guys I think theyre talking about us
>>43944970No one on here uses TME/TMA aside from twitter tourists, they didn't even do the meme right
>>43944987wtf are those anyways?
>>43944970inb4 cis women start calling themselves ngmi hons
>>43945000Honlarperlarpers
>>43944970bro/broself
>>43944970why does this palce existing make twitter seethe so hard genuinelyi know seething is an overplayed chud meme making it meaningless but genuinely theyre so fucking mad abt this place and dont even ever come here
>>43944970Also would like to point out how even though the boymoder is meant to look passing the artist couldn't resist adding a comically large clown noseyes i know this is a cartoony artstyle its literally larger than the one on what i assume is the artists moid oc on the bottom
everytime a boymoder breathes, 1200 twitter spastics die of blood pressure
>>43944999transmisogyny affected (amab)transmisogyny exempt (afab)its a transfeminist/anti-ftm thing
>>43945059no its notshut the fuck up touristoid
>>43945059and then troons complain about being third gendered after creating a term about misogyny that doesnt apply to cis women, you can’t make this shit up
>>43945029smaller and more rounded than the girlmoder's nose tho. i gather the artists intentions was for those two to be comparable. but all this just feels like reading into things too much
>>43945014whatever makes you say that
>>43945073what exactly are you objecting to? the anti ftm thing? i didnt say they dont deserve it lol
/tttt/ trannies are the only trannies worth anything
>>43945104"kill troons" but woke ts pmo
>>43945078third gendering of trans women is literally one of the things the term is meant to describe. better to think of it on analogy with a term like misogynoir. white women don't experience misogynoir. still a form of misogyny. so the story goes anyway
>>43945013what the fuck is a dadophile
>>43945166idk personally I think drawing LESS attention to the fact that you’re not real wombyn and just calling it misogyny or sexism would do more good, but that might make the attention dry up and we wouldn’t want that
>>43945104fym supporting
>>43945208youre thinking in terms of optics whereas the people who coined and use this term unironically arent nearly that cynical. from eg Serano's perspective, misogyny against trans women undeniably works differently than misogyny against cis women. so she coined the term to describe a *subtype* of misogyny. of course all of this sounds like nonsense if you take for granted from the start that trans women are fake women. because thats just not the premise these people are starting with
>>43945013of course it's a xitter theyfab>>43945000>foids stealing valormust be a day ending in Y>>43944987yeah lol
>>43945267some cynicism might do them some good in todays climate
>>43945284probably, yeah
>>43944987its because they're a pooner on xitter and people call them tme there- as such they are framing tme as 4chan language to own the trannies
>>43945338nothing the pooner hates more than "check your privilege"... like holy water on a witch
>>43945154basically
>>43945351insert self admittedly somewhat in poor taste cdigoddess "they really are men" comic here
>>43945368god I hate that fucking cunt, stonetoss but for trannies
i do believe in the tme tma distinction but i just dont think it fits the tttt vibe you know
>>43945059>transmisogyny affected (trans woman)>transmisogyny exempt (cis man, cis woman, trans man)its transfeminist term to explain who goes through transmisogynystic violence/opression
>>43945384opinion on stupid twink comics
>>43944970this is mainstream trans subreddit type shit
>>43945429she sided with the blue girl during that whole pooner hate campaign so she’s a dumb bitch too, all highbie tranny accounts need to burn
>>43945384Whats wrong with her? aside from her weird penis thingI used to not like that comic where she shits on 4tran but honestly she's right there's a lot of chuds here
>>43945445she’s one of those “trans women are never ever ever wrong ever and if you think so you’re a transmisogynist bigot” people who are essentially walking optics nukes and turn people who are neutral on trannies into people who hate us because they can’t behave like decent human beings and need to go for the mean girl gimmick cuz it gives them gender euphoria to act like 16 year old valley girls
>>43945429I think stupidtwink is funny and nice. i like her
>>43944999>>43945420
maybe i should get into anime or something so i have interests
>>43945463no she fucking isnt what the fuckshes the most milquetoast safe woke version of being pro-mtfcissoids are so fucking oversensitive holy shit>>43945384stonetoss is just esoteric nonsense with no joke, all the comics are just gets at whoever hes imagining in his head that day. shit comparison>>43945386huh
>>43945420sure. fair enuff. in queer and womens spaces its effectively used as another proxy for birth sex, which is what my admittedly somewhat misleading characterization was getting at
>>43945463I mean her comics don't really come across as that to me like i just said she did shit on 4troons so there's thatI do agree that tweet is pretty cringe though
>>43945267how does misogyny even work according to feminism? what is the reason for transmisogyny according to serano? what about misogyny? how does that work?plz educate me, i dont want to read leftist retardation
>>43945548>in queer and womens spaces its effectively used as another proxy for birth sexi avoid twitter but ive never seen thismentioning baeddelism in any capacity is like uttering disastrous words of power near those groups>>43945577muh leftists stoopid lmao roflyou live in a glass chamber and have never had an unfiltered conversation with a legitimately left wing person in your entire life>>43945166>>43945208genuinely trying to engage with bait to form a debate out of it like a blind man walking through a minefield gotta love /lgbt/
>>43945550her comics are also pretty “trans women can do no wrong” idk where you’ve been. this was made when that blue girl was being a retard
>>43945548not it isn't, stop being retard.its poons and theyfabs that love to use agab terms. trannies make a term to say who are the primary targets of transmisogyny but retards think its another way to use agab terms.you people love to not take trans woman seriously and not even the things we talk abt.
