I just dont even bother identifying with the lgbt

>>43908981
what is your political ideology? why do you oppose drag queens?

>>43909007
Have you ever noticed whenever lefties push the drag queen bullshit it just breeds more resentment from people who were otherwise centrist?

>>43908981
well arent you a special little case? as if a bifag has literally any meaningful struggle by being lgbt, you can always go cishet if you want! maybe then you can stop shitting up this board

>>43909027
yeah drag is weird but I don't really give a fuck. it's been an important factor in expanding civil rights for gays and trannies. i don't Like it on its face but I don't make it a point of my ideology to spite it. centrism is retarded anyways if you stand for nothing you're a loser desu

>>43909007
Drag queens are crossdresseds they wheel out to make trannies look bad.
No normal tranny is like "Huh let me dress up in an exquisite pride flag dress and talk to kindergardeners in a library"

Theyre just kinda like regular foids

>>43909027
Don't worry in five years you'll realise it didn't matter what the "tolerant left" did. Basically the moment some psych Jew identified that transgender rights were still iffy in the general populace it was already set in stone.

>>43909073
How many rights have you gained thanks to the children drag queen readings so far?

>>43909094
truth nuke

>>43909077
thank you for speaking trvth cismoid
we'll get someone to boyremove you as a reward

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>>43909126
Go to hell!!

>>43909007
>what is your political ideology?
I don't align myself with any specific ideology I just go by individual issues

>why do you oppose drag queens?
I really don't care if grown men want to play dress up behind closed doors but I really can not stand it when people treat drag shows like the most important aspect of gay culture
It's a giant optic nuke and leads the retarded populace to associate hyper femininity as an inherent component of being gay
The story hour bullshit was just a terrible idea from the fucking start and I don't know how they thought gays would be more accepted because of it

>>43909077
trannies already look bad. there is no distinction between a drag queen and a Normal Tranny in the dim mind of the rightoid. they are both aberrant elements to be excised from society. i don't like drag but no subaltern ever saved themselves by trying to assimilate with the oppressor culture. I would rather direct my energy at the people who actively wish to torture and murder me than those who are on my side but just kind of weird and ugly

i think that universal basic income should be a centrist stance and that drag is a scourge us trannies are forced to grit our teeth and tolerate
put the nuance hat on

>>43909200
the sneering hatred behind that "grown men" comment is pretty revealing. you have an ingrained notion of what Grown Men are supposed to do and be that sucks. fair point on drag over all I mean I really don't get it or like it I just think it's a waste of time to go after them because we're never going to be acceptable and palatable to the right. you can't conform your way out of oppression.

as for your ideology, also fair I don't really either. what are your thoughts on economy though since you don't like Marxism, I'm curious as to what you think on that

not even trannies like the drag shit nowadays. mass democrat voter death now

>>43909274
>we're never going to be acceptable and palatable to the right.
The thing is we really shouldn't be giving them easy propaganda
No one other than the most dedicated democrats would support a drag queen story hour, it looked fucking embarrassing to everyone else
Just because there's people who already hate us doesn't mean we should intentionally increase those numbers
The drag queen story hour shit has only increased homophobia
>what are your thoughts on economy
We should nationalize our natural resources and biggest companies, I support labour unions, we need to decrease the amount of taxes a single person pays, healthcare should be free, crypto shouldn't be regulated, the feds shouldn't handout work visas to every Raj, Ahmed and Ching who ask for one,

>>43909105
eating cheeseburgers and smoking weed both do not contribute to rights being gained but you are doing both right now.

>>43909590
god I wish I was eating cheeseburgers right now

>>43909552
ok you're actually based i rest my case.

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>>43908981
Yeah it’s insane how rock and a hard place politics is.
You either support societal suicide and collapse via importing people that hate us and want to kill us all and destroy society, or you directly support the people that are already here and want to kill us all and destroy society.
It’s madness

>>43908981
I also hate how "progressive" lgbt people are. Just let me be a faggot in peace.

>>43910105
I hate how 95% of lolbertarians are just closet republicans because nationalist libertarian is basically the only coherent ideology for any LGBT person.

