So what explains the weird difference between straight pooners and straight trannies?>straight trannies usually have intense internalized homophobia and it's a primary cause for their transition, they will freak out and become violent if they suspect a man they're dating/fucking may have any gay thoughts in their head>many straight pooners still identify as a lesbian and most of them are at least neutral on homosexuals, many of them end up dating lesbians who view them as womyn and this seems to not affect them at all (side note: i personally know a couple where this is the exact arrangement, pooner dating a self-identifying lesbian who hates men)>straight trannies do everything they can to remove any hint of masculinity from themselves and experience intense dysphoria, almost all of them are on HRT and get surgery (or surgeries) including SRS>pooners picrel, typically they just cut their tits off and then are satisfied. straight poons are more likely to take T but many avoid it >straight trannies suicide by 35>straight pooners (and pooners in general) detransition by 25
it's easier to be a trans woman (even if you don't pass), than to be a gay man people are really that obsessed with gender roles and trannies fit into them more
>>43917751How are you today, gincel?
All I will say on the topic is that there is a reason why mtfs outnumbered ftms for most of recorded trans historyBeing fake trans is sadly very common at this point in time especially among trans menI also feel like at least from what I see mtfs generally take the whole thing a bit more seriously
>all trans men are men!>some trans men are men, some are women!We're getting there...
Unironically its because losing female privilege is not only something that endangers health and life but actually passing as a male would destroy the soul of any pooner because of how evil women are.Imagine a pooner passes is straight and tries to get with a woman.And she sees him as 1:1 the same as a cisgender male and puts him to the exact same standard.Said pooner would explode his brains out.
>>43917731>they will freak out and become violent if they suspect a man they're dating/fucking may have any gay thoughts in their headnot true IRL. for every loud public online tranny there's 15+ quiet trannies who just live their lives quite normally.>straight trannies suicide by 35bollocks. the average age of transition is still around 30>almost all of them are on HRT and get surgery (or surgeries) including SRSwell yeah.just like pooners are heavily bothered by their tits, so was I bothered by my pp.
straight pooners are more socially accepted because theyre less hideous to look at.
>>43918584Would you date a gay man?
>>43918600I did. He dumped me when i said i want srs.My husband is technically bi but he's only been with amabs.
>>43918641Good for you. However, your existence does not negate the overwhelming amount of homophobic trannies. Just like how the existence of people born with one arm does not negate the fact that most humans are born with two arms.
>>43918500get off the fucking board
>>43917731> PicrelYou trannies are truly the gift that keeps on giving. Everytime, I think I understand how deranged you lot are, you keep going beyond.
>>43917731Daily reminder that MtTs detrans at 10x the rate of ftms.The few differences you mention that aren’t lies are explained by FtM being a real neurological condition that they’re realistic and grounded about, vs MtTs being psychotic and unstable with no neurological transsexuality.
>>43919717>Daily reminder that MtTs detrans at 10x the rate of ftms.who cares? MtF didnt even fucking exist basically until like 2010. my cousin who is now ftm was just a butch lesbian 90s-2000s. now, their life revolves around transitionFtM transition rates have risen FORTY TIMES since 2010. this is because women are more susceptible to social pressure. AMABs have always had a thing for trooning. FtMs DID NOT EXIST during ANY time of history basically except when trans stuff became mainstream
>>43919869>who cares? FtM didnt even fucking exist basically until like 2010. my cousin who is now ftm was just a butch lesbian 90s-2000s. now, their life revolves around transitionCORRECTIONFtM didnt exist until 2010 more or lessMtFs existed from civilizations inception. actusally civilization was incepted specifically so that MtFs could transition. Foids are just ruining everything by being easily manipulated retards as always
>>43919887>actusally civilization was incepted specifically so that MtFs could transitioni wish that were true, but it isn'twe still don't have a femboy state :(
>>43919869>delusional headcanonsYawnA clinic expanding is not a population rate retard
>>43919917nta but that graph is not answering the other anon's argument.while anglo-americans were fucking retards and tried to repress left-handedness, plenty of other places in the world were not. so there was a point of comparison ceteris paribus.meanwhile, the rise of pooners follows precisely the same trajectory: social media slop -> activism -> social pressure -> more pooners.there simply isn't any moment in history with so many pooners no matter how tolerant OR repressive the environment. this fact does in fact lend credence to the other anon's argument that pooning is at least in part a social contagion (even if this fact alone does not prove the other anon's thesis conclusively).i still want my femboy state though. pooners would be welcomed if they're truly malebrained.t. >>43919911
>>43919992>i still want my femboy state though. pooners would be welcomed if they're truly malebrained.no pooner is malebrained. its not real. being feminine can be learned from the internet and social behaviors that are simple to see. being a man is learned from a lifetime of being a man, it cant be learned from online tutorials or anything like that. it is learned from a life of long experiencethats why being MtF repressor is so much more crushing w its dysphoria, because this is someone who failed to latch onto male behaviors their entire lives, and now literally has 0 chance of picking them up as an adult. Women just go through phases>>43919917im not talking about one clinic im talking about the general numbers altogether
>>43919992Literally a made up headcanon with no factual or statistical basis.
