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transmisogyny is just misandry
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wrong
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>>43885881
name a single instance ever of a trans woman being criticized for his feminine features
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>>43885894
There are countless instances of trans women having their feminine features ignored or outright denied. Tons of transphobes will see a beautiful passing trans woman and say "nah thats a man look at those huge male features" and it's some dainty twinkhon that's put so much effort in she has more feminine presentation than most actual cis women. That is an example of transmisogyny. They're so shattered they'll even say the same about cis women if you present them a photo of one and claim they're trans. How would THAT be misandry?
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>>43885989
>ignored
>denied
not the same thing as them going "ew you have wide hips that's disgusting"
cuz they don't think that
misogyny isn't real
only men are hated
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I love it.
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poop is pee
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>>43885894
but no woman gets criticized for being too feminine you disingenuous moron. men get criticized for being too feminine because it's seen as worse to be a woman
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Misandry doesn’t exist and transmisogyny does exist, so transmisogyny cannot be nor can it ever be misandry, under patriarchy
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What is transmisogyny? It is trannies hating women?
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>>43886062
well yeah misogyny isn't real, that's my point

>>43886074
supposedly, it means hating trans women because you hate women and hate trans women for being women
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>>43886082
>"men get criticized for being too feminine because it's seen as worse to be a woman"
>"well yeah misogyny isn't real"
??? the treatment gnc amabs receive from their cishet peers is literally (in the most literal way) a shadow of how those cishet amabs feel about women. if i can convince someone as stupid as you, does that mean i'm greater than god?
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>>43886074
it is bigotry against transfems which is much worse than the transphobia transmascs/nonbinary people experience
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>>43886074
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transmisogyny
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>>43886098
they are criticizing men for stepping outside the boundaries of allowed maleness, they are not criticizing women or femininity
they do not see you or process you as women, and thus are not criticizing you on that basis
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>>43886098
nta but i dont think that's the case, gnc men get hate from other men because they act feminine which they don't deserve to because they're not female
that being said I do think misogyny exists lol
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>>43886115
>they are not criticizing women or femininity
no, not in this context, obviously. but they do do that. they do do that all the time. have you ever talked to a group of cishet men? they say things like "women are gay niggers"
>gnc men get hate from other men because they act feminine which they don't deserve to because they're not female
strong projection vibes and i also doubt the amount of grass you've touched
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>>43886115
>they do not see you or process you as women, and thus are not criticizing you on that basis
Aren't they criticized for stepping outside the boundaries of allowed femaleness?
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>>43886144
no because they are not seen as female or grouped as such
they are seen as males intruding upon female socialization and customs with loud banging noises
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>>43885873
Calling the bigotry they face misandry makes trans women dysphoric because it reminds them they will never be women. What do you do about that?
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>>43886156
>they are seen as males intruding upon female socialization and customs with loud banging noises
this is just, so fantastical. have you ever left your room?
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>>43886142
>strong projection vibes and i also doubt the amount of grass you've touched
good argument, not even sure how this projection applies here
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>>43886163
Retarded nigger>>43886163
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>>43886156
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/4Wvltcu-wLk
An example of the reaction of a conservative guy to a man who doesn't step outside those boundaries of femaleness.
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>>43885873
Idk, V-coding isn't just misandry because otherwise it would just happen to cis guys. Also if I go topless there's a chance I'll get arrested as a woman but jailed as a man. If a girl is boyish that's generally a good thing but when a boy is girlish that's generally a bad thing. Even if I'm the easyiest to clock motherfucker I'm a seductive temptress until sexual activity is initiated where I'm suddenly so disgusting that the mere act of sex with me without a full medical history constitutes rape [see Clara Watkin and every "she has a penis, puke" scene].

Trans women are consider men and women as is convenient to fuck us over.