> because Americans are retarded subhuman

Although that’s true it’s not different in Europe (where I live). Being a part of lgbt (especially being a tranny) is seen as a political statement. I’m tired.

>>43910201
Which euro country? if you don't mind me asking

Nazis are the only sane ones. The literal Hitler worshipping ones.

pickme bootlicker etc
you will never be one of the good ones

>>43910762
and non of us will be women, thanks progs.

>>43909200
>I don't align myself with any specific ideology I just go by individual issues
Based, ideologycucks are retarded

I think you're living out a divine punishment, OP. as a consequence for having ridiculous politics, people are going to think you have survival instincts and empathy and are thus progressive. sorry about it

>>43908981
>drag queen story hour
kys

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It’s time to reverse the conditioning

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>>43908981
pretty much. in 10 years the choice will be get assaulted by Abdul for being pale skinned and gay or go back to living stealth in a homogenous crimeless society.

I think I'll support the latter

>>43908981
>drag is le bad!
your so cute parroting my takes from 2 years ago tripfren

The drag queen shit is 100% the right successfully making us fight over a strawman.

Stop letting them make this an issue. Ignore anyone who talks about it. It would be like if we let them make us defend flat earthers in the name of free speech because they retardedly decide to start attacking them. Stop letting their retarded attacks dictate how you spend your life.

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You think you have it bad?

I agree with most leftist politics but drag is where I veer off. I hate it, it’s a massive optics nuke to the trans community and it’s 90% drug-addicted men who use it to make sexist jokes and degrade women. The other 10% are at least decent costume designers or makeup artists and are clearly in it for that aspect. I don’t believe drag is inherently sexual, but I also don’t get why we need drag queens reading to kids, like pick a different thing to do if you’re into charity work. I don’t care if drag is ‘ingrained in queer culture’ it’s useless and has become an outlet for gay men to flaunt their misogyny and profit from it.

>>43908981
>drag queens
Kind of annoying
>religious right
Literally wants to kill you

It's not equivalent lol because you can ignore the former and not the latter

>>43915488
Reducing (at least the worst) drag queens to "kind of annoying" while they obliterate the reputation LGBTQ identities is a huge error to make.

>>43915488
this is not only about drag queens btw

>>43915316
>can't you see they're trying to divide us?!
>don't let them make this an issue, instead you should just surrender completely and let us continue our optics nuking
Every time. Every goddamn time with you people. I'll take "stop letting them make this an issue" seriously the instant one of you people declares it's the drag queens or whoever who should cave for solidarity and the greater good, instead of insisting that we should keep eating the shit and pretend we like it.

>>43908981
And how are you different from the pickme faggots?

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>>43908981
BAIT THREAD!

>>43915316
>bruh just ignore the people sinking the entire movement lol mind yo business

>>43915474
Exactly

>>43915488
Siding with radical progressive politics means to side with the retards destroying nations through things like mass immigration, criminal forgiveness, drug liberalization etc
Voting right means you get fucked, voting left means everyone gets fucked

>>43915505
This

>>43917586
I'm not bending over backwards for religious psychos who want me dead unlike the LGBT conservatives who'll burn bridges just to be "one of the good ones"
I don't support Trump or any other conservative nutjob in office
I actually give a shit about the wellbeing of the LGBT community while pickmes are only concerned about themselves and likely would never speak out against any antiLGBT legislation

>>43917973
you're disgusting

>>43918344
cry about it, bitch

>>43917856
trvke OP lost a shadowboxing match against a psyop and thinks its because "americans are retarded and subhuman"
>>43908981
youre kinda retarded if you fell for stuff like "drag queen story hour" being an issue tbqh

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>drag queen story hour is not an issue, stop talking about it!

>>43919542
>youre kinda retarded if you fell for stuff like "drag queen story hour" being an issue tbqh
You are genuinely brain rotted if you think grown men in dresses reading to children is a harmless or wholesome activity
That shit was an embarrassment that only made more people homophobic

Just because there's people who already hate us doesn't mean we should allow queer people to act indecent or retarded in public

>>43919650
>That shit was an embarrassment that only made more people homophobic
yeah that was the point of the whole ordeal and you fell for it so gg

>>43920199
>bro this was a psyop to make us look bad
>thats why you should support it and let people make us look like freaks

>>43908981
I feel you, part of the reason I repped as an adult was because I didn't want to be associated with modern progressivism or the over-sex LGBT culture.

