/lesgen/ is the lesbian general for all homosexual cis women and trans women.Discuss women loving women & have fun!QOTT>Would you ever date or sleep with a bald woman?>What is your opinion on bald?>What would you do if you woke up and your hairline was receding?>Should bald people shave the entire scalp clean or rock the benjamin franklin look? previous thread: >>43928477discord: https://discord.gg/YY2fqphPra
>Would you ever date or sleep with a bald woman?ehh....>What is your opinion on bald?ehhhh....>What would you do if you woke up and your hairline was receding?It already did enough and I came to terms with it since I can't do too much>Should bald people shave the entire scalp clean or rock the benjamin franklin look? Wtv they want.
>>43936370Second
>>43936353i would accept apologia for the basis of the modern capitalist system instead, if you prefer :)
>>43936370>Would you ever date or sleep with a bald woman?only fully bald, no half-measures>What is your opinion on bald?tell my wife i said "hello">What would you do if you woke up and your hairline was receding?meteor>Should bald people shave the entire scalp clean or rock the benjamin franklin look? whatever they like, the world needs more weirdness
>>43936403Sure: unprecedented global prosperity, life expectancy and peace compared to literally any previous point in history, by far. Even despite the recent uptick in warfare / wealth destruction caused by revanchist autocratic shitholes agitating to get got again AND burgerland's national suicide.
>>43936492>Sure: unprecedented global prosperity, life expectancy and peace compared to literally any previous point in history, by far.and as to the atrocities committed by capitalist nations and their militaries?
>>43936501Near-universally covered and later condemned by the very offending states, or at the very least the free press therein. Unlike literally every commie shithole and associated atrocity.
>>43936534>Near-universally covered and later condemned by the very offending statesand then repeated while also funding and arming proxies and vassals
>Would you ever date or sleep with a bald woman?yeah>What is your opinion on bald?I'm a huge fan>What would you do if you woke up and your hairline was receding?Get on minoxidil asap>Should bald people shave the entire scalp clean or rock the benjamin franklin look?We need more ben franklin moders in this world
>>43936353Yeah but capitalism has existed for longer and it hasn't had one singular hegemon for its entire existence. Communism, or "communism", has, thus shaping all other countries that call themselves "communist". We have only seen one form of so-called communism, we have yet to see if any others could work.
>>43936370> Would I date a bald womanIf she wears a wig, yeah, if she intends to present as bald, probably not.> What is your opinion on baldcrickets> What would you doI'd be in denial for several months, before finally asking a doctor about it, being prescribed minoxidil, not using it, getting worse, asking another doctor about it a year later, and finally using it. > Should bald people shaveTheir body, their choioce
capitalism is a wealth cargo cult
Really ugly gen
>>43936620cargo cult..?chaplain to brig
>>43936542>proxies and vassalsOh, you're one of those. Yikes babe.>>43936605Okay? And I'm supposed to entertain that wild hypothetical at the expense of something that already works? Good luck to these fictional nu-commies, once they have a functioning enviable state that outperforms liberal democracies on indices of freedom, prosperity and security I'll spend my time giving a shit.>>43936620Capitalism is why you have internet hoe.
>>43936370GIRLBALD!!!
>>43936673When did I say you're "supposed to entertain that wild hypothetical at the expense of something that already works?"I was literally just rebutting your argument in itself, I have no other horse in this race.
tfw no flat chested tomboy communist piv cisgf >>43936671kek>>43936673>Oh, you're one of those. Yikes babe.i accept your concession>Capitalism is why you have internet hoe.actually it's because of inquisitive computer scientists and furries
My only current goal in life is to get asap into a loving (and awesome) relationship with a bratty and masochistic cisfchaser
>>43936673https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2430906/
>>43936696> kekI wondered if anyone would get it XD
what do you guys honestly think of mtf lesbians?
>>43936673i wonder why the person obsessed with war machines would be pro war
>>43936735idk bro sounds sus to me
>>43936735I honestly love them
>>43936696The only thing I concede is that we should have gone ahead with Operation Unthinkable. <3
>>43936750She always does this btw actual waste of time to argue with her idk why you all are doing that. She's the queen of sidestepping or just going "Yikes erm babes babypie honeyboo (totally not passive aggressive) you're wrong. Kind of a bad look for you, embarrassingg~" Lmfao deeply useless discussion
>>43936703Yeah… this would fix me (dead serious)
>>43936750>capitalists have always done nothing wrong and committed no atrocities, but they should havereally making me think, nona
>>43936739I can't help it! I had a teenage tomboy phase where I wanted to be a fighter pilot. You're basically invalidating my identity babe, that's super mean. :(>>43936771There's only so much I can do in good faith against stale campist slopulism, at some point you hoes just have to be memed on tbdesu.>>43936786I never claimed the first part.100% on the second part tho.
>>43936840>There's only so much I can doAnd arguing for your position is not one of them you're pretty awful at that as anyone here will attest to lmfao
Surviving is winning. Everything else is bullshit. Fairytales spun by people afraid to look life in the eye. Do whatever it takes. Survive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qk17pcwDAAQ
>>43936910Survive by buying me more treats and Japan trip!!!
