>>43923513
wdym
ppl have what maybe 3 dreams a night, thats 1000 dreams a year or smth, u dont think women ever have 1 dream abt what its like having a pean0r?
the problem w/ half the trannies on this board is u think female mentality is just as restrictive as moid mentality, its literally not, women r into all kinds of shit & its totally fine, women create + consume the vast majority of erotic fiction, no one thinks every yaoi author is a secret ftm repper, nobody is waiting to revoke their woman card the moment they do smth manly the way men r conditioned to fear their man card getting revoked the moment they do smth zesty
i mean maybe u live in a place tht has those gender norms for women & if so then im sorry, but its literally just b/c ur area is culturally backwards u need to stop believing in the fembrain/moidbrain stuff
how it works is u have thoughts & theyre just thoughts, everyone has em, theyre not always explainable they dont always point to ur underlying psyche or w/e, u choose what u wanna do w/ em, we dont have enough of an understanding of the brain to just assume we can theorycraft ur deep identity from surface thoughts
theres no such thing as trutrans or faketrans theres just do u think u will be better off or worse off on hrt
my 2 cents

>>43923570
Why do you type like a retard?

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>>43923513
I mean i dont dream unless its lucid so i dont really know about the dream stuff although ive heard its just how people process life events - maybe like you processing the loss of getting erections idk...but id say like it really doesnt matter, are you happier on hrt? do you enjoy feeling and looking and acting more like a woman? does transitioning just feel better than being a man? would you want to go back to testosterone?

>>43923513
>You can't even call it AGP, it's worse, it's just GAMP moid heterosexuality.
Who cares, you're a woman now regardless of the original reason

>>43923570
tgirls trying not to overthink for one zeptosecond

>>43923570
trannybabble is so beautiful to behold

>>43923579
im communicating to u on ur level of intelligence
>>43923599
>>43923610
literally just interact w/ more cis women, u will understand how much doublethink they are capable of & u will understand that its not doublethink if it works
its like hegel in reverse, u hold contradictions in ur head, but u dont get more rational u just realise the concepts u thought were solid actually just dont hold any weight at all and u can survive w/o them

>>43923590
>are you happier on hrt?
I mean i like the smoother skin but that particular effect is something every moid would want, moids spend a shit ton of money and effort on counteracting the effects T has on skin quality even if they like other effects T has.

I also like the lack of libido but I feel like that's just a form of survivor's guilt. Like on a concious human level I feel bad about being a male gynephile because I know like all of them are abusive manipulative rapists. But if I was ignorant about that for whatever reason, either from being isolated from global society or just being more stupid, maybe I wouldn't feel so bad about it? When I first started watching porn at like age 12 I only felt bad because of catholic indoctrination, when I grew out of it my source of guilt was my concious knowledge of how women are abused in the porn industry, the guilt always came from outside sources.

>do you enjoy feeling and looking and acting more like a woman? does transitioning just feel better than being a man? would you want to go back to testosterone?

I'm still a babytroon manmoder so I don't really feel or act any different. I definitely feel better and don't plan on going back, although after what happened last night i felt a huge wave of guilt which made me question if what I'm doing is morally correct. Like maybe the terfs are right about it being the appropriation of the female body for some people, like me.

>>43923570
I'm not really seriously concerned about fembrain/moidbrain in a cultural sense. Like i have an unhealthy amount of hours in the most moidbrained videogames like paradox games and niche jrpg's and don't really think that makes me less of a woman.

I'm more concerned with the lizard brain, purely psychological/neurological side of things. Like I know that the few tranny studies there are show that only a small part of the brain is sexually dimorphic. But given how many trannies say they've dreamt about being a woman for years you'd think maybe it would happen to me even once?

Like I get that women have dreams where they're moids and vice versa but shouldn't those be the exception from the rule? A lot of people say chasers look for trannies cause they wanna live vicariously through them. But when I'm literally in the process of trooning and my lizard brain still wants me to have sex with a tranny as a man maybe the truth is the opposite?

And again I don't plan on going off E cause I'm faketrans or whatever it's just that it would be good to actually believe in the worldview that validates my life altering decision and not in the one that makes it sound unreasonable and fetishistic

I am post srs and have been on hrt for 20+ years and almost always dream im a man with penis

Don't think too much about dreams

>>43923590
small penis humiliation pride flag

>>43923513
Being transgender is a social contagion, it isn't a biological state or a genetic condition.

>>43923711
theres no such thing as lizardbrain in the way tht u are imagining it, if ur hindbrain was capable of longterm integrated thoughts then ur frontal cortex wouldnt be necessary
u have memories of getting hard & cooming & thats sufficient reason to have a dream abt it, it doesnt need more explanation & it doesnt mean anything more

>>43923513
>What actual real woman, cis or trans (not counting FtM reppers) imagines herself as a man in a completely involuntary wet dream? Or any dream at all?
I (cis woman) dreamed myself as a man having sex exactly one time. I loved it, it was one of my favorite dreams ever. I wrote it down so I would always remember all the details, but unfortunately it was on an old laptop that I don’t have access to anymore. But I’m also AAP so take that as you will.
Basically, dreams are dreams. Don’t let them dictate your life.

>>43923513
you are a cis man on hrt

>>43923951
I did say not counting FtM reppers

>>43923513
what’s a wet dream feel like ive never had one

>>43923966
Honest question, what would you recommend I should do if you're correct? I don't want to detroon in 30 years and become an (even more) mentally ill grifter. And even though I don't think this means I'm a troon (like I already said), I do like not wanting to fuck women 24/7.

