Back when I was cis I briefly dated a girl who called tgirls "the best of both worlds." That comment aside she was fairly toxic in general.

>>43911782
>"the best of both worlds."
an elemental lmao. a fundemental kek.

>>43911736
my ex in hs was when i was still repping. she could tell. she was REALLY bpd though. i think its probably a zoomer phenomenon mostly and most typical of theyfabs

We have 4 of them in >>43911120

I had a detrans afab obsessed with me that hid that she was a detrans cause she "didnt want to feel like she was mocking such a real trans girl"

>>43911736
they do, there are those that are weird to trans woman and those that don't kind you

>>43911834
>"didnt want to feel like she was mocking such a real trans girl"
thats such bullshit wth

>>43911882
she would kiss the ground Id walk on, it was crazy how much she liked me being trans

she was conventionally attractive and humble too which is weird

>>43911908
she was probably bpd

>>43911908
did u even date her or was she too much for you?

>>43911959
I did date her but it was like 100% platonical for me

pre-ftm transition I was a chaser if that counts.

where do I find one

OwO girlpussy?? GIRLPIV???!

>>43911996
how was your experience as a pre-ftm chaser

where do I find one to use as an onahole?

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>>43911736
Cis f chaser, the best relationship I've ever had, actually. Ended absolutely horribly, but that's besides the point. T4C gives me life and I've never stopped wanting it since.

>>43911833
are they still having a drama bitchfit over there, or what?

>>43912084
Hi.

>>43912392
hey come over

>>43912392
>are they still having a drama bitchfit over there, or what?
its ended thankfully, or its at least at a standstill for a while

>>43912517
Alright, bet

>>43912529
I still kind of dislike everybody involved based on how everybody has been acting and they're the most prominent posters so that's a shame

>>43912529
It comes and goes in cycles

>>43912612
yeah i get that, im still fairly new being back here again and it was really annoying from even the little bit i saw so i can imagine over time its just unbearable

I wish I could get a cis chaser gf...

>>43912626
I'm pretty new being back too, already feels insufferable in a lot of threads.

Anyway. What endears some people to cis f chasers? What makes you want us back? I'd like to understand it better. Is it literally just PIV like people say?

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>>43911736
They dont exist and are created by the cia to make u agp and nuke community optics + ur a creep if cis f chasers somehow make ur malebraind ahh seek then more than a tranny of the same caliber

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>>43911736
I can't shake the feeling that cis women in general just hate us and when they chase us they only chase because of how masculine we are
otherwise they would be chasing cis women surely
we're like men to them except dumber, weaker, and easier to abuse because if we talk back they can accuse us of being masculine for raising our voices or call the cops on us
not that I'd raise my voice I'm very demure irl
I feel like they laugh at us

I've been dating almost exclusively trans women for the past like 4 years.

>>43912704
It really sucks, it feels like my only options for dating are other trans women or cis guys

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>>43912724
how do you find trans women to date when we're so rate?
>>43912734
I mean I'm bi but I have only ever slept around with cis men, partially because I still use Grindr (yuck) and idk I never went to lesbo bars

>>43912704
>cis women in general just hate us and when they chase us they only chase because of how masculine we are
I feel like the number of like actual well meaning cis chasers is the same for men and women, there's just way more desperate not well meaning cis men chasers that pretend to be respectful and well meaning, but in reality it's just a fetish thing or you're his very last option. But there definitely are well meaning and respectful cis women chasers too, they're just spread out throughout several spaces without a single place to congregate, so it's a bit harder to find them.

>>43912668
from the most self-sabotaged and brainwormed standpoint it's the ultimate form of validation

also piv

>>43912785
>how do you find trans women to date when we're so rate
Haha honestly I don't really know either, I mostly find them online, a lot of them on discord servers and online games and such, but yeah it's pretty much impossible to find trans women near me, I live in a major city and still I have NEVER seen a trans woman irl, met plenty of trans guys a majority of my irl friends are trans guy, but never met a single trans woman.

>>43912809
Both make perfect sense to me, really. Thank you nona

>>43912825
Seconding this, this is basically how I met my ex partners, OKcupid, Discord, and other gaming spaces

>>43912804
I feel like at least cism chasers are honest about seeing us as little twinkish bottoms
some of my closest friends are cis women and whenever we go out I still feel like the comfort gay friend
they do treat me kindly, one is even a misandrist, and they like to go to the bathroom with me to make me feel comfortable because I'm afraid to be attacked by a TERF when washing my hands
but deep down I can still feel it, even if I'm the same height as them I still have my manly features
>>43912825
that's genuinely adorkable
I wish you success with the t-genders, angel

>>43912825
Where I live there's tons of trans women but I almost never see trans men
>>43912785
Yeah I have no interest in cis men, they're yucky

>>43912704
I always hate responding to these bc i can literally only ever speak for myself, but women that don't hate you or chase you for how "masculine" you are do exist.
I'm a lesbian, I date all kinds of women, I just happen to have had the most positive experiences with a trans woman and have been looking for smth similar ever since. If i found that with a cis woman or a trans woman, it wouldn't make a difference, I just want that feeling again. Physical qualities have very little to do with it for me.

Maybe it's just down to meeting more neurodivergent autists that I connect with that also happen to share my kinks and interests just happen to be mostly trans than cis in the spaces I'm in, it's hard to say.

>>43912392
read this, thought "hell yeah, that sounds awesome," then realized im a biwhore with a ftm boyfriend FUCK

>>43913057
I think t4t is rlly pawsome too though honestly, there's a lot to be said for it

>>43911736
I have like 10 filters set up so these threads don't appear

I'm tired of you straggots taking up board space clawing for access to biofoid bodies thinking breaking social convention as a tactic to gain access to biohole as an original idea instead of the cause of 90% of violence and rape in history

please either get off estrogen and hit the gym like the other men or get off our board

>>43911736
They exist my transbian sisters have encountered them IRL
Im too much of a straight loser to know anyone besides my bf. Im basically a NEET with a job and a certificate.

>>43911736

>give us your f chaser experiences
My ex was one. I can't say I knew too much about chasers at the time but she would make weird comments about my body like 24/7. She even gave me the "you're the best of both worlds" line when she was very drunk once.

