How come psychologically, most FTMS do not want to look like what men think is the ideal male form? Most of them want to be skinny twinks, even the transmedicalists and the ones who work out are doing it for lean muscle. It's easy to say "well, they don't actually want to be male, they arent dysphoric they're just fujos" but I feel like perhaps the underlying issue is that most women don't see the buff, hypermasculine male as attractive and this view persists into transitioning.
>>43903571>is that most women don't see the buff, hypermasculine male as attractiveI assure you, they absolutely do. But the reason they become twinks and femboys is because that's what is most attractive to straight and bi men and most ftms are gay.
>>43903571I do want to look like the ideal male formI want to look like jackie chan at his peak.Also, do not conflate fit men with bodybuilders. Different worlds. Most women do like men who are fit. And no, I'm not saying this to make room for "bulky" men, ie fat asses.
>>43903580Why do ftms want to be attractive to the people who see them as a woman or a porn category? Even if they're into men, they should have a little bit more self respect. Real twinks look like men, not like anime boys.
>>43903589>Why do ftms want to be attractive to the people who see them as a woman or a porn category?Because that doesn't matter. Those men find them attractive and are interested in dating. Ftms find those men attractive and are interested in dating.Conflating it with self respect is fucking stupid.
Speak for yourself
>>43903571idk I tried to get big and buff and bulky and it just made me realize I'm actually a cripple and the reason I couldnt exercise much pre T wasn't just PE dysphoria but an undiagnosed health condition. ideally I'd be built like comics eddie brock but I can't do that shit without damaging my body further to the point of excruciating pain so I'm androgynycoping
>>43903586>do not conflate fit men with bodybuilders. Different worlds. Most women do like men who are fit.Women love bodybuilders lmao. They would slurp pic related's balls in a heartbeat.
>>43903571The most attractive body I've ever seen on a man, he was bulimic. I don't have the willpower for that though.
>>43903571A jacked 5'5 manlet is simply pathetic
>>43903571I'm a gym going ftm. The muscles and beard stuff take time to get, transitioning spaces are built around transition(ing) not being transition(ed) if that makes sense. So there wouldn't be many macho men around. Also man bad icky ew what are you doing here lgbtq reaction to any straight trans guy who doesn't out himself
as a troon it's super validating when the mishima-type guys treat me with contempt. it's super validating! maybe you should ask yourself why you want to fuck a guy who looks like yukio mishima, OP
>>43903571ftms want to look like a womans idea of an ideal manmtfs want to look like a mans idea of an ideal womanmany theories why> but I feel like perhaps the underlying issue is that most women don't see the buff, hypermasculine male as attractive and this view persists into transitioningthat's broadly correct bit also keep in mind something like 90% ftm would look retarded with a bodybuilder physique and are better off twinkmaxxing even if their only goal was attracting women. and most people want to feel attractive and attract a partner. add to that that it simply takes shitton of effort to do, effort that wont ever pay off the same way making use of your androgyny willyou gotta base people's ideas of attractiveness on what they'd theoretically want to look like if they could assemble their bodies like legos to get a more accurate picture. then you'll find out they often have a wide variety of acceptable bodies as long as theyre male
They are gay or bi most of the time and gay/bi men like twinks>t. straight ftm who wants to look like picrel
>>43903571i wish i could be buff and masculine like a cism but im 5'3 it would just straight up look strange to be a body-builder level fit while a midget. ive opted for a runners body instead, but i am trying to beef up my arms a bit, but having a bit of trouble since im low weight