>>43920390
Yes literally are falling for a psyop, yes. You basically admitted earlier that you don’t even have any problems with it besides it being bad optics, and this somehow is so important to you that it makes you consider explicit religious bigotry and anti-LGBT laws as being comparable.

>>43914303
the fascist femboy state is the solution. the sooner we realize this, the better.

>>43920560
why should I tolerate a psyop then?
Wouldn't that be an even better reason to be against it?

I grew up a daily show watching new atheist libtard, back then the right wing were lame moral police. Then around the time obama got his second term liberals went mask off and thought they were the new moral police, or what would become woke, or social justice warriors. for a short time being far right became counter culture. to trigger the libtards was really the same mantra the french decadents had come up with, "Épater la bourgeoisie" or to shock the middle class.

It was fun but trump turned out to be a guy who starts endless wars, pro israel, and didnt fix the economy.

I realized what i hate the most is moral police, whether they be woke libtards or evangelical right wingers

i guess i can say now im some sort of libertarian or anarchist

>>43915474
>I also don’t get why we need drag queens reading to kids
For me the absolute fucking limit was when thye were like "it's not political, it's not ideological". Like bitch, WHAT COULD IT POSSIBLY BE except ideological to put rag queens in front of little kids?! *At least* admit that you're doing it on purpose because you want to normalize freaks.

>>43908981
>be right winger
>find out you're a tranny and/or faggot
>realize that right wingers are actively deceitful and constantly lying about LGBT topics to fuel hatred and division
>realize that most right wingers are retards who don't actually care about other people at all
>realize that no matter how obvious the truth is, right wingers will still plug their ears so they can live in a fake world of fear
>refuse to think critically at all about what that might mean for other beliefs peddled by the right wing
>refuse to engage with actual statistics about how immigrants contribute to society
>refuse to hold any empathy for people who aren't immediately standing in front of you
>continue to hate brown people because muh social media timeline said that they smell bad and therefore you should be scared of them

Well, at least we can say you definitely have the American political spirit!

>>43921268
access to white people is not a human right.
flooding my country with violent shitskins who WILL hatecrime me is not empathy.

>>43921309
access to gendered spaces is not a human right.
flooding my bathrooms with violent moids who WILL stab me with their rapesticks is not empathy.

>>43921328
nta, but i agree with this too as long as foids are being kept out from men-only spaces as well.
until then? neah, fuck you. get all the moids in all women's spaces just like foids invaded and destroyed everything.

>>43921309
But the bisexual shitskins will beat you up out of internalized homophobia and then proceed to make your asshole their toy!!

trannies love this!

>>43921268
I'm racist because I grew up in one of the places I was a minority and experienced prejudice firsthand, not because TV told me to be.

>>43921268
>you must be a heckin righty since you don't support American jobs, housing and other resources going to foreigners
or maybe I think we should put our own citizens first instead of feeling obligated to babysit people from other countries

>>refuse to engage with actual statistics about how immigrants contribute to society
Yeah I'm fucking sure Europe benefitted from importing millions of muslims
It's so obvious, you can tell by the way UK allowed Sharia law courts and all the gang rape gangs roaming through the cities of England
You can pull up any crime statistic from any Euro country that goes by Ethnicity, they're all foreigners
Any contribution made by an immigrant can be made by a citizen

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>>43921456
>Black people bullied me as a kid, I can use this fact to justify my hatred!
>Who needs logic or empathy when I never have to change my beliefs after the 2nd grade!
>>43921460
>Nooo don't call me out for my extremely biased and limited view of the world
>Look at all these narratives I've been spoonfed about a place I don't live about people I don't interact with
>It doesn't matter at all that they happen to justify my preconceived notions about how things work, I don't need to question them

>>43921511
>You are NOT allowed to let your lived experience to inform your opinions unless they agree with me
Also I have plenty of empathy, I've just realized that living together with them is impossible.