I honestly thought she was pre-hrt transmasc when we first got together but nope, 100% a repper (i know this for a fact now). They were very domineering at times, and I learned a lot about myself kink-wise with her, no regrets there.

>>43913171
>least self-loathing transphobic HSTS:

>>43913188
Least delusional agp straight man who thinks fucking lesbians with his piv rapestick is totally valid ans the same as us hsts divasluts

>>43913232
Ladies, is it gay to be a woman and fuck another woman
(yes it is)
You all are so gross anyone who is a self described hsts immediately gets no sympathy from me honestly

>>43913273
it's not the being into women I care about it's the like sheer desperation of wanting to conquer women's bodies and then posting online when your conquest runs dry
this isn't how like healthy relationships from
they don't want a partner they want the idea of a partner

>>43913479
It's amazing how none of what you said applies to this situation

Hello!!! I came here to say yes but my girlfriend (theyfabanon) already arrived early... I get treated super nice by them, more than every tranny I've dated, I don't think I can feel comfy with anyone else atm.

>>43913479
>wanting to conquer women's bodies
weird projection

>>43911996
Why becoming ftm made you stop being a chaser?

>>43911782
Truthfully we are the worst of both worlds and any true chaser should acknowledge that

wouldn't say I'm a chaser but a trans gf is appealing because I feel like she'd be more inclined to going along with my fucked up sadistic fetishes than a cis woman. Also I kinda like the werid androgynous small breasted pathetic looking girl with glasses in cis women and a lot of transwomen also fall into that look.

height is kinda an issue though. I like women shorter than me so she'd have to be under 5'10, also her dick would have to be small.

unfourtanely I live in a rural area and am fat and unattractive and mentally ill so I'm probably not going to get a cis or trans gf anytime soon.

>>43914820
>more inclined to going along with my fucked up sadistic fetishes than a cis woman
Why do you think it is? But I fear you might be right

>>43911736
I had a cisf chaser gf who was very manipulative and tried to force me into piv and is kinda the reason im only into men nowadays

>>43914824
I feel like trans women often develop more masochistic submissive tendencies to overcompenstate with the whole being veiwed as a sexual predator both from when they lived as male and when they started living as trans chick.

also low self esteem+ plus probably being bullied growing up causing weird kink shit later in life

>>43912876
>because I'm afraid to be attacked by a TERF when washing my hands
Holy kek, no woman wants to square up with a natal male. Worst you'll get is a glare or dry comment.

>>43913273
>Ladies, is it gay to be a woman and fuck another woman
>(yes it is)
Trannies aren't women though. No pussy, not a woman.

>>43914865
>tried to force me into piv
Hot...
>>43914891
Well you're not entirely wrong

>>43914820
>a trans gf is appealing because I feel like she'd be more inclined to going along with my fucked up sadistic fetishes than a cis woman
Yeah. Honestly. This might be a part of it too, cis women who are into the things I'm into are rarer I think

>>43914933
Yes they are women, a pussy does not a woman make

>>43913232
You fuck DL men on grindr and probably have aids. you are not a woman, you are a faggot.

>>43913983
giwtwm

I need a rapehon gf so bad..

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>>43912668
i hate the idea of piv but i've gotten addicted to eating pussy bc of my cis gf
and now i think my soul is fated to end up w cis women bc of it, i prolly jus like giving head tho
more serious answer is that when the cisf chaser is respectful about it it almost makes the love feel stronger ? like maybe to some extent it's just my tranny self hate but the idea that a cis woman, who could easily go for the other 99% of gay women, would choose to end up w and fully love a woman from the 1% that most people see as gross and threatening is really nice to me
forced piv chasers who use us as "safe dick" are demonic tho and were sent from hell to ruin the cisf chaser image

>>43911736
Chaser as in specifically seeking trans women? I like cis and trans women provided they meet my standards. My longterm gf is cis and it seems like most trans lesbians are T4T anyway, so not much to report.

>>43915572
>i hate the idea of piv but i've gotten addicted to eating pussy bc of my cis gf
Based alert? It fucking rules to est pussy.

>and now i think my soul is fated to end up w cis women bc of it
Same, but I like piv on top of the eating pussy bit, and it's genuinely better to have sex with pussy than with ass cus of prep, germs and whatnot.

a cis woman, who could easily go for the other 99% of gay women, would choose to end up w and fully love a woman from the 1% that most people see as gross and threatening is really nice to me
Cis women, especially lesbians, who respect trans women and show them love just like any other woman, are some of the most awesome people ever. Those who don't are usually assholes about it desu, instead of respectfully saying "I don't find you attractive because of some of your features" they have to go "RAPESTICK RAPE PENIS AHHH!" (At least in my experience)

>forced piv chasers who use us as "safe dick" are demonic
Anyone who coerces a partner into doing something is demonic. I seem to have the opposite experience of what people say about c4t vs t4t, dating a cis woman ended amazingly whereas dating a tranny lead to me being constantly manipulated and pestered to start a poly and do orgies.

>>43915876
Forgot a > for the second time today oh ffs

>>43912876
okay so you’re saying that cis women treat you perfectly well, support you, care about you, and your only evidence to the contrary is your hallucinated misogynistic brainworms about how le females are more manipulative and conniving than straightforward honest men? lmao

Need a cis f chaser to rape me so that I haven't only been assaulted by men

>>43911736
from what i've seen, no. they can like trans women as friends but would rather be tortured to dead than doing anything romantic or sexual with them
i've never seen a cis woman be attracted to a trans woman irl, not even online (in non-english speaking places)
but i'm also in south america so i guess location influences it too

>>43916214
There's a schrodinger's cis woman phenonenon... will she hate romance/sex with a trans woman or will she love it?? There is no in-between... let's find out...

In all reality, yeah I do see the majority of them are like that and I got stupidly lucky to end up with one that isn't like that. 90/10 odds

>>43912069
It was fine but I only managed to get with one trans woman and she was a bitch (not that I think all of them are, just her)
>>43914642
idk but being on T kind of killed my attraction to anyone for a long time.