>>43936910My ex did 2 hits when she was younger, she was the most lifeloving person I've ever met. No one wanted to stay alive and well more than she did
Its the duty of the strong to protect the weak
>>43936905What's there to argue about? Your ideology died when you lost the cold war, the fact that I'm even humoring you is a testament to my boredom more than anything.
If communism is so good why do they need fences to keep people IN?
>>43937083please trip so we can filter your survivorship slop noise
>>43937105She's growing on me. I used to get really annoyed and argue with tankies on the internet when I was younger. It made me feel so alone in malebrained. It's refreshing to see a cis woman who also hasn't fallen for the tankie propaganda. I didn't know women were allowed to do that.
>>43937078I can't find it but there was this furry drawing where he has a 2 handed sword and then there is this furry woman behind him and he goes "hang on kitten, things are about to get a little crazy..."
>>43936987Yes dear
>>43937103https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/openness-russia-and-eastern-europe-intelligence/2022-05-11/secret-war-germany-ciashttps://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2430906/
>>43937236I don't know how to read academic articles. I went to community college, I'm blue collar, I drive a truck and smoke Marlboro Black 300s, you have to use Common Sense™ so a tradie like me can understand
>>43936840u know what else is super mean?all the stuff that u like but hey, as long as its not your problemidk why i bother arguing with people who chose to be psychopaths desu, even office wasnt this bad
>>43937103if communism is so bad why has 50 years of US hegemon trade and shipping embargoes not only failed to destroy Cuba but allowed it to produce some of the highest quality healthcare science and practitioners in the world?
Here is my question to foids: If communism required mandatory sex and relationships with men would you still support it?
here is my question to women:please have sex with me i am begging you
>>43937276Cigars
>>43937316no wonder they're illegal
>>43937295I would kill myself before fucking a dysgenic male lol. There are even female tortoises who throws themselves off of cliffs just because they don’t want to mate with the males.Maybe all the trannies can have sex with men like how they want since they’ll be the major available options.
Yall are telling me the little doo hickeys next to the words lead to more reading?!?
>>43937320There's a region in Cuba called the Vuelta Abajo which produces the most flavorful tobacco in the world. It's a godsend for the state-owned tobacco company. Even still, among cigar enthusiasts Cuban cigars are known for a lack of consistent manufacturing quality because the workers don't really care
>>43937323Sorry
>>43937276I don't think having good doctors justifies being an authoritarian shithole that treats their working class like pigs
My question to women: Are you my girlfriend? I would like to kiss my girlfriend right about now, I love her very much and she is a woman so there's a lot of confusion to be had here
>>43937379but enough about the US
I'm still waiting for a Common Sense™ explanation why communism needs guards and walls to keep people inside
>>43937422Oh you were serious about that? I thought you were doing a bit lmfao
>>43937441I'm profoundly deadass
>>43937275You can't tell me with a straight face that you never lowkey wanted to shlick to an airframe.
My question to foids: is a v taper an attractive trait in women to you?
>>43937457Cuckolded male kys
>>43937394I don't like the US eitherTry again
>>43937536victory by annoyance, good work
USA has fast, good healthcare. But it's expensive.
>>43937570Get Medicaid
>>43937584I'm from Canada lol
Im getting to the bottom of it lesgen
>>43937536bisexual flag?? hi visitor!
>>43937570Huh... how come Canada has a rate that's almost as good as the US for women, but a lot lower for men?
>>43937605Staying tuned.
>>43937611probably due to oil industry work in Alberta and the east coast combined with le modern male stoicism and the east coast generally being in shamblesthe Irvings are a fucking scourge
>>43936370Bonafide question but why can’t trans women just leave lesbians that don’t want them alone?I don’t care about seeing trannies in dating apps, man or woman, I just want a woman.
>>43937587God you're retarded and autistic please join maid
>>43937630Entire east coast of Canada basically lives like they're filming an episode of trailer park boys.
>>43937662I'm going to live to 100 just to make you seethe
>>4393763395% of the time it's>ewwwww trannies r gross freaks you will never be a woman lmao heterosexual male man>hey that's transphobic>stop pressuring me into a relationship they're trying to erase lesbians why am I not allowed to have preferences I'm a small bean :(
>>43937633> goes on lesgen> why are trans lesbianskeklow quality bait but I'll bite.I have no interest in pressuring anyone who doesn't want me. I want to be unconditionally loved, which is obviously not achieved like that.
>>43937457So I'm assuming you're talking about East Germany. East Germany did build the Berlin Wall in part to stop the loss of skilled workers and professionals to the West. Most historians agree that was one of its primary purposes, socialist countries as a whole did, all countries do everything they can to prevent brain drain, and during the Cold War this was a specially a threat in socialist countries because the west had various incentives to intentionally entice skilled labor from the Warsaw Pact to leave, it's not necessarily that the socialist countries were just awful for everyone living in them, in fact they punched well above their weight when it comes to pretty much all aspects of quality of life and education, but it was just never really a fair comparison to begin with. These were still poor third world countries that had been scorched the hardest by war just a few years prior, while the countries they defected to had ALWAYS been the richest, had nearly a century of a head start to industrialization, benefitted greatly from imperialism, and received billions of dollars to rebuild and further develop by aligning with the USA, which itself had the same condition of having centuries of uninterrupted peaceful development, and were extremely quick to industrialize while having no major war ravage it's own territory. Of course it would be more enticing to defect to there.