>>43920032>no pooner is malebrainedneah. a few really are.i agree with you they're very VERY rare, but they do exist. less than 1 in 500 though.
theres a reason men are not complaining about FtMs "invading their spaces" too much while AFABs scream and cry over itbeing female is desireable and being male is not. Also, MtFs who succeed in being women reeeally slay it. think how all the best dress or perfume designers are men. so, AFABs take this as a threat.FtMs just come across as this goofy thing that saays "doooood" a lot and annoys everyone by being cringe as fuck>>43920046picrel and https://committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/7947/html/
>>43920117>theres a reason men are not complaining about FtMs "invading their spaces" too much while AFABs scream and cry over it>being female is desireable and being male is not.>Also, MtFs who succeed in being women reeeally slay it. think how all the best dress or perfume designers are men. so, AFABs take this as a threat.ok this was so based fuck
>>43920117>citing an LLMLmao whoops sorry, I won’t antagonize the mentally disabled.
>FtM detransitioners:>noooooooo i just cut my tits off bc of le social contagion this is so le wrong and evil ohmg trans is BS>MtF detransitioner:>Im just gona rope bc I truly wanted to be a woman but IWNMI and/or the social stigma is just too greatyou know this is how it is.. Dont lie.
>>43918404trvke. there is nothing for women to escape to becoming a man except sexual assault, its a stupid cope for them
>>43920187>>citing an LLM>expecting me to find more than 1 report about it for you from a published journali posted the link with the real info ESL, open it or don't im not wasting my time here with a retard. take it or damn leave it
>>43919992>while anglo-americans were fucking retards and tried to repress left-handednessthis was also popular in south and east asia, russia, and some parts of africa
>>43920217>I uncritically believe everything on TikTok, literal Chinese state media and then right-wing American state mediaAmazing
>>43920372No im just stating what I see from regular interactions with trans ppl or ever interacting with literally any detrans communityalso how is it right wing to say >ftm not real, mtf real; here are the facts to support this argumentwhen right wingers main target rn is MTFs anyways.The first tranny i met from this board assured me of this, a loooong time ago and i dint even beleive it at first, and I had mtf cousin so I wanted to be supportive, but this is jsut reality you see from interaction w other ppl
>>43920348>south and east asiathe Muslim and Hindu parts, yes. you can clearly see the difference today between Indonesia and Thailand when it comes to the treatment of left-handed children.That's precisely my argument: you do have (both in history and in present day) examples to the contrary to study as ceteris paribus and isolate the culprit: which is ideology/brainworms/culture.The same is not true for pooners.>russiaheh, interesting example. in the russian empire, being left handed was irrelevant in turkistan, a sign of artsy talented people in peterburg/moskva and repressed in the pravoslavnic/orthodox parts. then the ussr happened and forced uniformization on everyone. and today being left-handed is positive coded, lel.once again, russia is an example in favor of my thesis - namely that you can compare even within the same culture.now name a time and place in history before 2010 that had so many pooners like the most shitlib places in burgerland.
>>43920415>detrans communityThis is just cishet people LARPing online.
>>43920488>This is just cishet people LARPing online.I know thats what I'm saying. 99.9% of FtMs are just cishet ppl who got caught in a cycle of LARPing online
>>43917731>>straight pooners (and pooners in general) detransition by 25by 18* FTFY, they ALL depoon right after highschool and get married 4-5 years later
poone4rs get so horribly btfo in every fucking thread that I actually am beginning to feel bad tbri have NEVER seen a thread where a pooner won an argument lmao
>>43921445They win every time, you’re just wildly delusional.
>>43921455where and unironically
>>43919717its desistersnot detrasitioners
>>43918404>there is a reason why mtfs outnumbered ftms for most of recorded trans historybecause girls who wanted to be men would have to go back to the kitchen are bare their husband's 14th offspring? I think there's a much more relevant reason why societies that accepted only mtfs, or both mtfs and ftms existed but those that only accepted ftms were basically unheard of, but this board is too much of an afab-hating circlejerk to want to hear it
>>43922193Is it that 99.999% of ftms are undocumented because the difference in ease of passing and how the world is means that ftm for most of time has meant “female that goes undercover as male and defends that from ever being found out by anyone at all costs”?
>you have internalised homophobia reeeeeeeDo something about it bitch, estrogen goes brrrrrrrr
Hussies are princesses and fuck all of you freaks trying to neg them