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>>43915876
>It fucking rules to eat pussy.
i pray i can stay w this woman long enough that she gets to see me get srs and she gets to do what i do to her lol

> it's genuinely better to have sex with pussy than with ass cus of prep, germs and whatnot.
me personally i also jus hate the feeling of anal and i get way too in my head about how i can't fully enjoy receiving like that unless i actually had a pussy. thank god i like being a service top tho (*>人<)

>I seem to have the opposite experience of what people say about c4t vs t4t, dating a cis woman ended amazingly whereas dating a tranny lead to me being constantly manipulated and pestered to start a poly and do orgies.
the quality of tf4tf prolly completely depends on where you are, i'm a southerner in a relatively liberal city and i only know one polycule tranny but it's prolly more of those in blue state + city combos

>>43911736
Not a chaser but have a trans gf and was in a situationship with another. Dislike penis. Honestly would rather not date a trans woman again if I break up with gf. Have had the worst experience dealing with someone else’s dysphoria suddenly becoming my problem and having my feelings be invalidated. Not with my gf, she’s great.

>>43916478
>i pray i can stay w this woman long enough that she gets to see me get srs and she gets to do what i do to her lol
That's really cute nona, I pray for your success! Sometimes I do think it'd be cool to get to know what it's like to feel that but it's whatever, more in the next point.

>i can't fully enjoy receiving like that unless i actually had a pussy
I don't enjoy bottoming at all in general but I can do it if I'm in the mood for it, my gf likes pegging so I find myself bottoming rarely, but not never. This is why I'm not planning on getting srs, I feel like it's too much work if I'm gonna end up topping 99% of the time... with a strap I'd feel nothing... Plus I kinda like the look of a penis more, mirror me will be happier, but thats besides the point...

>the quality of tf4tf prolly completely depends on where you are
Extremely woke small country, every transfem I meet here quickly becomes not very enjoyable to be around unfortunately. I really don't know why.

>>43916626
>my gf likes pegging
based
hows even the dynamic with your gf like, i mean from previous threads i know youre the top but like generally hows she like, how is the dynamic, how do you treat her? does she treat you like a "safer man" or is that 4chan brainworm bullshit

there's only at max 15 cisf on the entire board, none of them are chasers lmfao. they hate MtFs with a burning passion it's why cisles and ftmg are dead

>>43916757
Literally not true

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>>43916667
She treats me like just... as woman lul... Afaik she treats me as she'd treat any other one of her partners, even the cis ones, albeit I think she's only been with 2 and the rest are all trans women. (she has stated above how she's been on a bit of a 4y trans woman diet) >>43912724

She likes to adress to me as like some noblewoman with fancy honorifics and is super sweet, says I'm a distinguised lady... Huge baby tho, (I hope she doesn't see this) I end up being a mother figure and caring for her, which I enjoy a lot. She wouldn't hurt a fly as much as she wants to be the tough lesbian type.

For example, our usual morning interactions goes as
>"Hello gorgeous lady,,. did you know you're really pretty..."
>Not as much as you madame
>"OHHHH YOU,,, LIESSS"

and then, if we're together (ldr), I proceed to be all cuddly to keep her insecurity away, refer to image for our favorite method (me being the one holding)

>I mean from previous threads i know youre the top
Yeah I have stated that I'm a top multiple times because I don't wanna be one to speak for the bottoms/people with bottom dysphoria... but my gf has stated she's fine with post-op trans women and that she couldn't care less about what junk someone has, so it's not like it's that relevant ultimately, I just don't want to group myself with issues I do not have the right on speaking on.

This is just me trying to deconstruct how people think of female chasers as just people who force PIV on you and treat you as a "safer man" while also clarifying I'm by no means the best example when it comes to the PIV part... cus it's also my preferred way for sex...

Now for the sad news, she's a very rare breed of person... Most cis lesbians wouldn't dare touch a penis and are even repulsed by post-op trans women, I get genital preferences and all but the latter is learning towards transphobia more than anything desu.

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>>43916626
>That's really cute nona, I pray for your success!
tyy i hope you and your gf can last too ! we need more good c4t in the world

> my gf likes pegging
based x2

>with a strap I'd feel nothing
for me not feeling it is the best part, i can fully focus on pleasuring her and it's one of the few things i get zero sexual dysphoria or brainworms from, it's so fun. i hear a lotta cis lesbians say they wish they could feel their strap tho so i'm prolly a minority on that lol

>Extremely woke small country, every transfem I meet here quickly becomes not very enjoyable to be around unfortunately
honestly i feel like this goes for lgbt people generally, like as an american i cannot relate at all to california gays or new york trannies, but southern gays and trannies are really my people. i find most lgbt people way easier to interact w when they've grown up having to be at least aware of that struggle. not even like they gotta be from the most rural conservative hellholes but at least some exposure and awareness to how things ain't always gon be easy where they are

the constant fixation this board has on cisf chasers is a very stark reminder of how many of you are heterosexual men who don't buy their own bullshit about transsexuality

>>43911782
Female chasers--bi women--want transgirls for the same reason chasers--bi men--want transgirls

It's not because you're girls

>>43916921
extremely narrow minded way of seeing it but the thing about cis chasers is just the validation of cis women acknowledging your gender to the point where they are actively attracted to you, I would bet like 95% of everyone so interested about cisf chasers doesn't actually care if their g is cis or trans, they just worry about being acknowledged and desired as a woman

>>43916882
Yeah I feel like people who grew up surrounded in queer environments end up being a bit more tenderqueer or sexually deviant.

>>43916921
Yes, I think the fixation is a bit excessive, I like to come on here to talk about my own relationship but it's a bit much after the 20th daily thread about cisf chasers.

Most of these people probably just want assurance that they're gonna be loved by cis women because they want to experience the "authentic" feeling of homosexual relationships, they are attracted to pussy and want to try it I suppose. I get how it's frustrating to know you're bound to only date the same time of woman (trannies) for the rest of your life.

Since it's clear your comment was meant to be demeaning, I will counter this is no different than the constant threads everyone makes on how much they want a cis man to make them feel "like a real woman"... it's just homosexual so it lands differently in this board, known for having a whole binary to group homos and heteros as bad and good through blanchardism.