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>>43937696You know damn well it isn’t like that, you get banned pronto if you even type “no transwomen” as bio.Why can’t I filter out people that I’ll never want to date anyway without having them whine when rejected or having a literal pre-E man that asks “uwu do you also date transwomen??”.My sexuality is my own and I don’t need to explain shit to anyone. I don’t like dick no matter how it identifies it. Not wanting to fuck you is not transphobic.
>>43937719As something of a skilled worker myself I don't think I would be to pleased if I was forced to work for low wages and not allowed to leave or else I get shot
>>43937724heyy
>>43937726ok but imagine how hard it would be for other dating apps to implement "no fuccbois"
I dont know if its fair for the study to compare countries of similar economic strength instead of the more broad results. It seems like it could lead to skewing the data and also alot of the CPEs included had big private sectors in the 80s too right? .. but also i moked and got bored of reading xp
>>43937711I can ask the source directly here
By cpe I meant centrally planned economy, its sort of a technical term
>>43937726bait used to be believable
>>43937743>>43937761also monopolies and subsidies and sole-bid contracts act as a kind of de facto central planning
>>43937738
>>43937726It absolutely is like she said.Pre-medical transition trans women are also women.You don't have to be attracted to every woman, just don't claim that your non-attraction makes her a man. She's just a woman you're not attracted to. Simple.
>>43937838It gets to a certain point though
>>43937850the only solution would be to ban transwomen which is invalid because then you're banning a class of women
>>43937838>Pre-medical transition trans women are also womenThe least they could do is hop on HRT for 6 months before embarrassing trans womankind by posting themselves on lesbian dating apps. There I said it. Yeah I believe in optics. There's your license to hate me and call me transphobic forever
>>43937899nah I kinda feel like it's different when one of us says it.you're concerned about the collective well-being of trans women, she's concerned with not having to look at icky trannies
>>43937930Hey you understand me. That's exactly the wavelength I was thinking on. Appreciate that.
>>43937838>Pre-medical transition trans women are also women.nahh, i was with you until here. trans women must be in hrt 5 months minimum before they decide to trow themselves into the lesbian dating scene. longer if theyre total hons
>>43937941> t. Hema-chan:>
>>43937957there have been relationships between lesbians and "men" in which they didn't know why they felt attracted to a "man" for the only time ever and for it to later turn out she's actually a trans woman.we can't forbid individual trans women from existing in public just because they happen to be ugly
>>43937738Again it's not like the wages were low in our conception, you could still afford everything you did not have to worry about making it through the month or getting hit with an emergency medical bill. It's just that the west had greater variety of commodities, so in the Warsaw Pact they were only able to produce the same model of car, in the west they produced more than one model of car, which ultimately does not really matter for the 80% of people in capitalist countries since they could not afford any of the types of cars being sold to begin with. But it's also not like you could not leave at all, the DDR and USSR were unique in how restricted it was, countries like Yugoslavia, Poland, Hungary and Cuba were much more relaxed about this stuff, even Maoist China had greater freedom of movement if I remember correctly
>>43937957I do not second this, this is very stupid desu
>>43937986This is pretty invalidating since it implies trans women are a type of men and minimizes the drastic effects and importance of transition. A lesbian isn’t going to be attracted to someone who looks like a man. Lesbian sexuality/romance is about attraction, not vibes or soul or whatever.
>>43938014Also just also keep in mind that the DDR had a leftover nazi problem for a lot of it's existance and so for them it was more beneficial to keep those people from fleeing persecution than to let them leave and then build support abroad for these groups that consistently did sabotage and terrorism. It's by far not the sole reason for the border control but it was a factor that played a part in it too.
Currently watching squeex play clubhouse games
Who the fuck cares about this stupid conversation
>>43938050Evidently you do not speak for all lesbians when asserting this. See above. Not for all, but evidently it can be about "vibes or soul or whatever" if your "one exception" is a closeted trans woman.
>>43938120Words have definitions. A lot of bisexual women wrongly claim the lesbian label because they prefer women or for political reasons. Again, minimizing transition’s physical effects and arguing lesbians can be attracted to people who look like men is pretty yikes. Are trans women still women before transition? Yes. They also will not be attractive to lesbians until they pass as women since sexual/physical attraction is based on sex characteristics.
What the fuck is this retarded cissexual talking about bro
>>43938147Attraction doesn't work that way for everyone, whether lesbian, straight, or bisexual. For some people it really is about the "soul".
Fuck off to transbiangen again if you’re bothered by cis lesbians, bro.
loooool this is just the implied male trans women/unsuccessful transition disqualification dialogue again
>>43938176You’re just retarded
>>43938176transbiangen exists?I thought transbiangen is what clg users called this one
Lmfao lago can't go one day without spewing transphobia. I hope she doesn't take my lesbian flag away from me.
