something that terfs are definitely right about is the fact that sex based oppression exists and is rampant in our society. like it’s just non-negotiable and to see so many mtfs deny this up and down and start pissing their pants over it is crazy. afabs are inherently oppressed simply for being female in a way that males will never truly experience no matter what cope you pull out of your neovag.
>>43939048this is nonsense though, it's obviously men who are oppressed and do all the actual work in society while women manipulate them with their vaginas.
>>43939065sure pal
>>43939079well, tell me when you see any women building roads, maintaining infrastructure, running manufacturing and recycling, electricity, sewage, electrics, logistics, transporthow many of the objects around you were made by a woman? i'd bet the answer is around zeroit's very simple: women are biological masters and men are biological slaves.
>>43939048>ftm repressorsad>>43939079>i look like this
>>43939048>afabs are inherently oppressedthis is a lie. it would be great if it were true, but it isn't.>>43939065>>43939104trvkes
>>43939048close enough. welcome back silvia federici whats that? she's still alive? damn
>>43939104me, i work in a machine shop but im actually just agp :(
>>43939065Whether you're a troll or sincere you're completely wrong
>>43939104can’t tell if this is a fetish or if you’re just genuinely retarded.hey bud, if men are so oppressed why is it them who are committing 90% of violent crime, 98% of sex crimes, 99% of rape, etc. a woman could easily kill a man with a gun but husbands kill their wives at over 5x the rates that wives kill their husbands, why is this, smart one?
>>43939182I am a tranny but yeah there are things about being a man i think are unfortunate in todays age. I think a lot of masculine occupations have been undervalued since cheaper countries took over a lot of the industry, and forcing men into customer service and other office roles isn't a satisfying route to success for many of them.
>>43939201this didn’t answer even a single thing that i just said lmao
>>43939201You can hit me with the "manufacturing is still growing SEE?" graph, but what happened is even as the economy was growing and productivity was rising so people bought more shit, that shit was made overseas so the level of industrialization in the west today does not reflect how much the average westoids productivity or purchasing power.
>>43939048common case of terfs stating an obvious fact and then throwing in anti tranny undertones paired with trannies being to autistic to think about optics or what argument would best fit the rhetorical situation.
>>43939219Yeah testosterone makes you dumb, but its worse now because the things it makes you good at are not in demand anymore. When all these dumbasses larp as farmers and want to bring back muh coal mining it comes from a true place, no little boy grows up wanting to be a sales manager.
>>43939182>hey bud, if men are so oppressed why is it them who are committing 90% of violent crime, 98% of sex crimes, 99% of rape, etc. a woman could easily kill a man with a gun but husbands kill their wives at over 5x the rates that wives kill their husbands, why is this, smart one?it doesn't follow that men being oppressed by women means they can't be capable of violence themselves. society is still set up so that men do the work and women spend the money. 99% of men are not violent, so focusing on a violent 1% is not a good picture of the whole.that said most domestic violence by women goes unreported. if we policed women as hard as we policed men we might find something different.and when you define sex crimes and rape as things done by men it's quite easy to find that most sex crimes are committed by men.for example, we police the fuck out of illegal images, because men are visual, but we could choose to police the fuck out of underage harry potter fan fiction, which would put millions of women in jail if we held women to the same standard of thought crime as we do men. that's a choice we make because we assume men are predators to begin with.personally i've been raped by men, assaulted by women and also sexually assaulted by women. i don't think either sex is the good sex, but men are still subordinated to vagina.
>>43939048basically all the shit they do to cisfems they do to transfems at higher rates so idk maybe youre just retarded
>>43939065truthnuke. men get hit by homophobia a hundred times worse than women. thats also why mtf are hit by transphobia a million times worse than ftm. boys get sent to war to be murdered while girls get to leave the country. men literally arent even allowed to have feelings. transmaxxing exists because the one thing incels are right about is that women get treated a lot better than men.
>>43939264literally all of this (which isn’t even fully true) can be chalked up to a shit ton of mtfs being prostitutes. prostitutes of all types go through these things at a very high rate so as a small community with a large amount of them it makes sense it would skew the statistics.
>>43939171well, i'm convinced!
>>43939048false>>43939065false>>43939104false>>43939164shut up>>43939239all of you shut up>>43939253funny, and good points, but im still going to tell you to shut up anywaygendered oppression is based on economic conditions and gender corrective violence. men and cis people make more money, are de facto permitted in more fields, and hold more stable jobs, as a result of misogyny. the misogynized (everybody except cis men) thus are typically pressured into particular social roles in order to attain stability. and as well, corrective violence directly punishes gender non conformity. fucking metaphysical idealists with their magical thinking
>>43939182This is blatantly false. The only reason men commit "99% (much less than that actually)" is because feminists defined rape as a man penetrating a women. The only time a man can get "raped" by a women legally is if he is raped by a woman and a man (much rather than single perpetrator). Women are basically one to one rapists with men (note the "made to penetrate" has a near identical definition to "rape"), and the only reason lifetime rates are lower is because older men are much less likely to report rape. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4062022/
>>43939335>men and cis people make more money, are de facto permitted in more fields,young women out earn young men, and have outperformed them in educational attainment for decades. everything else applies more to men than women, e.g. corrective violence.
>>43939316>umm they just get that violence because they have so many prostituteswhich is obviously neutral and they just choose to be that way of their own accordt. i fucking love tranny prostitutes
>>43939372yes, this is because office work is overrepresented in the west because industry was offloaded to cheaper countries. If a similar proportion of the shit you buy today were made by westerners as it was in 1970 our societal dynamics would favor males again.
