I want to cup balls in my hands, I want to feel them resting on my head, I want to feel what it's like to deepthroat a dick and have it twitch in my hands. ffs I want to swallow cum so fucking badwhy why why I thought I was better than all those bitches in st4t relationships that say they miss cis dick but I'm fucking not. I thought being a virgin would save me, I thought I couldn't miss what I hadn't experienced. I don't know if my boyfriend just sucks at sex but getting strapped fucking sucks, if I wanted to feel silicone in my ass I'd just use a dildo. The only good part is that I can feel him on me but of course he's short so I'll never know what it's like to be manhandled by a manThe only time I get to feel skin on skin is when I'm sucking him off which just feels like I'm with a cis woman and I hate it. I have to pretend to like it so he doesn't feel insecure tooHe's the perfect guy otherwise, but the sex is so lacking I don't know if I can actually continue the relationship. How the fuck do I even break up because if I tell him honestly it would probably mess him up for life
>>43889889same way cis women break up with cis men when they're decent folk: just tell him things aren't working out for you just because you two aren't compatible, and it's best to part ways before resentment builds and things get ugly and you waste more of his timeshit sucks but it can very well be that someone else will be more compatible with him, so don't meme him that he's broken either
>>43889966He's really clingy though and we are compatible, just not sexually
>>43890009resentment, disrespect, cheatingnot a fun sequence for the guy, even if he were cis, let alone trans
Third option, open relationship for sexual reasons, mono for everything else
>>43890099I don't want to end the relationship yet though. It's really messed up but I sort of feel like waiting until a better option comes along before breaking up
>>43890156I'm not cucking him and he wouldn't accept that
>>43890165>It's really messed up but I sort of feel like waiting until a better option comes along before breaking uppretty standard for a woman to have no honor and monkey branch, it's why we don't respect you and letting you get equal rights was a mistake
>>43890213?? guys do the same exact thing?
Bump
Just break up
>>43889889Theres no way to break up with someone without being "the bad guy". You literally just have to do it
break up. i wouldn't want to date someone posting shit like this behind my back
>>43889889>>43890165some are calling it the glowiest post this pride month #NotFallingForThisPoltardBait
>>43891086okay but like how>>43891107How can I prove it
>>43891133idk but the feds r gonna mark you down on your performance review LOL
>>43891133Caring about proving anything actually convinced me that this thread is bait. Nice try, chaser
>>43889889We got another one chasernation
>>43891172you have the chaser flagdo you want a timestamped photo of my tits or smth
>>43891201that depends, are you 5'10"" or above, below the age of 25 and not ugly cause from what I've heard that's what most chasers aren't and why I dated a trans guy in the first place
>>43891256>cis guys ain't shit and that's why i dated a trans guy in the first place>my trans bf does not fulfill me sexually i need cis dickhow are you throwing air balls on both sides of the court
>>43891203The flag was for you, put it on my fellow chaserbro
>>43891282okay you'll have to hear me out. On one hand I wanted someone who could understand my dysphoria and wouldn't just be attracted to me out of a fetish. On the other hand holy fuck I need to see what dick is like at least once in my life
>>43891312so what you're saying is you're looking to have sex with someone with a specific set of genitals and gender presentation? this just makes you a chaser in the opposite direction. i feel so fucking bad for your trans bf, you just used him for emotional validation and now you want to use cis men for sexual validation. this is what i mean when i say only trans people can hurt other trans people to this degree
>>43891342okay I guess that's what I did yeah, but how was I meant to know we weren't sexually compatible until we actually had sex?
>>43891299https://litter catbox.moe/zg50a5zmeohw644i.jpgproof at least that I'm a tranny
>>43891571Most chasers are on estrogen so they can roleplay as transbians. Nothing proven so far.