>>43921511
people like you should be hunted for sport, very much unironically.
subhumans like you have made almost every decent country unlivable.
>muh empathy
out of empathy you should kys.

>>43921529
Complete skill issue, just don't be a racist freak. Black people can't spit acid on you.
>>43921530
Wow, very edgy! You are such a smart boy! Do you want a cookie for how cool you are and how big your penis is?

>>43921560
I like how you literally don't have any argument except to utterly dismiss real experiences for the sake of your petty bourgeois platitudes.

>>43908981
>drag queen story hour
Not a political agenda
>mass immigration
You can be progressive and support controlled immigration
>marxism
Anti-progressive and extremely LGBTQ phobic ideology

>>43921578
>You can be progressive and support controlled immigration
no you can't. to say the free movement of people should be subject to imaginary lines in the sand is antithetical to human rights and fundamentally not a progressive stance.

>>43921598
you are not a serious person

>>43921566
Your only argument is that minorities happen to have the potential to be prejudiced against the majority. This is obvious for the surprising fact that they're also human beings with feelings and beliefs. It's just funny to me that your solution to some people being shitheads to you is to try to be an even bigger shithead and ruin even more lives as payback.
You do realize that you're denying my lived experience of knowing and being friends with people who are different from me and having it be completely fine and normal, right?
>I've just realized that living together with them is impossible.
It's not, you're just bad at being normal.

>>43921624
>the ideals i claim to believe in aren't serious

>>43921632
My argument is that I have lived experiences that contradict your ideology, and that they have resulted in my opinions, rather than the source being what you claim (media.)

>>43921598
Cool. What if said people moving into some "imaginary lines" want to do harm against people who are native or citizens of said lines?

>>43921598
This includes your house btw

>>43921643
>you can't be progressive unless you say fuck laws and borders and stuff

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>>43908981
>i wanna be a fashoid but the other fashoids wanna kill me, what do?
lmao

>>43921649
You made the claim that it's impossible for you to coexist with groups of people based solely on a superficial inborn characteristic. This implies that whatever prevents this coexistence is either 1) something innate and unchanging about them, or 2) something innate and unchanging about you.
My own lived experience handily tells me that 1 is false. If, by some stretch of imagination, 2 were to be true, then it would be your responsibility to leave them alone, rather than forcing them away from you.
Far more likely than that, however, is the possibility that your inability to coexist with them is not an innate characteristic of yourself, but just regular racism and intolerance. This is a learned behavior that can be unlearned as soon as you stop being a baby.
xoxo

>>43921656
>What if said people moving into some "imaginary lines" want to do harm against people who are native
i don't see how you get it in your head to turn an issue of people harming others into an issue of them crossing the line. are they crossing the line with the express intent of doing the harm, or is that 'to' word a later addition of yours? and i mean, we could draw these lines as small as we want. should every city have a border wall, lest someone from one city travels to another to do harm to its residents?
>>43921659
i think it's very reasonable for humans to have a private place to live in and keep their belongings. it is not reasonable to draw a line on a map and say "this is mine, this is for 'my people', no one else is allowed to come here." you're comparing the mere concept of privacy to keeping our entire species siloed with vast swaths of the earth we share inaccessible to billions.
>>43921668
you can be more progressive than others, but you will certainly not be upholding a complete picture of progressivism if you take the concept of borders especially seriously. laws in general are fine, i don't think we'd get on too well without those.

>>43921781
>you will certainly not be upholding a complete picture of progressivism if you take the concept of borders especially seriously. laws in general are fine, i don't think we'd get on too well without those
I don't necessarily disagree in the utopic sense. In a perfect world we wouldn't need to have borders. The problem is that it isn't a perfect world and we're nowhere close to the kind of world where not having borders would work, but lots of left wing politicians genuinely want to have no borders today.

>>43908981
>tfw I have no fucking interest in supporting drag queen story hour, mass immigration or marxism but I'm still automatically paired with this shit because Americans are retarded subhuman
Are you familiar with the Japanese short story The Spider's Thread?