>>43938170LOL No. This is not the woke take you think it is. You must be taking the piss because no same person actually thinks this. This is the dumb shit chuds think trans people and their allies believe.
>>43938014I like having nice things tho, and being free. Not to mention having rights. I'd even go as far as to say these are pretty universal human desires, as evidenced by the fact that every commie shithole had an emigrating problem and corresponding list of atrocities committed to violently suppress it.
Not even redditors claim lesbians are attracted to pre-HRT trans women. What’s up with the concern trolling about transphobia? lmao
anywaywhere is my flat chested tomboy gf
>>43938194Classic chaser behavior if you ask me, she’d fit right in with all the chasers in cg.
>>43938197why are you being so mean to me wtf :(>>43938194much as I hate to defend someone who just hurt my feelings, she's not being transphobic, she's making a stubborn, retarded blanket statement about how everyone else's sexuality works, assuming it has to be an identical copy of hers.
Reminder: do not question lago or you will be called a moid/homophobe/pedo/racist
>>43938205emigration*Its late, I'm eepy.
I'm not into vibes or soul because I have giga rapehon visual sexuality.
Who even wants to date cis women though? They have literally nothing to offer you. That’s T4T will always be best even ST4T is good…
>>43938193Once in a while but it’s almost only ever made out of spite towards cis women these days. So it never lasts beyond a handful of threads. So the weird ass terminally online transbians that hate cis women shit up this gen and try to drive cis women out.
>>43938238It's a pattern for her. Saying everyone who disagrees with her should be segregated into /transbiangen/ is transphobic though.
Why don’t you ask your dumbass girlfriend why she was trying to push out a cis lesbian? Remember Corpo?
>>43938238You said something ignorant, so I explained why you’re wrong.
>>43938265> everyone who disagrees with her> looks inside> Who even wants to date cis women though? They have literally nothing to offer you.kek
>>43938254>it’s almost only ever made out of spite towards cis women these daysIt's made when you harass trans women like you are doing in this thread again. People are allowed to disagree with you.
>>43938176it already is desu, the cis women of this thread are just tokens desu
>>43938289Telling you that lesbians aren’t attracted to pre-HRT trans women who look like men isn’t harassing you. It’s a simple fact.
>>43938287I'm not agreeing with Tiffany. Good job acting like everyone who disagrees with lago is the same person. I'm agreeing with nona who is saying attraction works different for different people
>>43938279You said something ignorant, so I explained hwy you're wrong without being mean to you. You decided to be really aggressive to me for no reason. I'm starting to get why so many people hate you holy shit>>43938289I don't think she's harassing me because I'm trans I'm pretty sure she's harassing me because she's autistic and thinks I'm wrong and not capitulating her makes me an affront to truth itself.>>43938309hi, it's me, I'm the nona who is saying attraction works differently for different people
>>43938308That might be true for you but you have a very male-gazey way of being attracted to women, not everyone does. Some people are asexual anyway but can still be romantically attracted to women.
one week until lesbian chinese film...
Yeah my sexuality is male-gazey for sure
>>43938372And that's okay! Everyone is different! Only lago thinks there is only one way to love women.
>>43938287Why’re you booing me?I’m right
women are hot and i will not apologise
>>439383531 week? guess what else is in one week?deltarune!!
lol???Claiming lesbians can be attracted to trans women before they transition is retarded and there really isn’t much else to say. That isn’t remotely controversial.
>>43938387I hope you only find the women hot lago finds hot otherwise you will get your lesbian card revoked
>>43938400what's delta rune? is it a runescape sequel or something
>>43938372>>43938387Sorry, having a sex drive is for moids. /s
>>43938401feminine men are women
>>43938404Absolute tantrum over a strawman. >>43938417That's what they’re claiming, basically. The whole female soul shit is misogynistic at best, transphobic at worst.
>>43938400Make your choice loser
>>43938401> an objectively true statement is retarded and that's not remotely controversialkekeven if my statement was retarded (which it isn't, it's objectively true, since it only needs to apply to some lesbians and not all lesbians to be true) it wouldn't make it ok to be mean to me just because you disagree.>>439384354Crying about strawmen and attacking a strawmen in the same post is comedy gold. Go fuck yourself.
>>43938435mehanyone i want to fuck is a woman because i don't like masculinity
>>43938401lowky highkey not a hot take i would not expect a lesbian to be attracted to me while boymoding i think its delusional if you would
>>43938458I wouldn't EXPECT it either but it literally has happened in a minority of cases.
Lago be like >you can only be a lesbian if you are attracted to conventionally attractive women who look like the idea society has of what a woman is>if you are attracted to women who look too male then you are not a lesbian. unless that woman is AFAB then it's valid
>>43938437what does this even mean, trying to make me "choose sides" in some random ass drama i know nothing about nor care about i hate arguing
We're talking about pre hrt trans women but honestly I've rejected 2 cis women for not meeting the standards of my male gaze sexuality. No type of woman is spared from my wrath
>>43938453Good for you, but lesbian attraction is not attraction to femininity whether it’s in men or women. >>43938449Words have meaning. Souls don’t exist. Telling people someone can be attracted to a “woman soul” just regurgitates sexist transphobic bullshit a la Blanchard.