>>43889889tiny, pink, self-loathing hands typed this post
>>43891342>so what you're saying is you're looking to have sex with someone with a specific set of genitals and gender presentation? this just makes you a normal personftfy, cuz that's like 99% of the population
>>43891312>On one hand I wanted someone who could understand my dysphoria and wouldn't just be attracted to me out of a fetish. On the other hand holy fuck I need to see what dick is like at least once in my lifeyou dumb mf, there's plenty of chasers like that, me included
>>43891395that's why you have test sex while still dating before committing, the whole purpose of that period is to check for dealbreakers, and dealbreakers in the sex dept are some of the worst ones
>>43893936okay so you won't get attached to one of the main causes of dysphoria and want me to keep it?>>43893945How do you have "test sex" when sex is the most intimate thing two people can do. Also having sex without commitment is a good way to get pumped and dumped
>>43894598Nta but I'm fine with trans girls getting srs. It's kind of hot when a girl wants me to be her first after it. Also the thought of posting a video of me shooting rope to bother you entered my mind.
its fucked for this guy but i get where youre coming from. just gotta break it off honestly if its a deal breaker. if theyre so good in other aspects youre willing to look past it then just gotta suck it up and move on. if not then you gotta break up
>>43894649Well from what I've seen you're in the minority of chasers then. Also please don't do that I'm close to breaking up anyway >>43894681Probably going to break up, thanks, I just need to figure out how
>>43894799when you do break up with him dm me im a cis guy i got u, i am also a guy who likes trans women but not cause theyre trans
>>43890173He would and you don't even need to cuck him. Just have a threesome
>>43889889I love strap sex they stay hard indefinitely, they're hard immediately and they can go as long as I want. With cis men they cum within 5 minutes and that's that with the penetration or they struggle to get hard and stay hard
>>43889889As someone who's taken dick and taken strap, dick really is just better.
>>43895244I just don't really get anything from it, and it makes me feel shitty he doesn't feel anything either>>43895431What are the main differences? I'm trying to figure out whether I'll have the same problems with cis dick
>>43895437It's nice because you know he really wants to do it and not everything is scheduled around his orgasm
>>43895437>What are the main differences?Imagine kissing a Madame Tussauds wax model of a person you're attracted to. Then imagine kissing an actual person you're attracted to.The difference is like that, but with being penetrated during sex.
>>43895461He hates strapping me. I had to convince him to do it>>43895483okay that actually makes a lot of sense
>>43895492So he's doing it literally just for you and you're still complaining about someone doing you a favor?
>>43895562just cause hes doing it after being convinced to doesnt make it enjoyable, if i had to convince a girl to have sex with me i wouldnt enjoy it cause i would be thinking about how shes not enjoying it
>>43895568He's being generous and selfless and you aren't grateful is what I'm hearing
>>43895570well im not getting fucked cause im not op so no im not grateful. however, why would someone be grateful that their partner after much convincing goes "ugh fine ill do it" then does it unenthusiastically till theyre done
>>43895575Because they're doing something that's literally only for you you should be grateful to have someone who puts what you want above what they want
>>43895562Well yes because I can tell he doesn't like it, along with a strap just not feeling that good
>>43895579buddy if they were putting what she wanted above what he wanted then she wouldnt have needed to convince him. anytime ive done something with a lady even if i didnt wanna do it i just did it when prompted the first time and i did it to the best of my ability.dudes not superman cause he gave his gf who really wants to get fucked a lazy strapping
>>43895585>>43895588He doesn't want to do it but he does it anyway to make his gf happy it doesn't get more romantic than this
>>43895492>okay that actually makes a lot of senseYeah it's a world of difference.>>43895562>>43895585Nothing wrong with wanting a partner who actually desires you.