>>43939380hey this isn’t to say that there’s no reason so many are prostitutes, only to say that the reason they have high rates of being victims to sex crimes (not as high as females btw) is because of that lifestyle, not because they’re trans.
>>43939369you genuinely have to be retarded to believe this
>>43939253mind bendingly stupid post beyond the first sentence.>society is still set up so that men do the work and women spend the money.you are a child.>99% of men are not violentyou are a child.>if we policed women as hard as we policed men we might find something different.pure speculation.>when you define sex crimes and rape as things done by mennot true in many/most places, men still top the charts by a landslide in those places.>we police the fuck out of illegal images...but we could choose to police the fuck out of underage harry potter fan fictionharry potter fanfiction isn't csam because no children were abused in its creation.>if we held women to the same standard of thought crimeit's not thoughtcrime, it's creating-demand-for-child-abuse-crime.
>>43939405And yes, men are the biologically aggressive ones, in humans and literally most other animals. Why is it any surprise that they are most of the criminals?You are all silly.
>>43939465>Sees verified statistics with source listed. "Hurr durr" you are a retard for believing what feminists themselves say all the time. I do however agree that men are more violent overall and cis men need to be forced on estrogen to be functional members of society. >t cis man on hrt
I know i keep spamming my economic pet theory, but consider how my chickens are kept.The hens are always useful, they produce eggs and they can be packed together all day long.Roosters are different, in nature they serve a purpous because they protect the flock and explore the jungle to spread their genetic material. These roles are unnecessary in agricultural chickens. We pick out the least aggressive most femboyish roosters to breed with the chickens and the rest are, well lets just say a byproduct.This reminds me of how all my jocko friends were cursed by being born into this world, and maybe I was too (though I'm a tranny idk how that works)
>>43939405Males, or at least the american ersatz type, just aren't really suited for the kind of diplomatic office politics and reputation management emphasized in those settings. There are a few limited areas like finance where they can act out their macho desires but that usually just takes the form of punching down on lower ranked males and hitting on female coworkers. Meanwhile women have been practicing "how do I get included in the social group?" and "how do I get this authority figure to like me?" since pre-school.
>>43939048I don't care terfs ruined my life, I hate you in a way you can never understand too.
>>43939587I am really wondering if I had trooned out if the world were different. I am still happy with this decision, if this is how the world needs to organize itself to continue on the march of progress to lift everyone out of poverty and enable material prosperity, so be it.
>>43939591terfs make up i’d say not even 1% of women. what are you so scared of?
>>43939683I was directly raised by a terf who denied me when tried to come out multiple times. I understand I don't have a great view of women but I can't see things any other way. Most posters are just gonna giga Stacey and call me an incel but I'm over it I don't care I hate most of you until proven otherwise. All women are terfs in the same way all men are incels; the only difference being that at least men have the capacity to get over it.
>>43939727i feel like when most of you say “terf” you actually just mean transphobe. the radical feminist part is crucial to being a terf. also if you hate women so bad why do you want to be one?
>>43939683Pretty much all women are TERFs at heart. I attended an entry level gender studies course (mandatory) university course recently for my Math degree and pretty much the entire class was women. The topic of transgender women came up and the majority of them wanted trans women to have fewer rights than cis women. Women are forced to act "progressive", but very few are. This was in a super woke state (California), so very representative of liberal women in general. This is why most movements like communist, social democratic, centrists and libertarian organizations are led by men, but fascist ones are led by women (Italy, France, U.K. and Bolivia).
>>43939752ya go ahead try to redefine oppression, that sure is the play book.There's a very good reason why most don't take feminism seriously anymore and this is part of it.
>>43939796what the fuck are you talking about? rephrase all of this if you want me to respond, you make no sense.
>>43939752If you hate men so bad why do you wanna be one?
>>43939904i don’t hate men per se, but that was good, i can’t lie. you win.
>>43939104>building roads, maintaining infrastructure, running manufacturing and recycling, electricity, sewage, electrics, logistics, transportLiteral pooner jobs. Every single one of them.
>>43939822lmao, truly we'll never understand each other, enjoy your meaningless life when you settle for chud.
>>43940000i like girls
>>43940017fair enough, chudette it is then.
>>43939484harry potter fanfic also creates demand for child abuse, certainly as much as lolicon does, which is illegal most placessee i can make unevidenced claims too
>>43939048no
>>43942257men live 4 years shorter than women.if it was the other way round it would be evidence of how oppressed women are
>>43939222i got trips and didn't even notice lol
>>43939065Op btfo
>>43939752>radical feminist part is crucialIt's not, it starts and ends with exclusionary, they love pretending that they're not going to get lynched for being vile filthy uggos once they set the standard for trans people to meet, but every single time they get what they want guess what starts happening more and more often? Women policing other women for looking too male, since you're clearly not perceptive enough to follow through.
>>43939048Good
>>43939065fippy bippy
>>43939182>hey bud, if niggers are so oppressed why is it them who are committing 90% of violent crime, 98% of sex crimes, 99% of rape, etc.
>>43943363niggers are violent primitive monkeys prone to intrinsic criminal behavior
>>43939448>not as high as females btwliterally higher. also>that lifestylewew...
>>43939380>i fucking love tranny prostitutesbased king>>43939683pooner doesnt get transmisogyny more at 11
>>43939484>harry potter fanfiction isn't csam because no children were abused in its creation.ur a lolicon defender? damn
Its better to be a poor woman than a poor man in the west due to more established social networks and support, and playing to race or biological sex oppression cards can mean a lot when it helps you get your first leg up in the world from 0, but its better to be a rich man than a rich woman in the west
>>43944072this, if you're top 0.01% the type who don't need to work for the rest of their life only then does it not suck to be a man
>>43939048moids playing the victim once again