>>43916938
I feel bi women often want women as an experiment or a situationship in general and just end up dating men for the rest of their lives because it's what they were taught or because it's arguably "safer".

The argument can be made for chasers only wanting trans women for being AMAB since that's a common pattern among people who fetishize us... but that gets to the point where we have to define chaser.

>A chaser is someone predominantly/exclusively attracted to trans people
There are female and male chasers out there, and they love trans women for who they are.

>A chaser is someone who sees trans women as a fetish
There are female and male people who love trans women for who they are, but they are not chasers.

That's my take at least

>>43911736
Idk how to explain it, I feel really insecure around big gocks, it makes me feel like my little thingy isn’t competitive. I prefer highly estrogenated and incompletely formed impotent ones, I love feeling them leak all over my tummy and rubbing on them. I am also a big booby enjoyer. Sometimes, I’ll let one use a strap on my ass, if she’s been really good.

>>43917334
Are you the middle eastern self-described femrepper mommy in her 40s?

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dooming aside, if youre pretty and passing there are plenty of cisles who will give you a chance, its more a question of whether or not youre into the girls who are into you. i have really specific tastes so ive had interest in me thats not reciprocated in the past. if youre not at least physically passing though then youll probably be getting interest mostly from bi girls (chasers), who unfortunately tend to be very abusive and see you as man lite

>>43911736
She wanted me to detransition and identify as a femboy

>>43917531
I'm so sorry to hear :(

>>43917334
This sounds like SPH for cis women holy shit

>>43917493
Uhhhhh why does everyone say I’m middle eastern T^T I just say wa’alaykum salaam back now. I mean I know I veil but thats a very common practice and I clearly don’t have a muslimah style of wear.

I’m also in my early 30s.

>>43917581
Oh okay nevermind :( I mixed you up with another FTM repper...

>>43915247
Soooo what makes them a "woman"?

They lack the biological infrastructure of females.
They lack the assigned female socialization.

They are to planets as dwarf planets are.

They were low-key a theyfab who had pink everything and dyed hair, the whole nine yards, hello kitty fan, the whole nine yards.
We slept together, used the same hair brush, shared a hat at one point.
They eventually tell me that they had lice and didn’t want it to break up because of it.
Yeah ok
They broke up with me 2 weeks later
I shaved my head soon after that.
Went from occasionally malefailing to just a bald guy.

>>43917957
Why breaking up?

>>43913026
what was the experience and why you didn't have it with cis girls?

>>43912392
you're genuinely subhuman for wanting to ever be in a relationship with disguisting cissoid freaks

>>43917969
“I feel that the way my life is moving, it would be better if we broke up”
Btw, got into a poly relationship soon after we broke up

>>43917832
I mean from a purely medical perspective, the body has many cavities and convulutions that are female. What we more expressly associate with “female organs” have their prototypes further up the body. It’s not productive to be reductionist in this regard, you will lose comprehension of the system quickly. Consider, the heart is a muscular chamber with two intermediate gas exchange organs on the side. The bladder is a muscular chamber with two kidneys on either side. The stomach, opens up into the duodenum, and on each side a different duct. Even the corpus callosum, is the womb between the two lobes of the brain. Why are these less female than the uterus? Even barring that, a remnant remains in males generally. A remnant of the bipotential gonad, a remnant of the müllerian tissue. We should recognize the differences, but its not helpful to pretend we can particularize any segment of this system without radically altering our understanding of it. These parts are not supposed to separate physically, will we not err if we speciate them logically?

>>43918124
You will eventually bounce back, don't worry Nona !

>>43915572
>forced piv chasers who use us as "safe dick"
need this like you wouldn't believe

>>43918107
I'm the subhuman cissoid freak, retard.

>>43918049
>what was the experience and why you didn't have it with cis girls?
Honestly, the reason I didn't have it with cis girls is just happenstance, i'm pretty sure. There's nothing dictating that I can't ever have that with a cis girl, too. I just haven't found it for myself yet.
As for the experience, it was just the person I was with. She was autistic in the same way that I was, matched my freak in the exact way I wanted to, even pushed me and corrupted me to be worse in a lot of ways, which I was also really into. Basically just really pushed my boundaries in a way that I really liked in terms of my masochism, sexual fantasies and kinks, which like I said, anybody can do, I just happened to have found that comfort from a trans woman and it altered my brain chemistry in terms of what I really like and have been longing for.


>>43918918
you're so based for that, nona.

yeah the myth abput transbians is that cis women dont -want- men like that

>>43919063
>pushed me and corrupted me to be worse in a lot of ways, which I was also really into. Basically just really pushed my boundaries in a way that I really liked in terms of my masochism
Nona you're just like me

>>43919108
Let's hold hands while we get brutalized, or something..

>>43916795
you're not a cis woman and not fooling anyone, only male chasers like me desire you

>>43919063
did she ever give you flowers?

>>43918918
Pussy from a cisf chaser would fix me

>>43919293
Yesssssssssss this is the way

>>43912704
chasers date trannies because they want a woman but also really really want a penis to fuck them

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>>43919395
No, but we were pretty much ldr anyways, she was homeless, things were bleak, for both of us actually, more so her than myself, I never really liked that I was never in a position to help out more, but I did my best. We spent every waking hour we could with eachother to support eachother and distract from the horrors™

>>43919447
It'd fix me, for real...

>>43919482
Let's get fixed together twin!

hello you tgirl yes you reading this please give me a chance please god please

>>43919470
>they want a woman
wrong, they want a safe man. little do they know that troons are actually more likely to abuse them

>>43919525
Go on Grindr, you will surely find trans women to date there

>>43919525
ok sure

the problem with this whole thing for me is that I still live and identify as a man despite having a somewhat feminized body/face which basically relegates me to bait for the bishit chasers, at least as far as I can tell

>>43919525
wya

i basically married one. my wife literally trooned me out. well, kinda. in the summer we do LARP as a lesbian couple at festivals.

