Okay so I'm not trans just an on-again-off-again AGP fetishist but for some reason images like this make me feel emotional and I really wish I were trans to justify transition. But then I remember that I'm not trans and I'm just being silly and trying to find ways to avoid being myself and living my life. Also the more I read the more I'm not convinced AGP is a real thing so I'm just a regular pervert fetishist I guess, idk.Anyone else feel this way?
you should take estrogebn as a fetish type thing
>>43947137But then after I'm not horny I'll feel like a disgusting gross fucking fatass loser ruining himself over a fetish
>>43947164>disgusting gross fucking fatass loser ruining himself over a fetishisnt that the whole point
>>43947094I wish i was the target audience for pics like this but alas im cis male, old, not easily manipulated, jaded, and extremely depressed.as for you OP idk sounds like you need therapyAgp isnt real and maybe you conflate your fetish with the underlying dysphpria you might feel but also you may just be a porn addicted loser who went down the wrong rabbithole. Its 50/50 really. No way to know
i never watched feminization porn or roleplayed it or anything like that but im still transitioning and still tell myself its some kind of sick joke
>>43947094No. I've been Agp since long before I heard the term or knew what it was. but I have also known that Its just a fetish and Im just a horny little fuck with a pervy fetish.
>>43947180No, it's supposed to be this wholesome heckin experience where you finally become a real person and are born again and everyone tells you you're pretty etc etc etc. >>43947191I am all of those things too. I'm probably just a porn addicted fucking faggot loser subhuman. The therapy didn't help me with this problem.
>>43947094>I wish I were trans so I could transitionthis was a meme when I came to tttt 8 years ago, and it still applies
>>43947269but it is true
>>43947232>No, it's supposed to be this wholesome heckin experience where you finally become a real person and are born again and everyone tells you you're pretty etc etc etc.well. its not like that, so take estrogen for the fetish and hide it from people in your real life, okay nona?
>>43947232>No, it's supposed to be this wholesome heckin experience where you finally become a real person and are born again and everyone tells you you're pretty etc etc etc.this only happened a few times in the whitest places known to man and nowhere else on earth
>>43947391>>43947421I know I have a bullshit mentality. It all has to be perfect. I'll never be pretty so it's not worth it anyway
>>43947469same time next week?
>>43947503Of course, I've been coming back on-again-off-again for almost a decade
Just troon out already, b4 ur 50+
>>4394752330+, 50+, what's the difference? I'm already old and unlovable anyway
>>43947094These images are a bit less persuasive to me because I can't help but read this as being tempted by a devil on your shoulder. Like there's a line between self-care and hedonism - I don't know where it is, but it has to exist somewhere.I find that "you are going to feel this gnawing emptiness for the rest of your life" works better, but then I remember that I'm going to be dead eventually anyway, so what does it matter? It can't last forever, because I won't last forever.
>>43947573Yeah it will only last as long as you doit will only be there until you arent
i wish shit like this existed when i was a kid
>>43947094im glad this existsbecause it trully does nothign to me and that means i am truly cis
>>43947572Thats why u troon out
>>43947670What's the point of trooning when you're already old and broken? You'll never be the cute porn star of your imagination?
>>43947094>Anyone else feel this way?yeah, but i'm very honest with myself that it is a fetish. but so what? life is too short anyway.so i do my shots and sometimes put on the skirt or dress (especially now in the summer) and continue to live. it helps that i still look kinda fem and i live with my bf so the "worst" thing that happens is that i'm called a faggot.well, yeah, i'm an estrogenized faggot. so what? normalfags will keep on seething while i get to enjoy what little cuteness i still have left. better to regret some silly pics or some argument than to get to 50 and regret not enjoying this, tbqh.
>>43947094take your HRT, retard
>>43947094This image is fake, all the trans people I know irl ghosted me and I haven't had any joy out of the experience after the first few months. I detrooned because at least I can jack off now.
>>43947683>What's the point of trooning when you're already old and broken?old is inevitable for everyone, but broken can still be fixed.i trooned at 32.>You'll never be the cute porn star of your imagination?sure. but neither will the vast majority of cis women either.i am however now the wife of a lovely man and life is simply better.
>>43947724I feel like I'm going to regret a lot more than some silly pics. I am throwing everything away for it (though I'm not sure what the everything even is). I'm committing to something I can't pull out of, that I'm not even sure I'll enjoy or can handle or want after more than a few jack off sessions.>>43947763But if I can't have that fetishistic fantasy, then I'm not sure I even want to bother. It just others me so much that I missed out on all that young faggotry
>>43947864You want old faggotry or no faggotry? (Im not the 30yo btw, she hijacked out convo)
>>43947952>she hijacked out convosorry for forgetting to add nta
>>43947952I'm honestly not sure. I honestly lean towards none but that's just perfectionism talking
most tranners are AGPbeing AGP != not having dysphoriaif you have dysphoria troon out, if you have dysphoria and don't troon out you will just kill yourself probably
>>43947094imagines like this make we wanna rope. fuck my stupid manmoder life man...
