"Recently" there has been a lot of posts about people who are on HRT but don't want to or cant socially transition.>Cis man on HRT>I will learn to accept that I am a cis man>i will never socially transition>All boymoder threadsSo state your reasons why in the format of.>1>2>3
>>43906050ill go first>Im 5'9>I have a really big and masculine frame>My soul is male
>>43906050>picrelhi-c is a horrible drink
>>439060501. its a joke2. nobody really cares3. iwnbaw
>>43906062this but also its because I'm a coward even though there's probably not a single soul who knows me who doesn't realize I'm trans
>>439060501. i dont pass2. i wont pass3. i cant pass
>>43906050i have a theory that cisman on hrt and i will never socially transition poster are the same person but idk yet
>>43906050Too old, can't pass, I'd rather not get hatecrimed, etc.
>>43906050>relate to gay men too much>its cringe for me>male soul
>>43906050i did already for a couple years, and everyone treats you like you're insane. i'd rather that not be my entire social life, so i stopped until i can save up for surgeries. i'll try it again if that works out
>>43906050no benefits whatsoever, I only have body dysphoria not socialization dysphoria
>>43906129>I only have body dysphoria not socialization dysphoriaI feel this the most, although I do wish that others could see me as a more soft person.
1. too old, slightly balding2. I mostly like being male and doing male things while only slightly, if at all, hinting at feminine interests or behaviors.3. Might as well save the trouble that comes with it, because I don't really give a shit about what I identify or am identified as. Because if I'd pass (I fucking hope my hair grows back), people would probably see me as a tomboy (due to my metal outfit) unless they already know what I am.
What is too old for a transition? For me I think its anything past 20
>>43906235past 20 is insane to say, like from 18-25 it's all pretty much the same
>>43906235It depends on genetics and frankly how well you adapt. Some do really well in their 20s and 30s. Others are cursed even as teens.
>>43906243There's a lot of differences in secondary masculinization and potential skeletal changes. Starting at 18 vs 25 is the difference between a lot of body hair, balding, missing out on hip growth, getting even wider shoulders, etc.
>>43906235I'm >>43906165 and fucking 35, started two months ago. But I don't really care. Still get rated at 25 or even younger. It makes me happy, even if I have to manmode in public for now or forever.
1. I have a disgusting male frame and am built like a brick shithouse.2. I will never pass, and the only people who will ever see me as a woman will only be pretending.3. It will make my life infinitely harder for no benefit (since I won't ever pass).
>>439060501. I’m not trans2. I’m too moided
>>43906050Repost because I'm retarded and forgot to do the formatting1.I already get dirty looks going anywhere near a public restroom because I live in a conservative hellhole2. I've heard people at my job talk about killing trannies and while I'm not actually scared of that, I don't wanna deal with the social risk3. Not sure if I feel like getting written out of the will yet
>>43906050I feel like it's a christcuck/rightoid psyop. They consistently try fracture LGBTQ crowd by pushing the idea "fine, you can be gay if you want, just don't be troon, it's against my god's will". Basically it's the same deal like any "LGB without T" posts.Make no mistake - the moment they manage to suppress trannies enough, they will be harassing the rest of gays, it's already happening, for fucks sake
>>43906346>I feel like it's a christcuck/rightoid psyopno i just hate myself
>haven't gotten far enough in voice training>don't pass >cant put in the effort right now
>>43906050>live with family>unsafe (turbo christcuck) country>too moidy
>>43906050>5'8>decent waist but ruined by shoulders and giant skull>low-ass voice (baritone)>33 years old>"male socialized" meaning i often don't know what the fuck cis women and mtf normies are talking about>"male socialized" meaning i am a depressed anxious reclusive autist>i am a deeply ashamed individual who struggles to advocate for himself (if i had to do things like correct pronouns/deadnames or deal with transphobia i would die of cringe)>my entire life i have hated being the center of attention and have worked to make myself as low-profile as possible, so trooning would reverse all that and put a target on my back>genital dysphoria is one of the big ones for me, and i don't like where SRS tech is right now, and I don't like anali'm sure i'm forgetting something
>>43906050a lot of those people are just reppers. the 'i will learn to accept' girl especially. for me its:1. I like my name and pronouns and it doesn't feel weird or bad for people to call me a boy2. I hate my body hair and my libido and e kills both3. trannies dont seem to care about my pronouns but obviously being on hrt makes them like/trust me. i get to be part of their social clique which is nice bc i have a hard time making friends and they're smart/cool
I socially transitioned after repping since 15 because I lived in a rural area and people were not accepting.I never really passed face-wise since my family members were never conventionally attractive, I have a nice feminine body but with a low-curve and skinny build and my voice is a weird androgynous tone that nobody can associate with any gender due to how unique the timbre is (I think that's kinda awesome but I hate when people ask if I'm a femboy for it).That made me rep for a while, especially when I had no fashion sense and shorter hair (pixie cut) but I eventually stopped giving a shit about everyone and moved to a big city to just do wtv confidently, which I feel some people could use... Spreading positivity maybe I dunno...