>>43919594
Forgive me if this is tone-deaf since I haven't dated since I was cis, but is this a problem as long as the person loves and appreciates you for your features instead of seeing you as a fetish to keep on the dl?
>>43919610
NEED

>>43919547
Grim, no tranny wants my disgusting moidish troon body on Grindr.

>>43919625
>is this a problem as long as the person loves and appreciates you for your features instead of seeing you as a fetish to keep on the dl?
not at all, in fact that's absolutely the ideal for me - I'm open about and quite satisfied with what I am but still sitting with the masculine social gender role in pretty much every aspect of my life kind of rules out getting with most cis or trans women who would identify as lesbians or be attracted to/comfortable with women specifically rather than some genderfuck nightmare like me with a masculine voice and identity

>>43919563
what it was that simple

>>43919594
a non issue to mr as long ad you have love in your heart

im in louisiana

>>43919685
Too far away sorry miss chaser

>>43919651
Oh I thought you were cisf, well your best chance is Grindr and trans bars

>>43919682
I feel you. I still call myself male despite being on HRT and trying to look like a girl so I worry about my dating future. Have you had a lot of trouble or have you gotten some dates?

>>43919594
>>43919625
>Forgive me if this is tone-deaf since I haven't dated since I was cis, but is this a problem as long as the person loves and appreciates you for your features instead of seeing you as a fetish to keep on the dl?
I wanna say this is like, the best take on this I've seen.

>>43919682
but still sitting with the masculine social gender role in pretty much every aspect of my life kind of rules out getting with most cis or trans women who would identify as lesbians or be attracted to/comfortable with women specifically rather than some genderfuck nightmare like me with a masculine voice and identity

I mean, idk. You said that your face and body is relatively feminized. I think butchfemme relationships are lovely, actually. Trans or cis, doesn't really matter.

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>>43911736
>give us your f chaser experiences
My first gf (met before trooning out) was one, her "type" seemed to be shy nerdy reppers she would date between bouts of nymphomaniacally fucking everything that moves.

Can't recommend, makes me get what religious people are talking about when they discuss demons. I don't think I'd date a cis woman again, I want to throw up even thinking of the sex.

>>43919625
>NEED
most 'trutrans' and most cis femboys wouldn't be able to withstand our arrangement, desu.
we basically planned this out. first we have the kids, then i start E and if it all works out too good (as in i can actually pass), i troon out when the youngest is 16 (to avoid legal troubles). the average tranny is rarely able to do this.

>>43919482
so she doesn't treat you as a woman

>>43920342
How didn't she treat me like a woman? because she couldn't afford to buy me flowers?

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>>43911736
my gf of almost 2 years is cis. she had 1 (one) boyfriend before being with me but she was only with him for like 2 months so he's like worthless. she said she's had crushes on girls since she was a kid and i believe her.
we fuck piv most of the time and shes like a nympho who loves my body and wants to do it 3 times a day. has a great ass and is very pretty and very good at riding me :)
her parents are homophobic transvestigating stock traders? so no coming out to them at least until she's financially independent.
we lesbian pair bonded hard and are planning to get married eventually. we understand each other better every day. i couldn't ask for a better girlfriend. c4t for life!!!

>>43920377
>shes like a nympho who loves my body and wants to do it 3 times a day
cute, but this will be a problem if you get on E

>>43920377
giwtwm

>>43920397
skill issue

>>43920377
>we fuck piv most of the time and shes like a nympho
run run run

>>43920463
>skill issue
yes and no. i'm >>43919897 so i know and understand the skill part.
however, it's ridiculous to think you can bone a cisf three times a day for 3 weeks/mo every month after 10+ years on hrt.

>>43920556
i'm 10+ years on hrt and could do this

>>43920556
>it's ridiculous to think you can bone a cisf three times a day for 3 weeks/mo every month after 10+ years on hrt.
after 6 years my libido has certainly gone down and I don't cum anything anymore, but I could still definitely keep up with this

>>43920578
>>43920633
no, you couldn't.
there's only so much cialis you can take and so much t-cream and so many exercises to keep your dick functional for such a task.
you can definitely do piv 4-5 times a week even 20+ years on hrt (provided you maintain overall health) but you simply can't keep up with a genuine nympho. you're just as ridiculous as the guys who think they could win a fight against a grizzly.
>I don't cum anything anymore
based

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>>43920735
>there's only so much cialis you can take and so much t-cream and so many exercises to keep your dick functional for such a task.
>implying I would need any of this
lol
lmao

my dick has definitely atrophied a bit and doesn't get quite as hard anymore but the biggest problem I'd have is actually getting to orgasm, sometimes that's just way harder now, like getting it up when I'm aroused is not an issue

however, I get your disbelief since this can vary for everyone

>>43920735
I don't need pills or creams, I still get morning wood after a decade on hrt and post-orchi, I am god's strongest pivhon.

>>43920363
yeah. she would do it if she treated you as a woman but you're just a safe boy for her. enjoy your life

>>43920821
>can't read

>>43920805
no you dont lol

>>43920821
retard chan ily

tfw a girl hasn't gotten me flowers since I was in grippy sock jail as a teen

>>43920821
Other anons have said it but take care to read, sillyhead.

Anyways, I never bought her flowers either, she was never a safe boy for me, shit happens, if we ever got to the point where we were able to move in together that would've changed

>>43920852
Whatever you gotta tell yourself i guess

>>43919727
>I mean, idk. You said that your face and body is relatively feminized. I think butchfemme relationships are lovely, actually. Trans or cis, doesn't really matter.
big emphasis on the relatively, especially the face :^)
still I appreciate the perspective, and I think strict adherence to all these labels and stuff is pretty gay (derogatory)

Trans girls are really cute
My gf is a cute pale brunette tranny with an adorable little voice and the personality of a small animal and a tiny little prick
Trannies are really adorable my bitch wife even got all flustered and tried to take my phone as I was typing this

>>43920902
>strict adherence to all these labels and stuff is pretty gay (derogatory)
trvke

Female chasers exist and I’m going to marry one.

>>43920902
I mean, it is what it is. Maybe I'm too woke and I know some chuds will have smth to say but I still think you'd be valid as a lesbian honestly.