>>43921810
please define your standard for open borders 'working', why it could not work at present, and what human rights are infringed on when open borders do not work that justify infringing on others' right to free movement.

>>43908981
>drag queen story hour
1 liberal cis woman's right to be entertained by gay clowns is more valuable than the public perception and resulting well-being of 1.000.000 trans women

>>43921830
it doesn't work economically or socially.
Everyone's right to free movement is restricted all the time for all sorts of reasons anyway, why is this infringement so much worse than every other one?

>>43921843
could you be more vague? in what ways does it not work 'economically or socially', what rights are infringed on when it fails to work in those ways, and what infringements do you think i am claiming this one supersedes?

>>43921770
>based solely on
Lived experience.

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>>43908981
i personally think drag and the overall camp aesthetic are gross and i probably would rather not have drag story time exist (which it mostly doesn't, anyways, this thread is just perpetuating a narrative that it doesn't need to).
BUUUTT, i think its a lot more tolerable when you reframe it to what it actually means in the eyes of a libbed up cis parent. A drag queen is a person putting on an exaggerated character with comical hair and makeup, usually with a lot of bright colors and silly themes. It's literally just clown-time story hour. Drag is a modern form of clowning.
They are silly and entertaining to look at, and in the liberal mind, they're a way to softly introduce and normalize gender nonconformance and being playful with gender expression in the mind of their kid. So it gets a woke bonus that a full earnest attempt at socially enriching the mind of their child. I don't really think that's so bad in theory. In practice it does look bad, unfortunately.
>>43921835
oh damn someone else already came in with this right before me.

>>43921865
why are national borders the one case of restricting freedom of movement that progressives disagree with?

>>43921876
i'd love to clarify if you'd be an adult and name some of the other cases you have in mind.

>>43921870
>>based solely on
>Lived experience.
Wow I knew you were an idiot but I didn't realize you didn't even know how to read, I'm sorry anon I shouldn't have expected that much from you.
The sentence is pretty clear that "based on" is referring to the underlying difference between two people that leads to them being unable to coexist in your view, not "based on" in the sense of the thing that formed your view. I was describing the fact that racism is prejudice "based on" skin color. Obviously your racism is "based on" your personal experiences if I am to take your word for it.
I don't even know how you could possibly misinterpret my sentence that badly.

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i support gay and trans rights but not "queer" culture. i wish this was a position i could take without literally everyone hating me. ill never stop supporting people getting marriages or medical treatments they need but everything else is too much.

>>43921781
>i think it's very reasonable for humans to have a private place to live in and keep their belongings
Yes and this should be extended to the land that human exploits for their livelihood, else someone else can take or despoil it and starve them. This is the same for all of that human's family, and since they are family and trust each other, they agree that they can share the land each member uses and they all have to protect it from people who want to exploit or despoil it and starve them out. Congrats, you have a clan. Several of these, likely related, reach a similar deal. You now have a tribe. Several of those, likely related, reach a similar deal. You now have an ethnos. Several of those... The downside as these get bigger and bigger is that you can trust the people involved less and less, because they're not related or familiar to you. This necessitates the creation of authority, and hierarchy, and laws, to keep hostiles from starving you. A border is nothing but the extension of this principle, it's the line delineating the private home of a certain number of people who have all agreed to share with each other, at the cost of submitting to the same authority to ensure fairness. It should be easy to understand why they don't want to arbitrarily take any stranger in who might violate the law or the basic respect of belongings, and seek to regulate it.

>>43921511
I don't have to live in Europe to know immigration destroyed everything

Any sort of contribution an immigrant would produce can be done by a citizen

There is literally no fucking reason we need to flood our country with millions of immigrants who have the equivalent of a high school education
Those immigrants flooding in aren't fucking doctors or engineers
They go after the jobs any one can do, we can absolutely live without them
The 1% of immigrants who actually are doctors or engineers aren't a justifiable reason to let millions of unskilled people in
We can have the doctors and engineers without letting the others in

I have no fucking clue why you people think we need to baby millions of foreigners

>>43921901
Private property? jails, prisons? The whole world is built on invisible lines

>>43921911
Oh I have eyes and can read studies too, but what's important is the origin is different than what you claimed.