>>43945612>you people love to not take trans women seriouslyyour collective buffoonery often makes it hard to
>>43945602>muh leftists stoopid lmao roflcmoooon its not that deep TwT. i just wanted you to explain how misogyny works to someone who is not in the know >you live in a glass chamber and have never had an unfiltered conversation with a legitimately left wing person in your entire lifeactually i did talk to anarchists, but they never read any theory even though they met up at their little leftist groups every week lole
>>43945612>transmisogynyopinion discarded
>>43945605also this one but I’m sure people here like this one for obvious reasons
>>43944970Mmm, that's good salt. Wish I had a Corona and lime to go with it. Thanks OP
>>43945577I'm being (deservedly) corrected by a lot of anons here for not speaking exactly. so I hope I can at least do it some justice from rote memory here.>what is the reason for transmisogyny according to serano? what about misogyny?An important part of Serano's account is that misogyny is a denigration not just of natal femaleness but (possibly more crucially) also of femininity/female identification. This is where a lot of readers (incl. feminists) will jump ship because 1. many will insist that misogyny is solely "sex-based" (I can pretty much guarantee you someone is going to reply to me to inform me that they in fact, do think that... plausible enough but not very original) 2. many readers, incl. feminists, probably do have a lot of contempt for femininity... whether fairly or unfairly. i think dworkin has a couple lines about how "femininity" is a euphemism for sexual servility or something... serano has a much more positive (or at least neutral) evaluation of femininity, that more reminiscent in some ways of certain difference feminists (not as sophisticated as an irigaray imo but it is what it is).This negative evaluation of femininity is part of what she calls "traditional sexism." "Oppositional sexism" being the idea that the two sexes are discrete oppositional categories. Transmisogyny is, on her account, a multiple marginalization at the intersection of oppositional and traditional sexism. This amplifies certain features already latent in traditional sexism; e.g. trans women are seen as especially artificial, shallow, pathetic compared to cis women. all this is explored in the context of media analyses of reality tv shows, movies, psychiatry (blanchard gets a chapter) etc. tldr i know sorry. Hope this helps some!
>>43945722B+, essay length is good but cite your sources using APA format as per the rubric next time
>>43945660as always, man not caring abt the woman of their community.why do i even bother.
>>43945736very good question, you should stop bothering
>>43945429makes good comics. beyond that I don't really care for her.
>>43945736It's just misogyny, you don't need to make the distinction. Isn't the whole point of being trans to pass as the gender you identify as, instead of becoming this different, similar but not quite thing?
>>43945722>also of femininity/female identificationthis is taken for granted, but why does this happen? what is the official explanation for it?
>>43945796see >>43945078, we’re going in circles at this point
>>43945612>you peoplegirl be serious. im literally a trans woman. im not anti transfeminist in the abstract either, but surely youve seen the way these online circles operate ... its not as cut and dry as that... ime at least >>43945735ty lol <3
>>43944970the trans discourse that makes me feel this way is not tttt boymoders brainworms not in the slightest
>>43945797desu im not sure i could give you a good account of why serano categorizes things like that. i do think to some extent it is an assumption of hers, which is borne out to some extent in the media analyses, but maybe one of the transfeminists in here can correct me. you or anyone interested could check out the work of some freudians on this. the freudian "repudiation of femininity" is a big source for this current of media analysis.
