so im 24 at this point, and consider myself pretty progressive when it comes to my stances on trans women. i think GAC should be a right, i think trans kids should be protected, all the shitlib stuff. that said, i have always found it really funny when certain trans women get fucked with online. something about it, some schadenfreude aspect that just gives me great joy that never really applies in the same way when cis women are getting fucked with.ive done some soul searching to try to sort out the cognitive dissonance i experience here, because how can i call myself an ally when i revel in seeing trans women being bullied? after doing some thinking, i now think i understand the common thread: all the trans women i find it fun to laugh at are ugly as shit.there are cases where passing trans women get fucked with, and that never really has appealed to me. but think about people like CWC, or the person in the picture, thats always hilarious. and i think this extends to cis people as well, like how boogie2988 is really funny to laugh at cuz hes fat and retarded.this probably makes me a bad person, objectively. i realize that and am at peace with that. but i think its interesting how my allyship only extends to a certain point of how you physically look, and past that point i no longer find myself caring about your wellbeing and in fact find it amusing when you are being fucked with.any other anons have this experience?
this isn't interesting at all. this is just every man on the planet
>>43920450you're a garden variety misandrist
>>43920450anon discovers lookismthe question is, do you not feel the same way when an ugly cis woman gets fucked with?
>>43920450imagine the braps
>>43920495what makes you say misandrist and not misogynist>>43920498I can’t really think of any examples of famous ugly cis women who get fucked with honestly
>>43920450Yes, transphobia is derived from lookism. It's part of why transphobes want to ban HRT care. They want trannies to be ugly and more hateable.
>>43920530I always thought when republicans were talking about trans people it was just this sort of unseen looming “trans menace” and never like, an actual person being pictured. maybe that’s naive of me though
>>43920450For me it's that as a "quiet autist" who is fairly high functioning, I've had to spend much of my life in rooms with motherfuckers like that yelling cringe spergisms at 7,000dB and stinking like fucking garbage. The ones with no self awareness or shame, blissfully unaware that the whole room is annoyed with and repulsed by them. They have been ruining it for the rest of us since I can remember. And NOW these ugly moidly sons of bitches they think they look like cute anime grills and won't stop talking about it with everyone? Aaaaaaaaaggggghhhhhhh i hate them i hate them i hate themNormal trans women are great, no complaints.
>>43920588see thats the thing though, what youre talking about is based on some experience with peoples cognitive ability from like special education or something. i know nothing about the girl in the picture and how she functions mentally, i just know shes ugly and fat as shit so therefore i find her existence funny.
>>43920475you're insane if you think women aren't just as bad if not worse about basing a person's worth on their physical appearance
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>>43920747:(
>>43920701you think women like passing/attractive trannies?
>>43920763women hate all trannies no matter what id think the TERF movement wouldve made that clearbesides even ignoring trannys think about the whole Flirting VS Harassment thing and how many real life examples of it there are
>>43920763fag hags do
>>43920530i feel your intended point is right but you unintentionally phrased it in a way that makes it wronglookism is the pretext, not the underlying reason for existence. lookism lacks real grounding in societal structures, it's just most efficient at depicting someone as the evil deviant/other. so transphobia isn't derived from lookism, nothing is. same reason a racist comic from the 19th century depicting the negro as an ugly caricature isn't derived from lookismtransphobia is a complex issue (not in the culture war sense, in how it's formed. the former is dead simple) and ad hoc justifications are only more marketable>>43920572its naive sorry
>>43920789they like the nonpassing ones more>>43920787men only like attractive trannies, women hate them.
>>43920796nah dont apologize, i came here to have people be honest with me.what would i need to do in order to like, fix my brain to not do this anymore? i would like to be more progressive cuz i think liberation needs to include everyone, but in cases like the picrel i cant stop getting a shit eating grin every time i think of "ahah wassup tulip"
youre faketrans if youre ugly and youre trutrans if you pass I FUCKING KNOWIll be an ugly fucking hon dont even worry bro
>>43920923its not even that im trying to deny you, her, or anyone the fact that theyre trans. i just think im more likely to laugh at your misery than if you were pretty.
