In Poland in the 18th and 19th centuries there were these precursors to FTMs called "babochłop" (girlman) who were born females but referred to with male pronouns and adjectives, were renowned for their physical strength and held jobs typical of men. Most of the documentation of this was destroyed in Nazi book burnings.
>>43929514Yeah Eastern Europe had a lot of stuff like that, sworn virgins etc
>>43929894thinking of it I know a disproportionally large amount of slavic pooners vs troons online. Is eastern europe the pooner holy land?
>>43931134pooners also seem weirdly drawn to slavic cultures including poland
>>43931188been hyperfocused on Yugoslavia because of my grandfather since I was a child, though I've never seen other tranners talk about it
>>43929514Kurwa weź no nie rób ich w konia tak nie jesteśmy europejską japonią kurwa
>>43931188Every 6 hours of daytime, poons bow their heads towards Kraków and queef
>>43929514>>43931134ya, there was a jewish trans man in the 1910's who transitioned in the ukrainian shtetls. there must be something in the air that turns more women into men than the other way around, no clue what though. maybe it is the harshness of existence >t. slavic tranny
>>43931188not really? been living here for a while and met only one
>>43929514>precursors to FTMsSis transgender people are older than people with white skin... Ftms have been existed
>>43929514>precursors to ftm>babochłopDowód na to że truny zawsze bedą trzeciopłciowymi dziwolągami dla normalnych ludzi
>>43931188Poonland
>>43933116Real>>43931134Yes, even one of the better top surgeons is there so it’s like making a pilgrimage to mecca for us
>>43929514Wait until you hear about the 5D gender chess Africa was on precolonization
>>43929514Fascinating. In the anglosphere we had the same development but with "mannish women" in the mid 1800s
pierdolisz glupoty
>>43931325kekd
>>43931438>pickompfyI wish I had my own placeand healthand a social lifeand a romantic oneand being 15y younger
I sense thorny is here
>>43929514Are you that weird Canadian?
>>43929514Poland didn't even exist in the 19th century
>>43933286>better top surgeonsIf you mean Lembas gtfo
>>43929514When I was pre T a lot of people called me that. Even some of my family. If true, I had no idea that this word had a origin like that.
>>43929514Wouldn't that translate to hagman? Or hagguy. Like an "old hag". "Baba" doesn't really mean "girl".
>>43938278Yeah well it's not like they were nice about it.
There was an ftm nazi SS officer btw
>>43939911Sauce?
>>43929514That’s incredibly interesting, are there any Polish sources or books on this still left or is it more of a cultural word-by-mouth thing?>>43939911Are you talking about Violette Morris?
>>43929514Proofs?
>>43943075Bump
>>43929514Jak w Polsce mieszkałem, to ani jednego poonera nie widziałem, a w Anglii znam wielu. Jak już to jakieś tombojki. Tak czy inaczej, babochłopy to takie wąsate stare baby raczej niż poonersi chyba?
>>43936642There was still polish language and polish culture under occupation. The fact that people paid taxes to russian monarchy doesn't mean that they thought of themselves as russians
>>43938278not really
>>43947868Sure, but it makes the entire story completely implausible. Why would three different administrations tolerate this behavior, but only in the occupied territory and not in their core states.
>>43948023Pre 20th-century states didn't have the administrative capacity to police behaviour that closely for the most part (ESPECIALLY outside their core states), it was simply outside the scope of the state back then, even if the administration wanted to police that, it wouldn't have resources to do so.
klasyczna polska wygrananiech bóg ma wszystkie truny w opiece, amen