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>try to repress people's violent and sexual tendencies with brainwashing and magical thinking
>it actually has the opposite effect and makes them explode
Why are we supposed to trust Christians that they are helping the world by shoving gays in the closet when nothing else they do helps people either?
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>>43922982
Maybe stop following the Jewcucked anti-Catholic forms of Christianity that keeps spawning this dumb shit?
https://www.ncronline.org/vatican/vatican-criticizes-conversion-therapy-features-gay-catholic-testimony-historic-report
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>>43923045
all christianity is brainwashing and pro-sexual repression
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>>43923103
>t. Jew
Because the important thing is that we don't single out the zionist prots in America for the things they're actually doing and nobody else is.

Sexual morality is a good thing, the rest of us are debating what it is, not whether we should have it.
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>>43923120
all religion is sexual repression
sexual morality is a horrible thing, it makes people do awful things
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>>43923230
Consider the moral codes of BDSM clubs, where safe, sober, sane and consensual are strictly enforced and those who refuse to adhere to the rules are ostracized never to return.

Do you tar their sexual morality with the same brush? Or is there in fact a moral science that humanity is collectively starting to uncover.

If it's the latter then what does Jesus tell us about how to uncover and develop that moral code? That our sexual expression be always practiced in such a way that it does not harm others seems entirely consistent with everything else he taught, while also being consistent with LGBTQ sexual education literature.
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>>43923268
rules are never enforced perfectly
better to not have them than to risk them being used as weapons
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>>43923284
Pretty much the same point Jesus made every time the Pharisees tried to catch him out on a technicality.
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>>43923292
religion is a waste of time and actively destroys lives because people use it to impose their will upon others
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>>43923303
Yours does.
And I'm done talking to Jew.
You've failed here yet again.
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>>43922982
>Prevent someone from developing certain neural connections
>Promote the creation of certain neural connections instead
>Acktually, it was all for naught!!! You couldn't prevent anything!!
This is the bullshit that Freudians believe in.
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>>43923335
religion is organized sexual antagonism
if you tell people to be pure, then when they do impure things they will hide that and it was spiral out of control rather than teaching people NOT to ignore their impulses entirely
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>>43923345
Foot fetishists don't kill their sisters because the Church told them that jerking off to feet is contra natura, do they?
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>>43923389
what
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fuck religion
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>>43923389
I only got into christianity because it's so compatible with foot faggotry
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>>43923335
because you only repress the signifier, repressing certain signifiers while others take their place, while the signified remains unchanged
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>>43924885
gay people still act fruity even if they pretend to be straight, others still notice, and will still use it against them
assimilation is always partial and conditional

a flamer married to a woman is still obviously a flamer
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>>43924901
yeah the point is that pretending one thing is another is ultimately just a pretense, comforting maybe, but a faggot is still a faggot
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>>43924923
cont. this is a double edged sword of course, a man is still a man even if you call him a woman, the nice thing about being freudian is you can piss everyone off
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>>43924923
but people want gays to pretend not to be gay, the humiliation is part of the intent, it's not that they BELIEVE you are no longer gay, it's the control and power from restricting you from ever saying that out loud
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>>43924806
More like fetishists are chill with getting told they shouldn't proselitize their deviances.
Consider this: a woman sucking her bf's dick is sodomy. A man sucking his bf's dick is also sodomy.
Who's gonna make a thread about it on 4chan, whining about it?
>>43924885
>Pulls up semiotics to prove neurology wrong
TOPKEK.
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>>43924956
thats getting into unconscious territory, where repressed signifiers go
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You WILL worship your King and His Mother
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>>43924998
you havent posted any neurology
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>>43925002
you can talk about stuff without being so abstractive, it just dilutes the meaning to use flowery, difficult language

women force gay men to repress because they fear competition
gay men pretend to be women to try to escape this fate
most people don't believe gay men are born that way, specifically they believe feminine behavior in men can only result AFTER emulation of a real female, and men cannot be innately feminine in a non-superficial way.
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>>43925006
>you havent posted any neurology
Do you know how neurons work?
https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/articles/synaptic-pruning
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>>43925014
what's difficult for you?
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>>43925028
you cant prune away deep connections by repressing signifiers, which is what existing conversion therapy amounts to
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>>43925031
the framing that somehow this is about symbols and unconscious whatever
nah, people know what they are doing
this is about torturing gay people and hiding behind magic to deny agency
people who hate gays already hated gays before they ever figured out religion could help them get away with it, and would even if those books were never written

as long as we don't punish people who are homophobic (and ban religion), nothing will change
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>>43925048
>Keeps pulling up semiotics to prove neurology wrong
Are you serious?
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>>43925051
I'm staying objective without imputing a single motive on a vague mass of people. Because how can you say that you know it's true? I believe you know it, but this is unconscious knowledge, it is so obvious to you, but you can't prove it scientifically.
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>>43922982
This is just projecting feminists trying to “cure” masculine traits they don’t like by grooming boys into trannies onto Christians. You have mental issues about what they did to you and others but Christians are the only safe outlet for your feelings.

Being “in the closet” implies that you’re just supposed to hide gayness instead of undergo spiritual change like giving up lust and hate (like hate for TERFs) which neutralizes gay identity as an accidental effect.
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>>43925064
You haven't posted any neurology. If you can find a neurological cure for homosexuality that would be a breakthrough.
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>>43925083
trannies believe castration cures homosexuality, they are on the side of the jesus freaks
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>>43925083
>You haven't posted any neurology.
Yes, I did. See >>43925028 and >>43923335
>If you can find a neurological cure for homosexuality that would be a breakthrough.
Cure? Homosexuality is not an illness. How can there be a cure?
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pur le fet k'as fet folement
ne poez salvacium aveir
se tost me fetes mun voleir
sanz mal le poez faire et sanz blame
ço su je tis sire saint jame
tes pendanz tei estut coper
e tei meimes puis tuer
or le fai tost delivrement
par cest fet averas sauvement
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>>43922982
not everyone is destined to follow Christ, nonnie. but for those who are...
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>>43922982
we should not, in fact we should stop tolerating faith



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