>>43948317How do you differentiate gender dysphoria from everything else dysphoria?
>>43948662Would u press a button that made u an average female? Yes = u have dysphoria
>>43949109stupid question bc transitioning doesn’t make you a normal female
>>43949109that is not dysphoria you retard. if you weren't suicidal before getting hrt then you don't have dysphoria, it's that simple
>>43949143I dont think it needs to be that bad even tho it was my case>>43949128Its not stupid because it awnsers whether u think u would be happier as a female, and transitioning will get u closer or even succeed at that
>/mdg/ - Mild Dysphoria general Sometimes I feel like it would be better if I COULDNT cope
>>43949169every man on earth would press the button, that question is completely useless. if you don't have significant distress with your sex characteristics then you don't have dysphoria and shouldn't transition.
>>43949287Every man? That is extreme cope lol
>>43949109Nta i hate thst fucking question I hate myself for even thinking about itBecayse there are times I say no abd thst means Im fake and I hate myself for that. God Im so over it
>>43949241real
>>43949287>every man on earth would press the buttonlol no.
>>43947216based
>>43948662if you would wish more to be ugly woman than a handsome guy, else that's just dysmoprhia
you if you keep waiting btw
>>43951320This is cringe compared to OP
>>43949241Same, if I wasn't able to cope I would have transitioned way earlier in life and would be motivated to actually put some work into it instead of just taking my shots once a week and completelh ignoring it otherwise
>>43949241this would be a great idea for a general too bad the jannies are trigger happy>>43951629pay some respect, this image has been cracking eggs since before you were a sperm. >>43947094I'm the same way. In fact I can almost time when my AGP is going to flare up again. It's really fucking confusing especially in an age of unprecedented psyops and spiritual warfare but you really have to ground yourself emotionally to the fact that it is a fetish and not your fault, otherwise you will go off the deep end.
It's possible you simply feel sympathy for trannies due to being someone who fetishizes the condition as autogynephilia. People think fetishes are purely sexual but the reality is often the case that people can be very emotionally impacted and moved, sometimes to tears, by their fetishes. Sometimes your fetishes can cause you to feel more than reality itself.
>>43951695This is a revelation to me.I fucked up but at least I know why. I transitioned for a fetish. God damn. Thank you
>>43951320This is why I killed her. No one to talk backNever was.
>>43947573yes, better to waste your entire life
what i've found is the idea of a full on transition is too daunting and very unrealistic in my situation anyway and leads to pitfalls like disappointment for not being exactly like a woman. Instead it's more about how do the small individual feminine things make you feel and the more you do them the more relaxed and yourself you feel in general. In fact agp stuff has become my go to grounding technique when i get half a panic or anxiety attack and renews my will to live even though years ago i went through shame guilt purge cycle.
>>43952892but why did you fetish for a transition...
>>43953264Wdym by that anonOr are you making a funny
>>43951680>otherwise you will go off the deep end.The deep end in this case being transition?
>>43947572I turned 30 last year and regret not trooning out when I was 18 and when I was 27. Now I’m balding (Norwood 4) and I’m too far gone. I don’t want to be a hon
>>43947094>ask any transwomenthe image is like 100% correct lmao>AGP fetishistnot real, or it just means you are trans, take your pick>AGP is a real thing so I'm just a regular pervert fetishistno, the pervert fetishism is how your brain expresses itself when you are repressing your deepest desires. it needs an outlet and thats the only time you stop bottling it up and let go>>43947164after you take e the horny will go away and the thoughts will stop. they only come back if you stop e lmao. its super fucked sorry and goodluck
>>43947391yeah just do this(diy) anyway until you get your shit together and get a therapist to save yourself from being testosterone poisoned. or you will regret
>>43957047>it needs an outlet and thats the only time you stop bottling it up and let goits just porn addiction though
>>43957677is it tho? what caused the "porn addiction"i dont know you and cant figure it out for you
>I post about this in 2020>0 replies>OP posts about it now>top thread
>>43957850it isim not a trans or femaleover
>>43957918copy thatok if you say so anonasee u tomorrowover
>>43957047I don't actually mind the horny, the horny is fun and I like fapping. It's the post-fap that feels like shit, and often I wish I could just get fucked. But the horny itself I actually look forward to, I don't want E to stop it.
>>43958036you are a sick fetishist agp feminization porn addict pinkpillerthats the only reaosn this board told me to transtionebcuase you are all sick
>>43956345that, or becoming a lobotomized sissy unc
>>43947572I'm 30+. I'm trooning out. My wife knows and supports me. We have a child together. Both marriage and child happened after I told her. I've spent 30+ years letting my fears of what others might think dictate who I am. I regret not transitioning earlier. I'll not add to the pile of regret by transitioning even later. I don't give a fuck if I'm going to be called a hon. I don't give a fuck if I'm clocky. I don't give a fuck if not passing makes people who see me seethe. Fuck them. Fuck every single one of them. The kind of people who put others down due to beauty standards, whether they're trans or cis, are below me in both virtue and dignity. Their opinions are irrelevant. I'm done hiding in the comfort of suffering the known. I'm going to seek the grin satisfaction of overcoming adversity to actualise myself, and those who don't like it can eat my ass and die mad.