>>43920947
Based.

>>43921033
I want you to know that I had you in mind when I posted that.

>>43921235
Did you really, nona...

>>43921602
Yeah, I did. From our limited interactions so far I think I would be happy to be married to someone like you.

>>43915260
Erm I used to while underage for opiates yes but im still more of a woman then you cause I have proper etiquette and dont act on gross male urges like yall agp freaks do. U can still have them just train urself to like men or trannies instead

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>>43921815
That's so cute wtf... When are we going to get married?

>>43921922
How about this time next year? Early summer is the best time for a wedding in my opinion. Would you prefer a local or destination wedding?

>>43922075
I've always thought it'd be cute to have a very small family wedding somewhere nice. It can still be local, even just out in the woods, or somewhere else that's pretty.

i wanna forcefem a shy nerdy boy into a submissive ditzy bimbo. if i werent broke i'd pay for bbl and srs too

>>43911736
yes, hello, hi
i have been a chaser basically since i developed a sexuality. i consider myself bi, and i have dated cis men and cis women, but i am mainly attracted to trans women.
as for why, i think clocky features are really cute, and i love trans girls' voices once they've voice trained. also the autism is definitely a plus. genuinely i see trans women as any other women, but i find those features extremely endearing. my first (cis) gf was kind of androgynous and had a husky voice that i adored, so maybe that just imprinted on me.
i'm currently dating a trans woman and i love her very much. she will never know of my chaser tendencies but desu with her, it is such a small part of the attraction. i would be absolutely smitten with her regardless of her gender.
and since everyone is wondering, when we have sex, we don't do piv. i don't really know her thoughts on it bc we're still in the early stages, if she wanted to i would be (admittedly) kind of excited. i do love her tho so if it was something she never wanted I'd be fine with it too. anyways thoughts /tttt/? is my love pure or should i kill myself on the front steps of her home to preserve her honor?

>>43922084
>small family wedding
Can you read minds…? I think I know a good venue ran by a family friend. It’s a historic farm with a converted barn situated a ways into the forest. It’s quiet, and very pretty with the lights turned on at night.

>>43922154
>piv
>i would be (admittedly) kind of excited
>should i kill myself on the front steps of her home to preserve her honor?
you know the answer

>>43911736
Yes but they all want to see you get topped by big hairy men

>>43922235
That sounds so perfect.. I think that kind of wedding would be more than ideal. I've never really needed fancy things, just to share a special moment with the one that I love, guh..

>>43918918
Women love non-threatening boys!

>>43922288
most of them want to be the big hairy man topping you deep down

i’m a repper and i wish they were real and somebody could like me in all gender forms but unfortunately they’re a myth 8(

>>43922142
jesus

>>43922367
I enjoyed talking with you today nona. I’m going to bed with the wedding in mind, for some reason I feel really calm when thinking about it…

>>43922529
Don't leave me, nona.... I'll miss you forever. I hope you sleep well...

>>43922577
So cute… I’m not just gonna disappear… zzz

>>43922611
But what if I'll never see you again nona...

>>43919482
>she was homeless
nooooo why ; _ ; doomed yuri baka, was it impossible for you to help or meet her? is she ok now?

>>43922620
https://tmptext.link/#/C8R7
Here’s my Discord if you want to add me.. I am for real about to pass out though …. zzzzz

>>43922671
idk the pin </3

>>43922662
Also it was pretty difficult, yeah. We were trying for a while.
I was already helping as much as I could, donating portions of my paycheck to help her and her mom stay in the place they were at. I have no clue if she's okay now ): things ended really badly, we still talk sometimes, as far as I know she moved back in with her grandparents, which was not ideal because she'd rather have been homeless, but she's managing I think, and her mom is in a homeless shelter.

I still paid for her years supply of HRT after everything went rlly sour, so I don't know much more than was offered up to me in that chat, but as far as I know everything is okay with her nona.

>>43922681
Aww, very sweet of u. I can't dream of cisf chasers because I'm too moided but I wish u to find a new tran that matches ur autism

>>43920397
why do you assume i'm not? i've been on e since 2023 and my dick works fine if i use it. if i don't use it for a week it starts hurting though :(
>>43920483
why would i run away from my dream

im literally a passoid btw

>>43916824
>Most cis lesbians wouldn't dare touch a penis and are even repulsed by post-op trans women, I get genital preferences and all but the latter is learning towards transphobia more than anything desu.

Do we forget that cis women are allowed to have preferences? Neo vaginas look NOTHING like a real vagina, they look wrinkled and have a weird ass button because they can't have real clits. They can even GROW HAIR inside. Disgusting. The biome is so different that vulva to vulva contact can give us infections.

We do NOT have to be attracted to anyone or support anyone's delusions. Ffs can't change the underlying male skeletal structure entirely, accept it.

If YOU can have preferences WE CAN TOO

>>43916921
>the constant fixation this board has on cisf chasers is a very stark reminder of how many of you are heterosexual men who don't buy their own bullshit about transsexuality
TRUTH NVKE. THIS IS THE FUCKING TRUTH. They say they are real women but they don't even date each other. Why, BECAUSE THEY HAVE PREFERENCES and because TRANS WOMEN ARENT WOMEN

>>43916968
But I don't think it is your partner's full time job to be your therapist.

So happy I’m also attracted to men

>>43923307
have you considered that there are many many many more cis women than trans women in the world? even excluding those who have "preferences". I would have happily dated a tranny if i could find even a single one who's gay and somewhat attractive in a 200 kilometer radius. and yet STILL there are a huge amount of t4t transbians.

>>43923334
Not in my city. They made HER and Tinder unusable. No cis lesbians use it anymore because the troons took over our spaces deadass.

>>43923334
None are attractive that is just the thing. They can pass as an ugly woman but not an attractive one. The ones you guys talk about are that Valentina chick who looks like a man without a filter and Hunter Schafer. That is a very tiny amount.

Either that or maybe they are attracted to bi women and gay men and just not homosexual women idk

>>43923338
lmao gay and trying to use tinder in 2026
i could accuse you of being a fake lesbian just for that but i won't because i'm not retarded

>>43923343
I maxed out 99 likes quickly and have 55 matches. But like so many are boring. I want a gf who is compatible with me, not just hot to me.