>>43921598
>imaginary lines
if borders were just lines then there wouldn't be any problem if the US wanted to invade Mexico

>>43921756
I love how this comic accurately portrays the boldheviks as dysgenic orc people

>>43921901
taxes

>>43921871
>Drag is a modern form of clowning.
that's not right at all

>>43921871
I definitely see your point and mostly agree. However I think this:
>they're a way to softly introduce and normalize gender nonconformance and being playful with gender expression in the mind of their kid
gets at the big rift between trans and gender nonconformists as a whole. A lot of progressives want to deconstruct gender, which is a more political ideal, and ironically a lot of their support for transgenders comes from that. Trans people benefit from gender expression insofar as it allows them to identify their feelings and transition earlier, but beyond that they don't have inherent interest in nonconformity. In fact, a lot of trans find comfort in gender roles. I think this leads to a weird situation where some people will say "you trans people have to support drag queens because they're trying to accomplish the same thing" when really the rationale is different.

>>43915006
this

>>43908981
there's no such thing as a pedophile politician. you have been brainwashed by Israel.

I just wish that these internet trannies didn't immediately assume that someone is hyper leftist just cause they are trans…like I don't want to think about the fucking Israel Palestine conflict when I'm busy getting my rights taken away

>>43921928
that's a very pretty story anon. some small notes!

we must first acknowledge that this is a total fiction. human society did not emerge from individual families working land and arranging with other independent families to put their heads together and share resources. human society emerged from small tribes surviving nomadically for most of our history, and once agriculture developed mutually working and sharing what they reaped from the land. for private ownership you're looking a lot further down the line, like in ancient mesopotamia when the population was large enough to make it a matter of individual families participating in their own modes of production. and at the time, hey, that's well and good: one family does x, another does y, you teach the kids how to carry on the tradition, it's all a neat system. also note that this system did not exist to keep outsiders from starving them out, it was just practical.

from that system, you were a hop and skip away from ownership, and at that point you have a regular old human civilization. those arose multiple times in multiple places, and where things got interesting in terms of this 'border' idea is when they interacted with each other. now we have two sets of strangers with different ideas and traditions who might disagree on how our species' shared resource of the land ought to be allocated. now they start having an interest in saying where 'their' land starts and ends. and once we have the concept of individual places run by individual nations, it becomes pretty easy to see how one nation wouldn't want those from a nation they have some problem with crossing their line in the sand, and so the border as we know it today can arise.

this system only arose out of happenstance. we can and should see about upending this system in favor of one that better respects human rights. keep your lines for all i care, they obviously have their uses, but spare me the talk about who should and shouldn't cross them.

>>43921986
I mean historically and within queer culture, yeah it definitely isn't.
Within the eyes of conservatives, it's just degenerate perversion that we get lumped into (though they view us as degenerate perverts regardless).
Within the eyes of cis society that views drag favorably, it's usually interpreted as harmless tomfoolery. Lots of libs will lump us in with drag too in an annoying way, which is why I don't really like it. It's also why I think it's served it's historical purpose and we don't need it anymore.
I also more or less think that the modern persistence of drag is way too rooted misogyny, but that's not something that gets fixed overnight. Drag acting as an accessible on-ramp to queer culture is probably a net neutral at worst in terms of harm to cis womanhood or reinforcement of patriarchy. Though obviously this does nothing to negate tangible harm to trans women.
>>43921992
i agree with you to some extent, im a tranny who wants to be stealth. i was more so describing the cultural value the cis person intends to impart on society by attending and supporting public drag events, and that i think that it's a cute and positive belief to want to share with kids.
that being said, lots of trannies do enjoy being gnc, even among binary trans people who are still trying to be perceived as their lived gender. I dont think we get harmed that much by cis people broadly supporting gnc behavior, even if they might be slightly confused by how dysphoria works, because it's still better than them being totally ignorant or intolerant of transness.
It's much easier to move a cis person from that position of "I support trans people for deconstructing gender" to "I support trans people for resolving their gender dysphoria and living authentically, regardless of how they do it".