>>43938453Trvke
>>43938482>lesbian attraction is not attraction to femininity whether it’s in men or women
>>43938475I love how I literally never said any of this. xD
Ive seen plenty of pre hrt cds that look and act a million times more feminine then 5+ year trannies.. like myself as a good example. Does having a little gyno and some ed make it more lesbian? Idk
>>43938475She’s retarded, she got bullied in lesgen years back for this very reason.>>43938477Shut up, I’m just fucking with you.
>>43938482>Souls don’t exist>women are only their appearance and body, their mind, their personality is irrelevant Bruh
>>43938496You’re just being lazy now. :pCute image tho, stolen.>>43938502My entire point is a lesbian isn’t going to be attracted to someone who doesn’t look like a woman. By definition. People are getting butthurt about things I never said. >>43938508wtf are you even saying? lol
>>43938482How do you know souls don't exist? What if they do?That aside, even if neither of us believes in souls, we do have a mind, a consciousness, a being that inhabits our bodies.And no, the idea of a female soul wouldn't be transphobic. It's really weird that you're trying to dictate to trans women what is and isn't transphobic.
>>43938524explain how being a lesbian is anything other than being attracted to the feminine without conflating femininity with patriarchal diminutive definitions of femininity
>>43938561are lesbians who date butches straight?
>>43938524I'm saying that saying souls don't exist is retarded. You are saying that there is no way for someone to be feminine/female except for their body. You are saying it is a necessary condition to be attracted to the physical body of a female partner to be lesbian. You are denying the fact that people exist who care more about someone's personality than their body, or do not care about the body at all.Saying that what makes a woman a woman is the body is probably more transphobic than anything else. Do you think feeling any attraction to pre-op trans women makes someone less of a lesbian too?
>>43938567butches are a type of feminine
>>43938567According to lago they are, unless the butch is verifiably AFAB then it's okay
>>43938308so what about post-HRT trans women who still look like men? given that you said >>43938147>They also will not be attractive to lesbians until they pass as women
>>43938570I think she's dating a pre-op trans woman.I really don't think she's a transphobe, although I can see how you arrived at that conclusion if you just look at what she's said today.Claiming that the idea of a female soul is transphobic makes no sense, unless you think trans women's souls wouldn't be female... which is transphobic...
>>43938570Literally no one said personality doesn’t matter. You claiming someone has a “female personality” that makes a lesbian be attracted to someone who looks like a man is wrong. It’s nothing controversial. And you’re assuming all kinds of crazy shit by that simple fact. Saying there’s a female personality at all is crazy sexist shit.
>>43938581Watch her backpedal now
>>43938581Like Olive
>>43938581I don’t know how to break this to you, but obviously no lesbian will be attracted to a non-passing trans woman. People do not owe you attraction. Most trans women understand this, and it’s bizarre you’re attempting to make this into a transphobia thing. You sound like the caricature chuds accuse trans women of being.
>>43938597Someone can date a trans woman and still be transphobic. Plenty of cis male chasers are extremely transphobic.
>>43938598"a lesbian" is not necessarily a clone of you. There are many "a lesbian"s... as I have already tried to tell you above before you decided to be mean to me for saying the truth.
>>43938617>continues digging herself deeper into a holeYou’re not very smart are you?
>>43938620She has clearly asserted that trans women are women even before transitioning.She doesn't believe we're not women, she believes we're not attractive women.
>>43938617So everyone who dates a nonpassing trans woman or is a nonpassing trans woman should fuck off to transbiangen according to you? Because they can't be real lesbians? Go fuck yourself. Why don't you fuck off to cis lesbian general
>>43938617nah calm your tits bro it's just a question and I'm not trying to do any such thing, I'm just pointing out why what you're actually saying isn't what you're trying to represent it as (and that at least at a surface-level read you seem to be engaging in exactly the kind of erasure you seem to be decrying)you're setting yourself up to be trolled epic style
>>43938626No shit. But what defines lesbians is exclusive attraction to women, and you and everyone else knows damn well a person who looks indistinguishable from a cis man is not attractive to lesbians.
I want an autistic gf that is kind of like bulma from the dragon ball universe (she is mid 30s in this pic) and I beat people up who are mean to her
>>43938636What the fuck are you talking about? Are you okay??
>>43938632But she is saying that being attracted to nonpassing trans women makes you not a lesbian.>lesbians are only attracted to passing womenimplies>anyone who is attracted to nonpassing women is not a lesbianSince being a lesbian is defined as a woman loving women, she is saying that she does not see trans women who do not pass as real women. Which is transphobic imo.
Can we just exile her already and be done with it? Nobody wants her or her girlfriend here.
>>43938675It’s more of a failure of people using the correct language. I already said multiple times pre-HRT and non-passing trans women are women. Closeted. Women in when used in wlw means female. But the terms are colloquially interchangeable.
>>43938684get ready to be called a rapehon for disagreeing with them
>>43938650>a person who looks indistinguishable from a cis maninteresting, if that's the cutoff then is someone who is attracted to androgynous women (cis or trans) a lesbian, or not? say they're into a really butch cisles or an unpassing twinkhon>>43938689>non-passing trans women are women. Closeted.does not passing mean you're closeted, even if you're out or otherwise visibly trans?