Plus, it seems to be all about me being conventionally attractive and not my interests. My mistake for using the apps anyway lowkey my interests are not very les and same with my degree.

Clubbing is dead, I went to a club that was supposed to have sapphics but turns out it was just gay men and troons. There was one gay girl who was staring at me but (AS IN THE ONLY GAY GIRL THERE) but she was overweight and not my type.

All that happened is I had a bunch of straight girls tell me how pretty my outfit was because they thought I was also a straight girl Femme life

>>43923343
Well, LEX was full of old people and some of the most hideous-looking creatures I've ever seen. HER is unusable because of the men on there; Hinge sucks because you have to pay to swipe now. Bumble is like that, too. Tinder is the only usable one.

>>43923342
well i'm sorry to tell you this but i have met one tranny who was attractive but our dynamic was always strictly platonic. now don't hold the fact that i don't want to fuck every woman i meet against me, because you probably think we do.
i myself am also a somewhat attractive passoid because i transitioned at 16. but if it helps you sleep at night i guess
>>43923353
that is because you are on tinder. there is a different app all the cool people use where i met my girlfriend
>>43923363
sorry to hear that, when i used hinge last i guess it was still usable. dating is rough for all of us queers, trans or not. i hope this fact can help you muster up some empathy with us troons.

Not possible, I got rape threats from troons and have a 28-year-old troon stalker in my neighbourhood. I am a teenager who just graduated. I have run out of empathy and patience for this group of people. They are too mentally incapacitated

Also, it is probably fair to say that we have different ideas about what is attractive.

>>43923388
that sucks nona i am genuinely sorry that's happened to you. I am a troon myself and still subconsciously worry any time I meet another if they have some combination of mental illness that could harm me, it's all just sad

>>43923388
rapehons unfortunately are a thing, especially of you are in america which i assume you are because of what you've said. i don't consider these people to be trans, in fact i wouldn't consider them to be human. but sometimes it might be hard to tell which tranny is normal and which one is a rapehon :(
i don't have any trans friends or even know any trannies irl (europe) but i am my own proof of there being normal, good-willed trannies in the world.
>>43923394
i wouldn't be so sure. if you really don't believe me i could send you a picture

I'm kinda surprised but not at the same time that this thread is still up

>>43923301
Well I am not educated on neo vaginas, so excuse my assumption. But phrasing it as "supporting someone's delusion" is just such an asshole thing to say sorry.

>>43923777
But it is. As sad as it is for some people, you can't. biologically become the opposite sex. Obviously, if there was a way for someone to become 100% female, XX chromosomes, etc, I would be for it. But it is not possible. The brain also functions differently from male to female, and the male skeletal frame can't be changed.

I do genuinely feel bad for some, but there seems to be an incel to trans pipeline going on rn. For some reason, men think it is easier to live as a woman when it is so much harder.

>>43923961
I really don't think this is coming from a place of good faith but I'm gonna argue with it anyway...

Even if you ultimately can't turn yourself into something identical to a cis woman, you can make yourself align more with your desired appearance and be outwardly indistinguishable if you're lucky enough... Reducing that to a delusion and invalidating the desire to fix something you see wrong with yourself is really harmful to some people psychologically... Bit of an asshole move.

This is simply a matter of phrasing, if a man rejects a woman for being unattractive it's okay, but if he outwardly keeps calling her names or alienating her it's suddenly quite a serious issue. Respect is a thing that exists regardless of your worldviews... But from your other replies you seem to be generalizing and insinuating that all trans women are inherently evil and predators. (If you're the same anon replying to these replies that is.)

Some trans people attracted to women are trying to get around to being accepted by cis lesbians because it's a validating experience to have "the person who you're trying to be more like" support you and validate you for your struggles. Some want this platonically, others prefer it romantically because it's more meaningful. I don't think there are trans women out there who downright reject other trans women, and the ones with a cis woman preference are a rarity since most are T4T for safety reasons mostly, I personally like cis women because I enjoy the sexual aspect better (having done both) and a lot of trans women in my area have personal values that are a deal breaker for me, whereas cis women don't. When you're a minority you're more likely to be deviant.

The incel to trans pipeline is a real thing, I have seen it with people, but it's a minority and it's usually less because they find it easier to be a woman but more because they want to seem "appealing" to others sexually, since society sexualizes women more.

>>43924076
There is no such thing as a transbian or you finding cis women more appealing. You know why you do? Because they are real women and you are a heterosexual male who wants PIV like every dude ever. Gtfo. Jeez, you started off so philosophical before going off base again. Also, dating someone just for validation is a piggish move

>>43924076
Your entire dating philosophy relies on treating cisgender women as transactional objects for your own psychological comfort.

>>43924128
I didn't state that it's strictly for validation but the fact someone you're trying to be like likes you back is a bonus point in feeling validated. I can see why it can be seen as a piggish move.

And yes I do like PIV, I mean if I had a vagina I'd probably still strap people? I don't see the issue with that. My girlfriend is okay with it, I'm okay with it and it's our business and nobody elses. I did also state I prefer it due to trans women being too deviant in my area... I genuinely don't like their vibe and end up either hanging out with trans men, cis women and cis men, they is my friend groups.

I'm not trying to be philosophical I genuinely just want to argue for everyone to be nice to each other but it's clear you and the other anon are coming from a place of hate so there's no real arguing to be done. I tried.

>>43924142
I dont do it for validation. I date whoever I like for who they are, some people just get a bit of a trip from it, if you want me to go on detail, my cis gf dates trans women because she prefers to be with people equally as vulnerable and unusual as her, and cis women are boring or intimidating for her... The same piggish argument can be made... It's not just a trans person thing.

>>43924153
A straight woman discovers being straight with extra steps

>>43924164
I've had that comment been made about us so many times... Neither of us see it that way and that's all that really matters, I'm not trying to impress anyone aside from her and if she says she sees me just like any other woman and that she thinks I treat her super nice and is happy and all it's good enough for me... Idrc about randoms opinions, let alone online.