>>43945796its both.the same way a black woman uses misogynoir to also account for how racism affect their life.
>>43945892you don’t want a self proclaimed transfeminist to talk to you about anything ever, trust me
>>43944970I don't get ita bunch of silly jargon and then someone firing a minigun?did they trigger a guy from all the weird words they were using into getting hatecrime'd by him?
>>43946016ultimately i like transfeminists more than i like their enemies
>>43946061the wholesome tboy thought that wasnt very queer positive of you >:(
transfeminism the ideology is mostly correct, in so far as intersectionality as a concept (practice? theory? idk) is mostly correct. transfeminism the social groups are like a dozen bubbles of idealism all trying to indirectly kill each otherhence that one article about why puppygirls are evil leeches poisoning the truproletarian transbian movement - these are people operating mostly on social and mental inertia
>>43946164real
>>43946164i mean tbf we are also a bunch of losers on 4chan so i can't say i can't sympathize with operating on inertia that way
>>43946164>intersectionality as a concept (practice? theory? idk)iirc crenshaw explicitly intended for it to not to be a new fullblown theory in its own right but only a concept in her particular intervention into feminist/black civil rights politics. radlibs have frankensteined it into a mutant omni-theory despite that
>>43945722>>43945892Feminism tries so hard to not look at objective reality it's funny sometimes. Femininity has been associated with weakness, impotence and innocence for tens of thousands of years not because there has been some conspiracy to subjugate women using "religion" or whatever retarded reason you have (so you're saying all the races and cultures on this earth for some reason all started to create patriarchal societies independently because...?), but because patriarchal societies stem from innate biological differences between the sexes. In 99% of cases, women are from birth weaker than their male peers, allowing men (who are physically stronger) to easily force the average woman to do whatever that male wants. Femininity thus becomes intrinsically linked with meekness. But this brings up an important question, why are all women not slaves to men? since they could be easily overpowered even If the vast majority of them tried to revolt, the reason is... THE VAGINA. Not exactly the vagina, but rather the capability of reproduction. "But wait... couldn't a man just rape them?" Not exactly, I mean, yeah they could but It would not guarantee your offspring, since a woman could end the pregnancy by trying to commit an abortion or kill herself and take down your offspring. So what is the hypothetical male supposed to do in this case? He has to concede some of his privileges and give the woman SOME rights.
part 2."How is this related to transmisogyn-" Wait hear me out.I have one question. Why is homosexuality hated? "Christcuc-" but that does not explain why in ancient Greece bottoms were discriminated against and treated like women. Let me tell you why. It's because in the public conscious being gay is equivalent to being a weak little faggot with no actual power (which is true in most cases). Lets do a hypothetical, if all gays were biologically 50% stronger than straight men, would there be more or less homophobia? The answer is self evident, there would be less homophobia. Why? Because in that case, gays would have more bargaining power, that is backed by violence.So... back to transmisogyny>>43945797>this is taken for granted, but why does this happen? what is the official explanation for it?Now if we analyze transmisogyny using this lens, we can notice some things jumping out, like the TRANSITION in itself. Look like it or not, you're still a man, a man that according to everyone, gave away his masculinity his strength, his weapons that have been given to him since birth for basically no reason. Since now as a trans woman you can't give birth, can't reproduce in any way shape or form (assuming srs), and (most of the time) don't even provide extraordinary beauty, or something that could compensate your inherent maleness.Trans women will never be respected because they don't have wombs. This is the sad truth :(
trans people on twitter love to use /lgbt/ as a problematic wrongthink boogeyman as if they're not themselves posting on a website owned by a neo-nazi who operates an ai child porn generator
>>43946689yeah that seems about right
>>43945013It’s like you’re all a bunch of hilarious caricatures proving every stereotype to be true.
>>43946592>Lets do a hypothetical, if all gays were biologically 50% stronger than straight men, would there be more or less homophobia? The answer is self evident, there would be less homophobia. Why? Because in that case, gays would have more bargaining power, that is backed by violence.lets do a reality test: masc gays are notoriously prone to living in the gym and being roided. does society give them an appropriate level of respect rooted in their physicality? no, because they are still not considered contributors to what most people consider the most essential and human activity, reproduction, and crucially, they are outnumbered. so long as heterosexuals remain the majority gay men will always be considered surplus to the cause, and constantly subjected to resentment that amounts to some analog of "you dont work". bataille unironically has a better capacity to articulate the logic of homophobia than any mainstream feminist who roots homophobia in contempt for femininity.