>>43895585>>43895562yeah see this is what im talking about, if the dudes huffing and puffing back there hows it enjoyable for anyone. at that point just dont do it
>>43895595dude are you dense? IT DOES GET MORE ROMANTIC. he could literally just do it without complaining and that would be more romantic. it would be more romantic if he wanted his lady in the first place
>>43895597Clearly he desires you a lot if he's doing things he actually doesn't want to do just to keep you
>>43895612surely you are kidding. imagine being in a relationship and your partner has to be convinced to have sex with you. does that at all sound like he wants her
>>43895612>i don't want to spend time with my gf but i do it anywayYou: WOW HOW ROMANTIC
>>43895610He's just being honest by complaining. It's hard to find genuine, honest partners these days>if he wanted his lady in the first placeHe does want his lady if he didn't he could just leave
>>43895621obviously not that simple to just dip cause op has conflicted feelings about all this.secondly i think youd love one of those "i hate my wife but i stay with her. she a ball and chain" fellas
>>43895621>could just leaveLet's be real a trans man into trans women who doesn't even wanna strap doesn't really have a ton of options
>>43889889cock and ballz are divine
>>43895610>>43895618>>43895619Okay to be fair to him he's alright with everything else it's just strapping
>>43895619Yes it's a genuine selfless act>>43895618You're just convincing him to do a specific act, you can't expect everyone to be into everything, but if they still cater to your specific fetish that's special >>43895630>obviously not that simple to just dip cause op has conflicted feelings about all this. I was talking about the bf, if he really hated strapping and doing his gf favors he could just leave >>43895632He only doesn't have options because people don't value good honest men anymore
>>43895649>specific fetish>basic penetrative sexlol
>>43895649ah yes my special freak fetish for... penetration. genuinely get a grip dude just cause youre ftm and you hate strapping too doesnt make it the perfect choice for everyone else
>>43895652Yes you can't expect everyone to be into penetration >>43895653I'm not ftm
>>43895664coulda fooled me, the way ur sitting here white knighting for this fella i woulda thought you were him behind that screen
>>43895649>>43895664>OP's desperate bf
>>43895667>>43895669I'm not fooling anyone you just don't understand what ops problem is really about
>>43895674You're right, you're not fooling anyone. We know you're the bf!
>>43895676banger response i couldnt have said it better myself
>>43895676No I'm not
>>43889889based. st4toids are just coping. nothing beats big white dick.
>>43889889Your going down a dark path OP. I knew a girl who thought this way while dating a FTM guy she just ended up cheating on him with the entire state. Everyone of her cis male friends she slept with usualy lying about her boyfriend to them to justify it. Then she would lie on her friens to her boyfriend everytime he found out saying they "coersed her" in some way or another. She treated a lot of people really badly and broke a lot of hearts (including her own) in the process. In the end it all caught up to her and she lost everything. If your having these thoughts about your BF you need to re evaluate things before you end up like that.
>>43895649fetish?? I just want him to have sex with me>>43895718I'm not shameless, I'd break up with him before I end up cheating, that's just unforgivable
>>43895780You just want to have sex in a specific way and not everyone is into that
>>43895788Isn't it pretty much a given the man will penetrate the woman?
>>43895811See you take everything for granted
>>43895492Your bf is a bottom and you force him to top :'D bet he is also fantasizing of cis dick
OP you wanna date a trans person who understands your dysphoria, and you also wanna date someone with a dick... just date a trans girl... get aboard the lesbianism train>>43895632Not true if he's early in transition/non transitioning/looks androgynous, trans lesbians love topping non-passing tboy pussy. If he's trying to date tgirls who are attracted to men though, he's gonna need to get good at giving strap to not just be a regular chaser bottom moid, the lowest of the low.
>>43895843why are you in every thread i'm in
>>43889889>Trans girl says he is not satisfied with sex with her trans bf>Looks into it>Trans boyfriend is a gay bottom thats forced to top (he is raped/made to penetrate)Everytime
>>43889889consider:polygamy
>>43895843He's definitely not.>>43895849I'm not attracted to women>>43895875He's not a bottom, straps just make him feel self conscious so he doesn't like them>>43895902Nope
>>43889889Break up with him. Creatures like you should avoid st4t if you're just going to leave him for cock, you're no different from the chasers that will leave you for cis pussy (which will happen repeatedly and you will eventually settle for a transbian to avoid being alone). St4t is wasted on you
>>43896061That's what I'm worried about, the reason I looked for st4t was so that I wouldn't get left for a cis woman, but how was I meant to know that a strap wouldn't be enough
>>43896074>but how was I meant to know that a strap wouldn't be enoughLet's be real it's pretty obvious you just didn't wanna listen.
>>43896079What? I had never had sex before?