>>43951320Always wanted to make a variant of this one, but sourcing stills from old VNs is a pain in the ass. I couldn't find one of the chair without Rino, so I had to make use a shitty AI editing tool to make this one.Maybe someone else could do better, but I like this concept.
>>43959276Happy for you but exactly do you get out of this? For me, the idea of transition would be purely to support my goon brained fetish fantasies. If you can't have those, what's the point?
>>43947094i think you need a trans girl friend to help you in your journey, nonny.....
>>43961551Well, I don't have friends so that's not happening any time soon.
>>43951680>pay some respect, this image has been cracking eggs since before you were a sperm.How? It's so lame
>>43961856You just had to be there, different time different culture. Nowadays everyone tells everyone to hop on HRT, back then trying to figure out if you should transition was a hero's journey so there was like a spiritual element to the whole thing.
>>43962213I supposed, it was wrong to insult it so much. Honestly it would be better for me if it were still that ways since I need a spiritual awakening or something to actually start living
>>43960288I get to be myself, nona. I get agency over my personhood. I get happiness. >For me, the idea of transition would be purely to support my goon brained fetish fantasiesI will not tell you what your reasons for wanting to transition are but from experience I encourage you to take a long, hard look at whether that isn't just a cope.
>>43960288>For me, the idea of transition would be purely to support my goon brained fetish fantasies.you can troon for the fetish, actually. i mean, i did. all the way to srs.the only real downside is at first (3-4 months) when your libido tanks. then it comes back with a vengeance, but different. in that time you need to learn to goon differently. after about a year you can choose to date men, see if you social transition works for you or not (or whether you want it). or you can go the hrt femboy/estrogenized faggot route which is cheaper and easier (wasn't fulfilling to me, but it may work for you).
>>43947094this is so retarded. you should take E if you like the effects of it and want them. it's going to make you cute or make you anything its just gonna put estrogen in your fucking endocrine system
>>43962667*not going to fuck
>>43962476I am pretty sure it's not cope but I've also been stuck on this for years, I've had "episodes" before which help support it being cope but I also am pretty sure I'm just a mad lonely insane coom brained moron who's never known what he wants in life ever and who AvPD's their way into doing nothing forever. I don't even understand what people say when they say things like "to be myself", it doesn't make sense to me.>>43962567I don't desire social transition at all I don't think so maybe the later would be better, especially given my decrepit age.>>43962667But how do I know if I want it?
>>43962691>But how do I know if I want it?fucking look up what it does and how to get it? and decide? like you would any other medicine. anything except posting retarded pinkpilling fetish shit
>>43962706but the pinkpilling fetish shit is a big part of what I want it. but I am just being weird about it all, I admit. I'm sorry to act so indignant
>>43962691>But how do I know if I want it?nta but besides what >>43962706 said, you simply do trial and error. Try smaller doses (say 1/3 or half of the "standard" tranny dose), see if you like it. If there's no effect, increase the dose (while being mindful of the tables of dosages).It's not really a big deal if you don't want social transition. You can play around much more with it.>my decrepit agewhat does that even mean?i'm getting ready to be a post-op "femboy" at 30 lol.you can just do things, anon.
>>43962729You're right. I'm looking for excuses to not fix myself like I always do. I need to just do things and know that people are going to judge me for it but that's okay. No one needs to know even unless I want them to, I'm already a freak what's one more stupid bullshit thing.I'm older than you are, so it feels pretty decrepit. I should have kids and a mortgage by now
>>43962729>smaller doses memeTHERE IS NO LOW DOSE ESTROGEN. BUDDING IS IRREVERSIBLE. DO NOT TAKE ESTROGEN.
>>43962769>I should have kids and a mortgage by nowbut you don't and you won't. you can claim something you like for yourself or continue to wallow in misery.>>43962814smaller doses to see if you like it or works for you is in fact standard of care, anon.>BUDDING IS IRREVERSIBLEheh, not really.>DO NOT TAKE ESTROGENI do and will continue to do so. Estrogenization will continue until morale improves.
>>43962864>you can claim something you like for yourselfYou have no idea how hard that is to even know what I like. I'm so afraid to do that. I don't even know if I know what that is and if it's attainable.
>>43962691>be myselfyeah I never understood that either. everyone who claims to have a sense of self is bullshitting themselves I reckon
>>43963641no, anon. just because you are an empty shell that doesn't mean everyone else is lying and is hiding being just as dysfunctional as you are.
>>43963696nta, but I believe it's as impossible for you to relate what it's like to have no self, just as it's absolutely inconceivable for us what it's like to have one. I'm certain that knowing who you are and not being allowed to live as yourself must be torture, but having no self and always being a confused and empty observer is extremely isolating. For a long while you can still cope by telling yourself that you just haven't tried the right things yet, but when you've already done everything you can think of, and still have no clue who's staring back at you in the mirror, then it's really difficult to not just give up.