Pic related There’s something about the transwomen who not only do not pass but also seem to be in complete denial about it and lack all self awareness. And because of that there’s more stuff they could do but they don’t, they go about being a woman in the most manly way possible I don’t pass either, in fact the transwoman in this picture has a better hairline than I do, their fashion is on point, but it’s just not fooling anyone sweetie, I go out to queer events and stuff in girlmode but I would feel ridiculous and like a fraud if I went to work and said I was a woman and expected to be treated as such, I would feel like I was insulting the women because of how obviously not a woman I am. I guess it’s brave and all that but it’s also kinda ridiculous and tragic
>>43921025i dont even think its that deep as the person in the picrel is talking about, i dont think ugly trans women existing is like a mockery of nature. i do agree about the lack of self awareness being a factor though, because at some point like in the initial picture i posted its like, why did you think that was a good idea to publicly let loose onto the internet rather than keep to a private discord server
>>43920450>this probably makes me a bad person, objectively.i mean just by understanding this point you're better than like 70% of people and basically all garden variety liberals
>>43921092oh no the people who always try to like moralize their hating on someone when it ultimately boils down to "theyre ugly and fat" piss me off too, its like stop trying to convince yourself youre a good person when doing actions that contradict that
>>43921084> i dont think ugly trans women existing is like a mockery of natureYou could call it a divine tragic comedy, a paradox, man wants what he inherently cannot have, to pursue and be active is a masculine Yang energy, to receive and be still is feminine Yin energy, it’s like, by turning you into a metaphorical donkey endlessly chasing the carrot on a string, god is teaching you a lesson that we are immortal souls and that our bodies are temporary vessels and to not become attached to appearances and the material world and vanity. Maybe in another civilization us trannies would be shamans. They were priests of Cybele in Ancient Rome and Pakistan and India still have “Hijra”
>>43921174idk that seems too larpy, i dont really care that much at the end of the day, at least consciously.
>>43921201I mean yeah if you aren’t a tranny you wouldn’t have had to grapple with wanting to be something you fundamentally aren’t
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>>43921215i mean i guess, i didnt mean i dont get why someone would care so much when it came to their own gender identity, i more meant i dont really think about it that deeply when it comes to why i find people like Tulip funny. i dont think its cuz its some dog chasing its tail sort of deal, i think its cuz shes fat and ugly and wearing what looks like a tent and this dude in the quotes named her Tulip
>>43920450picrel is an american problem, they dont get to that size anywhere else
>>43921565europe isn't so safe
>>43920796For most of the unwashed masses it really is just lookism first. Obviously there are other issues but just like with other aspects of ableism it's all about presentability.
>>43921215They are. You just don't have the mentality to understand it
>>43921599hey i might be the masses but ill have you know i shower twice a day
>>43921599ok snoymoder
>>43921892That's probably not great for your skin unless you moisturize too.
>>43922015i dont use product every time i shower, second shower is mostly to wash gym sweat off
>>43920450I donno OP putting someone's value just in there looks is at least a little shitty, but it's also part of life. But it's a spectrum too, there's a difference in someone who got their face ate by a chimp and someone who just dosent put any effort in their selves and looks like ass. If your obese and don't wash your ass enough people arnt going to want to have sex with you as much.BUT op you did go out of your way yo make a long ass thread about this topic so your probs at least a little bit of a shitty person.
>>43920450Looks arnt everything but they are a part of the equation when picking a mate.I used to date this passoid who was totally vile person, real bad bpdemon type stuff being hot didn't really make up for her total lack of character as a person. Everyone gets old and ugly some day. I left her for a friend (now wife) who was pre HRT at the time and she would send me insults about how I downgraded and other nasty stuff. But that was no downgrade the sex was better and she was a Saint, one of the most upstanding people I ever met. Anyway my wife ended up being a total luck shit and since she works unlike my ex she was able to pay for all of her surgeries the last few years eith my help so now she mogs my ex by a landslide since my ex has been flirting with detransition on and off during this time. Also she's in her late 20s now so her prior youthful advantage is gone, now she's the chopped one.Karmas a bitch
>>43922181and everybody clapped
>>43922229Lol Yeah then Donald Trump descended and crowned me king of lgbtq's and savior of america
Hons cause transphobia, all we need to do is gatekeep more
>>43920527> I can’t really think of any examples of famous ugly cis women who get fucked with honestly…
>>43920588I know a guy like that except he didnt troon out hes just ugly fat and balding. See him at the gym a lot. Idk what is up with ts nigga because he's been on a vegan diet since age 10 and he's still fat as fuck and smells like poop.I myself am an autistic cringe weirdo but im self aware and dont talk to anyone and try to not exist as much as possible as to not offend.