Lowkey im not really attracted to women but wanted to enter a semi beard relationship where i can get married in the Catholic Church and im okay with it because id get strapped but after this thread idkk
>>43896129The thing is, im a virgin because of the whole Catholic thing and I don’t know if I save myself if its a mistake because i might not like it
>>43895780That's what she used to say too.... they were codependent like you two sound to be so they kept trying to make it work. Eventually he started cheating too and they both justified it in this back snd forth game of revenge cheating. Eventually it just festered till there was nothing left but rot.
>>43896090Sure but there's so many threads and discussions about how good dick is, and not so many about how good strap is
>>43896146I guess we are codependent. I promise I'd never cheat but the issue with breaking up is his personality is perfect and he likes me a lot, and I'm scared breaking up would mean never finding a cis man that could be the same>>43896147Well I didn't think it was going to be perfect but I didn't think it would bother me this much
>>43896147This thread is a larp to make ppl dysphoric. If its real (unlikely) then break up with him because he deserves better.
>>43896147Samefagging throughout the thread
>>43889889>>43889966>>43890009Trans men are owed sex and relationships from trans women.You are his property and cannot leave. I don't make the rules
>>43889889Why are you so certain you'll like a real penis more if you've never had it before?
>>43896177Once you're getting the real dick you need, it won't bother you anymore.
>>43896178>picrelSee I'd fucking LOVE to do this and try out every type of dildo under the sun but my boyfriend gets insecure about using a strapI don't know what to say to him, if I was dating a cis guy with a small dick I'd probably try sheaths too, it's not just because he's trans>>43896192Hot
>>43896206I don't, but I want to feel the twitches, the cum, the warmth
>>43896230Just buy a strap that does that?
>>43896214maybe he's worried it won't be enough, a lot of trans men settle for being vers or bottom bc they think strap won't be the same for their partner as a flesh and blood dick. sex is just a humiliation ritual if you feel like your partner is secretly craving the real thing. st4t should be for ppl who desire st4t, lonely desperate virgins like op should practise on chasers instead.
>>43896177It will go well till some cis guy that's just a fling isn't anymore. Then you won't be able to quit him or your BF and things will get really ugly. As you flip flop between them. Then you'll put the side guy on break to "stay loyal" to your OG BF but will end up cheating on him again anyway after he does some shit prompting you to cheat on him with people you dont care about making the side guy feel a way too, then end up with the side guy again and it will spiral from there as you repeat this cycle and the side guy starts to hate you too.This is unfortunately not a totally uncommon situation for MTF's dating FTM's.
>>43896261He doesn't want to>>43896266He said it's because it's a constant reminder he's afab so makes him dysphoric. I'd probably be more fine with things if he was willing to strap me but he's not>>43896271Okay this is oddly specific anon I'm sorry this happened to you or your friend but my moral compass isn't completely fucked yet
>>43896305You buy it and replace the old one?
>>43896312And he'd probably get mad at me. It's hard enough to convince him to strap me I practically had to beg him
>>43896335He won't get mad he doesn't have to change anything.
>>43896305Are you op or another anon
>>43896373op
>>43896335Dude he obviously makes it hard for you to communicate, this is a serious issue.
>>43896504idk it makes him dysphoric how can I argue against that?
>>43896511Its not just about his needs. You need to be able to advocate for yourself. If one person in a relationship is afraid to communicate because they’re afraid of possibly upsetting their partner and that causes them to be so unhappy they’re thinking about leaving the relationship, that’s a real concern, and it all stems from communication. You need to assert yourself.
>>43889889Yeah sorry you’re crazy, I just want to keep scissoring with liddol doods. Cis dick is exclusively attached to whiny pissbabies
>>43889889You could just cheat once, to see if it's really what it's cracked up to be. May as well.
>>43896379The whole thread has been about you wanting real dick and now you're saying strap is fine. Kys
>>43896569>Cis dick is exclusively attached to whiny pissbabiesGeneralising is bad. That's like saying you should avoid black people (not just the men, see pic related) because of crime statistics. Most black people aren't criminals, and most cis men aren't whiny pissbabies.
>>43896569ew>>43896585Well maybe I'd know if it were fine if I could do that? But what I have right now sucks and yes I want cis dick. The only advantage trans guys have over cis men is they get to pull out 8" knotted cocks and my bf refuses to do that
>>43896614Float the idea of a threesome.