Most people here will say just keep taking E and don't be retarded but I want to hear all the sides out

>>43924003
I've had them before E too though not very often since i just satisfied my libido with masturbation. The common denominator is that you wake up when you cum in the dream and you cum irl around the same time. Also the body is kinda prepared for you to cum so during the dream you're kinda in a half concious state where your eyes are open but your body is still paralyzed and you can't really process that you're about to cum in your pants before it happens. All in all they're overrated though again that may just be because I've always felt guilty about them just as much as with porn and masturbation

>>43924024
The longer you stay on hrt the harder it will be to quit. If you have any doubts now is the time to experiment with detransition and being a normal guy. I quit hrt after my first month only to start again a few months later and I never wanted to stop since.

>>43923513
I had my first wet dream after 3 months on hrt, where I got raped by my ex who pooned out (she's a cis woman irl, but she does have a pooner phenotype)

>>43923513
>How am I supposed to believe I'm not just an incel transmaxxer?
what's wrong with being an incel transmaxxer?
i trooned from a lonely manlet to a relatively cute married tranny with an active social life. 10/10 would do it again.
>What actual real woman, cis or trans (not counting FtM reppers) imagines herself as a man in a completely involuntary wet dream? Or any dream at all?
you'd be surprised. what you really need is real life cisf friends to confide to and emulate.
dreams are not real, nona. and don't matter at all.
and stop being constricted by brainwormed labels and the opinions of anons online or crazy ideologues who don't know you and don't give a shit about you (and most of them will hate you too if you make it).

>>43923513
you had a wet dream they dont make sense who cares

>>43924275
>what's wrong with being an incel transmaxxer?
It just feels kinda disingenuous. Like in my position as a lonely, norwood 2 rapidly approaching 3, 168cm, 0 muscle mass manlet obviously I would be more attractive and happier as a woman. But I know there are neverpassing gigahons who already knew when they were in the womb and were tortured during their youth who still continue to transition because their dysphoria is just that intense. Meanwhile my only real female friend was in kindergarten and I spent my puberty being a bitter antisocial chud.

My cope is that the only reason i used to hang around incel - adjacent spaces (not the super retarded ones like incel.is but a lot of blackpill stuff on reddit) was a combination of performative masculinity and feeling jealous of women but not wanting to admit I'm a troon (since at that point my exposure to trans women was reddit sneeds and models/porn actresses who I just assumed could look like that because they were rich and did 1 million surgeries which is partly true).

I only trooned out when the guilt from being addicted to porn of an opressed minority + being a gynephilic moid in general which is innately sinful became too much.

I know the world runs on lookism and if I were to actually stealth pass in the future people would treat me like a normal woman unless I were to say something extraordinarily moidly. I just don't know if I'll be comfortable with essentially lying to their faces every day.

>what you really need is real life cisf friends to confide to and emulate.
Another symptom of the aformentioned inceldom is that I am genuinely scared of women, ever since I hit puberty I've always seen them as superior and I'm still afraid of them seeing me as dangerous and/or unintelligent. This is probably the most moid way to think and I'm deeply ashamed of it as well

>>43924397
>It just feels kinda disingenuous
who cares?
the world is not fair, my friend. you already know this but you refuse to accept it. the faster you accept it, the better your life will be.
>gynephilic
this will be a disadvantage though. look into ways to become at least meta-attracted. i'm not joking at all.
regardless of whether you end up passing or not, being even a little bit into men vastly improves your overall life.
>if I were to actually stealth pass in the future people would treat me like a normal woman unless I were to say something extraordinarily moidly
this is culture dependent.
in my country women don't give af that much and i've found out that it is indeed true that existence as socially female is less restrictive than (most) trannies think.
>I just don't know if I'll be comfortable with essentially lying to their faces every day
heh, one of the advantages of being an incel transmaxxer is that everyone in my life except my parents didnt get to know me IRL before trooning. so i don't have to lie, just not disclose.
transmaxxing outlook also means you get to be more reasonable about expectations (something with which 'trutrans' often struggle with). i'm not beautiful and i'll never be. but i pass to cissoids and that's enough. once i get srs, i'll simply forget about all of this and... that's it.
killing your brainworms is essential because life is long and you will need a life after transition too.

>>43924459
>look into ways to become at least meta-attracted. i'm not joking at all.

My sexuality changing in the future would be the dream for me, I know prog can help with that and I'm already GAMP so primary sex characteristics are not a concern so I'm still hopeful about the meta attraction dream. I feel like even if I were to magically suddenly become a completely bioidentical XX cis woman I'd still rather be effectively asexual than actually call myself a lesbian, given that I went through male puberty.

>so i don't have to lie, just not disclose.
That makes things easier but doesn't necessarily fix the moral quandry. I'm not judging you or any other trans woman with this mindset I just don't know if that will work for me. I also have only 2 moid friends and my emotionally distant parents in my life so I'm not too concerned about people who already knew. I'm more concerned with whether or not it's okay to be openly dishonest to people. Like if I was 100% trutrans and sure of it I wouldn't feel bad about wanting to be stealth, that's not the questionable part, but since I'm pretty sure I'm just a man with survivors guilt and a fetish It'll feel undeserved to be treated like a real woman.

I'm probably overthinking it though since I'm still not certain if I'll ever get to pass in public at all. Especially given the current culture shift among gen z and gen alpha ppl, and the amount of people with TDS.