>>43938636I don't think that's what she said.You being a lesbian, and lesbians being attracted to you, are not the same thing.And according to her someone who dates a non-passing trans woman is a bisexual woman appropriating the lesbian label for political reasons. This she did say.And the corollary of this idea that lesbian attraction is purely determined by bodies is that lesbians are allowed to date femboys who look exactly like women, but who are not women, apparently.>>43938650For the ten thousandth time, not all lesbians' attraction functions as an exact copy of yours!Are demisexual lesbians not lesbians?>>43938675You made a formal fallacy there. "lesbians like women" does not mean "lesbians like all women", only the latter would allow a corollary that "if lesbians don't like you, you are not a woman", but this is not what she said, in fact she said the exact opposite.
>>43938693I don’t care anymore, everything they could possibly say about me has been said in chasergen ten times more and with ten times more vitriol.
>>43938704Are you kidding me? You clearly understand that androgynous and masculine women look like women. Why on earth would you assume I’m equating people who *look like men/male* to masc or androgynous women? That’s what anon is doing. I’m arguing the opposite!
it's vitally important to invalidate trans lesbians to make cis women more comfortable
>>43938689>Women in when used in wlw means femaleI stand corrected kekI feel stupid for defending the "adult human female" now.
>>43938709Femboys don’t really look like women irl tho. So again, not something I said.
>>43938750femboy hate?
>>43937678You won't make it past 40 PEDO
>>43938766It’s a gross porn term used by gooners. Many look ugly asf irl while pretending they’re superior to trans women.
>>43938779what about you, "adult human female", are you superior to femboys?
Now you’ve just run out of things to say. :p
>>43938709>someone who dates a non-passing trans woman is a bisexual woman appropriating the lesbian label for political reasonsThis is what I meant. And does this not boil down to the statement>women who are attracted to nonpassing trans woman are not lesbianthough?>>43938709>"lesbians like women" does not mean "lesbians like all women"That's not what I meant by the definition of lesbian. I meant lesbian is defined as>a woman who loves (any subset of) womenand to be completely precise>...and is not attracted to any menBy saying that being attracted to nonpassing trans women makes you bisexual instead of a lesbian even when you feel no attraction to men, you might at first think she is saying that being attracted to nonpassing trans women is being attracted to maleness, which she thinks is not a thing lesbians do. But she does believe that being attracted to male traits is okay as a lesbian and does not make you not a lesbian. So to me that seems like she does think that a nonpassing trans woman is a man.
>>43938814you decided to just throw out a transphobic dog whistle and then start ignoring me lmaoI sat here defending you over and over from the lesbian flag nona calling you a transphobe and she was right all along... lmao
>>43938823What dog whistle?
reminder that lago and bnuy do not understand love at all thats why they are stuck in a decade long ldr situationship
>>43938838There is more than one way to love, nona.
Lago is a crypto-TERF who likes to use passoids for their bodies, we've all known this for a while now
>>43938838Literally, why are these retards talking.
>>43938840You don't love in any way. Everything you say demonstrates you have no concept of love beyond gooning. I guess it's nice to know that cis lesbians can be like that too
>>43938815While I'm no longer convinced that she isn't just an actual transphobe, the statements in question do not mean what you are saying they mean. What she's argued, in essence, is that lesbians are not attracted to women but the perception of women. Therefore, a woman who does not look like a woman is not attractive (but, though she refuses to acknowledge that this is the corollary of her own views, a man who looks like a woman is). It's identical to what straight men who are attracted to femboys argue.>>43938830 > >>43938729
>>43938842Damn, I wish I was this much of a sexy nympho seductress.
>>43938856You’re over complicating something dead simple.Lesbians are not attracted to anyone who physically looks like a man, i.e., male.
>>43938779truth nuke
>>43938867> what dog whistle> continues to refuse to acknowledge itkek. ok, "adult human female"
>>43938779During covid I used to spam the board with>despite not identifying as women femboys actually pass! until a janny gave me a week long ban. I was on hrt like 9 years at that point. I was never a femboy or attracted to them either I just trolled a lot because I was mentally ill. Later on I watched this anime that featured a femboy as one of the maids and I wanted to throw a brick at his head because he was so annoying. Overall just a very unfunny boring anime
>>43938877That phrase can include trans women, though. Sex is defined by multiple characteristics and it exists on a spectrum. Next you’re going to misconstrue what I said and claim that non-passing trans women are not female. But that’s not really something that can be easily quantified, put on a spectrum. Obviously (I really shouldn’t have to dumb things down this much on an lgbt forum), transsexual women are going to veer closer to female as they are akin to intersex people, regardless of whether they pass or not. Like I said, sex traits include more than physical attributes. There’s brain sex, genotype, hormones. Regardless, lesbian attraction is attraction between homosexual females. And as society has defined it, the attraction is physical and romantic.