>>43896618Even asking that would be the end of the relationship he's super insecure
>>43896622Maybe he needs to be a little less fragile generally. This is woman behavior.
>>43896622Well, realistically, you have to consider your options: cheat, leave, or stay.
>>43896655All 3 aren't very attractive I'm not sure how to choose
>>43897084Yeah, you have my condolences.
>>43889889>I thought being a virgin would save me, I thought I couldn't miss what I hadn't experiencedit;s the opposite, you're idealizing what you haven't experienced>>43896230as someone who has been with a cis guy u don't rlly feel any of this, most of the time i don't even know when he cumsblowing dick is more fun but penetration is barely any different in terms of feeling from silicone
>>43897228>as someone who has been with a cis guy u don't rlly feel any of thisHow big was his dick? I feel all of this with my bf (large penis)
>>43895960statistically speaking, he wants cock just as much as you do. just get a bull or smth jfc
>>43896628Lol, how many cis men would be ok if his gf wanted to fuck others
>>43896596I avoid all males, the problem is always male. Like in ops relationship, the male (op) is the issue
>>43897228>it;s the opposite, you're idealizing what you haven't experiencedAll the st4t threads I saw before we got together were about *missing* dick, I thought I'd be okayBlowing is what I want the most>>43897341Trust me on this he's not a bottom at all. Not all trans men are softboi hefabs
>>43897084Set him free. He is gay anyway
>>43897369agp flag calling a straight trans woman male. Cope harder lol
>>43897396Op has gay male sexuality, females are gynephilichttps://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15482445/
>>43897434Women don't have straight male sexuality though and the majority are straight and not lesbianHave you considered women prefer lesbian porn because of the sensuality and not because they like women?
>>43897369Fair enough. Though, if you're going to generalise by sex, why not race, too? Is it because racism is arbitrarily deemed too taboo for you?
>>43897383if he's not a bottom, he at least sounds like a cuck or he would learn how to fuck better. I'm sure he would love watch you get railed, just ask him some time
>>43897383>All the st4t threads I saw before we got together were about *missing* dick, I thought I'd be okayYou thought you could tolerate something subpar because you never experienced something better, but just knowing you have a better option, it's too late for you...
>>43897537I might just give him the ultimatum that if he's not willing to strap me with any enthusiasm or variation we'll break up
>>43897573I was naive to think it wouldn't be on my mind so much
>>43897583st4ggots are so obsessed with monogamy they would rather cut the rope than phone a friend smhhh
>>43894598>okay so you won't get attached to one of the main causes of dysphoria and want me to keep it?obviously, I prefer vag>How do you have "test sex" when sex is the most intimate thing two people can do. Also having sex without commitment is a good way to get pumped and dumpedtoo early is a recipe for pump and dump, yes. waiting until 10y of marriage and you've bought the baby stuff is not a good idea either, to take this ad absurdum.Committing to where you'd need to "break up" before testing the sex thing is also not wise. Do it after there's enough chemistry, obviously, and also wait enough to see that the guy will stick around if there's no obvious deal-breakers, but I'd recommend against making things official before doing the sex stuff, *and* having enough of that to actually see if it's just initial compatibility building, or you're actually sexually incompatible. It's OK and even encouraged to become exclusive before making things official, hoeing around increases STI risks even while on the road to a relationship.
>>43894598sex is not the most intimate thing two people can do, the process of dating that leads up to the sex is where the intimacy is formed; the sex is just a meaningless signifier, like the little paper that says you’re married
>>43898609>sex is just a meaningless signifierI assure you that is not the case, at least if you are in a monogamous relationship. Imagine cheating on your partner with some rando and saying in defense that “sex is just a meaningless signifier,” since you and the rando never actually did any dating.
>>43898267Being exclusive is basically being in a relationship, no?
>>43899194Nah. Think more "hey let's both abstain from slutting around since I want to sexo you up, and see if things are getting more serious".Making it official, as in "will you be my gf", is where you're in a relationship. The exclusive part is the pre-relationship STD/jealousy reducer, although many rush past it.