>>43921491
We wont deny it... we're freaking chuds. Chuddy chud chuds and our takes...? lets just say our takes are freaking based... Hazbinposter...? Keep posting hazbins... I used to think you were against us... But the truth iis... You're only fueling the flame... Hahahaha...

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>>43922148
>this system only arose out of happenstance
It arose because humans are naturally competitive for the naturally limited resources on this planet. 'Cheating' behaviors, which in biology refers to obtaining resources unfairly without contribution, are basal and present even in single celled communal organisms.

>>43921958
>if borders weren't real then you would have no problem with a nation asserting its borders by force
>checkmate progressivism
do you think about the words you say even slightly?

>>43922252
If borders are imaginary when it comes to immigration then are shouldn't they be imaginary when it comes to sovereign territory claims?

If borders are imaginary then what's stopping Mexico from claiming Guatamala or the US claiming Mexico?

>>43922283
I dont even necessarily agree with the person who said that borders shouldn't exist, but I think you have a severe lack of creativity and critical thinking about this topic. if borders don't exist, then it doesn't matter what nation claims to own a territory, the governance of a community is up to the people within that community.
You're asking "what if Mexico expanded its borders" to a person who is arguing for a world that is incompatible with the political nation state of "Mexico" as a concrete concept, let alone "Mexico's borders."

>>43922326
>the governance of a community is up to the people within that community.
yes
And nation-states are just large collections of communities, especially representative democracies
Those people in those can decide who governs them
You know what else they can choose?
Who they let into their communities

>>43920614
It would be best to not let your entire world view be shifted by a psyop. It would be best to keep your convictions rather than uncritically rally against something because it is “cringe” and attacked often on social media. I don’t know what “be against it” even means here, since you stated that you aren’t against drag outside of optics. What exactly are you against here?

>>43922527
>What exactly are you against here?
As previously stated, I hate that such a cringey and embarrassing act is considered a staple of gay culture

Drag is on the same level as those shitty leather dog masks
I'm fucking tired of gays being represented only by the most degrading shit

>>43921328
So same for you :)
"Same sex spaces" are a narcissist delusion

>>43922624
I don't actually care at all about trans people in bathrooms. I was replying to one stupid argument with an equally stupid argument that might resonate with them.

>>43921934
>Private property?
i already covered this in >>43921781
>jails, prisons?
prison is (or at least should be) the restriction of an individual's right to movement after they have demonstrated a material propensity toward infringing on others' rights in order to prevent future infringement on those rights.
>>43921958
the institution of the united states government is not a human and does not have a right to free movement.
>>43921980
>taxes
this is unrelated to the matter at hand which is the right of humans to free movement.
>>43922170
>It arose because humans are naturally competitive
this is a childish oversimplification and appeal to nature.

>>43908981
hey dumbass you used the wrong whose

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>>43922159
here is a relevant hazbin hotel image for that response.

>>43915505
lol they don't. Conservatives will latch onto anything. Drag queens are just one excuse.

>>43919650
Drag queens are literal clowns, and the issue isn't them existing (we literally can't stop that) but the insane propaganda mill and the "own the rightoids" mentality cis libs have.

>>43922326
>If borders don't exist, then it doesn't matter what nation claims to own a territory, the governance of a community is up to the people within that community.
How do you define a community if you refuse to draw a border around it? Is the governance of a village up to the people of that village or can the federal government just declare itself part of the same community and make those decisions? And if not, why does the village get to assert community over any given household in it?

The governance of a community being up to the people within it is what we have NOW and the borders are there to define who gets a say, you cretinous socialist gasbag. That's *why* people within e.g. the US community are allowed to govern their affairs by e.g. deciding they don't want to add any outsiders to their community.

>>43922527
>It would be best to keep your convictions
It seems like the tripfag's convictions never were that drag is super cool, however? In fact, I don't think so myself either, I hate all the circus freak homo shit. Can't bear it. But both of us and everyone like us are constantly assaulted by this woke bullshit, "no, you have to help push this in the faces of children!" Fuck OFF. Refusing is what keeping my convictions looks like.