>>43938856>but the perception of women. Therefore, a woman who does not look like a woman is not attractiveLago is fine with being attracted to butches though, who do not conform with what is usually perceived to be a woman. Of course we can assume she means *her attraction* and *her perception* of what a woman is, is what defines a woman and a lesbian, but no way she's really so retarded to think and admit to herself she is the ultimate arbiter of attraction to women. So she must think there is some more universal rule to it, right? But if she is okay with butches, who are by society not considered "attractive women", then there must be something about nonpassing trans women in particular that makes them not worthy of lesbian attraction.Sorry if I'm misunderstanding or not making sense, I'm a bit drunk tbhon. I've just noticed lago be transphobic in several other instances over the years so my judgement of her statements is biased by that.
>>43938919>There’s brain sexAlmost like something you could describe as a "soul" or "personality" huh>the attraction is physical and romanticSo asexuals just do not exist to you?
>>43938921It isn’t transphobic to say lesbians aren’t attracted to non-passing or pre-HRT trans women. You are showing how much or a facetious troll you are by claiming I’m transphobic by saying something that isn’t hateful or transphobic at all. lmao
>>43938944>lesbians aren’t attracted to non-passing trans womenSorry but every way I read this this just sounds transphobic. It's retarded either way.
>>43938940You realize physical isn’t synonymous with sexual?I don’t know why you’re not understanding that lesbian attraction excludes attraction to male sex characteristics. Almost every human being is attracted to their partner’s personality. You’re tacking on different things onto a sexuality/romance label. Every single time LGBT is mentioned it is in reference to sexuality and romance.
>>43938919>That phrase can include trans women, though. Sex is defined by multiple characteristics and it exists on a spectrumI was hoping you'd say that, actually. I just wasn't expecting you to, especially after ignoring it several times.> I really shouldn’t have to dumb things down this much on an lgbt forumGiven that there are transphobes all over the "lgbt forum" you absolutely do need make it clear where you stand on the assertion that "trans people change sex". You're being condescending to me as if I'm the one who doesn't know this, rather than skeptical of you and thinking that you were the one who disputed it.> Regardless, lesbian attraction is attraction between homosexual females. And as society has defined it, the attraction is physical and romantic.You still haven't answered! Are demisexual lesbians not lesbians?
>>43938958I mean, that’s more on you. Being a woman should not be defined by lesbians finding you attractive. Lesbians all have different tastes but we’re all attracted to people who look female, like women.
>>43938972>lesbian attraction excludes attraction to male sex characteristicsThis is so retarded lmao. What exactly is a "male sex characteristic"? Is having a penis a "male sex characteristic"? Is having XY chromosomes a "male sex characteristic"? Just say you're a TERF and be done with it.Women can be attracted to a woman with a big brow ridge. That does not make them less of a lesbian. Women can be attracted to a woman with a penis. That does not make them less of a lesbian. Women can be attracted to a woman with a "male" jawline. That does not make them less of a lesbian.This is so fucking retarded holy shit. You are transphobic as fuck.
non-op t4c is the only good lesbian pairing
>>43939012You’re a fucking moron.I’ve said MULTIPLE times that sex is informed by MULTIPLE characteristics. Masculinity exists in women.
>>43939029>>43938972>lesbian attraction excludes attraction to male sex characteristics
And this is why you never trust cis people ever
lol I forgot to change username from earlier on this device>>43938987I ignore a lot of the replies because a lot of you are concern trolling or I’ve already addressed it, but some of y’all can’t read.>>43939040That wasn’t very clear, yeah, but in the same posts you’ve replied to I’ve stated multiple times that sex is defined by multiple traits. It’s the aggregation as a whole I’m referring to. If someone looks male as a whole.
>>43939051It's okay to trust cis people, just avoid retards like conejo.
>>43938987Oh forgot to finish reply, even though I just answered it directly here: >>43938972Physical is not synonymous with sexual.
>>43939075Hmmmm iunno about that one chief
>>43939075Am I one of the good ones?
>>43939093w pick me farm
Can Lago even call herself a lesbian after fiending over Olive? That one had a lot of “male sex characteristics” if you know what I mean…
I physically cannot stop listening to Chopped & Screwed remixes
>>43939069>That wasn’t very clearI think it's very clear.>>43938972>I don’t know why you’re not understanding that lesbian attraction excludes attraction to male sex characteristics."Lesbian attraction excludes attraction to male sex characteristic" is very clear.>It’s the aggregation as a whole I’m referring to.So what you do is you write up two lists of "male" and "female" traits a person has and if they have too many "male" traits you determine them to be "male" and not worthy of lesbian attraction. Hmmmm. Sounds like something a specific group of transphobic individuals might do in their free time.>>43939093Yes.
00:02:09 <+Amity> bopqod: There is no nuance. God put you on His sacred land that He put his flesh and blood into. God can divinely remove you. Don't forget that.
>>43939112This is so bad faith when I’ve expressed my attraction to tomboys and butches often while identifying as a lesbian. lmao
>>43939125Thank you for confirming you are attracted to tomboys and butches but "nonpassing trans women" are somehow too male and lesbians are not allowed to be attracted to them. Explains why you also hate on boymoders so much.
>>43939151lmfao
i luv lago!!! stop!! being!!! mean!! to her!!:(((( !!!!!