>>43898813it’s not a valid excuse, it’s just reality. I would be equally as devastated if a partner cheated with sex as if they cheated romantically, but cheating romantically requires so much more time investment that I would arguably be even more disturbed
>>43899391Then how is it “meaningless”?
>>43889889I'm different... I would love my ftm boyfriend even if he doesn't have a penis...
>>43899604I thought I was different too. I was a virgin for fucks sake, I gave this man my virginity and it still wasn't enough I hope you'll be different, maybe things will be fine if you luck out with a tall trans guy that's fine with strapping, but I didn't
>>43889889Don't be stupid anon, Just break up with him and don't tell him why
>>43889889Imagine being straight, skill issue
>>43899604>>43899667>I'm different, this tradmasc feature X wouldn't matter to meis a very common woman sentiment, but I recommend trying it first, and not being too harsh on yourself if it turns out your monkey lizard brain has a bigger effect than you're comfortable withnature can be a bit of a dick sometimeshappens even to the superior sex (men (me))
>>43899501the act itself is meaningless. there is no intimacy in a disembodied penis going in and out of a hole, he intimacy is created by the whole process of courtship that necessarily leads up to that moment.you can have flirting without sex, but you can’t have sex without flirting. the romantic interplay is the common denominator, and ultimate source of “meaningfully” cheating.if OP could acknowledge the instrumentality of sex, they could just have an open conversation with their partner about meeting those sexual needs without affecting the emotional basis of their relationship, whether that be via polygamy, a one night stand, cuckoldry or what have you
>>43899667I'm smaller than most trans men so his height won't be a problem to me thankfully>>43899918I'm beyond nature, my love for my ftm boyfriend will transcend physics and space.
>>43900059I've already said I'm not cucking my boyfriend and he doesn't want to be cucked either. Sex is intimate, you're literally inside another person >>43900083I'm 5'4", my boyfriend is an inch taller. Jokes on me guess I should've gotten a 95th percentile 5'10" trans guy or something
Bitches so ego inflated by dating apps that they’re like “wahhh your dick is fake” while their only hole is a baggy sack full of literal human fecesAnyway look at this cool paintjob
>>43900130>I'm 5'4I'm 5'3, I didn't think you could have a problem wiht having a FtM boyfriend at least barely taller than you :(
So OP is a homosexual and having sex with a woman isn't cutting it?
>>43900263When we're alone it's fine I guess but when we're out in public it feels like he wouldn't be able to protect me at all if something happened. Also his hands are basically the same size as mine and goddamnit I want to be manhandled so bad
>>43900301This is ragebait, FOH
>>43900380From what I've seen I'm not alone in this... there's a reason women want tall men and I found out the hard way
>>43900301It's alright as long as he is muscular, has a beard and is hairy I wouldn't mind that much I think (I hope :cries:)
>>43900393I’m 5’10” I’m just raging at you on behalf of mankindYou’re a fucking midget, buy a gun and make yourself useful if you want to feel safeUseless butthole
>>43900491Incel
>>43900487Oh to be honest my bf could be more of all of those 3I wish you luck anyway nona
>>43900499Get monkeypox you AGP worm-ridden faggot
>>43900515I wish for you to either somehow feel whole in your relationship, or find someone else Nona :(>>43900530You soulpast at least
>>43900491Okay whatever you say. It's a biological drive idk
>>43900558Thank you, I hope so
>>43900613Do the right thing and dump your boyfriend so he can find someone better
>>43900641Anon who broke your heart?
>>43900657No one, I'm in a long term relationship. But if this were to ever come up, i'd want to be broken up with so i could move on.
>>43900974I think anons boyfriend should be allowed to move on instead of being strung along by someone who isn't attracted to him.
>>43900982That's what Nona asked ??? She just doesn't want to break his heart >>43891133
>>43901001I think that question has already been answered. Theres no way to break up with someone without hurting their feelings unless its mutual. Anon just has to do it and get it over with. If she doesn't want to hurt his feelings too much the thing to say is that your lives are incompatible and leave it at that.
>>43901049like over text or something, its not that hard.
>>43901049That would probably work
>>43900130then tell your bf how to FUCKthis sounds like a skill issue on your part