>>43885996
I mean this goes both ways, you say a cis guy is a trans guy you'll have people insist he's clearly a woman, the terms of Misogyny and Misandry don't fully fit these scenarios and oppositional sexism is more fitting
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>>43886180
yes but doesnt answer my question
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>>43886194
Yeah, people like to ignore that there is this bit of nuance here always. Both trannies definitely get their own weird mixes of misogyny and misandry so just strictly using those is kind of unfitting too. Not to mention the passoid vs. hon/poona situation, even there the stuff varies wildly
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>>43886180
I mean how would you talk to a trans woman about the misandry she is subjected to without triggering her dysphoria by reminding her she is a man in the eyes of the world? I genuinely wonder about this
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>>43885873
Strongly suspect that "transmisogyny" was coined more to implicitly affirm one's gender identity than to describe any real phenomenon
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>>43886270
well that's kinda my point, it implies said trans women are being perceived as women, which is not the case,
trans women are hated because they are men doing things men are not allowed to do
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>>43886283
But men are prohibited from doing those things because of misogyny
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>>43886283
you will never be a man
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>>43886270
>>43886283
Do you have a better way for trans women to talk about their oppression without making themselves dysphoric?
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>>43886305
no cuz women don't want their privilege usurped upon
ever notice how male formalwear is about anonymity and restriction
men wear ties and collars to bind their neck
women have no such obligation
women can wear colors and different shapes, men are to wear bland shapeless suits that obscure their figure in blue, gray, or black

freedom of expression is only for the female elite
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>>43885894
I was told by a hairdresser that my hair was wasted on a boy when I was pre-everything in high school. Oh and in grade school some boys crawled under the bathroom stalls to make sure I was a boy. Do either of those count?
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>>43886372
trvke
>>43886305
>men not allowed to do things, women most affected
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>>43886412
>>men not allowed to do things, women most affected
I wonder how people get this brainwashed.
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>>43886412
Next up, women not being taken seriously is misandry because being taken seriously is a shameful male trait that is discouraged
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>>43886700
women have the intelligence of children, them not being taken seriously is because they have nothing substantive to say and are mainly looking to involve men in conflicts over imaginary worlds of morality and micro-rules
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>>43885873
only partially and only sometimes.
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>>43886048
god tier esoteric crystal ball knowledge
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>>43886119
They probably will continue as long as someone responds to the original posts subject.
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>>43886361
they're not here in good faith, ignore it
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>>43885873
well obviously, but the manhaters here will bend over backwards trying to jew you into thinking it's """misogyny""", and this is why you can't respect most women (they don't have the balls to be intellectually honest)
t. man
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>>43885873
Misandry doesn't exist unlike transmisoginy.
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>>43888741
You don't exist
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>>43888741
sure does
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>>43885873
misandry is cool though
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>>43886048
>>43886834
i actually kek'd genuinely like i made the kek noise
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>>43891802
cringe
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bump
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>>43885894
people got pretty mad over this one
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>>43892802
but they aren't saying, big boobs are gross, they are saying, big boobs are gross on a moid
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>>43892802
still refuse to believe this wasn't a psyop
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>>43892859
do you think there wouldn't have been an issue if it was a cis female teacher doing this kind of thing?
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>>43892902
less of one, and no issue if her boobs were just naturally huge
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>>43892924
i think you're a little delusional, anon, no offence? this was in canada and i can tell you the issue as it was made here was entirely about how they were oversexualised and the risk of trivialising valid expressions of gender
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>>43892970
anon its a piece of plastic
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>>43894508
society is hysterical over sex features and bodies
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>>43894508
>its a piece of plastic
show up to work with children with a giant fake ass and try that excuse
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>>43885873
Trve
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>>43895257
I just think it doesn't matter. I mean sure, they might be trying to get a rise out of you, but there's probably more going on if this is happening.
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>>43887218
they will burn out eventually but someone will fill their shoes like the dalai lama
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>>43892876
it was, look at their track record, it's not below them, wonder what backhanders "ms. hannah" got



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