That's how I think this board should behave more like but alas everyone here is super sensitive to outward judgement... Or they're busy being the ones being the outward judgement...

Ts nigga chasing trannies how about you chase some green nigguh how boug' you speed after a slew of benjamins broski how about you top an untapped market niche instead of some Jackson Perry aaah guy in a dress cracker-ass neurodivergent ass twig

Get some cabbage in yo pockets instead of shit on yo dick yunno what'i'msayin

>>43924287
you're white

>>43923961
>>43924076
not any of the anons
>there seems to be an incel to trans pipeline going on rn. For some reason, men think it is easier to live as a woman when it is so much harder
respectfully, i am an incel to tranny. i transitioned from a lonely invisible manlet to a married tranny with an active social life.
are there challenges? yes, of course. but it absolutely is easier to live as a woman for me because, for starters, i actually get to LIVE, not just exist.
less than 2 people (excluding parents) wanted to talk to me before. now i have a social circle, a better job, a husband and i get to enjoy life overall (and yes, heaven forbid that includes sexually too).

>>43924307
Happy for you, the experience of being a woman and a man is very different, one isn't superior to the other. It depends on what you're most comfortable with, and I see you found your home.

>>43924296
>One fervent supporter of the Poles was Boisrond-Tonnerre. He would come to believe that both the Poles and the Haitians shared a history of fighting against tyranny. The shared value of liberty would lead Boisrond-Tonnerre to refer to the Poles as "the white negroes of Europe".[11]

By birthright i'm infinitely less racist than any american yourself included. Nykkguuh

>>43924187
I don't say it in person to anyone or harass/confront. I am just saying my opinions online. Lol

>>43924323
not amerikkkan

>>43924316
We are thinking in terms of Western countries, not what women face in Afghanistan, Sudan, etc. We come from a place of privilege

>>43924331
I kneel except if you're german

>>43924187
If you genuinely did not care, you would not have spent the last several hours dropping paragraphs trying to philosophically justify your sex life to strangers. You try to claim that you aren't trying to impress anyone but your girlfriend, but your long-agitated response proves I hit a massive nerve

>>43924316
>one isn't superior to the other
statistically that is likely true. but individually, the experience of being a straight tranny is measurably superior

>>43922673
I’m so sorry nona that was my first time using the platform and I didn’t know it needed a pin… it’s 9296 this time. https://tmptext.link/#/35NJ

>>43911782
haha my bf says this to me all the time (:, it's so over

>>43924474
nta but a tranny wife really is the best of both worlds. it's precisely why i chased one.
the mixture between malebrain and fembrain is hot af and the right combination makes for an amazing life partner.
the journey is also fun, not just the destination. feminizing my now wife was a great experience.

>>43924342
nta but it's so funny to argue and then be like "hah, you actually responded in a meaningful way, clearly you care more than you say you do for the crime of actually responding, teehee!"

>>43924458
It's okay nona... I added you

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I believe in them

>>43924342
you're more of a man than ANYONE on this board, bean-flicker

>>43924328
That's nice then, keep it up. I might not agree but it's not the end of the world.

>>43924336
This is true, I am from a first world country after all.

>>43924342
I like discussing my own opinions and standing my own ground on them, I'm not necessarily pressed about it, I like spitting random shit when I'm bored. Dunno what part of sending paragraphs to justify my own views gave that off. Sorry if it came out aggro.

>>43924347
Eh, maybe it's where I come from but men are treated about the same as women, there's no big gender division after highschool.

>>43924670
Huh? I'm not a man, I'm a woman and not a fake one at that. I have a real vagina, boobs, xx chromosomes, oh AND A BEAN. Just like you said yourself

>>43924709
Waow, your long-agitated response proves anon hit a massive nerve

>>43924670
I'm more of a man than her faggot

>>43924724
Not a very long response. Move on

>>43924164
>"A straight woman"
>Only dated women my whole life
>Only been attracted to women my whole life
>Came out as lesbian at 11 years old
>Repulsed by men
Terf bitches will make up anything to not admit they're wrong

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>>43924781
>Terf bitches will make up anything to not admit they're wrong
Many such cases. Arguing with them is pointless, they'll just fall back on "You're a man" or "You're not a lesbian" without any actual arguments time and time again. It's just white noise to me at this point.

>>43922154
You should talk to her, including sexual stuff so you get know each other better so maybe you would find out about the piv. So what is off limit and what not

>>43924781
But has penis in vagina sex with a biological male and finds cis women boring. lol

Glad to see c4tgen is back

>>43924781
Maybe 11 yo you was wrong and you just needed a man with a developed feminine side

>>43924781
You let a man put his penis in you, by no definition of the word is that "lesbian".

>>43924076
>engaging with terfslop

>>43925818
Yeah, stupid of me ik, I just like to argue.

>>43923961
T R V T H
N V K E M

But I still want to slobber on tranny gocks and hear their masculine moans as I get them closer to climax...

>>43912392
>are they still having a drama bitchfit over there, or what?
probably
it really is proofs that henhouses need at least 1 cock to keep things from getting too stupid

>>43911736
I've had several issues with cis f chasers to the point that I've become super skittish about dating cis f people and really vibe check them before I express openness to them.

In my personal experience a lot of very vocally queer cis f women and theyfabs subconsciously have very cisheteronormative assumptions about how dating and sex work and will often subconsciously expect trans women to take on the "boy" role for them in sex, while finding trans women safer and easier to interpersonally domineer..

At this point I make it a point to tell cis f's very early that I'm a submissive bottom and I only date and sleep with switches and tops, and that I do not top and asking me to do so is a deal breaker for me.

Honestly, dating men is easier, I find far fewer of the men who are interested in me are chasers.

I'd be ok with a cisf who wanted me to top by default so long as she would get me with the strapon at least sometimes

>>43928272
same. if i dont get fucked once every 2 weeks minimum i legit go insane

>>43925854
hawt

trans girls are so cute and i love how masochistic they tend to be! i seriously adore pathetic girls

>>43930046
plsplsplsplsplsplsplsplsplsplsplspls