>>43906050Because it's pointless. I tried to socially transition, stupidly, and be honest with my family when I was 13-15. It didn't work. I'm an adult now, and I keep my medical transition entirely quiet because they can't do anything about it, obviously. Not socially transitioning protects me from ridicule
>>439060501.im scared2.im weak3.autism
>>43906785aw cute
>>43906793im suffering.
>I'm pretty well known in my area so I'm waiting to move before I try what is essentially a new identity >I have improvements to make as I'm still early into my HRT journey and I don't feel I'm quite there yet >I need to get away from my family as they'll become immediately hostile towards me should I be outed as transIt's not like I'm not pretty or anything, I even voice pass, but I need a change in environment before it's a safe and smart move to transition socially and even then it'll take time and babysteps to get there.
>>43906050>my face doesn't pass>my shoulders are huge>people know of my existence and it's stealth or nothing for me
>>439060501. i dont want to look like a woman, thats not what hrt does (proof: check passgen)2. i dont want to be perceived as a woman3. i dont like being treated as a woman
>>43906050i will never pass. i dont think im cis and i think most of the people claiming they are cis on hrt are being silly but that its okay and they can figure things out on their own in time and dont have to continue if they change their mind. i kinda wish that was a popular option in my day cause it would have saved me a lot of mental struggle. also a motivating factor for me was learning about a 10 years boymoder and i was like yeah i could do that sounds based>>43906129>>43906145me too. but im pretty sure its just cope. >>43906254im really not so sure its real except maybe hips locking in and hair but those are reversible. i dont think shoulders/face/ribs are real since a lot of what i thought happened in my 20s went away and and i started at 35. it was pretty much just muscle and fat distro the only one that i know is barrel chest and that happens in like your 60s or 70s>>43906528>>33 years old>"male socialized" meaning i often don't know what the fuck cis women and mtf normies are talking aboutbreh idek what normie males are talking about. i cant into dry humor or deadpan banter it goes right over my head. im so autistic i gotta ask for step by step clarification and wont so instead i just stand around awkwardly >>43906590oh yeah 2/3 are good ones but i hate my name even outside gender lol >>43906326>3. Not sure if I feel like getting written out of the will yetthats one too. even if i socially transitioned w work and friends i wouldnt tell my senpai also had a family member come out and got blown off not taken seriously and ignored about the biggest change in their life. when i asked their distressed mom what their last conversation was before they went no contact she claimed she had no idea what it could possibly be about. so fuck the rest of them for that
>>43906050>i am simply not a woman>i already wear dresses/skirts in the summer and am a flamer>not into humiliation ritualsi'm gendered female sometimes, but more often i'm seens as male. it literally is easier to just do nothing in this direction and just keep being a femfag because that's what i always was (well, since the debut of puberty that is).
>>43908798Closed growth plates aren't exactly reversible and hair loss often isn't either...
>>43906050>6'0>afraid of people already>too afraid to go clothes shopping
>>43906050>im 6’3” and have an undeniably masculine face/jaw/shoulders>id rather not put my own personal journey all up in peoples faces >I don’t care about name/pronouns whatever, if someone wants to call me she on their own accord sure who caresMaybe I’ll feel differently after years of HRT but a couple months in I’m fine just presenting in a more androgynous way. I think a year from now I’ll have undeniably noticeable breasts if I wore a tight tee but well cross that bridge when we come to it. I’m cute enough it doesn’t matter :) >t. Coping boymoder
>>43908892>Closed growth platesyes but that also means shoulders DONT get bigger. people focus on hips but that also means you DONT get taller and facial planes DONT continue to expand and brow ridges DONT inflate. its just gaunt/baby fat face leaving and a decade of progressive muscle buildup on shoulders/chest/arms, slowed metabolism and beer belly taking over twink tummy etc etc. leathery skin, thicker and denser body hair, all that reverses with regular moisturizer exfoliation estrogen diet and exercise>hair loss oftenive seen some insane shit from hrt alone but i guess it is hit or miss.i would like to get some real data or studies on it but im pretty convinced its not real. like i have pictures now where i look the same as i did at 24, but i also have pictures of me at 21 that looked 10x more chopped than me at 30 and its like entirely bc the lens? biggest irreversables are gonna be wrinkles and like skin tightness but both of those are very avoidable esp if you never get fat and use sunscreen. i also have weighted the same like my entire life so wheretf is this body recomposition even going? an extra inch in my torso would add like 10 fucking pounds
>>43906050need my inheritence