Harper changing teams every other day again
>>43939102I'm a pick me at heart, trans women's validation is all I need for my self worth...
>>43939237team harlot is real everyone<3 except carl-bot
>>43939238ykw thats real asf
>>43939230why would you defend a transphobe?
>>43939268Leave Carl-bot alone, he gives us autoroles and reaction roles.
ebil mean lesbian
>>43939238yeah this one for me too i think
>>43939295>ebil mean hon daterFixed it for you <3
>>43939314wat dat mean
>>43939281i didn’t read the thread my bad… idk other transwomen are prolly transphobic too also we are second class in lago ville and i think its for the better… im lowest on the totem pole as a tall tranny in lagovile we are just seen as objects :(((
I like when people accusing me of transphobia spew transphobia. x)
>>43939333ummm idk ummm i just do what ppl want or something im not sure like im one of the cool ones i think or try to be im different like i can be picked like they will pick me i think
>>43939357Fk off rapehon
>>43939357Go to /clg/, TERF
zzzzzzz
>>43939364im gonna pretend i know what this means
Me surrounded by 6 smoking hot trans women before I eat all their asses
>>43939436bnuy coded post
Eating ass is gross
>>43939463wash your swamp ass, shrek
I've been accused of being like 5 different people man can't I just be myself
>>43939474I take a shower everyday
>>43939519you don’t look like it
>>43939516Shut up Emily
>>43939523Why? Because of a picture from 2-3 years ago?
>>43939414you didn’t like my pick bit :,(>>43939516 is it 401k anon? if not sorry for being another time getting it wrong >>43939525dis one bnuy tism
>>43939576>is it 401k anon?Yeah it is me
>>43939463I don't think it's that bad honestly, I like doing it to my gf but I'm not as rent free about it as bnuy tbf
>>43939463It's one of my favorite sex acts
>>43939463No it isn't. it's the hottest and most intimate thing you could ever do to someone. You're sticking your pretty face into an area that's so sensitive to touch and used for private waste disposal, giving that area deep, compassionate tongue kissing. And they start shaking that area all around so that you can go in deeper and deeper as you fill them up with so much lust and excitement. The highlight of my life was when I was rimming a hon for like 15 straight minutes. At that point, I felt like I only existed to make that person happy and to give the most love I can for their most unclean, intimate parts of their soul
>>43939519i can confirm i watch her shower
I actually like eating ass, I was just ragebaiting
>>43939642now THIS is bnuy
>>43939642For me I don't associate the butthole with taking dumps when I'm having sex so it helps with the mental block. But I need it to smell like perfume or something if I stick my face there
>>43939613I don’t want to hear about you and your girlfriend, sorry.
I don't know what the criteria is supposed to be tbdesu trannies who actually pass without makeup get called boymoders on here but olive is apparently a real female because lago had the hots for her
>>43939671Who is bnuy
>>43939702>I don't know what the criteria is supposed to be tbdesu>is apparently a real female because lago had the hots for herThere is your criteria. Lago decides who is female and who is male. Lago decides who is a pedo rapehon and who is a heccin wholesome wombyn.
>>43939642Saar
>>43939707lagos paypig
>>43939707Race play fetishist
>>43939719This™
>>43939702>trannies who actually pass without makeup get called boymoders on hereSomeone once posted that the difference between girlmode and boymode is saying "hello, my name is [woman's name]" if introducing yourself irl to a complete stranger. I like that definition
>>43939721Holy fuck, raceplay is my second favorite thing in the world besides rimming. We could be bffs
>>43939731
>>43939745Fuck emojis are disabled I can't vomit
>>43939745What
>>43939758>>43939757
>>43939731Sorry anon, you’re just getting troll answers. lmaoShe’s my gf and won’t shut up about eating ass, that is all. We both think raceplay is rancid.
But did she get a new pair of tights?
>>43939771Do we need the archives sir
>>43939757I already talked about the intimacy of rimming but the excitement I feel when a dark brown body rubs on my pale as snow skin as I say the most cruel, disparaging comments to them while also doing the most loving acts possible with our tongues and private parts fills me with an ecstacy that could never be found elsewhere in this world
>>43939771>We both think raceplay is rancid.now THATS a lie
>>43939792Kill yourself faggot
>>43939797It’s gross, idk what to tell you. You do you, though.
>>43939804Kys
>>43939803I will, but I wanna at least practice with one more brown slave or two before I go
Fascinating insight, Kaylee.
>>43939730How would you know what name somebody uses irl? You guys just make these assumptions based on which thread personality you want to fuck.
>>43939697rude much?
>>43939824You insults are lower quality than bread infested with ants and black mold
>>43939846It was kinda rude, but I’m just being honest. I could go without hearing about how a Theyfab tongues her tranny girlfriends fartbox or pretty much anything she has to say for the most part…
>tiffany mad she has the least sex out of anyone here
>>43939875wow so heartless
>>43939875Some of us would love to hear about it though, especially a rimming fetishist such as I.
>>43939881lmao
>>43939881I am, I’m bitter.
>>43939897incel behavior
She right though
New >>43939906
>>43939905I literally am, it’s in my description on Instagram.
