43878721same but I have the female one. it's not gonna be 100% consistent
>>43877744perfectly equal on both hands
bump
>>43877744I was born male, look 100% male, have never taken hrt and have a “female” digit ratio In other words it doesn’t mean anything
my left hand is bigger than the right wtf
>>43877744theyre even on my right hand and my pointer is longer on the left handwhst does this mean
